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Old 05-01-2020, 05:15 PM   #601
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Well I'm seeing three areas of great suspicion that should be investigated:
1. timmae's last-minute tie making maneuvers last night
2. RendeR and his "gag order"
3. The remaining pool of "vanilla wolf" claimers, GoldenEagle and LoneStarGirl

We could also add you to group #3.
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Old 05-01-2020, 05:52 PM   #602
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We could also add you to group #3.

When did she claim vanilla wolf?
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Old 05-01-2020, 07:34 PM   #603
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When did she claim vanilla wolf?

That was Day 1. The point of the grouping I and others mentioned was that four people claimed it Day 2 and that seemed like too many.
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Old 05-01-2020, 07:36 PM   #604
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I could have sworn I voted for GoldenEagle a few hours ago. I remember because I heard a disgusted yell from the other room when he found out.

Yep, post #586
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Old 05-01-2020, 07:37 PM   #605
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As of post 605:

timmae 3 - britrock88 (580), RendeR (587), bhlloy (595)
GoldenEagle 2 - henry296 (582), LoneStarGirl (586)
RendeR 1 - timmae (561)

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Old 05-01-2020, 07:42 PM   #606
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I am going to be away for a bit; we're taping several episodes for the youtube channel tonight, it was a pre-planned and I just realized the conflict last night.
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Old 05-01-2020, 07:59 PM   #607
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Oddly quiet a little over an hour before deadline. Then again, maybe everyone's just getting their drink on

So at this point timmae seems the most nefarious out of those I'm the most suspicious about. And padding the number of votes against him verses the next highest helps prevent any more attempts he might make at tie making.

vote timmae
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Old 05-01-2020, 08:01 PM   #608
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As of post #607:

4 timmae - britrock88 (580), RendeR (587), bhlloy (595), Telle (607)
2 GoldenEagle - henry296 (582), LoneStarGirl (586)
1 RendeR - timmae (561)

No vote: GoldenEagle
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Old 05-01-2020, 08:10 PM   #609
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It is very much beer o'clock here after a long week, but also I don't really see my vote changing at this point anyway. I want to know what the hell he was trying to do last night.
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Old 05-01-2020, 08:18 PM   #610
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It is very much beer o'clock here after a long week, but also I don't really see my vote changing at this point anyway. I want to know what the hell he was trying to do last night.

Yeah I want to know too. I can't think of any reason that would be on the side of good that he'd try to create a tie. And his explanation that that's not what he was doing just reeks of bs.

I enjoyed some drink earlier during virtual happy hour, but sobered up during dinner. Might decide to imbibe again in a bit.
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Old 05-01-2020, 08:23 PM   #611
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That was Day 1. The point of the grouping I and others mentioned was that four people claimed it Day 2 and that seemed like too many.

Which I think we all know has nothing to do with your role today. I'm staying with GoldenEagle for now.
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Old 05-01-2020, 08:28 PM   #612
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I don't know if I am ok with voting timmae. He has said that he trusts me and while it may sound cliche, I do appreciate it. I am not trying to out anyone, but it would make sense that he scanned me. Again, I am not saying he is the seer but I can give him the benefit of the doubt for now. The vote change at the last minute was suspicious and I can acknowledge that.

I am going to vote Render because I would like to generate more interest on a second candidate that is not myself.

VOTE RENDER
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Old 05-01-2020, 08:38 PM   #613
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I don't know if I am ok with voting timmae. He has said that he trusts me and while it may sound cliche, I do appreciate it.

Really? When I saw this:

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Note, my two solids are no longer here but I have a small trust group in lsg, telle and ge right now.

my first reaction was to cringe. After his deadline shenanigans yesterday I'm pretty sure I don't want to be in any kind of group he has going.
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Old 05-01-2020, 08:42 PM   #614
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I don't know if I am ok with voting timmae. He has said that he trusts me and while it may sound cliche, I do appreciate it. I am not trying to out anyone, but it would make sense that he scanned me. Again, I am not saying he is the seer but I can give him the benefit of the doubt for now. The vote change at the last minute was suspicious and I can acknowledge that.

I am going to vote Render because I would like to generate more interest on a second candidate that is not myself.

VOTE RENDER

Please explain why?
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Old 05-01-2020, 08:43 PM   #615
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You have been wanting to vote Render off since this game begin. Here is your chance to take a significant step to doing it. I will find it interesting if you don’t.
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Old 05-01-2020, 08:44 PM   #616
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Please explain why?

I think I explained it. It’s easy to pile on timmae at this point. I would like a second candidate and the option is either you or me.
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Old 05-01-2020, 08:48 PM   #617
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I think I explained it. It’s easy to pile on timmae at this point. I would like a second candidate and the option is either you or me.

So with no other evidence to go on than a drive by voter, you think its better to vote for me than someone that has a bunch of very questionable choices posted?

Thats some seriously flimsy logic GE.

Telle was hounding me during the original day 1, roles have very obviously changed, baiting her into voting for me seems duplicitous at best.
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Old 05-01-2020, 08:50 PM   #618
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I wanted to vote RendeR off on Day 1. As I'm sure you're aware, many things changed after that. He's definitely on my list of suspicious people (that whole "gag order" thing), but at this point timmae feels not just suspicious but dangerous.
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Old 05-01-2020, 08:50 PM   #619
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Add to that that Timmae is still 2 votes ahead of you to begin with and I seriously question your motivations.

If it would NOT create a tie, I'd be switching to you right now. We'll deal with him tonight, and you tomorrow.
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Old 05-01-2020, 08:52 PM   #620
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UNVOTE timmae
VOTE GoldenEagle


I realize this creates a tie, but only a momentary one (I'll change back if no one else does). The fact that timmae and GE are aligning themselves is interesting... and I'm wondering what they might do in a 3-3-2 where their votes are on the 2. Will they opt for self-preservation? Are they really hoping for another tie? etc...
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Old 05-01-2020, 08:53 PM   #621
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UGH....bitrock Stop creating TIES.....
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Old 05-01-2020, 08:53 PM   #622
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[b]Unvote henry 296

Vote chief rum/B]

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UNVOTE LONE STAR GIRL

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Add to that that Timmae is still 2 votes ahead of you to begin with and I seriously question your motivations.

If it would NOT create a tie, I'd be switching to you right now. We'll deal with him tonight, and you tomorrow.

Okay. This changes my mind and I will explain after switching back.

UNVOTE GoldenEagle
VOTE timmae
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Old 05-01-2020, 08:55 PM   #623
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Oops. Those first two are multiquotes from who knows when.

RendeR, glad you chimed in. I agree that we don't want a tie.
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Old 05-01-2020, 08:55 PM   #624
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OK now I'm dizzy.....
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Old 05-01-2020, 08:55 PM   #625
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I’m not switching. Not dealing with Timmae for information purposes tonight is dumb.
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Old 05-01-2020, 08:56 PM   #626
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Add to that that Timmae is still 2 votes ahead of you to begin with and I seriously question your motivations.

If it would NOT create a tie, I'd be switching to you right now. We'll deal with him tonight, and you tomorrow.

At any rate, this reply to GE gives me a better gut feel for you than I've had to date. The marginal likelihood of getting information from timmae or GE probably isn't worth risking a tie after all if the group is moving toward lynching one today and giving the other a thorough examination tomorrow.
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Old 05-01-2020, 08:57 PM   #627
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OK now I'm dizzy.....

fair. But how should I have known that if I gave you a baseball bat, you would decide to put your head on it and spin?
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Old 05-01-2020, 08:59 PM   #628
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fair. But how should I have known that if I gave you a baseball bat, you would decide to put your head on it and spin?

How could you not?

But yeah, I'm waiting for my pulse to come back down after seeing you create that tie. I had one of those "What the hell is going on?!?" moments. Good to see the world isn't quite as chaotic as it felt for a moment.
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Old 05-01-2020, 09:00 PM   #629
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Yeah I want to know too. I can't think of any reason that would be on the side of good that he'd try to create a tie. And his explanation that that's not what he was doing just reeks of bs.

I enjoyed some drink earlier during virtual happy hour, but sobered up during dinner. Might decide to imbibe again in a bit.

Are you looking to pull any shenanigans like I just did? I think bhlloy is set per his statement earlier, and RendeR sure sounds set.
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Old 05-01-2020, 09:01 PM   #630
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Old 05-01-2020, 09:02 PM   #631
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Are you looking to pull any shenanigans like I just did? I think bhlloy is set per his statement earlier, and RendeR sure sounds set.

Hah. I created a tie on Day 1 not knowing how great the ramifications could be. Anyone since then has no excuse. And I am certainly not stupid enough to make that mistake twice!
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Old 05-01-2020, 09:04 PM   #632
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So this is what I have as the tally at deadline:

4 timmae - RendeR (587), bhlloy (595), Telle (607), britrock88 (622)
2 RendeR - timmae (561), GoldenEagle (612)
2 GoldenEagle - henry296 (582), LoneStarGirl (586)

From what EagleFan said it'll likely be a few hours before we have full results.
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Old 05-01-2020, 09:07 PM   #633
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Yup, I'll be back later.
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Old 05-01-2020, 11:11 PM   #635
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Final Totals:

timmae 4 - RendeR (587), bhlloy (595), Telle (607), britrock88 (622)
GoldenEagle 2 - henry296 (582), LoneStarGirl (586)
RendeR 2 - timmae (561), GoldenEagle (612)
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Old 05-01-2020, 11:15 PM   #636
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The gathering grows in the courtyard. A brief exchange is heard between britrock88 and RendeR with timmae and GoldenEagle in the mix. A tie is created, a laughter can be heard, but a late change to timmae seems to seal his fate.

"Stop!!!"

You pause.

"Step Away from timmae!!!"

You do.

The gates open, timmae is taken from the courtyard, You can hear the screaming from beyond the gates...
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Old 05-01-2020, 11:17 PM   #637
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An announcement is made. This will only be a minor failure. The person you know as timmae was only recently converted, he had no true side as his maker remains.
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Old 05-01-2020, 11:23 PM   #639
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Thats not failure in my book, thats one less possible villager(bad guy).

Its a baby step, but its definitely not a failure.
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Old 05-01-2020, 11:30 PM   #640
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The sun rises and you gather. You are two members short of expected.

bhlloy was killed last night. He was The Count.

britrock88 was killed last night. He was a Vanilla Villager.

"You have fared well!!!"
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Old 05-01-2020, 11:36 PM   #642
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SO we're down to 5, no more vampire, no more convert.


so based on first night knowledge there are still 2 villagers out there (badguys)

a Seer
A nights watch
A Doctor


IF in fact all those roles were in the game at all.


Very interesting.
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Old 05-01-2020, 11:39 PM   #643
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Holy shit! So the head vampire, a villager, and the neutral party are all gone? That is awesome!

So now we know for sure there's both vampires and villagers. One of each type of bad guy is gone. We were guessing before that if both types were in the game then likely 2 of each. So probably at most there's one of each left now, which is great odds for the good guys.
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Old 05-01-2020, 11:41 PM   #644
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So RendeR posted when I was typing..

So you had three villagers on Day 1? Ok, that throws off my math. Still, it looks like the vampire(s) and villagers went after each other last night, which is great for us.
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Old 05-01-2020, 11:43 PM   #645
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Day 1 we had 2 villagers and the possible convert. So I'm thinking there is only 1 left not 2. My error there.
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Old 05-01-2020, 11:44 PM   #646
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I also doubting there was more than 1 vampire at all. I think IMO, they're gone. Which should leave us 4-1 good guys(wolves)
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Old 05-02-2020, 04:24 AM   #647
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Old 05-02-2020, 07:25 AM   #648
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Good luck, village! (Wink)


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Old 05-02-2020, 07:30 AM   #649
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With only five left, I think I’m going to come right out I provide what I know. Telle visited bhlloy because I’m the town watch.

vote Telle
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Old 05-02-2020, 07:35 AM   #650
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With only five left, I think I’m going to come right out I provide what I know. Telle visited bhlloy because I’m the town watch.

vote Telle

Never mind. She may have been another good role. I’ll let her explain before I vote.
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