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Old 10-17-2023, 07:06 AM   #3301
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2-year-old accidentally shot by sibling in church parking lot

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The pastor said the weapon was in the back of his van, and one of his sons got a hold of it and accidentally shot his brother.

Church members said they’ve been praying constantly since the shooting.

Maybe they should have prayed for the pastor to not be a fucking moron.
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Old 10-17-2023, 07:17 AM   #3302
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Guns don't kill people. Two year olds do

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Old 10-17-2023, 07:19 AM   #3303
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I didn't even finish the article when I posted. I got nauseous when I read this closing line:

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I hope this pastor goes the jail for years.
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Old 10-17-2023, 08:15 AM   #3304
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Pretty sure God didn't make the 2yo shoot his brother or made the pastor leave it in the back of his truck either.
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Old 10-17-2023, 08:18 AM   #3305
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Old 10-17-2023, 08:32 AM   #3306
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Pretty sure God didn't make the 2yo shoot his brother or made the pastor leave it in the back of his truck either.

Was the shooter 2 yrs old? I didn't get that from the article.
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Old 10-17-2023, 08:33 AM   #3307
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So you're saying God thinks, "It's alright, it's alright, it's alllll right."
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Old 10-17-2023, 08:43 AM   #3308
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Was the shooter 2 yrs old? I didn't get that from the article.

Whoops. In my defense I had just started drinking my coffee.
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Old 10-20-2023, 08:25 PM   #3309
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Good news I guess but seems he can continue to cheat/appeal until he dies.

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A federal bankruptcy judge ruled Thursday that bankruptcy proceedings will not shield Infowars host Alex Jones from more than $1.1 billion in damages he owes the families of Sandy Hook shooting victims who won a civil defamation case against him in Connecticut last year.

The families filed a motion in May asking the court to force Jones to pay the trial damages and rule out the possibility of a forced settlement in Chapter 11 proceedings. If forced into a settlement through bankruptcy Jones could have liquidated his broadcast company and likely paid the families a substantially lower amount in damages while also clearing the way for him to start a new company free of claims.

Jones filed for personal bankruptcy last December after he was ordered to pay nearly $1.5 billion in the Connecticut case brought by the family members of eight shooting victims and a first responder.

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Old 10-25-2023, 08:48 PM   #3310
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Old 10-25-2023, 09:11 PM   #3311
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Just another Wednesday in the good ole US of A.
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Old 10-25-2023, 09:12 PM   #3312
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So disgusting that we allow this to happen over and over and over again
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Old 10-25-2023, 09:19 PM   #3313
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22 people now....try to keep up
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Old 10-25-2023, 09:20 PM   #3314
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22 dead. They do have an initial identification, but no location.

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Old 10-25-2023, 09:20 PM   #3315
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Old 10-25-2023, 09:20 PM   #3316
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I think that's more murders than Maine had all of last year.
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Old 10-25-2023, 09:20 PM   #3317
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i THOUGHT that location looked like a bowling alley....guess he missed the 7-10 split
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Old 10-25-2023, 09:21 PM   #3318
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I think that's more murders than Maine had all of last year.

almost...they had 29 but the night is still young
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Old 10-25-2023, 09:22 PM   #3319
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i THOUGHT that location looked like a bowling alley....guess he missed the 7-10 split

What the fuck is wrong with you?
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Old 10-25-2023, 09:23 PM   #3320
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They believe a children's bowling event was going on at the bowling alley that was one of the shooting sites. Ugh.

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Old 10-25-2023, 09:25 PM   #3321
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What the fuck is wrong with you?

the only way to deal with this shit is humor or I'll cry my eyes out
I'm like Hawkeye without the skill

if you like I can say "fuck all republicans" again

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Old 10-25-2023, 09:25 PM   #3322
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Talk about pictures being worth a thousand words not just about this incident but this whole phenomenon. Wow.

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Old 10-25-2023, 09:33 PM   #3323
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What the fuck is wrong with you?

Making jokes is about as effective as anything else we do about mass shootings.
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Old 10-25-2023, 09:40 PM   #3324
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Local news reported that his vehicle looked to be abandoned near a boat dock. Possibly he is currently on a boat. There are also reports of a possible second person involved in a black truck, but there are almost always false reports of a second person being involved and it seldom holds up.

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Old 10-25-2023, 10:34 PM   #3325
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Certified firearms instructor and member of the US Army Reserves.

Edit: Who was treated at a mental health facility. It's like he hit the full mass shooting bingo.
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Old 10-25-2023, 11:08 PM   #3326
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Certified firearms instructor and member of the US Army Reserves.

Edit: Who was treated at a mental health facility. It's like he hit the full mass shooting bingo.

Checking all the boxes.

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Old 10-26-2023, 10:08 AM   #3327
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Old 10-26-2023, 10:23 AM   #3328
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I realize this is a rhetorical question, but what is so hard about common sense solutions like?

1-Enforce all of the fucking gun laws on the books, universal background checks

2-A serious mental health DX excludes ANYBODY from ever owning a gun. That means you go and confiscate them and if a family member gives them another, they face the same charges if said lunatic executes a mass shooting.

3-To counter the "what about Chicago" crowd. If you are caught with an unregistered, stolen or otherwise illegal firearm you get a MANDATORY lengthy prison sentence, like 20 years minimum or more. Make possessing illegal firearms serious enough to discourage people from getting them. And add mandatory extensions to any sentence for a crime involving a gun, even just pointing it as someone in a robbery.

Instead, there will thoughts and prayers, some half assed rhetoric about doing something, the usual defense of the great second amendment and we go back to normal until the next one.

This country is seriously fucked and not even close to one I proudly served in the military for.
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Old 10-26-2023, 10:57 AM   #3329
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I like all 3. I'll also add ...

4. Mandatory waiting periods

5. Mandatory annual/bi-annual training including victim testimonies, pictures etc.

6. Mandatory gun safes/cabinets/locks

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Old 10-26-2023, 04:36 PM   #3330
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What so hard is "SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED" which 2nd Amendment gunlovers repeat like a magic spell that wards off people "tryin to take mah guns!". They ignore the well-regulated militia, because they want their prime pieces of bang bang to shoot at anyone they don't like when "the cities rise up"
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Old 10-26-2023, 05:41 PM   #3331
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I realize this is a rhetorical question, but what is so hard about common sense solutions like?

1-Enforce all of the fucking gun laws on the books, universal background checks

2-A serious mental health DX excludes ANYBODY from ever owning a gun. That means you go and confiscate them and if a family member gives them another, they face the same charges if said lunatic executes a mass shooting.

3-To counter the "what about Chicago" crowd. If you are caught with an unregistered, stolen or otherwise illegal firearm you get a MANDATORY lengthy prison sentence, like 20 years minimum or more. Make possessing illegal firearms serious enough to discourage people from getting them. And add mandatory extensions to any sentence for a crime involving a gun, even just pointing it as someone in a robbery.

Instead, there will thoughts and prayers, some half assed rhetoric about doing something, the usual defense of the great second amendment and we go back to normal until the next one.

This country is seriously fucked and not even close to one I proudly served in the military for.

Domestic violence needs to be taken more seriously in regards to gun ownership. So many of these shooters have histories of abusing women. One of the early theories on this one was that he was trying to kill his ex-girlfriend in the bowling alley.
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Old 10-26-2023, 05:44 PM   #3332
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What so hard is "SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED" which 2nd Amendment gunlovers repeat like a magic spell that wards off people "tryin to take mah guns!". They ignore the well-regulated militia, because they want their prime pieces of bang bang to shoot at anyone they don't like when "the cities rise up"

The Heller decision is so hilarious in retrospect. All the "constitutional conservatives" on the court making a new right out of thin air and all the mental gymnastics it took to shoehorn it into 2A.
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Old 10-26-2023, 08:38 PM   #3333
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Many in the GOP won't allow any restrictions on guns because one day they may want to overthrow the government. They're very open about this.
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Old 10-26-2023, 09:02 PM   #3334
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Domestic violence needs to be taken more seriously in regards to gun ownership. So many of these shooters have histories of abusing women. One of the early theories on this one was that he was trying to kill his ex-girlfriend in the bowling alley.

Great point and agree 100%, make that bullet point 4 for me!
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Old 10-26-2023, 09:23 PM   #3335
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Great point and agree 100%, make that bullet point 4 for me!

can you refer to it in a way OTHER than saying "bullet point"?
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Old 10-26-2023, 09:30 PM   #3336
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Old 10-26-2023, 09:31 PM   #3337
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Old 10-26-2023, 09:40 PM   #3339
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i bet the guy's in canada by now.

or maybe just walked into the ocean
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Old 10-27-2023, 08:36 AM   #3340
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Maine, which is my home state, is a big state, geographically, despite impressions one might get from its small population. He has plenty of places to hide, and if he's used water to cover his movements, it'll take dogs longer to get a scent. I'm sure they'll eventually find him, but it'll take a while.

I would be surprised if he crosses the border successfully, though. For one, it's a pretty long way away from Lewiston, and for two there are listening devices all along the border (for smuggling interdiction), not just presences at road border crossings.
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Old 10-27-2023, 01:06 PM   #3341
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Have they come up with a hypothetical motive other than he wanted to kill a bunch of people? I feel like unless he was motivated by a political agenda, a hatred for a group of people, an perceived injustice by a government office or a business etc., he probably is already dead or will be by the time the police are within handcuffing range.
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Old 10-27-2023, 01:08 PM   #3342
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This is the price we pay to allow gun fetishists to do whatever they want:

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Old 10-27-2023, 01:10 PM   #3344
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Have they come up with a hypothetical motive other than he wanted to kill a bunch of people? I feel like unless he was motivated by a political agenda, a hatred for a group of people, an perceived injustice by a government office or a business etc., he probably is already dead or will be by the time the police are within handcuffing range.

The usual: radicalization by right-wing voices on twitter and in the media, plus a touch of mental health issues, plus access to weapons, equals a desire to lash out.
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Old 10-27-2023, 01:20 PM   #3345
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Maine, which is my home state, is a big state, geographically, despite impressions one might get from its small population. He has plenty of places to hide, and if he's used water to cover his movements, it'll take dogs longer to get a scent. I'm sure they'll eventually find him, but it'll take a while.

I would be surprised if he crosses the border successfully, though. For one, it's a pretty long way away from Lewiston, and for two there are listening devices all along the border (for smuggling interdiction), not just presences at road border crossings.
It sounds like he might have just entered the water and unalived himself as well.
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Old 10-27-2023, 01:22 PM   #3346
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Have they come up with a hypothetical motive other than he wanted to kill a bunch of people? I feel like unless he was motivated by a political agenda, a hatred for a group of people, an perceived injustice by a government office or a business etc., he probably is already dead or will be by the time the police are within handcuffing range.
There was a rumor he had an Ex at the bowling alley. It is going to be awhile before we know fact and fiction in all of this, if ever.
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Old 10-27-2023, 02:42 PM   #3347
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Thanks. I know we may never know. Just trying to make sense out of nonsense I guess.
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Old 10-27-2023, 02:46 PM   #3348
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He left a suicide note for his son. Read somewhere it had rantings. So hopefully it provides some insight on his motivations.

Feel sorry for the son. What a legacy to inherit. Pretty sure I’d change my name.
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Old 10-27-2023, 03:10 PM   #3349
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He left a suicide note for his son. Read somewhere it had rantings. So hopefully it provides some insight on his motivations.

Feel sorry for the son. What a legacy to inherit. Pretty sure I’d change my name.

I hope his rantings just get burned without and single person reading it.
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Old 10-27-2023, 03:29 PM   #3350
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I hope his rantings just get burned without and single person reading it.
I agree, but then that just breeds conspiracy theories. "What are they trying to hide from us?" "He knew the truth about the Biden crime family, and the attack was trying to warn us..." kind of B.S.
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