An Irish EU3 Dynasty - Complete!!!

[Abe Sargent]

Originally Posted by Cap Ologist

Ok, reading this has given me the urge to play. What version of EU3 are you playing/recommend?

I have all three expansions and they add a lot, like magistrates, decisions, national focus, missions, cultural tradition, and such. If you have never played an EU game before, it's a real time game that feels turn based. It is very rich, deep, has a steep learning curve, and allows you to do lots of different things. There are some fans on the board of traditional PC strategy games who do not like it or Crusader Kings, but for my money, its the best historical strategy gaming experience I've ever had, better than Civ (barely). Many others love them too, but if you want a different viewpoint, you can head to the main thread and serach for Eu3 threads.

[Abe Sargent]

The Irish Colonial Age: The Year of Great Change, 1545-46 - Vol. 2 - Eyes Toward The Continent



I still only have a 3.5 badboy.

I fabricate claims against Hesse


I DOW Hesse

Brabant is Hesse’s ally and they are joining her. Excellent. Two birds, one stone

July 8 - Rebels in Ottawa

July 14 - Breda fell

I annex Brabant which gives us a ton of badboy

Aug 14 - Gelre converts

Aug 17 - Grain in Allegheny

Sept 1 - Nassau falls

Sept 9 - Revolt in Oxfordshire

Sept 18 - Koln falls

Sept 20 - We get Hesse to release Mainz as a free state (which we enter into a RM with), give us Koln, revoke their core on Berg, and give us a little cash



Breda - 49267 Dutch Reform, cloth makers, 24.50 ducats, workshop, temple, completely surrounded by my provinces.


Koln - 105485, Protestant Hessian, workshop, customs house, marketplace, temple - grain, 16.73 ducats. Between Limburg and Berg, and above Liege, Luxembourg, Trier and Koblenz, and west of Nassau


I now have 100 prestige, 15.2 badboy, and a need to really spend some time and just clean up. A lot of missionaries and infrastructure is needed here and abroad.

Provinces with revolt risk above 1%:

Ontario
Ottawa
Seneca
Oneida
Mohawk
Cayuga
Onondaga
Niagara
Huron
Breda
Koln
Utrecht
Gelre
Fife
Calais
Kent
Lothian
Aberdeen
London
Oxfordshire
Hainaut

All of those actually have 3% or higher

[sabotai]

Like Abe, I really like the EU games and they are my favorite historical games. EU3 especially. HTTT really changes a lot about how the game is played. I played through a few games with it, and am waiting for the MMP mod to come out for HTTT to see how that changes things as well. As great as EU3 is, I think a few things about it are too easy, like colonization.

[Abe Sargent]

The Irish Colonial Age: Post-War Expansion



Oct 1 - We win in Oxfordshire

We discover Potawatomni and Lake Ontario.

I order a fort in Ottawa

Nov 9 - Mobile now a full colony


Mobile - 2096 Irish Catholic cotton growers, 5.13 ducats, I order fort here, next to Cherokee in Tuskegee, Alabama and Pensacola. Next to us In Bayougoula. South of unknown province.

Dec 6 - Fife converts

Dec 12 - Generals Concerned by Unmanly Tactics and I lose 10 prestige rather than move us defensive

Dec 14 - White peace with Bohemia


Within the span of one year, I have won war against three nations, and annexed two of them, and added 11 provinces to our might

Post Office in Connecticut and Narraganset

Jan 2, 1547 - I send colonists to Potawatomi

Feb 9 - Post Office in Pocumtuk

Feb 22 - Slave Uprising in Cameroon. We stopped it but it gets +1 revolt risk

Mar 15 - Coffee in Guadeloupe

Apr 1 - NLD Algonquin, inland of Hochelega and east of Ottawa

Apr 16 - Slider time

I move us closer to Naval and lose some more army investment

This gives me cheaper colonist costs, more tarriff money from the colonies, cheaper ships, etc

June 9 - Rebels in Cayuga and luckily I was moving through there

What I have to do with the natives is build forts first, and then send Missionaries. Right now, any rebels can capture the province, and that stops the missionary and I have to pay to send another. The same is true of building something, so I have to keep an army in a space where a fort is being built for a year, so I can’t just build a bunch of forts all at once, but slowly. This will take a while.

I send Missionary to Koln

July 19 - Colony established in Potawatomi

Sept 1 - NLD Caddo, Inland of Bayougoula

Oct 1 - Naval Tech Increase

Oct 10 - I order a fort in Seneca

Oct 23 - Land Reform in Pocumtuk

Feb 4, 1548 - Allegheny Expands

Apr 12 - Rebels in Onandaga

June 12 - Rebels in Hainaut

July 27 - We win in Hainaut

Sept 1 - Native Attack in Narraganset

Pocumtuk is now self sustaining


Pocumtuk - I order a fort here. 1500 Irish fur trading Catholics make us 6.58 ducats. Adjacent to Mohawk, Massachusetts, Pennacook, Mahican and Kwedech


Sept 16 - Land Reform in Mahican and Narranganset

Sept 29 - Huron rebels killed

Oct 1 - Mahican is now self sustaining too


Mahican - Fort built. 1504 Irish farmers. Catholics. 5.47 ducats. Next to Massachusetts, Mohawk, Oneida, Pocumtuk, Connecticut, Manhattan, Unami, and Lenape


I order a level 1 fort in Cayuga

[Abe Sargent]

A Short Interlude




Nov 1 - Missionary sent to Breda

Dec 1 - Road Network in Mahican

Dec 16 - Rebels in Hainaut

Jan 9, 1549 -Rebels gone

Jan 22 - Allegheny expands

Apr 1 - NLD Choctaw, north of Mobile and Bayougoula

May 1 - NLD Erie

May 22 - Breda converts

June 1: NSD Lake huron

June 10 rebels in Mohawk

June 24 - Rebels in Hainaut

June30 - Rebs in Mohawk killed

July 1 - Abnaki now a core + Connecticut now city



Connecticut - Fort. 3507, Irish catholic, cotton, 5.93 ducats


July 17 - Allegheny expandheny

Aug 7 - Victoire in Hainaut

Road Network in Pocumtuk, Breda

Sept 18 - Fort ordered in Ontario

[Abe Sargent]

150 Year Review


Oct 14, 1549


Prestige - 78
Badboy - 11.8
Ducats - 283
Stability - 3


Vassals - Scotland, Auvergne, Holland, Oldenburg

Lead Personal Union with “Norway,” which is just the Orkneys.

Allies - Norway, Scotland, Auvergne, Holland, Oldenburg, Mainz


Ideas:

Military Drill
Quest for the New World
Colonial Ventures
Land of Opportunity


Feudal Monarchy


We have the most prestige
4th worst inflation at 19%
2nd highest income behind Austria by 3 ducats

I am behind the leaders in everything but government, tech wise

6th biggest army. I have around 65k, Austria has almost 200k
4th largest navy, we have 53 ships. Ming has 70, Scandinavia 59 and Japan 58

My current ruler, Muchadh, has been ruling for 31 years.

We have just five current colonies - Guadeloupe, Allegheny, Narraganset, Nunavik and Potawatomi. I need to focus on other things for a few years, so expect this number may lower

Antwerp is the second most valuable COT in the world behind Lubeck. Massachusetts is 6th behind Andalucia, Alexandra and Gorz.



Currently, the most valuable trade good is salt.


Salt
Fur
Wine
Slaves
Iron
Cloth
Fish
Grain
Wool
Coffee
Chinaware
Tobacco
Naval Supplies
Spices
Sugar
Ivory
Tea
Cotton




Provinces:

The most tax - Antwerp - 31.2. L

Antwerp
London
East Anglia
Gloucestershire
Yorkshire
Ulster
Wessex
Lancashire
Brabant
Cornwall


The most production -

Vlaanderen *
Antwerpen *
Brabant *
Zeeland
East Anglia *
Hainaut
Limburg
Yorkshire
Utrecht
Northumberland


Countries with a * have a manufactory or university



The most tariffs:

Massachusetts
Onondaga
Stadacona
Huron
Pocumtuk
Niagara
Kwedech
Unami
Abnaki
Micmac



How Many do we Have?


Fur: 20
Grain: 13
Iron: 5
Naval supplies: 7
Salt: 1
Slaves: 1
Sugar: 3
Tobacco: 9
Cloth: 10
Coffee: 2
Copper: 1
Cotton: 6
Fish: 18


It’s nice that I have a money product like fur to really corner the market in.

I don’t have any tea, spices, ivory, chinaware, wine, wool or gold. I can’t believe I don’t have any wool provinces. I usually can’t get rid of the nasty things.

I think there is way much tobacco and cotton on the map this time, and the prices for it are lowered. Plus, you need more slave provinces to really help their value. I’m not sure how many slaves are out there.



Castille is at war with two Indian nations, so again, they must be really far out there.

The new world is really just a three man race between Castille, Portugal and me. England is gone. The Netherlands probably will never form and Holland is my vassal while I own the other land. France is going through major issues for decades. Aragon colonized Cape Verde and I hope it is the beginning.

There are still a few new world provinces left in prime places, but not too many. Curacao, Jamaica, a bunch of South American coastals with low tax value.

We each have three of the islands in the Antilles. Castile has St Kitts, Martin and Antigua. Portgual has St Thomas, Lucia and Barbados. I have the other three. Castille has Trinidad and Puerto Rico. I have Cuba. Portugal has Hispaniola. I have some nearby island groups like Turks and Bahamas. Portugal has Azores, and Madeira. I have North America, they have provinces in Brazil and south, plus some more north.

Portugal has taken over almost all of Aztec. Castille has annexed African nations like Kongo, Portugal annexed Zimbabwe.

Castille has North Africa locked.

Landwise - I do not know who is ahead and who is behind. We are all doing very well.

My guess is Castille, but I took a major chunk out of that I suspect in the last few years with Huron and continental provinces

[Abe Sargent]

The Irish Colonial Age: Four More



Nov 1 - Micmac is now a core

Dec 24 - We defeat rebels in Hainaut

Jan 6, 1550 - Rebels in Onondaga

Jan 9 - Allegheny expands


Allegheny - 1587 Irish Catholic farmers, 3.18 ducats, wall building built, next to Seneca, Cayuga, Susquehanna, Kanawha and unsettled Erie

Jan 31 Rebellion ended

Mar 1 - Land Enclosures in Koln

Apr 3 - I order a fort in Onondaga

May 1 - Massachusetts is now a core

June 5 - Fur in Potawatomi

July 22 - Minorities flock to Guadeloupe


Guadeloupe - I order a fort here. 3046 Reform Irish Coffee growers, 5.27 ducats, Religious Migration.


Aug 1 - Prod Tech increase

Aug 9 - Rebels in Ottawa

Aug 12 - Narraganset expands


Narraganset - Adjacent to Connecticut and Massachusetts, 2611Irish Catholic fishers, make us 6.71 ducats. They get a fort too


Sept 9 - Rebels killed

Sept 21 - I order a fort in Huron


Sept 27 - Rebellion in Berg, came from over the border and leaked in.

Oct 5 - Quashed

Oct 19 - Rebellion in Oneida

Nov 12 - Killed

Nov 25 - Nunavik expands


Nunavik - 1606, Irish Catholics, Naval Supplies, 1.78 duats, no fort built, next to Ungava

[Abe Sargent]

The Irish Colonial Age: Nearing the End - Pacifying Natives



Jan 1, 1551 - Since I have just one colony right now I send colonists to Erie and Chitimacha (in Louisiana/Texas area)

Jan 8, Roads in Unami and Manhattan and Delaware

Mar 14 - Burgundy lost two provinces to Austria, increasing their blobbiness

Mar 22 - We defeat some rebels that bled over into Hainaut

Apr 5 - I order a fort in Oneida

I order a Missionary to Martinique

June 16 - Castille annexes Hungary

July 7 - Colony established in Erie and I send in more

Aug 16 - Chitimacha is founded and I also send more colonists to it

Sept 1 - Roads in Abnaki and Micmac

Sept 22 - I order a fort in Niagara

Nov 10 - Rebellion in Mohawk, and the natives are marching towards Oneida, where I have a garrison protecting the construction of a fort.

Nov 29 - Natives destroy. I dispatch our cavalry to grab Mohawk back and rejoin us

Dec 29 - Erie expands

Jan 1, 1552 - Missionary to Huron

Jan 9 - Revolt in Oneida

Jen 14 - Quelled

Jan 30 - Koln converts back to Catholicism!

Mar 1 - A level 5 Privateer arrives in Zeeland, but I do not hire him.

Mar 31 - Chitimacha expands

Apr 6 - I order a fort in Mohawk, the last of the Huron provinces that needs one

June 8 - Roads in Conoy, Pamlico and Powhatan

July 10 - Rebellion in Onondaga

Aug 10 - I lose 25 ducats when local natives fail to assist my fur trappers (an event)

Aug 21 - We destroy the rebels

Nov 7 - Missionary to Niagara

Nov 24 - I send colonist to Choctaw

Jan 18, 1553 - Grain in Erie

Feb 4 - Grain in Chitimacha

Feb 26 - I again Excommunicate Portugal

Feb 28 - Niagara converts, and they become Irish too.

I send a Missionary to Ontario.

Apr 6 - Missionary to Mohawk

July 9 - Colony set up in Choctaw and I send in more colonists

Aug 2 - Roads in Santee, Tuscarora, Monacan and Manahoac

Aug 9 - I send colonists to Algonquin

Missionary to Oneida

Aug 30 Oneida converts that quickly. Wow.

Oct 1 - Trade tech increases. Cores now in Unami and Bermuda

Dec 8 - Revolt in Huron

Dec 19 - Crushed

Jan 1, 1554 - NLD Sault, NSD - Lake Erie

Feb 19 - Choctaw expands

Feb 27 - Algonquin is our newest colony, and I send in morie pioneers, ready to explore her.

Apr 1 - Northumberland now a core

Apr 10 - The new Pope, Prussia, revokes the Excommunication of Portugal. We have two rebellions in Cayuga and Seneca

May 6 - Rebels defeated in Seneca

May 27 - And Cayuga too

[Abe Sargent]

The Irish Colonial Age: Nearing the End - Pacifying Natives Take Two




June 17 - Roads in Kanawha, Allegheny, Susquehanna

I order colonists to Chitimacha

Actually, from here on out, I am not going to tell you when I expand road networks, and just assaume I am

Aug 21 - Expansion of our Algonquin colony and more pioneers seeking a new life leave our ports

Oct 2 - Missionary to Seneca

Oct 14 - I gain 5 naval influence from Fleet is Pride of nation

Nov 7 - Castille is now Defender of the Faith.

Jan 1, 1555 - Kespek now a core

Jan 30 - Chitimacha expand and more settlers are dispatched

Feb 13 - Algonquin expands

Feb 18 - Tobacco in Choctaw

Mar 11 - I get an odd event. Our Mercantilist Policies Strengthen Trade - Luneberg and Riga each lose merchants in Antwerp. Never seen it before

May 23 - Fur in Algonquin

June 8 - I order a level 2 fort in Tuscarora just to complete the missiona nd get a new one

June 11 - Rebellion in Huron

July 6 - We win

July 20 - Once again we are the Papal Controller

Aug 1 - Manhattan now a core

Sept 14 - Chitimacha expands. I send colonist to Atakapa.

Oct 11 - Good Harvest from my Grain provines so I take 50 ducats

Apr 5 - Magdeburg declares independence from Hesse

Apr 29 - Conversion successful in Oxfordshire

May 1 - My Naval Reformer died. Antwerp, Vlaanderen and Zeeland are now cores


I create a level 5 statesman and hire him

Missionary sent to Cayuga

May 9 - Atakapa colonized and more are sent

June 9 - Mission complete. The next one? Build Weapons Manufactory in Yorkshire. I agree actually

Dec 1 - Armagnac declares independence from France

Dec 12 - Mohawk converts!

Feb 10, 1557 - I order a Weapons Manufactory in Yorkshire

Feb 27 - Austria grabbed Defender of the Faith from Castille

Mar 29 - Minorities flock to Erie

Erie: I order a fort here. 1542 Reform Irish farmers, Religious Migration, next to Allegheny, Kanawha, the Cherokee in Ohio, and unsettled Wyandot. (Western PA)



I order colonists to Wyandot (E. Ohio)

[Abe Sargent]

The Irish Colonial Age: Nearing the End - Under the Irish Flag



Apr 10 - Rebels on Oneida

May 2 - Creamed

July 20 Corsica took the Aragonese colony in Cape Verde

Aug 1 - I excommunicate the Riga Bishop.

Oct 8 - Colony established in Wyandot and I order in more colonists

Nov 1 - Land Tech Increases

Nov 25 - Missionary to Onondaga

Dec 8 - Grain in Atakapa

Jan 14, 1558 - Ontario converts!

Feb 9 - Colonists sent to Sault

Feb 12 - Rebels in Ottawa

Apr 2 - Wyandot expands and I send in more of those willing to go

July 9 - Revolt on Koln

July 17 - We win

Aug 12 - Cayuga converts

Sept 6 - We establish a colony in Sault.

Sept 25 - Wyandot expands.

Nov 9 - Revolt in Niagara

Nov 12 - Yuck. Cotton in Wyandot

Dec 1 - We recapture Auvergne from rebels. I moved my Hainaut army down to regather it.

Dec 4 - Niagara now rebel free

Jan 1, 1559 - Chitimacha gorwn

Chitimacha - 2504, Irish Catholic, farmers, 2,4 ducats, fort ordered, adjacent to Bayougoula and Atakapa and unsettled Caddo (inland LA and TX)


Feb 1 - Same with…


Potawatomi - 1503 Irish Catholics, fur traders, 5.8 ducats, fort ordered, next to us in Wyandot, Niagara through a straight, and unknown provinces (Michigan lower half)

Feb 28 - Sault expands

Apr 24 - Castille again Defender of the Faith

May 2 - Missionary to Ottawa, and the final Huron province now has a missionary

Our badboy has dropped to 2.3, fyi

Let’s increase it a tad.

I offer Scotland annexation.

They reject

Aug 9 - Castille and Portugal have set up in the Gulf of Mexico provinces beside me.

I send more colonists to Atakapa in order to speed things up a bit

Sept 22 - I offer Scotland another chance to join our mighty nation.

They accept

I now officially have all of the British Isles under my banner, unless you count the Orkney Islaes.



Highlands - 5486 Reform Scottish wool makers create 6.14 ducats, have a temple, courthouse and workshop, and a revolt risk of 9. They are next to Fife and Aberdeen and can move across straights to Orkney and the Western Isles


Western Isles - 2149 Scottish Reform, workshop and temple, 8.76 ductas in the fish trade, 9% rate too, only can move to Highlands


I move the army in Fife to Highlands

[Abe Sargent]

The Irish Colonial Age: Nearing the End - Narrowing Focus


Oct 8 - Revolt in Western Isles

Dec 9 - Rebels in Huron

Jan 3, 1560 - Victoire in Huron

Feb 2 - I order level 1 forts in many of the provinces that have gone without up until now

Apr 1 - Atakapa expands. Okay, I want to put a colony in Caddo, but the natives are quite aggressive. I’ve saved up some colonists, and my plan is to blanket it with colonists until it is set up. Just one set after another.

The first leave now, and have a 78% chance of taking

Apr 17 - Huron converts

May 1 - Hungary declared free from castille

June 1 - NLD - Michigan

Sept 1 - Taqamkuk is now a core

Oct 9 - revolt in Huron

Oct 20 - Defeated

Nov 15 - My King, who has ruled for 42 years, has passed.

Cathal O’Neill is our new ruler, but he had a weak claim, so our legitimacy is down to 30, we have rebels in Epekwitk. Cathal is already in his mid-30s. Admin 6, Dip 9, Mil 3. His son is Turlough, so our succession is safe.

Nov 16 - RM with Brittany, Auvergne

Bohemia and the HRE passed a law and now all of my vassals are Bohemia’s. That means Holland and Oldenburg are no longer mine. So I only have one vassal left 0 Auvergne. Note that they are still my allies.

Nov 17 - France rejects our RM offer. Caddo is colonized and more are dispatched, as I said.

Now if I wanted to, I could Excommunicate DOW Bohemia. However, with their 20 vassals or so, that would be quite difficult

Dec 5 - Missionary to Taqamkuk

Dec 9 - Revolt in Onondaga

Dec 18 - Defeated

Jan 16, 1561 - We get a temporary CB against a couple of provinces in Oldenburg due to border tension

Feb 1 - Pamlico a core now

Feb 12 - Rebels in Taqamkuk

Mar 1 - Bahamas, Turks and Santeee are all now cores

Mar 15 - Rebels in Epekwitk killed, and that ends the Pretendder issue

Apr 7 - Rebels in Taqamkuk killed

May 9 - Minorities to Algonquin



Algonquin - 1729, Protestant, Irish, fur traders, 4.58 ducats, I order a fort, next to Hochelega, Ottawa, Sault, and Onatario, plus an unknown province. Religious Migration.

[Abe Sargent]

The Irish Colonial Age: Nearing the End - Stabilizing and Integrating Over Expansion



June 1 -NLD Miami

June 12 - France rejects a third RM offer.

June 30 Caddo expands

July 1 - Luxemburg defects to Burgundy

Aug 1 0 Land Enclosures in Lothian and Martinique

Aug 9 - Rebellion in Western Isles

Aug 26- Defeated

I cancel our access through France

France has had decades and decades to clean up her mess, and she hasn’t.


Oct 17 - I send France an insult

Dec 1 - Another insult

Jan 1, 1562 - It looks like Hesse, as I inspect it, has left the HRE at some point in time, because hey are not a vassal of Bohemia. Good for you Hesse. I have no designs on your remaining provinces, so you’re good.

Note that Austria did become a vassal of Bohemia. That’s gotta be odd


Jan 25 - Bohemia Defender of Faith

Feb 10 Caddo expands

We finished our mission in Yorkshire and a get a new one to build a weapons Manufactory this time in Ayrshire, Maybe

Wow, there is a five star Banker out there I could hire, and it would give me -55% interest, that would be awesome. The other way to do it is to build Tax Assessors when you get 31 government. I currently have 18. That might be a while.


Feb 25 - Seneca converts

Mar 8 - rebels in Onondaga

Mar 15 - Cotton in Caddo

Mar 20 -Rebels no more

May 1 - Navarra declared independent from France We enter a RM with them

May 10 - I send colonists to Miami

June 3 - I send a Missionary to Highlands

July 1 - We fabricate papers against France.

I try to DOW France, but it tells me that Austria is the Defender of the Protestant Faith, but Austria is Catholic. How does that work?

Aug 1 - NSD Lake Michigan

Aug 30 Fur in Sault

Sept 1 - Prod Tech Increase

Sept 22 - Caddo expands

Oct 4 - Martinique converts!

[Abe Sargent]

The Irish Colonial Age: Nearing the End - The Remnants of a Colonial Policy




Nov 1 - Slider time. We move more Naval

Nov 23 - Miami established

Dec 1 - Revolt in Seneca

Decc 22 0 Killed

Apr 1, 1563 - Govnment Tech Increase

As long as Austria is Defender of the Protestant Faith, oddly, then I will nto risk a war with France to bring them in. My CB on France ends July 1, but I will let it expire.

May 3 - Caddo expands

June 2 - Portugal screwed up, possibly. They DOW’d Meissen. Noiw the entire HRE and all of the vassals are coming after Portugal

I have an alliance CB against Portugal because my allies are at war with them.

July 1 -


Choctaw - 2004 Irish Catholics, tobacco, 2.46 ducats, fort, next to two Cherokee provinces in Chichasaw and Tuskegeee, north of Mobile, Bayougoula, east of Caddo



Oct 8 - I have managed to convince the Cherokee to open their market to me, and I send merchants to their COT in Chickasaw. I can monopoly it, and the Cherokee only have one merchant there, so despite the fact that it only gets 120 ducats in trade, I may have the lion’s share of that very soon

Dec 13 - Caddo expands


Dec 24 -


Atakapa - I order a fort here. 2091 Irish Catholic farmers make us 2.72 ducats. East of Castille in Karankawa, west of us in Caddo and Chitimacha, and south of inland provinces(s) unknown

[Abe Sargent]

The Irish Colonial Age Ends




Jan 1, 1564 - Martinique is now a core

I send a Missionary to Western Isles

Mar 4 - Rebellion in Western Isles

Mar 9 - Castille Defender of Faith again

July 24 - Caddo expands

Sept 11 - Rm with Aragon

Sept 28 - I get a Boundary Dispute with France and ai Presse it, getting a core on Cambray

Dec 1 - I have a new idea

Dec 29 - Brittany gives me military access

Feb 2, 1565 - Castille opened up their COT to me again Maybe they want to make nice since we are now neighbors

I send colonists to Michigan and Cree

Mar 4 -


Caddo - 3083 Irish catholic cotton farmers, 3083 ducats, fort, inland of Chitimacha ,Bayougoula, Atakapa, west of Choctaw, Cherokee in Chickasaw, and porbably next to several inland unknown provinces

June 1 - I extend our Sphere of Influence around Brittany

June 22 - I fund 6000 rebels in Liege

July 1 - Missionary sent to Lenape

Aug 6 - Failure to take in Cree, more colonists dispatched

Aug 17 - Taqamkuk converts

Aug 19 - Tobacco in Miami

Aug 23 - Colony founded in Michigan

Aug 27 - Cumbria becomes Reformed

Nov 4 - Western Isles converts

Dec 1 - NLD Tonkawa, just inside of Atakapa. I hold off on colonists. it’s a lousy province, high aggressive natives and low tax value of 1.

Feb 7, 1566 - Colony established in Cree

Mar 1 - NLD - Arkansas

I send in colonist

Apr 9 - Rebellion in Erie

May 23 - White Peace for Portugal and the HRE

July 21 - We win in Erie

Oct 26 Colonization failed in Arkansas

[Abe Sargent]

I feel like I am approaching the end of this dynasty. I know I’m not even 200 years in, but what is left? I haven’t had a large badboy in forever, I have the isles to myself, I have a nice chunk of continental real estate, I have almost every open province in Canada and the US other than Florida and south Texas, I’ve already colonized into the mid-west and Michigan, and up through Arkansas. I have Cuba, three Antilles islands, Turks, Bahamas, and Bermuda, plus The Canarias and Cameroon. How much longer before I’ve united my growing colony up the Mississippi river and the one in the Midwest? How much longer before I’ve colonized the west coast? that’s all I’m doing, colonizing. I haven’t waged war against Europe for new land at all. I’ve already bent the original rules of the dynasty to grab land in the lowlands and a bit in Germany, how much farther do I push? I’ve already met all of my goals.

I started Songhai with one goal - Unify Africa. I also took Mecca and the land path to it, like I though a Sunni state would want. After that, I was done, and I set the dynasty down. I started this dynasty with the desire to unite Ireland, take Britain, and colonize Canada and the US. No one can stop my colonization. We are so deep inland that no other power can stop us.

I have never taken Land of Opportunity before as my Idea, nor have I ever had a Estates General advisor (the colony grower) so I got a chance t o do some new things.

The new expansion does add a lot. The HRE stuff is awesome, so much so that I am tempted to try out an HRE power next time. One more edict and the HRE would have stopped being vassals and all been one country. Awesome. Magistrates and what they add are great. I absolutely adore cultural tradition and being able to choose your advisors, just like you can make generals, admirals, explores and conquistadors. I love the idea of an heir and legitimacy. Having visible badboy was great too. I think the expansion was a good one.

Each expansion really added a lot to EU3, no doubt. Decisions, additional spy options, missions and such have made the game much better.

[Abe Sargent]

What would I want to see in EU4?

The ability to do stuff with Wasteland provinces, like move across them with armies at a massive attrition, or the ability to make them settle-able with some serious financial input, etc. Make them small provinces and more realistic. There is no reason that jungles throughout Africa are very settle able, but inner Jungles are not. Many deserts are provinces, but some aren’t Many mountains are settle-able,m but a few aren’t. EU has always given you the historically used provinces, but there is no reason tot think that places like Montana and Idaho, or Quebec, couldn’t be settled. I rather have the choice, I don’t like being told I can’t do something.

I would like to see some diplomacy changes. I love diplomacy in this game, but sometimes weird stuff happens to your relations with another country, and you don’t know why. Within my first year at Barrois, some of the countries in the HRE with whom I began the game with good relations would invariably have severe relations in every time I tried to play it. My relations with Castille went from 140 to -40 in this game, and I could not tell you why. They should add a historical screen for each country you can click on to document all of the diplomatic changes that were made.

In EU2, economic products were always the same value. Chinaware was always uber-valuable, with Spices and Sugar quite high as well. In EU3, with the random product to a province, sometimes you get unrealistic products. There is no way you are getting cotton in the mountains, for example. You can’t get iron in the Applachian mountain chain, for example. Why not? Why not add Naval Supplies as one of the options in Jungle colonies, (in real life jungle colonies were often used to timber for boats)? In this game, they are too fickle. They need to hit a medium. Chinaware, with established trade to Europe, should always be the most valuable good. So should spices. Wars were fought over the spice trade. The entire exploration and colonial effort was started simply to break Venice’s hold on the spice trade. Spies were so valuable, that they drove diplomacy, war, and exploration for centuries. In the game, they should not be less valuable than things like Copper and Wine. If you have a spice province in the Caribbean, that is money on trees literally. Salt, Spices, Chinaware - some products should always be near the top of the food chain.

And some should always be near the bottom. Naval supplies, grain, fish, wool - these should always be chump provinces, although sometimes in EU3, you get a weird economy like I had where grain is more valuable than cotton, tobacco, etc. These provinces instead should have other abilities. Grain provinces should give you better manpower (they do), naval supplies should help with building or upkeeping ships, etc.

I want you to be able to have a decision that changes a province’s good. This happened a lot in real life. Bermuda went from naval supplies (lumber) to tobacco. One of the Caribbean colonies whose name escapes me moved to spices after they were imported from Asia. Trinidad went from sugar to cocoa. Antigua went from tobacco to sugar. This happened in real life. Besides, shouldn’t you be able to move from cotton to grain or from tobacco to grain with little trouble?

I want to see dyes, wax, whales, New World foods, pearls and silver mines. Perhaps even cocoa and rubber. Take Socotra, for example. Socotra was quite valuable in real life, because only on it could you find the sap, Dragon’s Blood, which was used as a dye. But, in EU, there are no dyes, so how do you value the province? You Can’t give it spice, that’s over-egging it. What do you do? It would be nice if, after years of playing with the same 20, we get a few new things to play with. Especially since many are localized to certain regions of the world, like slaves or tobacco, tea or chinaware. Another example is Margarita, which had a strong pearl farming economy, so powerful, that the Spanish began to raid Trinidad as slaves for its operation in 1511.

I’ve mentioned in the Songhai dynasty the surrealness of an empire that had so many slave provinces. Could you imagine Rome selling off its citizens as slaves to the Germanic Tribes for profit? That needs to be fixed.

For colonies, in EU2, you could build a colony or a trading post, but the Trading Post idea is gone. Why? I like it. I would like to see it return along with two new options. In addition to building colonies or posts, what if you could build a fort there, or a Mission there. The mission would take a missionary and try to convert without you being there, but you would fund it like other missionaries. You could claim an area with a Fort and some soldiers to gaud it, and then colonize later. Make that take up some manpower or something, and not a colonist. Then you can move sliders into and out of the province without always having to face natives.

I also think there should be an economic advantage to having a majority of the provinces that make something. It you have 8 of the 10 tea province in the world, there should be some extra bonuses.

[Tasan]

Loved the dynasty Abe. Very engaging. I'm gonna fire up EU3 and give it another whirl. I used to play EU1 all the time when it came out, EU2 kind of burnt me out, and EU3 has barely gotten any play from me. Time to fix that, I think.

[Abe Sargent]

Awesome

[Cap Ologist]

I was looking online and if I buy EU3 Complete and EU3 Rome, would that cover all the expansion packs?

[Abe Sargent]

EU Rome is a different game and many do not like it.

EU3 has these expansions:

Napoleon's ambition
In Nomine
Heir to the Throne


I think complete has the first two.

[sabotai]

Right, EU3: Complete only has the first two expansions. They didn't intend to make a 3rd expansion, but I'm glad they did. EU: Rome is a different game. The original game was basic and "bleh", but the expansion did add a lot to it and I liked it after that. Still plenty of minor complaints, though. I was thinking of diving into modding it to see what I could do with it. I enjoy EU: Rome + the expansion, but EU3 + the three expansions is much, much better.