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Old 09-09-2003, 03:06 PM   #1
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OT - Ten clues puzzle

Here’s another puzzle to work on… there’s the easy part, which is to find the intended reference for each item listed below. Then, there’s the tough part – figuring out what the hell to do with all those individual answers. The single final answer, of course, will be evident once you have solved both of those parts.

Tropicana’s chicken specialty
City of Five Flags
"Eyes Without a Face" album
Walter's historic ticket mate
Steve Douglas has got them
Jazz trumpeter known for extended cheeks
Nobelite Kilby’s great advance
For my club, my community, my country, and my world
Denying rumored sale to Disney
Modern phone with array of buttons rather than dial


In all likelihood, you will need some obtuse clues to bring this one home. Here is the first one:

The ten clues above conveniently include a sandwiched pair of secondary clues on how to get started with “part two” of the puzzle.

Good luck.

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Old 09-09-2003, 03:16 PM   #2
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Re: OT - Ten clues puzzle

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Tropicana’s chicken specialty
City of Five Flags
"Eyes Without a Face" album
Walter's historic ticket mate--Geraldine
Steve Douglas has got them
Jazz trumpeter known for extended cheeks
Nobelite Kilby’s great advance
For my club, my community, my country, and my world
Denying rumored sale to Disney
Modern phone with array of buttons rather than dial


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Old 09-09-2003, 03:16 PM   #3
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What's with all the damn puzzles? Why do you derive such pleasure from tormenting those of us with feeble minds? Are you some sort of perverse intellectual masochist?

Anyway, here's what I get at first glance:

Tropicana’s chicken specialty - I thought they made orange juice
City of Five Flags - Sorry... been to Six Flags, but they have 'em in lots of cities.
"Eyes Without a Face" album - Billy Idol
Walter's historic ticket mate - Geraldine Ferraro
Steve Douglas has got them - Crabs? I don't know, and I didn't give 'them' to him, whatever they are...
Jazz trumpeter known for extended cheeks - I can picture him, but I'm bad with names.
Nobelite Kilby’s great advance - Silicone breast implants (wild guess... I could be wrong)
For my club, my community, my country, and my world - Mylanta?
Denying rumored sale to Disney - No clue...
Modern phone with array of buttons rather than dial - Touch tone
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Old 09-09-2003, 03:17 PM   #4
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Tropicana’s chicken specialty

Tic-Tac-Toe

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Jazz trumpeter known for extended cheeks

Dizzy Gillespie

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Modern phone with array of buttons rather than dial

Touch Tone
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Old 09-09-2003, 03:20 PM   #5
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"City of Five Flags "

Pensacola
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Old 09-09-2003, 03:20 PM   #6
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"Jazz trumpeter known for extended cheeks"

Louis Armstrong?
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Old 09-09-2003, 03:27 PM   #7
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"Jazz trumpeter known for extended cheeks"

Louis Armstrong?


Dizzy Gillespie



Louis Armstrong



Dizzy wins in a landslide...
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Old 09-09-2003, 03:31 PM   #8
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"Eyes Without a Face" album

Billy Idol's "Rebel Yell" Album.
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Old 09-09-2003, 03:38 PM   #9
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"Dizzy wins in a landslide... "

I would say so.
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Old 09-09-2003, 03:40 PM   #10
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Ok, so far we've got:

Tic-Tac-Toe
Pensacola
Rebel Yell
Geraldine Ferraro
My Three Sons
Dizzy Gillespie
Integrated Circuit/Microchip
4H
????
Touch Tone
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Old 09-09-2003, 03:42 PM   #11
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"Eyes Without a Face" album

Billy Idol's "Rebel Yell" Album.


Man, I actually HAVE that LP somewhere. Is the title Rebel Yell? I can't remember. White Wedding? Something else?
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Old 09-09-2003, 03:47 PM   #12
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Steve Douglas has got them = My Three Sons
Kilby's Nobel Invention = Integrated Circuit
For my club, community, country, world: 4H Club
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Old 09-09-2003, 03:48 PM   #13
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"Steve Douglas has got them"

The only Steve Douglas I know of is a fullback for UTEP. Maybe it's shoulderpads?

"Nobelite Kilby’s great advance"

I cheated and googled it. Should I just save the answer for now in case somebody knows it, or should I go ahead and post it?

"For my club, my community, my country, and my world"

See above
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Old 09-09-2003, 03:48 PM   #14
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Nevermind, shkspr beat me to them...
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Old 09-09-2003, 03:51 PM   #15
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"Denying rumored sale to Disney"

I found this. It seems like a ling shot, but I dunno...

"Listeners to radio station WEVD-AM 1050 in New York City have been
lobbying the owners of the station, The Forward Association, not to sell the stand-alone, news-talk
radio station to Disney/ABC/ESPN. The rumored sale price is considered to be in the neighorhood
of $80-85 million, with the new owners using the freqeuncy to be the flagship station of the growing
ESPN sports-radio network. The efforts by the listeners group, SaveWEVD, and the creation
of the web site www.SaveWEVD.com has been ignored by The Forward Association"
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Old 09-09-2003, 03:52 PM   #16
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Where's Chief Rum when you need him. Who sold the Angels to Disney?
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Old 09-09-2003, 03:55 PM   #17
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Disney just sold the Angels, not the other way around...
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Old 09-09-2003, 03:55 PM   #18
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The Disney thing is neither the Angels (who were just sold by Disney, if I recall correctly) nor the radio station above. Might need a new clue there, eh? (Too many things rumored to be being sold to Disney)
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Old 09-09-2003, 03:56 PM   #19
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I could start a new rumor, and declare that my left gonad is being sold to Disney...
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Old 09-09-2003, 03:57 PM   #20
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... and then subsequently deny it. Does that help?
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Old 09-09-2003, 03:58 PM   #21
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Disney just sold the Angels, not the other way around...


In order to SELL them, they had to BUY them. Quik didn't say this was a current events puzzle.

{EDIT: Of course he DID say that it wasn't the Angels. }
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Old 09-09-2003, 03:59 PM   #22
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"Rumors are circulating at the station that District-based Allbritton Communications Co., which owns WJLA and eight other stations, has resumed negotiations to sell its portfolio of TV properties to Walt Disney Co."

??????????????
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Old 09-09-2003, 04:00 PM   #23
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In order to SELL them, they had to BUY them. Quik didn't say this was a current events puzzle.

{EDIT: Of course he DID say that is wasn't the Angels. }


But they "denying" part makes it sound current.

Oh, and he just said that the Angels aren't right...

Edit: Grrr...why you gotta edit it before I can set you right...
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Old 09-09-2003, 04:03 PM   #24
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Okay, I cheated:

A high-ranking Golden executive told PW last week that there was "no credence whats ver" to rumors that the Walt Disney Company may be interested in acquiring the struggling children's publisher. The reports were sparked by remarks made by Disney chairman Michael Eisner last week that the giant entertainment company was considering making a bid for Golden.
Disney is Golden's most important publishing license. In fall 1997, Disney renewed the license for an additional five years, a contract that commits Golden to pay Disney at least $47 million over the course of the contract.



Could THIS be it?
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Old 09-09-2003, 04:33 PM   #25
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Anyone else have any ideas?
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Old 09-09-2003, 04:36 PM   #26
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The Disney thing is infact current, but I'm starting to think that there are so many "Disney-is-buying-us" stories and rumors out there that this one woudl be just too tough to sort out on your end. Here's a substitute, or complementary, clue instead:

Four kids, but one dies, every time
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Old 09-09-2003, 04:37 PM   #27
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Well, I have a card game tonight... I'll probably check in in the morning, and see where you are with all this.
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Old 09-09-2003, 04:41 PM   #28
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The Disney thing is infact current, but I'm starting to think that there are so many "Disney-is-buying-us" stories and rumors out there that this one woudl be just too tough to sort out on your end. Here's a substitute, or complementary, clue instead:

Four kids, but one dies, every time


Oh, like that's any BETTER!
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Old 09-09-2003, 04:43 PM   #29
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Well, I have a card game tonight... I'll probably check in in the morning, and see where you are with all this.


Can't you give us a hint if we're right so far with our list?
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Old 09-09-2003, 04:45 PM   #30
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So we don't have to scroll so far:

Quote:
Originally posted by Buzzbee
Ok, so far we've got:

Tic-Tac-Toe
Pensacola
Rebel Yell
Geraldine Ferraro
My Three Sons
Dizzy Gillespie
Integrated Circuit/Microchip
4H
????
Touch Tone


And the missing one is EITHER:

"Denying rumored sale to Disney"

OR

"Four kids, but one dies, every time"

And this additional clue from QS:

The ten clues above conveniently include a sandwiched pair of secondary clues on how to get started with “part two” of the puzzle.
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Old 09-09-2003, 04:50 PM   #31
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Could the four kids thing be a reference to South Park, with the thinking that Kenny gets killed everytime? I don't know how many kids there are on that show. Have there been any Disney-South Park rumors lately?
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Old 09-09-2003, 04:57 PM   #32
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Disney/Comedy Central perhaps?
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Old 09-09-2003, 04:58 PM   #33
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Could the four kids thing be a reference to South Park, with the thinking that Kenny gets killed everytime? I don't know how many kids there are on that show. Have there been any Disney-South Park rumors lately?


Damn good thinking. This is from the Official South Park site...

"Recap: South Park has NOT been sold!
For those of you who have been sending me hundreds of FAQs telling us what horrible people we are for selling your favorite show in the world to Disney, have no fear, you have been mistaken. South Park is NOT being sold, the rights to play the show on other TV stations has. It is almost the same thing as FOX letting Cartoon Network play Futurama, and The Family Guy. Also, Mort Marcus, does not work for Disney. He is a former Disney employee who was given permission from Comedy Central to distribute the episodes for syndication. So don't panic, the episodes will play the same as they always have on Comedy Central, and the DVDs will still be sold with the regular amount of censorship they always have."
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Old 09-09-2003, 05:00 PM   #34
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Ok, so far we've got:

Tic-Tac-Toe
Pensacola
Rebel Yell
Geraldine Ferraro
My Three Sons
Dizzy Gillespie
Integrated Circuit/Microchip
4H
South Park
Touch Tone
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Old 09-09-2003, 05:01 PM   #35
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OK, so here we are now:

Tic-Tac-Toe
Pensacola
Rebel Yell
Geraldine Ferraro
My Three Sons
Dizzy Gillespie
Integrated Circuit/Microchip
4H
South Park
Touch Tone

The clue is: The ten clues above conveniently include a sandwiched pair of secondary clues on how to get started with “part two” of the puzzle.

Anyone know where to go from here?
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Old 09-09-2003, 05:02 PM   #36
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Buzzbee: I'm thinking the right answer is South Park, not Comedy Central. The line from the South Park site is about South Park, not Comedy Central overall...
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Old 09-09-2003, 05:03 PM   #37
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My initial thought was that the top and bottom clues may pair together and the middle two clues may pair together, forming a "sandwich," but I'm not sure "Tic-Tac-Toe/Touch Tone and My Three Sons/Dizzy Gillespie" gets us anywhere.
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Old 09-09-2003, 05:06 PM   #38
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Well, a tic-tac-toe grid is pretty much the same shape as a touch tone number pad...
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Old 09-09-2003, 05:08 PM   #39
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"sandwiched pair"

Any ideas on which ones constitute the sandwiched pair?

My THREE sons and FOUR H?
Geraldine Ferraro and Dizzy Gillespie?
Pensacola and South Park?
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Buzzbee: I'm thinking the right answer is South Park, not Comedy Central. The line from the South Park site is about South Park, not Comedy Central overall...


JeeberD - You are just tooooo sloooooow today. You just can't keep up with my editing skills. That's twice I've done that to you today.
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Old 09-09-2003, 06:52 PM   #41
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I wonder if the telephone key pad has anything to do with it...and a tic tac toe board. Hmmm...The 1 key and the 0 key have no letters--neither do the pound or star, but I was discounting them because we only have ten clues.
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Old 09-09-2003, 07:10 PM   #42
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well we know QS watches The Wire. In season one it there was a code used with beepers where the phone number they would put in was a tic tac toe theme, "jumping the 5" as it were.
1=9
2=8
3=7
4=6
and 5=0 I think.
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Old 09-09-2003, 07:15 PM   #43
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Dola,

Reordering the clues along this theme gives us:


South Park
4H
Integrated Circuit/Microchip
Dizzy Gillespie
Touch Tone
Geraldine Ferraro
Rebel Yell
Pensacola
Tic-Tac-Toe
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Old 09-09-2003, 08:24 PM   #44
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I know, it is rumored (from a Universal exec) that Disney got Harry Potter.
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Old 09-09-2003, 09:12 PM   #45
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Harry Potter doesn't really work with his second clue...
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Old 09-09-2003, 09:41 PM   #46
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The key to deciphering the sandwiched clues lies in why

"Denying rumored sale to Disney" is the same code as "Four kids, but one dies, every time."

The wording must be very important. It took Quik 40 minutes once he decided to replace the clue to think up a replacement.

There are a couple places where he includes solecisms. Quik is normally very careful about grammar, so I'm guessing the wording itself is the clue.

For instance, he says "Steve Douglas has got them" rather than "Steve Douglas has them."

So, why are the two South Park clues alike? They don't have the same number of words, and only one pair - the fifth (Disney and dead) even begin with the same letter.

Figure this out, and the rest is easy.
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Old 09-09-2003, 09:47 PM   #47
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I'll add a grid that should help. I'm thinking the clues tell us how to read this grid.

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T I C T A C T O E P E N S A C O L A R E B E L Y E L L G E R A L D I N E T H R E E S O N S G I L L E S P I E M I C R O C H I P F O U R H C L U B S O U T H P A R K T O U C H T O N E

Lots of vowels and common consonants. I'm thinking the answer is straight out of the grid once we know where to start.

The first letters of the clues, however, don't look like words. I'm not ruling out a telephone keypad being part of the solution, but not having anything to match 1 or 10 makes it a bit of a stretch.
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Old 09-09-2003, 09:49 PM   #48
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Reminds me of the Sherlock Holmes grid.
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Old 09-09-2003, 09:58 PM   #49
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Something tells me this a bit too complicated for someone who's doped up on Oxy to figure out....

(Oxy is what was prescribed as a painkiller)
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I didn't know you could get high off of zit cream...
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