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Old 12-12-2021, 11:54 PM   #1951
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Where will Cameron Ward end up?
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Old 12-13-2021, 05:11 AM   #1952
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Weird (and misleading) stat of the day
2019 - Nix wins
2020 - Saban out due to corona
2021 - Nix out injured


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Old 12-13-2021, 05:22 AM   #1953
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Where will Cameron Ward end up?

Your guess is as good as mine most likely.

His dad says he's "looking for the right system". He's relatively inexperienced as a passer -- played for a Wing-T team in HS -- so the right situation becomes even more important.

I hope that he finds what he needs at a mid-major and continues to develop. Not sure I'd want my P5 program to roll the dice that big tbh, high ceiling but feels low a low floor too.
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Old 12-13-2021, 08:20 AM   #1954
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I know this is unfair but this feels feels like Tate Martell 2.0

Former 5-star recruit Quinn Ewers will join Texas football as transfer QB, have four years of eligibility
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Old 12-13-2021, 09:27 AM   #1955
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All of the drama, but he actually has the talent as well.
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Old 12-13-2021, 09:54 AM   #1956
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Large bags of cash have been promised. Will be easy to root against him and his current team. Texas trying to blatantly buy wins. Cant say I blame them - its the new norm now.
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Old 12-13-2021, 10:06 AM   #1957
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what a weird cycle for him Committed to Texas, then decommitted, committed to Ohio State, left high school a year early, sat on the bench, entered the portal, committed to Texas
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Old 12-13-2021, 12:15 PM   #1958
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Your guess is as good as mine most likely.

His dad says he's "looking for the right system". He's relatively inexperienced as a passer -- played for a Wing-T team in HS -- so the right situation becomes even more important.

I hope that he finds what he needs at a mid-major and continues to develop. Not sure I'd want my P5 program to roll the dice that big tbh, high ceiling but feels low a low floor too.

From what I've seen from his offers, Houston feels like a great fit. Also saw Ole Miss offered him a scholarship. The jump from Incarnate Word to the SEC seems a bit much.
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Old 12-13-2021, 12:38 PM   #1959
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Large bags of cash have been promised. Will be easy to root against him and his current team. Texas trying to blatantly buy wins. Cant say I blame them - its the new norm now.

Come on. He only went to Ohio State early for the year because he could sign the NIL deal that Texas does not allow for high school athletes. Ohio State had to know there was a good chance he'd go back, especially after the success of Stroud.

He already got his back of cash.
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Old 12-13-2021, 12:38 PM   #1960
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Zach Calzada in the portal. Probably makes a ton of sense as I'm sure they can do better but... he did beat Alabama this year.
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Old 12-13-2021, 12:52 PM   #1961
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Zach Calzada in the portal. Probably makes a ton of sense as I'm sure they can do better but... he did beat Alabama this year.

After seeing the Calzada story, I did some looking around and ended up compiling a list

Texas A&M QB Zach Calzada
USC QB Kedon Slovis
Auburn QB Bo Nix
OU QB Spencer Rattler
LSU QB Max Johnson
LSU QB Myles Brennan
Indiana QB Michael Penix Jr.
Ohio State QB Jack Miller
Nebraska QB Adrian Martinez
UCF QB Dillon Gabriel
Purdue QB Jack Plummer
Penn State QB Ta'Quan Roberson
Tennessee QB Harrison Bailey
Clemson QB Taisun Phommachanh
I-AA sensation Incarnate Word QB Cameron Ward
Georgia Tech QB Tyler Yates

And that doesn't include less familiar names such as 2x portal travelers Charlie Brewer (Baylor, Utah) or guys at Boise, Hawaii, Akron, and UAB just to name a few.

ex-Baylor QB Jacob Zeno committed to UAB
ex-tOSU QB Jake Ewers committed to Texas
Fresno State QB Jake Haener returned after flirting in the portal

edit to add: I hear that ex Vol Brian Maurer (portal entry back in August) seems to be headed to UTSA, also add to the list the Va Tech backup, UVA's #3 and #4 qbs, and soon-to-be-well-traveled Matthew McKay (ex-NC State) who then bailed out on Montana State two days prior to their playoff game a couple weeks ago
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Old 12-13-2021, 01:35 PM   #1962
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Could Nix have stayed longer if he wanted to? That one feels so weird since they basically rolled out the red carpet for him and have given him a lot of opportunities. Haven't follow their last couple games but was there a situation where he lost or would lose his job next year?
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Old 12-13-2021, 01:47 PM   #1963
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Could Nix have stayed longer if he wanted to? That one feels so weird since they basically rolled out the red carpet for him and have given him a lot of opportunities. Haven't follow their last couple games but was there a situation where he lost or would lose his job next year?

Could he have stayed? I know of no reason he couldn't. Might have been in an actual QB competition for the first time since he was anointed as the starter but nothing says he would have definitely lost the battle either.

There's _rumors_ that aren't particularly flattering to be honest. (involving him + his father issuing ultimatums to the HC about the next OC hire and being told to hit the bricks)
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Old 12-13-2021, 02:14 PM   #1964
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Come on. He only went to Ohio State early for the year because he could sign the NIL deal that Texas does not allow for high school athletes. Ohio State had to know there was a good chance he'd go back, especially after the success of Stroud.

He already got his back of cash.

The reclassification was interesting - happened just a few weeks after our governor (I should change my location - we've been in Ohio for more than two years now) signed an executive order allowing NIL money.

Apparently, he only "needed" one class to graduate high school a year early, so that could be addressed quickly.

I don't think the idea was ever that he'd play for Ohio State as a reclassified freshman. And Stroud probably goes pro in 2023. So I'm surprised about this. NIL was the reason he reclassified, but he dropped Texas and chose Ohio State in 2020, before NIL was a thing. Makes me think his experience as a backup this season didn't go well.
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Old 12-13-2021, 02:21 PM   #1965
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Weird (and misleading) stat of the day
2019 - Nix wins
2020 - Saban out due to corona
2021 - Nix out injured


RedditCFB on Twitter: "Hard to believe, but Bo Nix has never lost to Nick Saban. 🤯… "

I don't mean to brag, but I, too, have never lost to Nick Saban as a starting QB.
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Old 12-13-2021, 02:35 PM   #1966
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Could he have stayed? I know of no reason he couldn't. Might have been in an actual QB competition for the first time since he was anointed as the starter but nothing says he would have definitely lost the battle either.

There's _rumors_ that aren't particularly flattering to be honest. (involving him + his father issuing ultimatums to the HC about the next OC hire and being told to hit the bricks)

Thanks. I saw the graduate transfer note so I didn't know if that meant he was no longer eligible at Auburn. Just seems odd because he was treated like royalty since he got there despite being pretty mediocre at best.
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Old 12-13-2021, 03:16 PM   #1967
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Just seems odd because he was treated like royalty since he got there despite being pretty mediocre at best.

The story, I guess, turned out to be too good to resist.

5* recruit that talked openly about having never wanted anything more than to be an Auburn Tiger. Son of a former Auburn QB, who then turned to coaching at both college and HS levels (helping his son to set the Alabama state records for both career passing yardage and career passing touchdowns)

Then he becomes only the 8th freshman to ever start at QB for Auburn, the first to do so in a season opener in over 70 years. Then he beats Oregon on national television in that debut, beats Alabama as a freshman, wins SEC Freshman of the Year.

And then the wheels pretty much came off.

2019 - 9-4 with Malzahn and OC Kenny Dillingham ... who then leaves to join Norvell at FSU

2020 - 6-5 with Malzahn and OC Chad Morris ... a season that got Gus fired and end Morris tenure after one season

2021 - 6-6 with Harsin and OC Mike Bobo ... a season that ended with Booboo being fired

Did the OCs kill Nix? Did Nix kill the OCs? Or maybe the situation did all of 'em in?

When Nix won the vacant starting job (Stidham had declared for the draft), he beat out Malik Willis (who then xferred to Liberty) and Joey Gatewood (who eventually xferred to Kentucky, and later to UCF).

2019, his backups were Gatewood and Cord Sandberg, who is now a 26 yr old sophomore after only returning to college football after several seasons in the Phillies organization as a 3rd round draft pick

2020, his backups were Bowling Green graduate transfer Grant Loy (who had 6 TDs and 11 Ints in his only season starting in the MAC) and Sandberg.

2021, his backup was at least ostensibly better, LSU expatriate T.J. Finley.

Basically, once Nix won the job there really wasn't a better option available than to keep putting him on the field. On the field behind a thin and questionable OL that was largely ignored by Malzahn for roughly 4 years.
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Old 12-13-2021, 03:40 PM   #1968
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I just hated watching them play on national TV because the announcers would never stop gushing about him and his Dad.

You mention that Oregon win, but he was horrendous for most of that game. Had a nice final drive but they definitely did not win because of him. And he was mostly a game manager in the Iron Bowl who rode a few defensive TDs to the win.

I just don't understand the hype behind him. Had some nice moments but has mostly been a mediocre QB in the SEC at best.
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Old 12-13-2021, 04:16 PM   #1969
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I don't mean to brag, but I, too, have never lost to Nick Saban as a starting QB.

Alabama has never beaten Kansas at football!

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Old 12-13-2021, 05:00 PM   #1970
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Come on. He only went to Ohio State early for the year because he could sign the NIL deal that Texas does not allow for high school athletes. Ohio State had to know there was a good chance he'd go back, especially after the success of Stroud.

He already got his back of cash.




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Old 12-13-2021, 05:02 PM   #1971
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He already got $1.3 million and more in NIL deals at Ohio State. Maybe it's more at Texas, but let's not pretend Ohio State is some victim here.
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Old 12-13-2021, 05:18 PM   #1972
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After seeing the Calzada story, I did some looking around and ended up compiling a list

Texas A&M QB Zach Calzada
USC QB Kedon Slovis
Auburn QB Bo Nix
OU QB Spencer Rattler
LSU QB Max Johnson
LSU QB Myles Brennan
Indiana QB Michael Penix Jr.
Ohio State QB Jack Miller
Nebraska QB Adrian Martinez
UCF QB Dillon Gabriel
Purdue QB Jack Plummer
Penn State QB Ta'Quan Roberson
Tennessee QB Harrison Bailey
Clemson QB Taisun Phommachanh
I-AA sensation Incarnate Word QB Cameron Ward
Georgia Tech QB Tyler Yates

And that doesn't include less familiar names such as 2x portal travelers Charlie Brewer (Baylor, Utah) or guys at Boise, Hawaii, Akron, and UAB just to name a few.

ex-Baylor QB Jacob Zeno committed to UAB
ex-tOSU QB Jake Ewers committed to Texas
Fresno State QB Jake Haener returned after flirting in the portal

edit to add: I hear that ex Vol Brian Maurer (portal entry back in August) seems to be headed to UTSA, also add to the list the Va Tech backup, UVA's #3 and #4 qbs, and soon-to-be-well-traveled Matthew McKay (ex-NC State) who then bailed out on Montana State two days prior to their playoff game a couple weeks ago




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Old 12-13-2021, 05:28 PM   #1973
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He already got $1.3 million and more in NIL deals at Ohio State. Maybe it's more at Texas, but let's not pretend Ohio State is some victim here.

I could be wrong but I'm fairly sure his biggest deal was for some new beverage company here in DFW. I know he had some local deals as well but those were likely forfeit when he left Ohio State. I don't see OSU as a victim in any way either, this is just a weird situation that will probably become the new norm. I think the bigger factor for his transfer is a 5 star QB in the same class that he has to compete with just to be the back-up next year. I also think homesickness was a factor too.
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Old 12-13-2021, 06:00 PM   #1974
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Really curious how its going to go with both Rattler and Gabriel going to UCLA. I just sent a text to my buddy, who is his personal QB coach asking about Rattler, as it seems Gio is one of the few with a good relationship with him, kid is not popular in Arizona coaching circles
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Old 12-13-2021, 06:10 PM   #1975
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Those are just crystal ball predictions not final destinations afaik - the one for Rattler is from 12/3
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Old 12-13-2021, 06:18 PM   #1976
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I sure as hell hope Norvell can land SOMEONE off that list. I mean, I love Jordan Travis - he singlehandedly has kept us afloat the past two years - but we need a legit, top tier QB for the future.
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Old 12-13-2021, 07:36 PM   #1977
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I'm wondering if Pitt might be interested in some of these guys. Too bad Whipple left as that probably would've been a good selling point based on how Pickett developed.
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Old 12-13-2021, 07:38 PM   #1978
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Iowa sure could use a QB, but our staff has just recently entered the 2000s, so it will be another decade before they realize the opportunity FA presents.
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Old 12-13-2021, 08:21 PM   #1979
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It doesn't matter if Georgia gets one because Kirby will just find another 5'9 walk on to start ahead of him.

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Old 12-13-2021, 08:26 PM   #1980
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Old 12-13-2021, 08:35 PM   #1981
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Which I just said should be worth 2-3 wins for them. That would put them in the same 8-4 to 9-3 range that had everyone excited about for Arkansas, so it seems like a very good get.
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Old 12-13-2021, 08:37 PM   #1982
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It doesn't matter if Georgia gets one because Kirby will just find another 5'9 walk on to start ahead of him.

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Your QB room is full up right now, no sense bringing anyone else in until at least 1-2 of the existing ones leave.
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Old 12-13-2021, 08:38 PM   #1983
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Also, reports now say Bigsby will remain at Auburn after a major sales pitch by Harsin
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Old 12-13-2021, 09:21 PM   #1984
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Really curious how its going to go with both Rattler and Gabriel going to UCLA. I just sent a text to my buddy, who is his personal QB coach asking about Rattler, as it seems Gio is one of the few with a good relationship with him, kid is not popular in Arizona coaching circles

If anyone spent two seconds around both Chip and Rattler, there was no way those two could ever fathom a season together.
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Old 12-13-2021, 09:21 PM   #1985
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They also got one of Rattler's talented teammates, tight end Austin Stogner.
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If anyone spent two seconds around both Chip and Rattler, there was no way those two could ever fathom a season together.

Yeah, I don't see it either old school overbearing ass vs entitled Diva? Not going to be pretty in westwood
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They also got one of Rattler's talented teammates, tight end Austin Stogner.

Missed this, so that answers my question about UCLA LOL
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Old 12-13-2021, 11:59 PM   #1988
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Clay Helton makes his presence known in Georgia (and Michigan) by getting a couple of flips today, a QB/WR pair of brothers from the Class A/Private state champs.

In getting them, he keeps a pair of 3* recruits in state both having previously been committed to Western Michigan. Bear with me for a bit of a laundry list here, my point is that Helton got the two highest rated QBs in the state that wouldn't have been making a step(s) down to go to Ga Southern, in other words he got the best available to him at this point (which is more than they'd done previously)

Stockton - UGA #7 QB natl
Horn - Mizzou #9
Brown - Miami #17
Geriner - Auburn #19
Morris - NC State #25
Swann - Vandy #26
Farrell - Va Tech #46
Archie - Coastal Carolina #53
Daniels - Stanford #62
French - Memphis #72 QB natl
Rozsman - Ga Southern (flipped from Appy State) #78 QB
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Old 12-14-2021, 07:48 AM   #1990
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Clay Helton makes his presence known in Georgia (and Michigan) by getting a couple of flips today, a QB/WR pair of brothers from the Class A/Private state champs.

In getting them, he keeps a pair of 3* recruits in state both having previously been committed to Western Michigan. Bear with me for a bit of a laundry list here, my point is that Helton got the two highest rated QBs in the state that wouldn't have been making a step(s) down to go to Ga Southern, in other words he got the best available to him at this point (which is more than they'd done previously)

Stockton - UGA #7 QB natl
Horn - Mizzou #9
Brown - Miami #17
Geriner - Auburn #19
Morris - NC State #25
Swann - Vandy #26
Farrell - Va Tech #46
Archie - Coastal Carolina #53
Daniels - Stanford #62
French - Memphis #72 QB natl
Rozsman - Ga Southern (flipped from Appy State) #78 QB
Dallas - Ga Southern (flipped from WMU) #91 QB

Your posts are making me want to fire up Bowl Bound again...
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Don't celebrate quite yet ... Michigan has been making a hard push for him for about a month now.
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Old 12-14-2021, 08:53 AM   #1992
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Don't celebrate quite yet ... Michigan has been making a hard push for him for about a month now.


Who the hell wants to go to Michigan when they can be at the beach?
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Old 12-14-2021, 09:16 AM   #1993
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Who the hell wants to go to Michigan when they can be at the beach?

At a beach sporting a mullet!
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Old 12-14-2021, 09:32 AM   #1994
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At a beach sporting a mullet!


No way he'd go to Michigan with that on the table right?
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No way he'd go to Michigan with that on the table right?

Beach Mullets > Khakis
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Georgia signs it's first commit for early signing day in Australia (it is already Wednesday there). Punter Brett Thorson.

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Yeah, I don't see it either old school overbearing ass vs entitled Diva? Not going to be pretty in westwood

UCLA's transfer target at QB is Dillion Gabriel
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Old 12-15-2021, 09:23 AM   #1998
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Welp, looks like FSU is already the big loser of NSD as its OC bolts for NIL-rich Oregon the morning of signing day. If this costs us Hunter or any other decent players today, this is just a further stake in the program. The current slide combined with the realities of NIL are going to bury FSU, I think.

In other news, it looks like Texas got a couple of big flips from OSU and Michigan this morning.
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Old 12-15-2021, 09:26 AM   #1999
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Welp, looks like FSU is already the big loser of NSD as its OC bolts for NIL-rich Oregon the morning of signing day. If this costs us Hunter or any other decent players today, this is just a further stake in the program. The current slide combined with the realities of NIL are going to bury FSU, I think.

In other news, it looks like Texas got a couple of big flips from OSU and Michigan this morning.

Pretty sure we've already lost out on a couple because of NIL. Heavy leans that all of sudden signed other places or delayed decision until Feb.
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Old 12-15-2021, 11:09 AM   #2000
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And there it is. Hunter signs with Deion Sanders at HBCU. Hard to compete with the narrative there, not sure what FSU could have done but holy shit we are the #1 story of NSD for all the wrong reasons.
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