If Trump Loses In November, What Do You Think Happens Next - Page 164

bronconick · 05-23-2023, 05:08 PM

Musk is South African, so no.

CrimsonFox · 05-23-2023, 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by bronconick

Musk is South African, so no.

lol what? he is?

RainMaker · 05-23-2023, 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by albionmoonlight

DeSantis is apparently going to launch his campaign in conjunction with Elon musk. DeSantis is a very smart guy; I wonder if he is not so much running for president as laying the groundwork to become the next Tucker Carlson. He’ll make a lot more money and have a lot less stress.

He has zero personality. Listen to the guy talk to anyone who isn't lobbing softball questions his way.

Say what you want about Tucker, but he's charismatic and knows how to talk to people.

CrimsonFox · 05-23-2023, 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by RainMaker

He has zero personality. Listen to the guy talk to anyone who isn't lobbing softball questions his way.

Say what you want about Tucker, but he's charismatic and knows how to talk to people.

and yet he is STILL more charismatic than trump who has negative charisma

flere-imsaho · 05-23-2023, 08:16 PM

Negative charisma to those who don't like him, absolutely positive charisma to those who do. No one on the fence.

RainMaker · 05-23-2023, 08:36 PM

Yeah, I know people don't like Trump but it's hard to say he doesn't have charisma. Especially when graded against other politicians.

Ksyrup · 05-23-2023, 08:42 PM

It's hard to take the politics and crimes out of it now, but I couldn't stand him years ago. But then, he was just an entitled smarmy POS that didn't matter to me. It still amazes me that anyone can listen to him and think he has some charm or intelligence.

Thomkal · 05-23-2023, 08:53 PM

Trump and/or his lawyers write a letter to Merrick Garland about how unfairly the Special Counsel is treating him and wants to meet with him to discuss it:

https://twitter.com/RonFilipkowski/s...78305171652608

(and probably try to blackmail/bribe him into dropping the case)

Lathum · 05-23-2023, 09:10 PM

They actually said in the memo he is being treated unfairly. It is unreal.

CrimsonFox · 05-23-2023, 09:16 PM

But...But....If I can't say negative thin gs about everyone, then I can't campaign...

Ksyrup · 05-23-2023, 09:32 PM

It's election interference to prosecute criminals who happen to be running for office. Who knew?

Thomkal · 05-23-2023, 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Ksyrup

It's election interference to prosecute criminals who happen to be running for office. Who knew?

Thank God for our democracy!

I love that he's mad at the judge for scheduling the trial to begin during campaign season and he has to be there for it

cuervo72 · 05-23-2023, 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Ksyrup

It's hard to take the politics and crimes out of it now, but I couldn't stand him years ago. But then, he was just an entitled smarmy POS that didn't matter to me. It still amazes me that anyone can listen to him and think he has some charm or intelligence.

I've said it before, but I'm still annoyed at his hastening the downfall of the USFL.

(I never understood the appeal of The Apprentice, either.)

Thomkal · 05-23-2023, 10:11 PM

Garland has replied to the letter, turning down the offer to meet because the Special Counsel is running the investigation

CrimsonFox · 05-23-2023, 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by cuervo72

I've said it before, but I'm still annoyed at his hastening the downfall of the USFL.

(I never understood the appeal of The Apprentice, either.)

that show was sooooo bad. I was a huge reality show junkie. Especially anything with celebrities. And the intro/theme song was cool. But the show was just sooo bad. Everything he said was babbling. And posturing. ANd peacocking. He would ramble for 5 minutes then fire someone that he wasn't even talking about. Never made any sense.

GrantDawg · 05-24-2023, 03:52 AM

He was by far the worst part or the show. His decisions were completely arbitrary and often contradictory. He would fire someone for something one week and then reward someone for doing the same thing the next. He would pull his advisors off the show if they started getting too much press attention until he finally just got rid of them all together to use his children. He constantly showed how petty and narcissistic he is.

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CrimsonFox · 05-24-2023, 05:48 AM

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Originally Posted by GrantDawg

He was by far the worst part or the show. His decisions were completely arbitrary and often contradictory. He would fire someone for something one week and then reward someone for doing the same thing the next. He would pull his advisors off the show if they started getting too much press attention until he finally just got rid of them all together to use his children. He constantly showed how petty and narcissistic he is.

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And Dennis Rodman drank too much

Thomkal · 05-24-2023, 05:55 AM

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Originally Posted by CrimsonFox

that show was sooooo bad. I was a huge reality show junkie. Especially anything with celebrities. And the intro/theme song was cool. But the show was just sooo bad. Everything he said was babbling. And posturing. ANd peacocking. He would ramble for 5 minutes then fire someone that he wasn't even talking about. Never made any sense.

I was a junkie too. Watched I don't know how many seasons of The Apprentice when it was just regular off the street people playing. I think because it was a new type of "game show" The novelty of Survivor, Amazing Race, Big Brother, etc drew me in, but I eventually stop watching all of them. I will most definitely watch Apprentice: Federal Prison though where all the Proud Boys, Oathkeepers, far-righters behind his administration, etc, compete to stay alive and become Trump's #1 enforcer.

albionmoonlight · 05-24-2023, 07:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Thomkal

Trump and/or his lawyers write a letter to Merrick Garland about how unfairly the Special Counsel is treating him and wants to meet with him to discuss it:

https://twitter.com/RonFilipkowski/s...78305171652608

(and probably try to blackmail/bribe him into dropping the case)

They refer to Biden as "President Biden." Interesting that they are making that concession.

CrimsonFox · 05-24-2023, 07:17 AM

that's a threat if I've ever seen one

and you know the lawyer was taking dictation

SirFozzie · 05-24-2023, 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by CrimsonFox

wait is Musk actually going to be Desantis' running mate? I keep seeing articles that are probably just written improperly but it made me think how funny that would be

Doesn't Musk fail the natural born citizen, thus not eligible.

NobodyHere · 05-24-2023, 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by SirFozzie

Doesn't Musk fail the natural born citizen, thus not eligible.

Well his maternal grandfather was apparently an American citizen, so shouldn't Musk's mother be a US citizen? And therefore Musk is a natural born citizen due to his mother?

Atocep · 05-24-2023, 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by albionmoonlight

They refer to Biden as "President Biden." Interesting that they are making that concession.

This is probably the strongest indication we've seen that at least the Trump side feels an indictment is coming. They decided to try a hail mary to head it off.

CrimsonFox · 05-24-2023, 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by SirFozzie

Doesn't Musk fail the natural born citizen, thus not eligible.

think about it tho. it would be great entertainment. Musk goes in as desantis running mate then tries to get more press than desantis then starts saying things like abortion is good. THen ends up quitting that game and running alone as an independent

CrimsonFox · 05-24-2023, 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by NobodyHere

Well his maternal grandfather was apparently an American citizen, so shouldn't Musk's mother be a US citizen? And therefore Musk is a natural born citizen due to his mother?

GrantDawg · 05-24-2023, 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by NobodyHere

Well his maternal grandfather was apparently an American citizen, so shouldn't Musk's mother be a US citizen? And therefore Musk is a natural born citizen due to his mother?

Nope. He is a citizen of Canada and South Africa, though. He is a naturalized citizen of the US.

NobodyHere · 05-24-2023, 02:42 PM

But aren't the children of US citizens automatically natural born citizens?

Atocep · 05-24-2023, 02:52 PM

Of all the corrupt pieces of shit out there, Ken Paxton may be the most corrupt.

The fact that his own party had to investigate him and has now found he likely committed multiple misdemeanors and felonies is crazy.

This comes as he tries to use state funds to pay a $3 million settlement as a result of his corruption.

https://apnews.com/article/texas-ken...%20retaliation.

Ksyrup · 05-24-2023, 03:01 PM

But he got my parents $28 from TurboTax!

NobodyHere · 05-24-2023, 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Ksyrup

But he got my parents $28 from TurboTax!

I'm still waiting on my check

Ksyrup · 05-24-2023, 03:13 PM

I'm sure this will help win over suburban moms.

Candace Owens: “Do not shop at Target, or else you're gay and you're a pervert” pic.twitter.com/TdCLh9msKo
— Jason S. Campbell (@JasonSCampbell) May 24, 2023

GrantDawg · 05-24-2023, 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by NobodyHere

But aren't the children of US citizens automatically natural born citizens?

Nope. She never became a citizen. It is not automatic, it only transfers from a parent that meet certain requirements. She never became a US citizen. She did allow him to become a Canadian citizen.

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Elon got Canadian citizenship through his mother. Then he came to the US as a student from Canada. After completing a bachelor’s degree and deferring the Ph.D. for six months, Elon started an internet company — Zip2. When investors in Zip2 realized Elon does not have a green card, they helped Elon to get an EB-5 investor green card in 1997. In 2002, Elon became a US citizen through the naturalization process.

GrantDawg · 05-24-2023, 07:25 PM

Oh, boy...
https://twitter.com/RightWingWatch/s...-1234741082%2F

albionmoonlight · 05-24-2023, 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Ksyrup

I'm sure this will help win over suburban moms.

Candace Owens: “Do not shop at Target, or else you're gay and you're a pervert” pic.twitter.com/TdCLh9msKo
— Jason S. Campbell (@JasonSCampbell) May 24, 2023

I’ve seen a lot of pro LGBTQA+ people mad at Target for caving to the anti-gay pressure. But the anti-gay crowd still seems to be boycotting Target. Wonder if Target managed to screw this up both ways.

Lathum · 05-24-2023, 07:57 PM

I went to Target today but didn't buy anything. Does that make me bi curious?

RainMaker · 05-24-2023, 08:08 PM

I will be shocked if Desantis makes it to Super Tuesday.

Lathum · 05-24-2023, 08:09 PM

yeah, Trumps team is brilliant with this sort of stuff. I wonder if this makes Younkin jump in.

Ksyrup · 05-24-2023, 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by albionmoonlight

I’ve seen a lot of pro LGBTQA+ people mad at Target for caving to the anti-gay pressure. But the anti-gay crowd still seems to be boycotting Target. Wonder if Target managed to screw this up both ways.

I think they tried to have it both ways by announcing the reason they pulled the stuff was due to threats against their employees/stores, intimating they were still on the side of LGBTQA+ and that it was the anti-gay crowd that was threatening violence. But at the end of the day, it worked, right?

Vegas Vic · 05-25-2023, 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by RainMaker

I will be shocked if Desantis makes it to Super Tuesday.

We'll see. As I recall, Hillary Clinton had a similar "insurmountable" lead in the polls against Barack Obama in May 2007.

NobodyHere · 05-25-2023, 12:13 PM

I wonder how Trump's upcoming criminal trial will shakes things up. Right now it's tentatively scheduled for Mar 24, 2024, which is a couple weeks after Super Tuesday.

Imagine if Trump wraps up the nomination by then and is convicted. DeSantis has to put that image into voter's heads if he wants to win. I'd like to think even most Republicans wouldn't want a convicted felon on top of the ticket going into the general election. I know you'll have your core Trumpers galvanized by how "unfair" the process was. But surely there are enough Republicans know that that won't play well to your typical fence-sitting voter.

thesloppy · 05-25-2023, 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Vegas Vic

We'll see. As I recall, Hillary Clinton had a similar "insurmountable" lead in the polls against Barack Obama in May 2007.

The catch there is that Hilalry has always been consideered 'unlikable' by voters, and was going up against a candidate with much more obvious charisma. in DeSatnsis' case it's the guy who is already trailing by 30+ points that nobody likes. Donald Trump's legal status will be the real determining factor.

Thomkal · 05-25-2023, 12:27 PM

Oath Keeper leader Stewart Rhodes gets 18 years. Less than I would have liked but the defense pleading for "time served" was just beyond ridiculous. So now Republicans please let us know when you have the whistleblowers, evidence and phone calls that shows Antifa/Black Lives Matter/Pelosi/Biden etc were behind it all. We're waiting..

RainMaker · 05-25-2023, 01:41 PM

Yeah, the defense team even remarked at how lenient they thought the sentence was. 18 years is a long time but well under the recommended amount.

Guessing it doesn't matter as the next Republican President will surely pardon him.

JPhillips · 05-25-2023, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Vegas Vic

We'll see. As I recall, Hillary Clinton had a similar "insurmountable" lead in the polls against Barack Obama in May 2007.

Gallup had Clinton +9 in June 2007. CNN just had Trump up +27.

Swaggs · 05-25-2023, 04:14 PM

Desantis gives me 2016 Scott Walker vibes.

BYU 14 · 05-26-2023, 08:52 AM

These Clowns are just writing each others campaign ads now

Junior goes on a rant that is supposed to be about Desantis, but he misreads his script:

“Trump has the personality of a mortician, and the energy that makes Jeb Bush look an Olympian.” pic.twitter.com/iOdUbTQLyS
— Ron Filipkowski (@RonFilipkowski) May 25, 2023

flere-imsaho · 05-26-2023, 09:34 AM

Maybe cut back on the drugs a bit, junior.

albionmoonlight · 05-26-2023, 09:37 AM

Morbid thought--what would the Vegas odds be on Whether Don Sr. or Don Jr. dies first?

flere-imsaho · 05-26-2023, 02:54 PM

Senior is 76, but his Dad lived to 93. Junior's ~46. Can he last another 20 years with the amount of drugs he's doing?

Honestly, it's a tougher call than I would have thought.

Lathum · 05-26-2023, 04:50 PM

I hope its a push

View Poll Results: If Trump Loses In November, What Do You Think Happens Next
Normal transition of power. He meets with Biden, stays until 1/20, comes to inauguration, etc.	5	5.56%
He doesn't fight the result, but resigns prior to the inauguration.	2	2.22%
He fights the result but gives up shortly before the inauguration (let's define "shortly" as "some time after the EC meets on 12/14")	30	33.33%
He fights the result all the way to January 20th. Has to be physically removed.	12	13.33%
He fights the result for a short time, but gives up and resigns before the inauguration	6	6.67%
He fights the result for a short time, but gives up an then we have a normal transition as per option 1.	30	33.33%
Other. (You know you gotta specify this one.)	5	5.56%
Voters: 90. You may not vote on this poll

05-23-2023, 08:42 PM	#8157
Ksyrup This guy has posted so much, his fingers are about to fall off. Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: In Absentia	It's hard to take the politics and crimes out of it now, but I couldn't stand him years ago. But then, he was just an entitled smarmy POS that didn't matter to me. It still amazes me that anyone can listen to him and think he has some charm or intelligence. __________________ M's pitcher Miguel Batista: "Now, I feel like I've had everything. I've talked pitching with Sandy Koufax, had Kenny G play for me. Maybe if I could have an interview with God, then I'd be served. I'd be complete." Last edited by Ksyrup : 05-23-2023 at 08:43 PM.

05-23-2023, 08:53 PM	#8158
Thomkal Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Surfside Beach,SC USA	Trump and/or his lawyers write a letter to Merrick Garland about how unfairly the Special Counsel is treating him and wants to meet with him to discuss it: https://twitter.com/RonFilipkowski/s...78305171652608 (and probably try to blackmail/bribe him into dropping the case) __________________ Coastal Carolina Baseball-2016 National Champion! 10/17/20-Coastal Football ranked in Top 25 for first time! Last edited by Thomkal : 05-23-2023 at 09:23 PM.

05-23-2023, 09:32 PM	#8161
Ksyrup This guy has posted so much, his fingers are about to fall off. Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: In Absentia	It's election interference to prosecute criminals who happen to be running for office. Who knew? __________________ M's pitcher Miguel Batista: "Now, I feel like I've had everything. I've talked pitching with Sandy Koufax, had Kenny G play for me. Maybe if I could have an interview with God, then I'd be served. I'd be complete."

05-23-2023, 10:11 PM	#8164
Thomkal Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Surfside Beach,SC USA	Garland has replied to the letter, turning down the offer to meet because the Special Counsel is running the investigation __________________ Coastal Carolina Baseball-2016 National Champion! 10/17/20-Coastal Football ranked in Top 25 for first time!

05-23-2023, 05:08 PM	#8151
bronconick College Starter Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Kalamazoo, MI	Musk is South African, so no.

05-23-2023, 08:16 PM	#8155
flere-imsaho Coordinator Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Chicagoland	Negative charisma to those who don't like him, absolutely positive charisma to those who do. No one on the fence.

05-23-2023, 08:36 PM	#8156
RainMaker General Manager Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Chicago, IL	Yeah, I know people don't like Trump but it's hard to say he doesn't have charisma. Especially when graded against other politicians.

05-23-2023, 09:10 PM	#8159
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	They actually said in the memo he is being treated unfairly. It is unreal.

05-23-2023, 09:16 PM	#8160
CrimsonFox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2009	But...But....If I can't say negative thin gs about everyone, then I can't campaign...

05-24-2023, 03:52 AM	#8166
GrantDawg World Champion Mis-speller Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Covington, Ga.	He was by far the worst part or the show. His decisions were completely arbitrary and often contradictory. He would fire someone for something one week and then reward someone for doing the same thing the next. He would pull his advisors off the show if they started getting too much press attention until he finally just got rid of them all together to use his children. He constantly showed how petty and narcissistic he is. Sent from my SM-S916U using Tapatalk

05-24-2023, 07:17 AM	#8170
CrimsonFox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2009	that's a threat if I've ever seen one and you know the lawyer was taking dictation Last edited by CrimsonFox : 05-24-2023 at 07:18 AM.

05-24-2023, 02:42 PM	#8177
NobodyHere Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2013	But aren't the children of US citizens automatically natural born citizens? __________________ "I am God's prophet, and I need an attorney"

05-24-2023, 02:52 PM	#8178
Atocep Coordinator Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Puyallup, WA	Of all the corrupt pieces of shit out there, Ken Paxton may be the most corrupt. The fact that his own party had to investigate him and has now found he likely committed multiple misdemeanors and felonies is crazy. This comes as he tries to use state funds to pay a $3 million settlement as a result of his corruption. https://apnews.com/article/texas-ken...%20retaliation. Last edited by Atocep : 05-24-2023 at 02:53 PM.

05-24-2023, 03:01 PM	#8179
Ksyrup This guy has posted so much, his fingers are about to fall off. Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: In Absentia	But he got my parents $28 from TurboTax! __________________ M's pitcher Miguel Batista: "Now, I feel like I've had everything. I've talked pitching with Sandy Koufax, had Kenny G play for me. Maybe if I could have an interview with God, then I'd be served. I'd be complete."

05-24-2023, 03:13 PM	#8181
Ksyrup This guy has posted so much, his fingers are about to fall off. Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: In Absentia	I'm sure this will help win over suburban moms. Candace Owens: “Do not shop at Target, or else you're gay and you're a pervert” pic.twitter.com/TdCLh9msKo — Jason S. Campbell (@JasonSCampbell) May 24, 2023 __________________ M's pitcher Miguel Batista: "Now, I feel like I've had everything. I've talked pitching with Sandy Koufax, had Kenny G play for me. Maybe if I could have an interview with God, then I'd be served. I'd be complete."

05-24-2023, 07:25 PM	#8183
GrantDawg World Champion Mis-speller Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Covington, Ga.	Oh, boy... https://twitter.com/RightWingWatch/s...-1234741082%2F

05-24-2023, 07:57 PM	#8185
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	I went to Target today but didn't buy anything. Does that make me bi curious?

05-24-2023, 08:08 PM	#8186
RainMaker General Manager Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Chicago, IL	I will be shocked if Desantis makes it to Super Tuesday.

05-24-2023, 08:09 PM	#8187
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	yeah, Trumps team is brilliant with this sort of stuff. I wonder if this makes Younkin jump in.

05-25-2023, 12:13 PM	#8190
NobodyHere Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2013	I wonder how Trump's upcoming criminal trial will shakes things up. Right now it's tentatively scheduled for Mar 24, 2024, which is a couple weeks after Super Tuesday. Imagine if Trump wraps up the nomination by then and is convicted. DeSantis has to put that image into voter's heads if he wants to win. I'd like to think even most Republicans wouldn't want a convicted felon on top of the ticket going into the general election. I know you'll have your core Trumpers galvanized by how "unfair" the process was. But surely there are enough Republicans know that that won't play well to your typical fence-sitting voter. __________________ "I am God's prophet, and I need an attorney" Last edited by NobodyHere : 05-25-2023 at 12:16 PM.

05-25-2023, 12:27 PM	#8192
Thomkal Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Surfside Beach,SC USA	Oath Keeper leader Stewart Rhodes gets 18 years. Less than I would have liked but the defense pleading for "time served" was just beyond ridiculous. So now Republicans please let us know when you have the whistleblowers, evidence and phone calls that shows Antifa/Black Lives Matter/Pelosi/Biden etc were behind it all. We're waiting.. __________________ Coastal Carolina Baseball-2016 National Champion! 10/17/20-Coastal Football ranked in Top 25 for first time!

05-25-2023, 01:41 PM	#8193
RainMaker General Manager Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Chicago, IL	Yeah, the defense team even remarked at how lenient they thought the sentence was. 18 years is a long time but well under the recommended amount. Guessing it doesn't matter as the next Republican President will surely pardon him.

05-25-2023, 04:14 PM	#8195
Swaggs Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	Desantis gives me 2016 Scott Walker vibes. __________________ DOWN WITH HATTRICK!!! The RWBL Are you reading In The Bleachers?

05-26-2023, 08:52 AM	#8196
BYU 14 Coordinator Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The scorched Desert	These Clowns are just writing each others campaign ads now Junior goes on a rant that is supposed to be about Desantis, but he misreads his script: “Trump has the personality of a mortician, and the energy that makes Jeb Bush look an Olympian.” pic.twitter.com/iOdUbTQLyS — Ron Filipkowski (@RonFilipkowski) May 25, 2023

05-26-2023, 09:34 AM	#8197
flere-imsaho Coordinator Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Chicagoland	Maybe cut back on the drugs a bit, junior.

05-26-2023, 09:37 AM	#8198
albionmoonlight Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: North Carolina	Morbid thought--what would the Vegas odds be on Whether Don Sr. or Don Jr. dies first?

05-26-2023, 02:54 PM	#8199
flere-imsaho Coordinator Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Chicagoland	Senior is 76, but his Dad lived to 93. Junior's ~46. Can he last another 20 years with the amount of drugs he's doing? Honestly, it's a tougher call than I would have thought.

05-26-2023, 04:50 PM	#8200
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	I hope its a push

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