Alright boyz, here we go!!! The NHL EHM 2005 Discussion

[Pumpy Tudors]

I'll jump back into my Devils career in a couple of hours. I can't wait!

[Karim]

Is there a screen that shows past drafts by round for all teams?

[sovereignstar]

Go to the one of the draft screens and use the arrow keys in the top right. You can go back quite a ways.

[JeffR]

Originally Posted by Karim

Is there a screen that shows past drafts by round for all teams?

If you want to see it one team at a time, go to the team screen and then Transactions - View - NHL Entry Draft. You can go back through the years and it'll list every draft pick for that team, by year, that's still around in the database as a player or staff member (so it'll go back into the early 60's for some of the Original 6 teams whose old draftees are a scout or coach somewhere.)

[Karim]

Originally Posted by sovereignstar

Go to the one of the draft screens and use the arrow keys in the top right. You can go back quite a ways.

This is for individual teams, correct? I've looked at those but is there anything like:

http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/draft/nhl1997e.html

I thought Riz mentioned that there was a draft 'recap' without the NHL totals. I'd like to see how my first rounder is doing against other first rounders or to see which guy I should have taken with my pick.

[Honolulu_Blue]

Originally Posted by Karim

This is for individual teams, correct? I've looked at those but is there anything like:

http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/draft/nhl1997e.html

The screen looks a lot like that, though I don't think (I could be wrong) that it gives you NHL totals for points and such. It does give you a list of all players drafted (in the order they were drafted and who drafted them), but I am not sure what additional information the list provides.

[NoSkillz]

Originally Posted by Karim

This is for individual teams, correct? I've looked at those but is there anything like:

http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/draft/nhl1997e.html

I thought Riz mentioned that there was a draft 'recap' without the NHL totals. I'd like to see how my first rounder is doing against other first rounders or to see which guy I should have taken with my pick.

There are two different versions within the game. You can see your team's selections on a year-by-year basis.

You can also see the overall draft on a year-by-year basis, with all the teams. Best way to see that screen is to go to one of your player's information tabs, click on the section where it shows the draft year he was picked in. It will show that entire draft year, which can be sorted in many different ways (by name, by overall selection).

Unfortunately, it doesn't include career NHL stats on that screen (maybe something Riz can add in the future...shouldn't be that hard to do)

[sachmo71]

Does the new patch overwrite the "unfake" package?

[Simms]

Yes, but the most recent unfake download had a ton of problems anyway (mostly with affiliations and the like). They're saying they'll be releasing an update shortly.

[HomerJSimpson]

Alright, I downloaded this to give it a try and I have two questions (well, really a multitude of questions that can probably be solved with answers to both of these questions).

1) Is there a walk-through that might steer me on what I should be doing (like Marc's excellent quide to FM)?

2) If I buy the online version, is SI going to release the NA patch for it?

[HomerJSimpson]

dola: Maybe as a third, what utlities/downloads should I look for?

[Bee]

Originally Posted by HomerJSimpson

Alright, I downloaded this to give it a try and I have two questions (well, really a multitude of questions that can probably be solved with answers to both of these questions).

1) Is there a walk-through that might steer me on what I should be doing (like Marc's excellent quide to FM)?

2) If I buy the online version, is SI going to release the NA patch for it?

1) No, but there are several sites that have good info on them that are linked earlier in this thread.

2) Yes

[HomerJSimpson]

Originally Posted by Bee

1) No, but there are several sites that have good info on them that are linked earlier in this thread.

2) Yes

Where exactly in this thread (it is only 18 pages long )?

[sovereignstar]

I've never really looked through this thing, but maybe it'll help.

http://ehm.sortitoutsi.net/index.php...le&fileid=4287

[HomerJSimpson]

Originally Posted by sovereignstar

I've never really looked through this thing, but maybe it'll help.

http://ehm.sortitoutsi.net/index.php...le&fileid=4287

Thanks.

[jbmagic]

Originally Posted by sachmo71

Does the new patch overwrite the "unfake" package?

yes if you start a new game.


but no for saved dynasty you have

[Logan]

Where can utilities and add-ons be found? Long thread...thanks

[rexallllsc]

Originally Posted by jbmagic

yes if you start a new game.


but no for saved dynasty you have

What if you put the unfaking on top of the patch? Then what?

[scooter]

Originally Posted by Logan

Where can utilities and add-ons be found? Long thread...thanks

For EHM 2005, try:

http://ehm.sortitoutsi.net/index.php...l&game=ehm2005

[rexallllsc]

BTW, for those who were continually getting the crap kicked out of you despite having a good roster (like me), has this patch helped AT ALL?

[jbmagic]

Originally Posted by rexallllsc

What if you put the unfaking on top of the patch? Then what?

with new patch i recommend starting over. so you can see the full affect of it. Its pretty solid so far.

i would wait for unfake new version before you apply that over EHM latest version

[Logan]

Yeah, so I've had the game for like 2 hours and already seeing crashes.

How does one return the digital download version for a refund?

[sovereignstar]

Originally Posted by Logan

Yeah, so I've had the game for like 2 hours and already seeing crashes.

How does one return the digital download version for a refund?

LOL

Why would you even pay before playing the try and buy?

[JeffR]

Originally Posted by Logan

Yeah, so I've had the game for like 2 hours and already seeing crashes.

How does one return the digital download version for a refund?

Refund information here.

But multiple crashes in the first two hours of using the game is very odd. Is it version 2.0.2? (I assume the download was update with the new version, but I'm not sure.) When are the crashes happening?

[sovereignstar]

Originally Posted by JeffR

When are the crashes happening?

Doesn't sound like he's interested in helping.

Edit: I bet you're using the unfaking DB.

[DaddyTorgo]

Originally Posted by rexallllsc

BTW, for those who were continually getting the crap kicked out of you despite having a good roster (like me), has this patch helped AT ALL?

i second this question!! anyone?

[condors]

Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

i second this question!! anyone?

there are a few things i did that helped me

1-get rid of players over 30. Older players may look great but don't get the results any longer. If a guy is on the top 2 lines and isn't getting 20 goals then its time to look for another option. Alot of guys can be dealt for a 2nd round pick(and 2nd round picks usually are solid guys).

2-get as many two way players as possible i normally do a search for at least a 14 on acceraltion speed checking hitting pokechecking these are your penalty killers and 3rd and 4th lines, don't be afraid to match lines either.

3-don't use the same players for penalty killing and powerplay.

4-if your not i recommand rotating your training schedule so players work on everything at some point in the year.

If you look at my Flyers dynasty i have a bunch of good, very good reputation players and went to the cup finals. Only Gagne and Pitakanen are superb players on my team.(when i do a trade they are usally the only 5 star guys i have a few 3 star guys that play well for me game in and game out).

If you have any specfic questions just let me know and i will help as much as i can.

[HomerJSimpson]

Originally Posted by sovereignstar

I've never really looked through this thing, but maybe it'll help.

http://ehm.sortitoutsi.net/index.php...le&fileid=4287

Big help, Sov. Thanks. So Condors, are you saying not to be tempted by the older FA available at the begining of the season? I'm trying this with the Thrashers, and have so few players that I always make runs at the older stars that are available early. Should I not? Who should I look for early?

[klayman]

I think the key is defence and the goaltender. In the two dynasties I have played, I never really had a stacked lineup, but some fairly solid players up front. I didn't start winning on a regular basis until I got 5-6 solid d-men however.

[jbmagic]

the key also is never let your Head coach handle practice.

because they dont handle everythig on the practice screen.

[HomerJSimpson]

Originally Posted by jbmagic

the key also is never let your Head coach handle practice.

because they dont handle everythig on the practice screen.

The walkthrough said he always lets the coach handle pratice, but he sets the coaching assignments because the head coach doesn't usually do that. Is that true?

[sovereignstar]

Originally Posted by jbmagic

the key also is never let your Head coach handle practice.

because they dont handle everythig on the practice screen.

It would save you a bunch of time if you just made those two lines your signature.

[rexallllsc]

I'll start again tonight. So what's the practice thing about the 3 duties per coach? Explain it to me like I'm really dumb. Thanks

[JeffR]

Originally Posted by rexallllsc

I'll start again tonight. So what's the practice thing about the 3 duties per coach? Explain it to me like I'm really dumb. Thanks

On the practice screen, it's the number of categories you've got assigned to each coach in the bottom-left corner - e.g., the first guy might have Conditioning, Tactics, Offensive Skills, and Defensive Skills assigned to him (I actually use 4 instead of 3). By default, each coach is set to work on all of them, but the theory is that stretches out them out too much and won't get optimal results (and from what I've seen of the way practice time management works in the game, it's a good theory.) Reducing their workload a bit, especially when it's focused on the things they coach best, should help players improve faster.

[JeffR]

Originally Posted by condors

1-get rid of players over 30. Older players may look great but don't get the results any longer. If a guy is on the top 2 lines and isn't getting 20 goals then its time to look for another option. Alot of guys can be dealt for a 2nd round pick(and 2nd round picks usually are solid guys).

You can be a little more selective about the over-30 guys. If he still has a good stamina rating, he's probably worth keeping. And even with guys whose stamina and physical ratings have started to slide can be good to have around for their leadership value (assuming their influence and hidden mental ratings are solid), if you manage their icetime properly.

[jbmagic]

Originally Posted by JeffR

On the practice screen, it's the number of categories you've got assigned to each coach in the bottom-left corner - e.g., the first guy might have Conditioning, Tactics, Offensive Skills, and Defensive Skills assigned to him (I actually use 4 instead of 3). By default, each coach is set to work on all of them, but the theory is that stretches out them out too much and won't get optimal results (and from what I've seen of the way practice time management works in the game, it's a good theory.) Reducing their workload a bit, especially when it's focused on the things they coach best, should help players improve faster.

why on default it spread out to all? i think it should be set to 3 or 4 on default

i wish if you assign head coach to practice they handle all of the practice screen. as of now they dont.

[jbmagic]

Originally Posted by HomerJSimpson

The walkthrough said he always lets the coach handle pratice, but he sets the coaching assignments because the head coach doesn't usually do that. Is that true?

yes

and also coach dont handle the % for powerplay, powerkill, general on the practice screen.

[Honolulu_Blue]

Originally Posted by condors

there are a few things i did that helped me

1-get rid of players over 30. Older players may look great but don't get the results any longer. If a guy is on the top 2 lines and isn't getting 20 goals then its time to look for another option. Alot of guys can be dealt for a 2nd round pick(and 2nd round picks usually are solid guys).

This is what we call the "Logan's Run" management system.

I have had quite a few 30+ year old guys play pivitol roles for the Caps, uncluding Skau Koivu, Jeff O'Neil, and Derek Morris. Koivu was a 3rd/4th line center and first unit PK. O'Neill was a first/second line center and had power-play time. Morris did everything at the ripe old age of 33. These guys are all extraordinary players, so it may be different for "regular" guys. I wouldn't know. Most of my guys in my Caps dynasty (4 straight Stanley Cups!) are still under 30. Also, I am not sure the 30+ rule would apply to goalies either.

[jbmagic]

Honolulu_Blue

how does 5 stanley cup in row look for you.

that amazing, you make the game seem easy you have a nice group of young players.

cant wait to see how you do with the salary cap? probably more challenging

[condors]

Originally Posted by HomerJSimpson

Big help, Sov. Thanks. So Condors, are you saying not to be tempted by the older FA available at the begining of the season? I'm trying this with the Thrashers, and have so few players that I always make runs at the older stars that are available early. Should I not? Who should I look for early?

I stay away from the over 30 crowd but Kariya, Allison, Demitra, Deadmarsh, Holden, and Green can bolster your forwards Evgeny Korolv, Mcallister, andy delmore, daron quint can help you in the defense and Jean Sebstion Aubin is a solid keeper. Don't be afraid to sign guys and trade them next season. Also keep a look in the wavier draft for guys that can help you out(personal favorite tactic of mine). Also i have signed Jean-Luc Grand-Pierre who can play right wing or right defense and Maxim Kuznetso (sp) Korolv can be very good and is only 26 years old.

Also i don't like giving away draft picks in the first 3 rounds(unless i know the guy is young and ready to step right in). The 2005 draft you can pick up alot of guys who can contribute the talent pool seems pretty deep don't ignore some of the older players(although i don't draft guys over 26).

I play the Flyers and usually my third line before dealing would be Brashear, Primeau and Kappanen and turn on line matching accourding to the team report Primeau and Kappanen are my best center and right winger but they are also my best defensive forwards. I bascially set my third line first and then fill in the rest. (i also would try to move all 3 of the guys i mentioned for younger versions)

[Honolulu_Blue]

Originally Posted by jbmagic

Honolulu_Blue

how does 5 stanley cup in row look for you.

that amazing, you make the game seem easy you have a nice group of young players.

cant wait to see how you do with the salary cap? probably more challenging

Just started the Quest For Five. I would have to say the Caps are still the favorites to win it. I finally had to give up one of my "core" guys which hurt. Zetterberg was headed to UFA land at the end of the season, so I shipped him to LA for 2 2nd rounders. I siged UFA Jon Cheechoo and at a reduced price because he was just coming off a long injury. So far, so good. I still have most of my "core" guys: Ovechkin, Weiss, Norton, Kessell, Jack Johnson, Phanuef, Eminger, and Lundqvist in goal. Pospisil is becoming a key cog and Sota and Blunden are coming into their own. We're #2 in the East after a month or two of play.

Can't really explain the success I've had. I don't tinker much with tactics. The team sort of runs itself. I just keep a look out for the best coaches and scouts and always try to have a good core of younger guys. I think Lundqvist was a huge, huge part of things. He's amazing. I don't feel confident with anyone else in goal.

As for the cap, I think it will make it much harder. Harder to build a team and much, much harder to trade (due to cap implications for both sides). I will likely restart (which I imagine you have to) once the Super Patch comes out. I'll take the Wings as it was always meant to be.

[Karim]

Originally Posted by NoSkillz

You can also see the overall draft on a year-by-year basis, with all the teams. Best way to see that screen is to go to one of your player's information tabs, click on the section where it shows the draft year he was picked in. It will show that entire draft year, which can be sorted in many different ways (by name, by overall selection).

Unfortunately, it doesn't include career NHL stats on that screen (maybe something Riz can add in the future...shouldn't be that hard to do)

They are there! In the drop-down menu in the upper left, you can look at NHL career totals for the entire draft class.

Awesome feature, just a little obscure.

[NoSkillz]

Originally Posted by Karim

They are there! In the drop-down menu in the upper left, you can look at NHL career totals for the entire draft class.

Awesome feature, just a little obscure.

Hell, I work on the game and I didn't know that! Sweet!

[Simms]

The new, post-2.02 unfaking patch is out:

the new version is out!
http://www.manager4life.com/m4l/dloa...le&file_id=365

Changelist

Unfakes:
- All minor leagues in north america, both teams and players
- All russian and finnish leagues
- All NHL prospects faked in the original db (eg college or swiss players)
- Top NCAA players
- Top european players from the "faked" nations
and:
- Improves the realism in the minor leagues such echl and/or uhl with a bit of new teams or new divisions alignement
- Contains some good fixes in the db, like tons of wrong handedness and training rating for NHL/AHL teams
- Revamps Austria and Slovenian leagues thanks to some Uros' work in tuning player ratings

They scaled back the AHL/ECHL affiliation changes in this one, so no more Marlies. But I figure that and others will be included with the game/data update for the NA release. I figure I can wait until then.

[jbmagic]

Riz

Is start date to be before buyouts and draft or the start date to be after all the rosters are sorted when the NA patch comes out?

[sovereignstar]

Originally Posted by Simms

The new, post-2.02 unfaking patch is out:


They scaled back the AHL/ECHL affiliation changes in this one, so no more Marlies. But I figure that and others will be included with the game/data update for the NA release. I figure I can wait until then.

Sweet! I wonder what part of the game the new unfaking version will fuck up now!!

[NoSkillz]

Originally Posted by jbmagic

Riz

Is start date to be before buyouts and draft or the start date to be after all the rosters are sorted when the NA patch comes out?

The N.A. patch will include all transactions (buyouts, Entry Draft, free agent signings, etc) up until the end of August or thereabouts.

[JeffR]

Originally Posted by jbmagic

Riz

Is start date to be before buyouts and draft or the start date to be after all the rosters are sorted when the NA patch comes out?

After.

[Pumpy Tudors]

I'm still in my second season with the Devils (I had put the game on hold until the 2.0.2 patch, so I'm just getting back into it). I'm about 3/4 of the way through the season, and I have decided to look at the stats of all the guys I drafted this year. I realize that none of my guys are playing in the NHL, but I am amazed that the best stats have come from my 9th round draft pick. Center Jason Walters, the 253rd player selected in the 2005 draft, has put up 82 points in 63 games for the London Knights. The Knights are dominating the OHL, and he's only third on his team in points, but he's still having a great season. He'll definitely come to camp with my Devils next season, and I think he'll be a great player for me in 2007 after spending a year in Albany.

Unfortunately, my second-round pick, goalie Aleksandr Tryanichev, is having very little success over in Russia. He's playing backup to Anaheim's second-round pick (the Ducks picked 9 spots before I did), and his team is just terrible. His GAA is 2.70 and his save percentage is 0.911. Compared to the rest of the Russian Elite League, those numbers stink. His record is only 3-7. Since I know that Martin Brodeur isn't going anywhere anytime soon, I don't need to rush this kid, but he's not getting any playing time right now. I have a feeling that Tryanichev will never find his way into a Devils uniform, even though I've only held his rights for a few months. I feel bad for him.

[sovereignstar]

Lamest. Question. Ever, but how do you pronounce ' Barrie '? As in Barrie Colts of the OHL. Is it Bar-ree or Bear-ree?