WW XCV: Land of the Role Reveals GAME OVER - Page 34

dubb93 · 06-01-2009, 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Danny

That's what my gut says, but It's certainly not 100%. The whole tie break thing just seems way off to me. It's tough to believe Dubb as a villager would not prove himself in that situation. And I heard his reasoning, but there was no deadline happenings that made Racer any more less likely to be a wolf than Lerriuqs.

A wolf wouldn't have forced me into a tie break so I could prove my scans legit. See the move Hoops tried to make at the deadline. I believe the only reason he tried to make that move was to throw doubt on my scans.

dubb93 · 06-01-2009, 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Danny

I had a hand in that, but I'm pretty sure 6 or 7 other people helped too. Of course, I think PurdueBrad liked that result. And you've also thought I was a wolf quite often when we were both villagers too

I have never once said I don't believe you could be bluffing the maniac role. I'm still considering the fact you could be the cunning.

Racer · 06-01-2009, 07:58 PM

Alright, something popped into my head (which doesn’t have a ton to do with tonight’s vote).

If you believe that Dubbs and I cannot be both wolves because I would not jeopardize Dubb’s cover by forcing a tie in the last vote,

Then you can make the following conclusion: Lathum is either the fake seer or a wolf.

Because if Lathum is good, then Dubbs has to be bad (since the believe seers scans are 100%).

Lathum · 06-01-2009, 08:02 PM

I can't believe I am still in the lead, I thought you guys were seeing some sense with Racer/ Dubb but I guess not.

Trust me, lynching me it's game over.

I am gonna try and get more traction on racer, hell I may even let it be a tie to test Dubbs honesty about being duke if I have to, but I really think we shold go Racer/ Dubb

Racer · 06-01-2009, 08:06 PM

What I am baffled by is Lathum's refusal to switch his vote to Dubb. It doesn't make sense from a villager or wolf perspective (even if they are both wolves).

Lathum · 06-01-2009, 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Racer

What I am baffled by is Lathum's refusal to switch his vote to Dubb. It doesn't make sense from a villager or wolf perspective (even if they are both wolves).

I've been refusing it to this pint but may not have a choice. If I do switch it will be late and to save my own ass, until then I still think we need to lynch Racer.

Danny · 06-01-2009, 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Racer

Alright, something popped into my head (which doesn’t have a ton to do with tonight’s vote).

If you believe that Dubbs and I cannot be both wolves because I would not jeopardize Dubb’s cover by forcing a tie in the last vote,

I don't see it that way, if you did not tie up the vote and turned up wolf, we would be suspicious of Dubb after that and wondering why on earth you would not tie up the vote and at least give yourself a chance for a last minute swtich, etc...

Danny · 06-01-2009, 08:09 PM

If we lynch Telle, I bet we get a wolf

Lathum · 06-01-2009, 08:10 PM

3 - Racer - Lathum (1306), Schmidty (1535), Hoops (1589)
2- dubb - Danny (1413), USFL (1584)
5 - Lathum - dubb (1285), Tyrith (1293), saldana (1319), PurdueBrad (1633), Racer (1642)

Racer · 06-01-2009, 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Danny

I don't see it that way, if you did not tie up the vote and turned up wolf, we would be suspicious of Dubb after that and wondering why on earth you would not tie up the vote and at least give yourself a chance for a last minute swtich, etc...

If we were both wolves, I think I would have handled the vote differently (i.e. not waiting until 2 minutes before the deadline to tie the vote).

Danny · 06-01-2009, 08:12 PM

Probably true, I'm just saying i wouldn't rule it out.

Danny · 06-01-2009, 08:12 PM

Schmidty is not going to be back before deadline probably, right?

Lathum · 06-01-2009, 08:14 PM

Racer, if I switch to Dubb at some point do you go with me?

Danny · 06-01-2009, 08:15 PM

Make sure to get believe votes in guys, so far Racer, Hoops and USFL can all be believed for vanilla wolf.

PurdueBrad · 06-01-2009, 08:15 PM

I don't know Danny but if we can get Hoops and Lathum to go Dubb and have Telle actually vote, we can organize a tie I think.

Danny · 06-01-2009, 08:15 PM

Telle's a wolf though, I don't trust her to keep the tie.

PurdueBrad · 06-01-2009, 08:16 PM

believe USFL for vanilla wolf (already in on Racer)

PurdueBrad · 06-01-2009, 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Danny

Telle's a wolf though, I don't trust her to keep the tie.

Neither do I but I am willing to shift my vote all over the place in a time race with her.

Racer · 06-01-2009, 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Lathum

Racer, if I switch to Dubb at some point do you go with me?

I'm voting for whoever PB votes for.

If you don't believe that I'm a villager, vote for me as tough villager or vanilla wolf so I can be night killed by Danny.

PurdueBrad · 06-01-2009, 08:19 PM

Danny, I think I can do this, but we'll see.

Danny · 06-01-2009, 08:20 PM

We really need Schmidty here.

PurdueBrad · 06-01-2009, 08:20 PM

Dubb, if you are good and really are the duke, get your PM ready because I think you'll have to use it.

PurdueBrad · 06-01-2009, 08:21 PM

The advantage I having going right now is that I have Racer moving with me (maybe, maybe not depending on timing) which makes it very hard for the wolves to keep us from engineering, just as they think it'll be hard for us to engineer.

PurdueBrad · 06-01-2009, 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Lathum

3 - Racer - Lathum (1306), Schmidty (1535), Hoops (1589)
2- dubb - Danny (1413), USFL (1584)
5 - Lathum - dubb (1285), Tyrith (1293), saldana (1319), PurdueBrad (1633), Racer (1642)

Just keeping it closer at hand.

Tyrith · 06-01-2009, 08:23 PM

BELIEVE RACER AS VANILLA WOLF

Racer · 06-01-2009, 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by hoopsguy

So be it - if we have the numbers to go after Dubb then lets do this.

UNVOTE LATHUM
VOTE DUBB

Hoops, I see you're on. You know you were on me before not Lathum so I'm pretty sure this is an invalid change.

hoopsguy · 06-01-2009, 08:34 PM

Thanks, Racer. Still catching up in the thread. But just to rectify what my intent was on the last vote.

UNVOTE ALL
VOTE DUBB

PurdueBrad · 06-01-2009, 08:36 PM

2 - Racer - Lathum (1306), Schmidty (1535)
3- dubb - Danny (1413), USFL (1584), Hoops (1677)
5 - Lathum - dubb (1285), Tyrith (1293), saldana (1319), PurdueBrad (1633), Racer (1642)

hoopsguy · 06-01-2009, 08:37 PM

Votes as of Post #1677:

2 - Racer - Lathum (1306), Schmidty (1535)
3 - dubb - Danny (1413), USFL (1584), Hoops (1622)
5 - Lathum - dubb (1285), Tyrith (1293), saldana (1319), PB (1633), Racer (1642)

If Telle does not have a vote up by 15 minutes to deadline I'm putting mine on her and not switching.

PurdueBrad · 06-01-2009, 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by hoopsguy

If Telle does not have a vote up by 15 minutes to deadline I'm putting mine on her and not switching.

Great minds think alike.

Telle · 06-01-2009, 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by hoopsguy

If Telle does not have a vote up by 15 minutes to deadline I'm putting mine on her and not switching.

Why?

hoopsguy · 06-01-2009, 08:39 PM

Because I'm 100% convinced that your intent will be to snipe at the end for the wolf team.

hoopsguy · 06-01-2009, 08:40 PM

And because you would not declare a role allowing Danny to make a night call, just in case I needed another reason.

I can keep coming up with more reasons to vote for you, but that is probably enough.

Racer · 06-01-2009, 08:41 PM

PurdueBrad,

Just to make sure we're on the same page (as well all villagers). The current plan is to have a tie between Lathum and Dubb with the last vote being cast on dubb?

Telle · 06-01-2009, 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by hoopsguy

And because you would not declare a role allowing Danny to make a night call, just in case I needed another reason.

Neither did Schmidty.

PurdueBrad · 06-01-2009, 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Racer

PurdueBrad,

Just to make sure we're on the same page (as well all villagers). The current plan is to have a tie between Lathum and Dubb with the last vote being cast on dubb?

That would definitely be my hope although the Telle dynamic right now is one that I'm intrigued by.

hoopsguy · 06-01-2009, 08:42 PM

I'm not happy about that either, but Schmidty is not the one holding a vote over our heads right now.

Telle · 06-01-2009, 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by hoopsguy

I'm not happy about that either, but Schmidty is not the one holding a vote over our heads right now.

VOTE HOOPSGUY

Feel better now?

PurdueBrad · 06-01-2009, 08:45 PM

HA! Very nice Telle.

Racer · 06-01-2009, 08:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PurdueBrad

That would definitely be my hope although the Telle dynamic right now is one that I'm intrigued by.

Yeah. I agree Telle's refusal to vote yet seems wolfish.

However, if we go with the other plan, it seems like we'll 100% get a wolf as long as the wolves don't screw with it (which is probably a real possibility).

If Dubb is lieing, then he would be gone.
If Dubb is telling the truth and is the Duke, he obviously would save himself and knock out Lathum.

hoopsguy · 06-01-2009, 08:46 PM

Not so much.

UNVOTE DUBB
VOTE TELLE

Danny · 06-01-2009, 08:46 PM

I'd be alright with us all switching to Telle personally.

hoopsguy · 06-01-2009, 08:46 PM

Votes as of Post #1691:

2 - Racer - Lathum (1306), Schmidty (1535)
2 - dubb - Danny (1413), USFL (1584)
5 - Lathum - dubb (1285), Tyrith (1293), saldana (1319), PB (1633), Racer (1642)
1 - Hoops - Telle (1688)
1 - Telle - Hoops (1691)

Telle · 06-01-2009, 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Danny

I'd be alright with us all switching to Telle personally.

Why am I not surprised?

Danny · 06-01-2009, 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Telle

Why am I not surprised?

Everything you've done today is the play of a wolf, especially you now throwing your vote away or simply putting it off until you want to snipe.

PurdueBrad · 06-01-2009, 08:49 PM

Racer, you willing to stay on Lathum for a minute or two? Curious what a tie now would do to vote movement.

PurdueBrad · 06-01-2009, 08:49 PM

Hoops, you willing to vote dubb with me?

Barkeep49 · 06-01-2009, 08:50 PM

As an FYI:

Hoops as wolf – dubb (1285), tyrith (1297), USFL (1548), racer (1597)
Racer as wolf – USFL (1548), PB (1568), hoops (1571), Danny (1575), Tyrith (1675)
USFL as wolf – Hoops (1571), Danny (1575), PB (1667)

Danny · 06-01-2009, 08:50 PM

Unbelieve USFL for Vanilla Wolf

I'd rather see Racer get this over USFL.

hoopsguy · 06-01-2009, 08:50 PM

PB, if we are not going to get traction on Telle then yes. I think Telle is a sure thing, but I'm not going to leave my vote wasted if no one else is following.

06-01-2009, 07:58 PM	#1653
Racer College Benchwarmer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Fort Wayne, Indiana	Alright, something popped into my head (which doesn’t have a ton to do with tonight’s vote). If you believe that Dubbs and I cannot be both wolves because I would not jeopardize Dubb’s cover by forcing a tie in the last vote, Then you can make the following conclusion: Lathum is either the fake seer or a wolf. Because if Lathum is good, then Dubbs has to be bad (since the believe seers scans are 100%).

06-01-2009, 08:02 PM	#1654
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	I can't believe I am still in the lead, I thought you guys were seeing some sense with Racer/ Dubb but I guess not. Trust me, lynching me it's game over. I am gonna try and get more traction on racer, hell I may even let it be a tie to test Dubbs honesty about being duke if I have to, but I really think we shold go Racer/ Dubb

06-01-2009, 08:06 PM	#1655
Racer College Benchwarmer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Fort Wayne, Indiana	What I am baffled by is Lathum's refusal to switch his vote to Dubb. It doesn't make sense from a villager or wolf perspective (even if they are both wolves).

06-01-2009, 08:09 PM	#1658
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	If we lynch Telle, I bet we get a wolf

06-01-2009, 08:10 PM	#1659
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	3 - Racer - Lathum (1306), Schmidty (1535), Hoops (1589) 2- dubb - Danny (1413), USFL (1584) 5 - Lathum - dubb (1285), Tyrith (1293), saldana (1319), PurdueBrad (1633), Racer (1642)

06-01-2009, 08:12 PM	#1661
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	Probably true, I'm just saying i wouldn't rule it out.

06-01-2009, 08:12 PM	#1662
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	Schmidty is not going to be back before deadline probably, right?

06-01-2009, 08:14 PM	#1663
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	Racer, if I switch to Dubb at some point do you go with me?

06-01-2009, 08:15 PM	#1664
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	Make sure to get believe votes in guys, so far Racer, Hoops and USFL can all be believed for vanilla wolf.

06-01-2009, 08:15 PM	#1666
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	Telle's a wolf though, I don't trust her to keep the tie.

06-01-2009, 08:20 PM	#1671
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	We really need Schmidty here.

06-01-2009, 08:23 PM	#1675
Tyrith College Starter Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Houston, TX	BELIEVE RACER AS VANILLA WOLF

06-01-2009, 08:34 PM	#1677
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	Thanks, Racer. Still catching up in the thread. But just to rectify what my intent was on the last vote. UNVOTE ALL VOTE DUBB

06-01-2009, 08:37 PM	#1679
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	Votes as of Post #1677: 2 - Racer - Lathum (1306), Schmidty (1535) 3 - dubb - Danny (1413), USFL (1584), Hoops (1622) 5 - Lathum - dubb (1285), Tyrith (1293), saldana (1319), PB (1633), Racer (1642) If Telle does not have a vote up by 15 minutes to deadline I'm putting mine on her and not switching.

06-01-2009, 08:39 PM	#1682
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	Because I'm 100% convinced that your intent will be to snipe at the end for the wolf team.

06-01-2009, 08:40 PM	#1683
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	And because you would not declare a role allowing Danny to make a night call, just in case I needed another reason. I can keep coming up with more reasons to vote for you, but that is probably enough.

06-01-2009, 08:41 PM	#1684
Racer College Benchwarmer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Fort Wayne, Indiana	PurdueBrad, Just to make sure we're on the same page (as well all villagers). The current plan is to have a tie between Lathum and Dubb with the last vote being cast on dubb?

06-01-2009, 08:42 PM	#1687
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	I'm not happy about that either, but Schmidty is not the one holding a vote over our heads right now.

06-01-2009, 08:46 PM	#1691
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	Not so much. UNVOTE DUBB VOTE TELLE

06-01-2009, 08:46 PM	#1692
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	I'd be alright with us all switching to Telle personally.

06-01-2009, 08:46 PM	#1693
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	Votes as of Post #1691: 2 - Racer - Lathum (1306), Schmidty (1535) 2 - dubb - Danny (1413), USFL (1584) 5 - Lathum - dubb (1285), Tyrith (1293), saldana (1319), PB (1633), Racer (1642) 1 - Hoops - Telle (1688) 1 - Telle - Hoops (1691)

06-01-2009, 08:50 PM	#1698
Barkeep49 Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Not too far away	As an FYI: Hoops as wolf – dubb (1285), tyrith (1297), USFL (1548), racer (1597) Racer as wolf – USFL (1548), PB (1568), hoops (1571), Danny (1575), Tyrith (1675) USFL as wolf – Hoops (1571), Danny (1575), PB (1667)

06-01-2009, 08:50 PM	#1699
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	Unbelieve USFL for Vanilla Wolf I'd rather see Racer get this over USFL.

06-01-2009, 08:50 PM	#1700
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	PB, if we are not going to get traction on Telle then yes. I think Telle is a sure thing, but I'm not going to leave my vote wasted if no one else is following.

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