WW XCIII - Mine Wars - Battle of Blair Mountain - SYMPATHIZERS WIN!!! - Page 24

The Jackal · 04-30-2009, 02:59 PM

That should be up to date.

Poli · 04-30-2009, 03:01 PM

My vote for Pass was one of 'piss me off'edness. I'm concerned that clap may have been trying to capitalize on that.

Poli · 04-30-2009, 03:02 PM

Off to run/work out. Back in about an hour.

Passacaglia · 04-30-2009, 03:02 PM

UNVOTE POLI
VOTE CLAPHAMSA

I'll move over to clap, since that vote seemed like he was trying to get a run started at a time when there a lot of outcry against me.

Barkeep49 · 04-30-2009, 03:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lathum

Vote Render

for reasons stated earlier.

I know you have. Can you refresh me on them though?

Poli · 04-30-2009, 03:04 PM

I need to rethink apparently.

Just kidding.

Danny · 04-30-2009, 03:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jeheinz72

Good points, no doubt.

I guess what I'm trying to say is that I'm basically a whole lotta "meh" about that topic now. I'm not really keen on either loving or hating Danny and anyone who supported it.

You don't have to love my idea, just love me!

Seriously though, my idea shouldn't really gain any trust

EagleFan · 04-30-2009, 03:09 PM

Wow, way to much to catch up on now. I'll have to look at this after work. It looks like I missed a meltdown or two. FTR I was no where near either one!!!

Some observations at the moment, without reading everything that has happened over these last 4 or 5 pages but skimming.

Poli - I questioned his decision to go on the mission yesterday. Granted he wasn't here when it looked like we were really cutting it close. A little disappointed by the "I quit" routine though, to be honest.

RendeR - I need to disagree with something that you said. You said that we would have needed to be three over on each task yesterday. Actually we only needed a surplus of 3 to at least give us a chance as those in surplus could have switched to the void caused in food distribution when I was rail roaded. Granted it would have taken one of the sympathizers to not work to make us fail but we would have at least had a group to narrow down the possibilities at that point.

PB - Not convinced by your flopping. Your defensiveness looks a lot to me like what I've seen when you are a cornered wolf. Not switching off this vote at least yet.

Lathum - We know that he is always a wolf.

I really don't have enough of a feel for anyone at the moment.

Suspect list:
PB

Almost suspect list:
Lathum
Pass
The Jackal

No clue:
Everyone not on one of the other lists

Leaning towards trust:
Poli - I know what I said but I haven't seen him go off like that when he is a wolf, granted it's a limited sample size that I am basing this off.
BK - Only because he had the same thought process as me on day one.

Trust List:
(empty)

Autumn · 04-30-2009, 03:10 PM

I'm not sure what the best way to use the two extra would be. Or actually I have an idea but I guess it's best not to spell it out this early.

Danny · 04-30-2009, 03:12 PM

Im speed reading to catch up, except I don't know how to speed read.

Barkeep49 · 04-30-2009, 03:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EagleFan

Poli - I know what I said but I haven't seen him go off like that when he is a wolf, granted it's a limited sample size that I am basing this off.

I got burned by this exact thinking once.

Danny · 04-30-2009, 03:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Jackal

Thanks. I'll get in my order when that gets posted.

As for voting, I don't know. I'm tempted to go with RendeR or Poli just by the likelihood that one of us is a wolf, but I don't think that's necessarily true.

Danny's play has struck me a little oddly this game, I'm gonna go back and review what he's been saying.

That's because I am finally a villager and don't have to think about what I say

Danny · 04-30-2009, 03:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jeheinz72

My thought is, advocating his idea sounds great now that we failed the camp.

Had we won the camp, some people probably would be voting for Danny for such a silly idea as to forgo trying for it at all.

I'm not knocking his idea, but really, it looks a lot better now given yesterday's events which were caused by something we had no idea was even possible.

I agree with this. I was really just trying to throw out a possibility and see what others thought.

Autumn · 04-30-2009, 03:17 PM

What flopping are you referring to EagleFan, with regard to PUrdueBrad? I'm trying to narrow down my list of suspects as well. Do you have anything on Pass or Jackal or Lathum other than gut?

PurdueBrad · 04-30-2009, 03:18 PM

I assume he's referring to me flip-flopping from mission to working.

Danny · 04-30-2009, 03:19 PM

Not sure where are list was now, but

Vote Jackal

When I was reading Jeheinz, Jackal and others posts about my plan yesterday and how it shouldn't gain trust I came away with an eery feeling from Jackal. The fact that even in hindsight he thought my plan was not good (when it clearly is good in hindsight) And the fact that he was one of the three to go on the mission is iffy too.

Danny · 04-30-2009, 03:21 PM

I feel pretty comfortable with my vote as I have got a wolfy vibe from Jackal all game and his activity level is almost unheard for him as a villager.

Autumn · 04-30-2009, 03:26 PM

Looking back I think PurdueBrad's flip seems legit. He thought he could do well with an item, resisted for an appropriate amount of time and then changed jobs once it became clear people were suspect. He certainly could be a wolf but I don't think there's any big suspicion there.

Poli, likewise won't get my vote. He jumped on early and then seemed to really be gone all day. I'll believe his reveal for now.

At the moment Render and Jackal are the only vote getters I have suspicion for. I'm not sure why Clap has a vote, I'll have to look back at that. I don't agree with Danny's reason for voting Jackal though, it just doesn't make sense to me.

Autumn · 04-30-2009, 03:27 PM

Ah, okay, now I remember. Pass's guess on Clap seems legit but it's not a lot to go on.

TheNorm · 04-30-2009, 03:28 PM

Sheesh, apparently I need to make more time at work to keep up on things; just trying to catch up to this felt like a marathon session.

Anyway, for work I'll

Work Treasury

...and as for voting I haven't decided yet. There's a lot going on here.

Danny · 04-30-2009, 03:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Autumn

Looking back I think PurdueBrad's flip seems legit. He thought he could do well with an item, resisted for an appropriate amount of time and then changed jobs once it became clear people were suspect. He certainly could be a wolf but I don't think there's any big suspicion there.

Poli, likewise won't get my vote. He jumped on early and then seemed to really be gone all day. I'll believe his reveal for now.

At the moment Render and Jackal are the only vote getters I have suspicion for. I'm not sure why Clap has a vote, I'll have to look back at that. I don't agree with Danny's reason for voting Jackal though, it just doesn't make sense to me.

I didn't explain it real well, but here is case against Jackal at this point.

1. His activity level, he's never been this active as a villager.

2. His going on the mission and his reason for not switching. He said he didn't want to switch in case because the other two weren't on to switch with him. I also thought his reaction after getting an item was a bit off.

3. What he was saying and how he was saying it when Jeheinz and he were talking about my suggestion yesterday for all going on the mission. I agree completely with Jeheinz that it should gain me no trust as it only appears good in hindsight, but Jackal still is sticking to it that it would have been or throwing out some odd logic.

Danny · 04-30-2009, 03:33 PM

For number three, you kind of have to read through it, I just got a very odd feeling when reading his posts through that and really have since yesterday.

Autumn · 04-30-2009, 03:36 PM

I'll read them again, Danny. I guess #3 doesn't jibe with me because I still don't think it was a good idea, even in hindsight. I guess if we have a day that we know we can't possibly win the camp I might be okay with the idea. I don't know.

#2 resonates with me also. I don't know him enough to speak to #1.

Danny · 04-30-2009, 03:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Autumn

I'll read them again, Danny. I guess #3 doesn't jibe with me because I still don't think it was a good idea, even in hindsight. I guess if we have a day that we know we can't possibly win the camp I might be okay with the idea. I don't know.

#2 resonates with me also. I don't know him enough to speak to #1.

Like I said it was more a feeling I took away from his posts then his stance on the issue. Other people were kind of saying the same thing and I didn't get that at all for them.

The Jackal · 04-30-2009, 03:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danny

I didn't explain it real well, but here is case against Jackal at this point.

1. His activity level, he's never been this active as a villager.

2. His going on the mission and his reason for not switching. He said he didn't want to switch in case because the other two weren't on to switch with him. I also thought his reaction after getting an item was a bit off.

3. What he was saying and how he was saying it when Jeheinz and he were talking about my suggestion yesterday for all going on the mission. I agree completely with Jeheinz that it should gain me no trust as it only appears good in hindsight, but Jackal still is sticking to it that it would have been or throwing out some odd logic.

1. I'm sorry for being active? I have time for this game and I feel like being involved. If that's giving you a read, whatever, but I think that's kind of a silly reasoning.

2. What was wrong with my reaction? I didn't lie about it, and I didn't reveal unnecessary information to the wolves. It wasn't a gun, so there shouldn't be anyone who it applies to.

3. Did you read my posts? Especially the one where if we'd done your plan we presumably wouldn't know about the arrest or the division of work reports. You're saying you'd throw out both pieces of that info? I wasn't responding to heinz as a case against you, it was a case against not sending everyone on the mission.

I'm not going to be voting for you yet, but this all seems fishy. I'd hate to think you are a wolf for the third time in a row, so I'm gonna hope you're a misguided villager here.

Autumn · 04-30-2009, 03:38 PM

I guess I'd need post numbers, Danny. I didn't even find where Jackal responded at all to your idea.

The Jackal · 04-30-2009, 03:40 PM

Does this help, autumn?

This is from this morning with heinz, again, this wasn't really aimed to be a complaint at Danny, just I really don't like the idea of ever completely ignoring the camps.

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Jackal

You think we'd be in better shape if we'd completely ignored the camp? Perhaps it doesn't make a difference whether we miss converting them by 1 unit of work or 100, but what if it does?

I still don't really see how that idea would've been great. If that had happened, the wolves would've won the camp by default and we likely wouldn't have learned about the warrant or that division of work gets written up. Those are two kind of crucial pieces of information. We have a good chance to take this town - if we'd gone into this one not knowing about the warrant? Please.

The Jackal · 04-30-2009, 03:40 PM

well, i screwed up the formatting, but those were both posts from earlier

Danny · 04-30-2009, 03:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Autumn

I guess I'd need post numbers, Danny. I didn't even find where Jackal responded at all to your idea.

Unfortunately I have to shower and leave for class soon, and they scattered throughout today. Maybe I was already suspicious of him and reading too much into the posts today. If no one else really sees it, then my #3 reason really isn't valid, but I'm still sticking with my vote for reason #2 and being more suspicious of him than Poli or PB.

Autumn · 04-30-2009, 03:44 PM

Okay, I thought he was talking about something that happened right after he posed the idea. Now that I think about it, I think that was someone else that he was suspicious of yesterday, because they didn't like his idea. Barkeep maybe?

The Jackal · 04-30-2009, 03:45 PM

Man. Even if I had switched from the mission it wouldn't have mattered. There would have to have at least been two of us, and three if a wolf faked (if i recall the numbers correctly). Leaving just two people on the mission when it wasn't certain we were going to lose the camp seemed like a BAD idea to me.

The Jackal · 04-30-2009, 03:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Autumn

Okay, I thought he was talking about something that happened right after he posed the idea. Now that I think about it, I think that was someone else that he was suspicious of yesterday, because they didn't like his idea. Barkeep maybe?

Yeah, Danny was suspicious of BK immediately after his argument.

Autumn · 04-30-2009, 03:46 PM

Right now I'm leaning toward voting Render. Obviously he and I had a lot of exchanges today, and that's part of the reason. He seemed a bit over the top to me, though that could have just been a defensive villager. Looking back though, he's also the one who got a mysterious item and PMed it to an uknown person. That's exactly what I'd do if I was a wolf that got an item as well. Nothing strong, so I'm not settled on the vote. But it adds up to a circumstantial case to me.

The Jackal · 04-30-2009, 03:48 PM

I'm kind of with you there, Autumn. I forgot that RendeR never revealed his item, that really hasn't gotten much attention.

The Jackal · 04-30-2009, 03:49 PM

I don't particularly like clap's vote, but I'm not really getting a read off of him. And if I'm deciding between Poli/RendeR/PB, I'd lean towards RendeR.

Autumn · 04-30-2009, 03:51 PM

Yeah, and certainly it could be a villager play. Keep it quiet from the wolves. But I have to assume the wolves did, or really tried to, send a wolf for an item. Render has given me the worst vibe out of you, him, Purdue and Norm. I certainly am not very good at reading villager/wolf though so I'm going to keep seeing what other people think.

Autumn · 04-30-2009, 03:55 PM

I just looked back at Clap's posts. He's been basically silent since day one, his only posts work orders or fluff. Certainly UTR, but I can't see anything to point a finger at him for.

EagleFan · 04-30-2009, 04:09 PM

By the time I really catch up with this thread the game is going to be over...

I will look at the PB thing a little more closely as it seems that some have been giving him the benefit of the doubt. I just remember the flip but not everything around it.

The Jackal · 04-30-2009, 04:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Autumn

I just looked back at Clap's posts. He's been basically silent since day one, his only posts work orders or fluff. Certainly UTR, but I can't see anything to point a finger at him for.

He's been UTR a lot lately, really he usually is, but especially in games with rules that he has to understand.

Problem with that is, it'd be very easy for him to hide as a wolf by playing the same way. Having played with him many times, I can't say I have a vibe either way at this point.

Autumn · 04-30-2009, 04:11 PM

triple dola

I'm going to dinner, and should be back before deadline. But I'll be putting the kids to bed, so you never know. I'm going to put down a placeholder vote for now.

VOTE RENDER

Autumn · 04-30-2009, 04:11 PM

Stupid Internets.

The Jackal · 04-30-2009, 04:12 PM

render 2 (lathum 1134, autumn 1190)
PB 1 (EF 914)
Autumn 1 (heinz 1063)
Pass 1 (clap 1116)
clap 1 (Pass 1154)
Jackal 1 (Danny 1172)

EagleFan · 04-30-2009, 04:13 PM

I guess triple dola has a different meaning during the fall...

Danny · 04-30-2009, 04:13 PM

five dola food long!

Danny · 04-30-2009, 04:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Jackal

render 2 (lathum 1134, autumn 1190)
PB 1 (EF 914)
Autumn 1 (heinz 1063)
Pass 1 (clap 1116)
clap 1 (Pass 1154)
Jackal 1 (Danny 1172)

That's an ugly spread that I contributed too, but I am sticking with my vote.

The Jackal · 04-30-2009, 04:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danny

five dola food long!

im tempted to vote you just for that

Danny · 04-30-2009, 04:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Jackal

im tempted to vote you just for that

lol

The Jackal · 04-30-2009, 04:15 PM

I guess there's nothing I can do to dispel this vibe of yours. You still haven't told me what was wrong with my reaction to the weapon, unless it was just your vibe of my post.. which is hard for me to respond to.

Danny · 04-30-2009, 04:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Jackal

I guess there's nothing I can do to dispel this vibe of yours. You still haven't told me what was wrong with my reaction to the weapon, unless it was just your vibe of my post.. which is hard for me to respond to.

It mostly was the vibe. Right now there is no voting record, so we're going off gut plus the possibility that a wolf went on the mission. I won't be around to argue a case for you, and may switch here before I leave just to narrow down the field, so you'll likely be safe

Poli · 04-30-2009, 04:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barkeep49

I got burned by this exact thinking once.

Yeah, not to rat myself out, because I am Union...but I have faked an emotional response before.

04-30-2009, 03:01 PM	#1152
Poli FOFC Survivor Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Wentzville, MO	My vote for Pass was one of 'piss me off'edness. I'm concerned that clap may have been trying to capitalize on that. __________________ Cheer for a walk on quarterback! Ardent leads the Vols in the dynasty forum.

04-30-2009, 03:02 PM	#1153
Poli FOFC Survivor Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Wentzville, MO	Off to run/work out. Back in about an hour. __________________ Cheer for a walk on quarterback! Ardent leads the Vols in the dynasty forum.

04-30-2009, 03:04 PM	#1156
Poli FOFC Survivor Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Wentzville, MO	I need to rethink apparently. Just kidding. __________________ Cheer for a walk on quarterback! Ardent leads the Vols in the dynasty forum.

04-30-2009, 02:59 PM	#1151
The Jackal Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: New Hampshire	That should be up to date.

04-30-2009, 03:02 PM	#1154
Passacaglia Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Big Ten Country	UNVOTE POLI VOTE CLAPHAMSA I'll move over to clap, since that vote seemed like he was trying to get a run started at a time when there a lot of outcry against me.

04-30-2009, 03:09 PM	#1158
EagleFan Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Mays Landing, NJ USA	Wow, way to much to catch up on now. I'll have to look at this after work. It looks like I missed a meltdown or two. FTR I was no where near either one!!! Some observations at the moment, without reading everything that has happened over these last 4 or 5 pages but skimming. Poli - I questioned his decision to go on the mission yesterday. Granted he wasn't here when it looked like we were really cutting it close. A little disappointed by the "I quit" routine though, to be honest. RendeR - I need to disagree with something that you said. You said that we would have needed to be three over on each task yesterday. Actually we only needed a surplus of 3 to at least give us a chance as those in surplus could have switched to the void caused in food distribution when I was rail roaded. Granted it would have taken one of the sympathizers to not work to make us fail but we would have at least had a group to narrow down the possibilities at that point. PB - Not convinced by your flopping. Your defensiveness looks a lot to me like what I've seen when you are a cornered wolf. Not switching off this vote at least yet. Lathum - We know that he is always a wolf. I really don't have enough of a feel for anyone at the moment. Suspect list: PB Almost suspect list: Lathum Pass The Jackal No clue: Everyone not on one of the other lists Leaning towards trust: Poli - I know what I said but I haven't seen him go off like that when he is a wolf, granted it's a limited sample size that I am basing this off. BK - Only because he had the same thought process as me on day one. Trust List: (empty)

04-30-2009, 03:10 PM	#1159
Autumn Head Coach Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Bath, ME	I'm not sure what the best way to use the two extra would be. Or actually I have an idea but I guess it's best not to spell it out this early.

04-30-2009, 03:12 PM	#1160
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	Im speed reading to catch up, except I don't know how to speed read.

04-30-2009, 03:17 PM	#1164
Autumn Head Coach Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Bath, ME	What flopping are you referring to EagleFan, with regard to PUrdueBrad? I'm trying to narrow down my list of suspects as well. Do you have anything on Pass or Jackal or Lathum other than gut?

04-30-2009, 03:18 PM	#1165
PurdueBrad Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: DeKalb, IL	I assume he's referring to me flip-flopping from mission to working.

04-30-2009, 03:19 PM	#1166
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	Not sure where are list was now, but Vote Jackal When I was reading Jeheinz, Jackal and others posts about my plan yesterday and how it shouldn't gain trust I came away with an eery feeling from Jackal. The fact that even in hindsight he thought my plan was not good (when it clearly is good in hindsight) And the fact that he was one of the three to go on the mission is iffy too.

04-30-2009, 03:21 PM	#1167
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	I feel pretty comfortable with my vote as I have got a wolfy vibe from Jackal all game and his activity level is almost unheard for him as a villager.

04-30-2009, 03:26 PM	#1168
Autumn Head Coach Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Bath, ME	Looking back I think PurdueBrad's flip seems legit. He thought he could do well with an item, resisted for an appropriate amount of time and then changed jobs once it became clear people were suspect. He certainly could be a wolf but I don't think there's any big suspicion there. Poli, likewise won't get my vote. He jumped on early and then seemed to really be gone all day. I'll believe his reveal for now. At the moment Render and Jackal are the only vote getters I have suspicion for. I'm not sure why Clap has a vote, I'll have to look back at that. I don't agree with Danny's reason for voting Jackal though, it just doesn't make sense to me.

04-30-2009, 03:27 PM	#1169
Autumn Head Coach Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Bath, ME	Ah, okay, now I remember. Pass's guess on Clap seems legit but it's not a lot to go on.

04-30-2009, 03:28 PM	#1170
TheNorm Mascot Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Chicago, IL	Sheesh, apparently I need to make more time at work to keep up on things; just trying to catch up to this felt like a marathon session. Anyway, for work I'll Work Treasury ...and as for voting I haven't decided yet. There's a lot going on here.

04-30-2009, 03:33 PM	#1172
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	For number three, you kind of have to read through it, I just got a very odd feeling when reading his posts through that and really have since yesterday.

04-30-2009, 03:36 PM	#1173
Autumn Head Coach Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Bath, ME	I'll read them again, Danny. I guess #3 doesn't jibe with me because I still don't think it was a good idea, even in hindsight. I guess if we have a day that we know we can't possibly win the camp I might be okay with the idea. I don't know. #2 resonates with me also. I don't know him enough to speak to #1.

04-30-2009, 03:38 PM	#1176
Autumn Head Coach Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Bath, ME	I guess I'd need post numbers, Danny. I didn't even find where Jackal responded at all to your idea.

04-30-2009, 03:40 PM	#1178
The Jackal Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: New Hampshire	well, i screwed up the formatting, but those were both posts from earlier

04-30-2009, 03:44 PM	#1180
Autumn Head Coach Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Bath, ME	Okay, I thought he was talking about something that happened right after he posed the idea. Now that I think about it, I think that was someone else that he was suspicious of yesterday, because they didn't like his idea. Barkeep maybe?

04-30-2009, 03:45 PM	#1181
The Jackal Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: New Hampshire	Man. Even if I had switched from the mission it wouldn't have mattered. There would have to have at least been two of us, and three if a wolf faked (if i recall the numbers correctly). Leaving just two people on the mission when it wasn't certain we were going to lose the camp seemed like a BAD idea to me.

04-30-2009, 03:46 PM	#1183
Autumn Head Coach Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Bath, ME	Right now I'm leaning toward voting Render. Obviously he and I had a lot of exchanges today, and that's part of the reason. He seemed a bit over the top to me, though that could have just been a defensive villager. Looking back though, he's also the one who got a mysterious item and PMed it to an uknown person. That's exactly what I'd do if I was a wolf that got an item as well. Nothing strong, so I'm not settled on the vote. But it adds up to a circumstantial case to me.

04-30-2009, 03:48 PM	#1184
The Jackal Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: New Hampshire	I'm kind of with you there, Autumn. I forgot that RendeR never revealed his item, that really hasn't gotten much attention.

04-30-2009, 03:49 PM	#1185
The Jackal Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: New Hampshire	I don't particularly like clap's vote, but I'm not really getting a read off of him. And if I'm deciding between Poli/RendeR/PB, I'd lean towards RendeR.

04-30-2009, 03:51 PM	#1186
Autumn Head Coach Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Bath, ME	Yeah, and certainly it could be a villager play. Keep it quiet from the wolves. But I have to assume the wolves did, or really tried to, send a wolf for an item. Render has given me the worst vibe out of you, him, Purdue and Norm. I certainly am not very good at reading villager/wolf though so I'm going to keep seeing what other people think.

04-30-2009, 03:55 PM	#1187
Autumn Head Coach Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Bath, ME	I just looked back at Clap's posts. He's been basically silent since day one, his only posts work orders or fluff. Certainly UTR, but I can't see anything to point a finger at him for.

04-30-2009, 04:09 PM	#1188
EagleFan Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Mays Landing, NJ USA	By the time I really catch up with this thread the game is going to be over... I will look at the PB thing a little more closely as it seems that some have been giving him the benefit of the doubt. I just remember the flip but not everything around it.

04-30-2009, 04:11 PM	#1190
Autumn Head Coach Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Bath, ME	triple dola I'm going to dinner, and should be back before deadline. But I'll be putting the kids to bed, so you never know. I'm going to put down a placeholder vote for now. VOTE RENDER

04-30-2009, 04:11 PM	#1191
Autumn Head Coach Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Bath, ME	Stupid Internets.

04-30-2009, 04:12 PM	#1192
The Jackal Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: New Hampshire	render 2 (lathum 1134, autumn 1190) PB 1 (EF 914) Autumn 1 (heinz 1063) Pass 1 (clap 1116) clap 1 (Pass 1154) Jackal 1 (Danny 1172)

04-30-2009, 04:13 PM	#1193
EagleFan Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Mays Landing, NJ USA	I guess triple dola has a different meaning during the fall...

04-30-2009, 04:13 PM	#1194
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	five dola food long!

04-30-2009, 04:15 PM	#1198
The Jackal Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: New Hampshire	I guess there's nothing I can do to dispel this vibe of yours. You still haven't told me what was wrong with my reaction to the weapon, unless it was just your vibe of my post.. which is hard for me to respond to.