FOFC Stock Car Challenge: In the beginning

[RendeR]

Ok folks, I loaded NASCAR Season 2003 back up on my laptop and felet like messing around with things and remembered that a lot of you really enjoyed our old league. So, I'm going to take the first come first served requests to fill in rides in my new dynasty. I'll be doing the simming and writing up race reports.

I will take the first 5 people to request a car and Number (I will post a list of those available below but feel free to get your requests in before that if you know a car you want.) The cars will be those that have run in the Winston Cup series over the last decade or so. (Yes winston cup, this sprint cup shit is for pussies)

All the engine/car/pit crew scores will be standardized for every car in the field.

The drivers stats will be generated by random.org and will not be made public.

The first season will pit 5 rookie FOFC drivers against 5 randomly selected real drivers with their stats modiied from an old list I found based on an online leagues re-creation of a real season.

As the season goes along players will gain/lose points within their stats based on performance. (random.org will be used liberally but for small effect at any given change)

So, who wants their name in the game? I will be using your FOF username for simplicity's sake.

Sign Up!

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Running Results links:
Races
http://www.majecc.net/majecc/FOFCRac...20S1%20R1.html
http://www.majecc.net/majecc/FOFCRac...20S1%20R2.html

Standings Race by Race
http://www.majecc.net/majecc/FOFCRac...20S1%20R1.html
http://www.majecc.net/majecc/FOFCRac...20S1%20R2.html


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[PurdueBrad]

RendeR, I would love to be in. I'll take the 25 car if available. Black and gold if you are doing car colors.

[cubboyroy1826]

Okay i am in and will take number 23 with blue and orange for the colors.

[RendeR]

Sorry PB, I won;t be doing any car painting this time round. The cars are already set with numbers and sponsors. I'll have the list up momentarily.

[PurdueBrad]

No problem RendeR, wish I would've been around last time you did it.

[Travis]

Count me in for car #19 please.

[RendeR]

Updated Car listing Linked to Photo
00 Aquafresh Chevy
0 NetZero Pontiac
1 Pepsi One Chevy
2 Miller Lite Dodge
3 Gm Goodwrench Chevy
4 Kodak Gold Chevy
5 Kellogg's Corn Flakes Chevy -- SirFozzie
6 Valvoline Ford
7 Jim Beam Ford -- CoffeeWarlord
8 Budweiser Chevy -- Packerfanatic
9 MOPAR/Dodge Dodge
10 Valvoline Dodge -- damnmikebrown
11 Fedex Chevy
12 ALLtel Dodge
14 Mountain Dew Ford -- BYU14
15 Nilla Wafers Chevy
16 Granger Ford
17 Dewalt Ford
18 Interstate Batteries Chevy
19 Dodge/MOPAR Dodge -- Travis
20 Home Depot Chevy
21 Citgo Ford
22 Caterpillar Dodge
23 Camel Ford -- cubboyroy1826
24 Mountain Dew Pitch Black Chevy -- cmp
26 Crown Royal Ford -- PurdueBrad
28 Havoline Ford
30 Pennzoil Pontiac
31 Cingular Chevy
33 Skoal Chevy
36 Skittle Pontiac
37 K-Mart Ford
38 M&M's Ford
40 Coor's Light Dodge
41 Target Dodge
42 Texaco Dodge
43 Cheerios Dodge
44 Polar Chevy
46 First Union Chevy
48 Lowes Chevy
51 Exxon Chevy -- RendeR
99 Exide Batteries Ford

(more to come)

[PackerFanatic]

Throw me down in the 8. Should be fun!

[RendeR]

Thats 4 so far, one more and I'll get things rolling on my end.

Work is interfering a bit tonight so bear with me. I'll post more as soon as I have it.

[SirFozzie]

Gimme the #5?

[Coffee Warlord]

Waaiiiiiit for me! Six is better than five, right?

#7 if you wanna do six. If not, no problem.

[RendeR]

Hrm, well 10 cars on the track is rather dull, I'l double it up. ten fofc drivers and 10 real guys. Besides I still have stuff to do before I begin =)

[BYU 14]

I'll take #14 then

[PurdueBrad]

I'll take the 26 as it looks like there isn't a 25. Gracias RendeR!

[cmp]

I'd like the 24. I just put NR2003 back on my computer the other day as well and had me thinking of starting up another dynasty again for it.

[RendeR]

8 So far, others feel free to grab a car. I'll add however many want to have them.

[RendeR]

Alrighty folks, we have 15 cars for our inaugural season. The teams in bold are FOFC drivers, the teams in Red are fillers.

The season will be 15 races on 15 different tracks determined randomly.

Each race will be at 25% of its standard length to represent this as the rookie level of racing.

Stats for each driver (including the fillers) are set at 40-60 (max of 0-100)
Stats for engines/cars/pitcrews are all 100-100 Maxed out to keep things even.

As I run the races I will award points for the following:

pole position: 10 points
Outside Pole: 5 points
Lead most laps: 10 points
Lead any single lap: 5 points
Positions gained during event : 1 point per position
positions lost during event: -1 per position
Race win: 10 points
Finish 2-5: 5 points
Finish 6-10: 3 Points
Finish on lead lap: 1 point (positions 11 and down but on lead lap)
Finishing laps down: -1 point or each lap down (This only affects cars that are RUNNING at the end of the race, those out due to engine failures or accidents will not incur this penalty)

These points will be then added into your drivers stats based on the type of track followed by a random.org spin.

Drivers losing points will lose them the same way.

There will be advancement and relegation in the future if/when enough new people join up to create a second group of 15 drivers. The top 2 drivers each season will advance, the bottom 2 will fall to the lower level.

I'll dpo random snap shots from time to time. I will also post shots of everyone's car's at some point.

more to come!

[RendeR]

Note the sponsors changed on a few cars as I found better looking ones.

[damnMikeBrown]

I count 9 fofc drivers... me me me me me!!!
(if space is available)

I'll be the 10 car as...I'm the 10th fofcer

[RendeR]

Sounds good DMB, you'll have the #10 car and I will run the first race as soon as I have you entered.

[RendeR]

Race Number 1 is in the Books.

One of the Drones, Ernie Irvan, stole the show early leading 29 laps. On laps 29 and 30 pit stops were made by all teams and the field got shuffled. Irvan couldn't get back up to the front and finished 2nd. Only 2 FOFC drivers cracked the top 5. Clean race, 50 laps at Texas Motor Speedway. Links to results below.

Winner of the Texas Race: PurdueBrad!!


Results of Texas, Race #1 of 15

Standings after Race #1 of 15


No screen shots of this one, it was pretty bland. When something interesting or kewl happens I'll post snapshots. Experience gained/Lost info coming shortly.

Experience Point earnings/Losses after Race #1

PurdueBrad +21 (Winner,Positions Gained, Laps Led)
CoffeeWarlord +16 (Positions Gained, Laps Led, Top 10)
BYU14 +10 (Position Gained, Top 10)
Travis +5 (Positions Gained, Top 10)
RendeR +3 (Positions Lost, Top 5)
Damnmikebrown +2 (Positions Gained, Lead Lap)
PackerFanatic +1 (Positions lost, Top 10)

SirFozzie -1 (Positions Lost, Top 10)
Cubboyroy -5 (Positions lost, Lead Lap)
Cmp -7 (Outside pole, positions Lost, Lead lap)


Points will be allocated via random.org prior to the next race.

[damnMikeBrown]

Brad may have lost his mock election, but he stole the show here in Texas. Well done!

[cubboyroy1826]

Hey guys is there a decent NASCAR sim that i can download somewhere to try it out?

[Izulde]

I wish they still made Pitch Black.

[RendeR]

They have Pitch Black here every now and then. Where are you?

[RendeR]

Originally Posted by cubboyroy1826

Hey guys is there a decent NASCAR sim that i can download somewhere to try it out?

NR 2003 Season is the best real simulator/game ever made. You can probably find it for dirt cheap on ebay or free to download somewhere if you look around a bit.

[cubboyroy1826]

Does it allow me to sim things rather than have to drive?

[Izulde]

Originally Posted by RendeR

They have Pitch Black here every now and then. Where are you?

A mixture of WI and AR. Currently in AR.

[RendeR]

Race Number 2 is in the Books.

This was a race of segments, early on it was CoffeeWarlord leading the way to be overtaken by BYU14. After the first round of pitstops BYU simply dominated. The second set of pitstops shook up the standings a bit but no one had anything for that mountain Dew car as BYU14 simply ran roughshod over the North Carolina Race track.

Winner of the Rockingham, NC Race: BYU14!!!



Results of Rockingham, NC Race #2 of 15

Standings after Race #2 of 15


No screen shots of this one, it was pretty bland.

Experience Point earnings/Losses after Race #2 Coming Soon.

BYU14 +26 (Winner, Most laps led, outside Pole, positions gained)
SirFozzie +15 (positions gained, top 5, Laps Led)
Damnmikebrown +15 (Positions gained, top 5)
CoffeeWarlord +13 (Positions gained, Top 5, laps Led)
PackerFanatic +13 (Positions gained, top 5)
Travis +6 (Pole Position, Positions lost, Laps Led, Lead lap)
Cubboyroy +4 (Positions gained, Top 10)
PurdueBrad +3 (Positions gained, Lead Lap)
cmp +2 (positions lost, top 10)

RendeR -4 (positions Lost, Top 10)

Points will be allocated via random.org prior to the next race.

[RendeR]

Originally Posted by cubboyroy1826

Does it allow me to sim things rather than have to drive?

Yes, thats how I run this game =) Basically you go into it as if you were driving an extra car (in our case I add the game default #86 car) but when teh race starts you don't click on drive you just let the game run and watch the fun.

[cubboyroy1826]

Cool i will have to check out the demo.

[cubboyroy1826]

I just ebay and the Nascar 2003 is thru the roof expensive. What is the deal with this game? One guy was asking $70.

[RendeR]

Its the last version of the ultimate nascar simulator. EA bought out the rights from NASCAR and their version sucks ass, is a kiddy game. Papyrus is the only company that should have ever touched a NASCAR sim. Thats why its still pricey. Keep looking though, you can find one cheap somewhere.

[RendeR]

I was the only driver to LOSE points in this race. Man my car sucked ass. The most points you can gain in any given event is 34. Start last, Win and lead the most laps.

Starting on the pole, winning and leading the most laps only gets you 30.

[Coffee Warlord]

Ramming speed!

[PurdueBrad]

Originally Posted by RendeR

Race Number 1 is in the Books.

One of the Drones, Ernie Irvan, stole the show early leading 29 laps. On laps 29 and 30 pit stops were made by all teams and the field got shuffled. Irvan couldn't get back up to the front and finished 2nd. Only 2 FOFC drivers cracked the top 5. Clean race, 50 laps at Texas Motor Speedway. Links to results below.

Winner of the Texas Race: PurdueBrad!!


Results of Texas, Race #1 of 15

Standings after Race #1 of 15


No screen shots of this one, it was pretty bland. When something interesting or kewl happens I'll post snapshots. Experience gained/Lost info coming shortly.

Experience Point earnings/Losses after Race #1

PurdueBrad +21 (Winner,Positions Gained, Laps Led)
CoffeeWarlord +16 (Positions Gained, Laps Led, Top 10)
BYU14 +10 (Position Gained, Top 10)
Travis +5 (Positions Gained, Top 10)
RendeR +3 (Positions Lost, Top 5)
Damnmikebrown +2 (Positions Gained, Lead Lap)
PackerFanatic +1 (Positions lost, Top 10)

SirFozzie -1 (Positions Lost, Top 10)
Cubboyroy -5 (Positions lost, Lead Lap)
Cmp -7 (Outside pole, positions Lost, Lead lap)


Points will be allocated via random.org prior to the next race.

BLAND NOTHING! WINNER, WINNER, CHICKEN DINNER!!!

[BYU 14]

Nice, in 2 races I have already surpassed my performance from the first go round!!

[PackerFanatic]

Woo, a top 3 finish! Didn't lead a lap, but bumped myself up in the standings quite a bit.

[cubboyroy1826]

Okay a couple of questions for you NASCAR guys. How does NASCAR 2002 compare? Can you do some kind of a career sim with this if not is there a game out there that allows you to. I am not so much concerned with the graphics being top of the line. After playing around with demo for 2003 i am intrigued and thought it might be cool to mess around with.

[RendeR]

2002 is just the previous incarnation of 03, its the same engine ad pretty much the same simpulation. The big upgrades from 2002 to 2003 were graphics and updating for a new group of drivers. You can do everything the same way tiwh 2002 that I am doing with this one.

[cubboyroy1826]

Render can you do a multi season sim with this game or are you limited to a specific season?

[RendeR]

Originally Posted by cubboyroy1826

Render can you do a multi season sim with this game or are you limited to a specific season?

You basically run one season at a time, If you want to track data of=ver multiple seasons you have to make sure you export your results after each race (it generates html files like the ones I linked above) The game itself does not track much of anything, IE you can't go into anything IN the game and see everyone's statistics over the life of the driver.

So I guess the answer is, its single season at a time and any data mining you want to do you have to generate on your own.

[RendeR]

Race Number 3 is in the Books.

RendeR has had a rough couple races so far, but this week it was ALL the big guy as the Exxon Chevrolet not only blistered the field to take the pole position, but led 38 of the 67 laps to take home the win!! Top points gained by way of the polr position for the first time this season. BYU14 and his Mountain Dew team tried valiantly to use strategy to enhance their chances. Pitting 4 laps after everyone else during the first cycle and trying to stay out and steal the win at the end of the race, only to fall 3 laps short on fuel and have to pit. Returning the lead to RendeR who pulled away from Damnmikebrown and PurduBrad for his first Victory of the year.

Winner of the Las Vegas Race: RendeR!!!






Results of Las Vegas Race #3 of 15

Standings after Race #3 of 15



Experience Point earnings/Losses after Race #3 Coming Soon.

RendeR +30 (Pole, Win, most laps led)
PurdueBrad +19 (pos Gained, Top 5)
Damnmikebrown +14 (Pos Lost, Outside pole, Top 5, Lap Led)
SirFozzie +14 (Pos Gained, Top 5)
Travis +8 (pos gained, Top 10)
CoffeeWarlord +3 (Top 10)
BYU14 +3 (Pos Lost, Top 10, Lap Led)
PackerFanatic +2 (pos gained, Lead lap)

cmp -0- (Pos Lost, Top 10)

Cubboyroy -3 (Pos lost, Lead lap)

Points will be allocated via random.org prior to the next race.

[PackerFanatic]

Bummer, first finish outside the top 10.

[RendeR]

It interesting watching the cars interact on the track. The stats are all nearly identical but some cars have good days and are obviously stronger than others. I love the sim engine behind tihs.

[damnMikeBrown]

I'm pleased my virtual self seems as impatient as I am behind the wheel.

[PurdueBrad]

Damn, I'll take a second place finish and the current points lead.

[RendeR]

You're onl;y up 3 points man don't get cocky *grins*

[PurdueBrad]

"It's all good" says racer PurdueBrad as he flips down the shades and kicks his feet up, "It's all good."

[RendeR]

A couple major Announcements were made this weekend at atlanta motor Speedway:

Mountain Dew representative Rapid Q Spasm stood with Driver BYU14 and other members of the #14 team and announced that they have re-upped their sponsorship deal for next season. Spasm spoke jerkily and quickly when he said "Dude wins, DO THE DEW!" after which is pounded a 1 liter bottle and passed out cold on the stage.

After the race another team got word that its sponsor would return as well. In Victory LANE. Crown Royal Chief executives were on hand for the Atlanta event and after watching their driver, PurdueBrad, dominate the race and hold off a HUGE effort by the Exxon team at the every end for the win said "This is our man, we're gonna ride this boy all the way to the top!"

Two teams, 3 wins between them and two sponsorships locked in for 2009.

Race Number 4 is in the Books.

It looked as if the smart remarks and "We're #1" attitude of the Crown Royal Ford team was going to come up short today. The Exxon #51 Chevy twice came roaring back from large time deficits on the track but the second time just came up a bit short.

The start of the event was quite calm and the cars ran single file most of the way. PB pulled out to a 3 second lead and it looked like a runaway show. Then around lap 16 RendeR's Impala simply took off like a rocketship. He cut the lead away 2 and 3 tenths of a second at a time. Finally taking the lead from PB.

Everyone made pit stops betwee laps 29 and 33 and the field settled back in and as luck would have it, PB was again 2+ seconds ahead and he held it for awhile until again RendeR flipped some switch and his car rocketed forward to take the lead.

Pitstops on lap 58 set the field up for the final run, 20 laps to the finish. PB came out fast and again had a 2.60 second lead. RendeR lay in second trying to cut into that lead. Unfortunately for the rest of the field it bacame a two horse race. 3rd place CofeeWarlord was almost 6 seconds behind RendeR.

So the laps wound down. 18, 15, 14 to go and the lead had dwindled to 1.6 seconds. 10 to go and still PB held a 1.2 second lead. 8, 6, 5, 4 laps to go and here came RendeR only .97 seconds back. 2 to go and the lead was merely a half SECOND...the final lap was a dead sprint for both cars, RendeR closed in but simply couldn;t catch PB at the line.

Victory for PurdueBrad and the Crown Royal FORD!

Not all the news was good today, outside Pole sitter SirFozzie was suffering from Flu like symptoms and it showed today as he went from the outside pole to dead last during the race. He showed some spark and grit during the event but lets just say this is a day SirFozzie would rather soon forget.


Winner of the Las Vegas Race: PurdueBrad!!!








Results of Las Vegas Race #4 of 15

Standings after Race #4 of 15



Experience Point earnings/Losses after Race #4 Coming Soon.

PurdueBrad +24 (Winner, Pos Gained, Laps Led)
Cubboyroy +19 (Pos gained, Top 5, laps Led)
CoffeeWarlord +17 (Pole, Pos Lost, Top 5, Laps Led)
RendeR +14 (Pos gained, Top 5, Laps Led)
cmp +11 (Pos gained, Top 10, Laps Led)
PackerFanatic +9 (Pos Gained, Top 10)
Travis +8 (Pos Gained, Top 10)
Damnmikebrown +3 (Top 10)

Byu14 -2 (pos Lost, Lead lap)
SirFozzie -8 (Pos Lost, Outside pole)

Points will be allocated via random.org prior to the next race.