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Old 08-28-2009, 06:53 PM   #51
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73. Grand Theft Auto III
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PS2
2001
GameSpot - 9.6
Action - Thug


Hello and welcome to one of the truly great games of the past decade. When I did a previous list, I decided to go with Bully, but GTAIII still was great and needed a spot.

If you don't know what GTAIII is, or you have never played it, stop reading, go to a gamestore with used games, buy it, play it, and love it.

Otherwise, there is little else I can do to tell you this is a good game. It is. It changed gaming. It is one of the few games that changed gaming for games outside of its genre. Other games like that include Half Life, or game #68 on our countdown.

GTAIII was award winning, the best selling game from its generation, and has had many things said about it - great, amazing, perfect, the next level of gaming, etc.

So, yup, its great. That's about all I can say. GTAIII rocks.
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Old 08-28-2009, 09:38 PM   #52
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72. Soul Calibur II
Namco
GameCube, XBox, PS2
2003
GameSpot: 8.5
Action - Fighting



There are not many fighting games that I consider to be truly great. I most think of them as carbon copies of each other, and yet, Soul Caliber II is above the rest for numerous reasons.

The game is a lot smoother than other console fighters and the special moves that you can do simply are enough to give the characters some serious power.

Soul Caliber II's quest is a lot better than the normal "Fight Random Characters" campaign that fighters normally give you. You can acquire items and such over time. Very nice.

The result is a fun game that plays well, and more importantly, keeps my interest in single player or against a real life foe, whether my girlfriend or my buddies or my residents or my staff.
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Old 08-28-2009, 10:20 PM   #53
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#8 aka 71 is going to be outside the box. I'm warning ya.
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71. BattleTech VR
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BattleTech Center
1990
Action/Simulation - Mecha


Okay, let's suppose you have never heard of a BattleTech Center. The first one opened in 1990 in Chicago. These were centers with linked BattleMech stations that were designed to give players the best gaming experience you could.

The graphics and controls were state of the art, with over 80 buttons, knob and switches thta did various things. For ten minutes, you would pilot a BattleMech against your friends or strangers, in order to have a lot of fun. At the end, each player would get a print out of the results.

The game did a lot of things very, very well. It worked with visibility, gravity, destructible environments, 3D shooting, and more. It was essentially a 3D shooter before Wolfenstein 3D, only as a 'Mech and against others.

It's free-for-all MP experience would prophesy later games such as Half-Life and Quake.

The game massively state of art, and you simply cannot understand how good it was in 1990 until you have played through it a few times, and by then, you have had loads of fun. There are still a few of these here and there, including Grand Rapids, MI, Madison, WI, Colorado, California, and Texas.

Anyway, enjoy!
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Old 08-29-2009, 02:17 PM   #55
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70. Sid Meier's Pirates!
MicroProse
Commodore 64
1987
GameSpot - 8.8*
Action/Simulation


Say hello to #7 on our countdown and yet another MicroProse game.

Pirates! was the first attempt by the company to move past the Flight Simulators that were their bread and butter into other genres.

Pirates! was a great game for its time, and it was enough of game that twice it was remade with virtually the same gameplay only updated graphics and interface, and both times, those have been very successful.

Sailing with a pirate ship, finding booty, fighting ships, and more! All on your 1987 Commodore 64, and then ported to many other systems.

I'm sure everyone here has played it, so nothing I can say can either convince you it is worth it or not, based on whatever opinion you already have.

So it's here at 70 for me.
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Old 08-29-2009, 03:53 PM   #56
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69. Contra
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1987
Action - Run N' Gun


The best Run N Gun game, ever, period, was Contra. The game was one of the smoothest on the NES, which was a console that often had a lot of clunky games. The two player play was great.

The game was way ahead of itself with a game play that evokes later games in the Hell of Bullets subgenre that will follow win the next gen. Of the games for the 3rd gen, no other game establishes the games to come for the Run N Gun genre like Contra does (well, maybe Super Contra...).

The result is a fun game that feels like the next rung for the system, very smooth, a blast to play, and rocks people all day long.


To Contra!
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Old 08-29-2009, 03:54 PM   #57
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68. StarCraft
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1998
PC
GameSpot - 9.1
Strategy - Real Time



There are a few games that really changed games outside of their genre. Half Life, GTAIII, StarCraft, a few others here and there, and that's it.

After StarCraft, no other RTS has stood up. In the past 11 years, no game in the genre has been as good. Command & Conquer and Warcraft both made my list, because they were fun and a blast to play, but StarCraft just ends the conversation.

StarCraft is a great game, and still fun to play, but except for a few ways, it was not as much of an increase in value as some might think.

Warcraft II and the C&C franchise both had already evolved many of the things StarCraft would build on. Where StarCraft was original was three races instead of two, and each had different buildings and ways of doing things, and yet all three were balanced. Because of that, the game was a ton of fun to play.

The game also finally got aerial units right. Other games had experimented with them, but StarCraft finished it.

The result is a game that was a lot of fun to play, solid graphics, built on the shoulders of those who came before, but was the perfect storm of game, the ambitious next rung of the genre was just enough to work, without biting off more than could be chewed.
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Old 08-29-2009, 04:08 PM   #59
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67. Guitar Hero
Harmonix
2005
PS2
GameSpot: 9.0
Rhythm


Okay, let's start. I know some players on this board are too cool for school, and as a result, think Guitar Hero and similar games are not true games, or beneath them, or whatnot. If that applies to you, you are stupid. Knock it off.

GH is fun, it's a blast, and it is a game that made a genre previously relegated to Dance Dance Revolution cool to gamers. Grab a guitar, and play some rock and roll, man!

The game is awesome to play, and it has shot a lot of players with a jolt of rhythm lovin'. Players now make space for guitars (and drums and mics) next to their tvs.

Let's hear it for rockin'!
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66. Sid Meier's Alpha Centauri
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1999
GameSpot: 9.1
Strategy - 4X


Civilization was amazing, Master of Magic, Master of Orion II, and Colonization were all in my top 30, and not many really protested.

Alpha Centauri was good too, no question. I like how different factions have different abilities, and you often have different strategies as a result.

The game was a lot of fun, from designing your units to aliens in the expansion. As such, the game was totally worth playing.

However, it was much harder to get into. It's easy for me to choose between the relative merits of researching bronze working vs the wheel. It is much harder for me to judge sci-fi sounding technologies that mean nothing to me.

The game system ends up on an alien world, with future techs and unknown factions. It's still fun, no question, but the game feels less than Civ, as a result.
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Old 08-29-2009, 04:22 PM   #61
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65. Jagged Alliance 2
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1999
GameSpot: 8.8
Strategy


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Since X-Com, JA2 is the only game, the ONLY game, that comes close to being an X-Com. Not Laser Squad (or LSN), not the countless UFO games, and not many of the later X-Com games, but JA2.

I know, it's not a sci fi game, not a fantasy game - just a game where some mercs try to take over the island of Arulco. But I am telling you now, the game is, flat out, close to X-Com.


From managing the money aspect, to missions, to exploring Arulco, to grabbing and freeing mines and getting more money, the game is really good.

Now, is it X-Com? Nope. No research, no bases, no worldscape screen, no politics, etc. The game is still really good, but it's no X-Com.

But what is?
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This is the final game and it is WAAAAAAY outside the box
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64. Majestic
Anim-X
PC
2001
GameSpot: 6.7
Alternate Reality Game



For those who do not like Electronic Arts, and think they are very formulaic, remember Majestic. In the entire history of electronic gaming, there has NEVER been a game as avant garde, as outside the box, and as risky as Majestic. Can you imagine someone pitching Majestic to EA? Can you imagine how EA actually greenlit it?

The result was a game that was more than a game, and less than a game. The result was an experience that was simply, and amazingly, awesome.

The result was a game I will never forget.

Yes, it failed. To this day, I wish it hadn;t, but it had.

I still remember a call at 6:13 am in the morning warning me off researching the game.

This game rocked. Flat out. Flat out.
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HN: Star Fox - SNES - Action
100. Populous - PC - Simulation - God Game
99. Adventure - Atari - Action/Adventure
98. Wishbringer - PC - Adventure - Interactive Fiction
97. Planescape: Torment - PC - RPG
96. Crossbow - Coin-Op - Action - Shooter
95. Robot Odyssey - Apple II - Adventure - Educational
94. Dark Legions - PC - Action/Strategy
93. Donkey Kong - Coin-Op - Action - Platform
92. Goldeneye 007 - N64 - Action - FPS/Stealth
91. The Bard's Tale - Apple II - RPG - Dungeon Crawl
90. Commando - Commodore 64 - Action Run N' Gun
89. Bejeweled - PC - Puzzle
88. M.U.G.E.N. - PC - Action - Fighting
87. Blaster Master - NES - Action - Platform
86. WariorWare Inc - GBA - Action
85. Knights of the Old Republic - XBox - RPG
84. Qix - Coin-Op - Action
83. Medieval: Total War - PC - Strategy - Military, Turn Based
82. NHL Hockey - Intellivision - Sports - Hockey
81. Tetris - PC - Puzzle
80. Oregon Trail II - PC - Adventure - Educational
79. Ninja Gaiden - NES - Action - Platform, Combat
78. Evil Genius - PC - Strategy
77. Command and Conquer - PC - Strategy - Real-Time
76. Overlord - XBOX 360 - Action/RPG
75. Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney - GBA/DS - Adventure
74. Microsurgeon - Intellivision - Action
73. Grand Theft Auto III - PS2 - Action - Thug
72. Soul Calibur II - GC/PS2/XBOX - Action - Fighting
71. BattleTech VR - BattleTech Center - Action/Simulation - Mecha
70. Sid Meier's Pirates! - Commodore 64 - Action/Simulation
69. Contra - NES - Action - Run N' Gun
68. StarCraft - PC - Strategy - Real Time
67. Guitar Hero - PS2 - Rhythm
66. Sid Meier's Alpha Centauri - PC - Strategy - 4X
65. Jagged Alliance 2 - PC - Strategy
64. Majestic - PC - Alternate Reality Game
63. Pool of Radiance - PC - RPG
62. Wolfenstein 3D - PC - First Person Shooter
61. Military Madness - TurboGrafx - Strategy - Wargame
60. Serf City (aka Settlers) - PC - Simulation - Economic
59. Moraff's World - PC - RPG - Dungeon Crawl
58. Scorched Earth - PC - Strategy - Tank
57. Metroid - NES - Action/Adventure - Platform
56. MarioParty 5 - GameCube - Strategy/Action - Party Game
55. Deathtrack - PC - Action/Simulation - Racing
54. Dungeon Keeper - PC - Strategy
53. Triple Action - Intellivision - Action
52. Pac-Man - Coin-Operated - Action
51. Castlevania II: Simon's Quest - NES - RPG/Action - Platform
50. Bully - PS2 - Action/Adventure - Thug
49. Lakers versus Celtics - PC - Sports - Basketball
48. Street Fighter II - SNES - Action - Fighting
47. Sea Rogue - PC - RPG/Action/Adventure/Strategy
46. Archon: The Light and The Dark - Atari 8 Bit Computer - Action/Strategy
45. Fallout - PC - RPG
44. Railroad Tycoon 3 - PC - Strategy/Simulation - Economic
43. Mega Man 2 - NES - Action - Platform
42. Sid Meier's SimGolf - PC - Action/Simulation - Sports/Economic
41. Mario Brothers - Coin-Operated - Action - Platform
40. NFL Football - Intellivision - Sports - Football
39. Warcraft: Orcs & Humans - PC - Strategy - Real-Time
38. MechWarrior 2: 31st Century Combat - PC - Action/Simulation - Mecha
37. Metal Gear - NES - Action/Adventure - Stealth
36. Utopia - Intellivision - Strategy/Simulation - Real Time/God Game
35. Katamari Damacy - PS2 - Action
34. Super Mario Kart - SNES - Action/Sports - Racing
33. RollerCoaster Tycoon - PC - Simulation - Economic
32. Sea Battle - Intellivision - Strategy/Action
31. Baldur's Gate - PC - RPG
30. Monster Rancher 3 - PS2 - Strategy/Action
29. Master of Orion 2 - PC - Strategy/Simulation - 4x
28. Madden '99 - Nintendo 64 - Sports/Action - Football
27. Might and Magic VI - PC - RPG
26. TradeWars 2002 - BBS Door Game - Simulation
25. Star Chamber - PC - Strategy
24. Guild Wars - PC - RPG - MMORPG
23. Wing Commander - PC - Simulation - Outer Space
22. Tropico - PC - Simulation - Economic
21. Heroes of Might and Magic II - PC - Strategy - 4x
20. Final Fantasy - NES - RPG
19. Colonization - PC - Strategy/Simulation - 4x
18. SimCity 4 - PC - Simulation - Economic
17. The Legend of Zelda - NES - RPG/Adventure - Platform
16. Half-Life - PC - Action - First Person Shooter
15. Front Office Football 2001 - PC - Sports/Simulation - Football, Economic
14. Wasteland - PC - RPG
13. Pokemon: Pearl & Diamond - GameBoy DS - RPG/Adventure
12. Europa Universalis II - PC - Strategy/Simulation
11. Star Control II - PC - Strategy/Adventure
10. Civilization - PC - Strategy/Simulation - 4x
9. Angband - Unix - RPG - Dungeon Crawl
8. Culdcept - Saturn - Strategy
7. Magic: the Gathering - PC - Strategy/Adventure
6. X-Com: UFO Defense - PC - Strategy
5. Master of Magic - PC - Strategy/Simulation - 4x
4. Crusader Kings - PC - Strategy/Simulation
3. Ultima Online - PC - RPG - MMORPG
2. The Elder Scrolls: Morrowind - PC - RPG
1. Football Manager 2006 - PC - Sports/Simulation - Football (Soccer)


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Old 08-29-2009, 04:58 PM   #66
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How many games are...

RTS? 3 - Warcraft, Starcraft, C&C
FPS? 3 - Half Life, Goldeneye 007, Wolfenstein 3D
4X? 6 - MOO2, MOM, Civ, Alpha Centauri, Colonization, HOMM2
Pure RPG? 10 - KOTOR, BG, Wasteland, Fallout, Pool of Radiance, Morrowind, M&M6, Final Fantasy, Planescape: Torment, Angband
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Consoles....


2nd Gen - 7 - Adventure, Utopia, Sea Battle, NFL Football, NHL Hockey, Triple Action, Microsurgeon

3rd Gen - 9 - Zelda, FF, Contra, Metroid, Blaster Master, Ninja Gaiden, Castlevania II, Mega Man 2, Metal Gear

4th Gen - 4 - Military Madness, Star Fox, Super Mario Kart, Street Fighter II

5th Gen - 3 - Culdcept, Goldeneye 007, Madden '99

6th Gen - 8 - Mario Party 5, Bully, Soul Calibur II, GTAIII, Guitar Hero, KOTOR, Monster Rancher 3, Katamari Damacy

7th Gen - 1 - Overlord
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Old 08-29-2009, 05:17 PM   #68
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4th and 5th gen were game poor, and most of the best games then were in series that got awards from other gens. (Examples include FF7, which lost out to NES FF, Symphony of Night which lost out to Simon's Quest, Metal Gear Solid losing to Metal Gear, and Ocarina of Time which lost out to TLOZ the original from NES).


Edit: Plus, a lot of 4th Gen games were about graphics and speed. Look what we can do! Not about gameplay.
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Coin-ops?

5 - Crossbow, Mario Brothers, Qix, Donkey Kong, Pac Man
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How many for handhelds?

3 - Pokemon, WarioWare, Phoenix Wright


How many are not for a coin-op, console, handheld or home computer?

2 - BattleTech VR, TradeWars 2002
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PC?

51, although many have PC versions too (such as Angband, Robot Odyssey or Bard's Tale)
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Of these were released for free either as Shareware or Freeware (initially, not later?)

4 - Wolfenstein 3D, Scorched Earth, Angband, Moraff's World
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64. Majestic
Anim-X
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2001
GameSpot: 6.7
Alternate Reality Game


For those who do not like Electronic Arts, and think they are very formulaic, remember Majestic. In the entire history of electronic gaming, there has NEVER been a game as avant garde, as outside the box, and as risky as Majestic.

I had huge hopes for this game when it came out and played it from start to finish. It was a wonderful concept that was just poorly executed, in my judgement. The writing was a little weak and the acting was terrible. And I think they were asking a little too much from the technology at the time.

I do wish someone would take another stab at this style of gaming. Done well, it could be an incredible experience for the "player."
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I also added a few links here and there for how ot acquire and play these today
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Reading these, it amazes me how many games I didn't play (some I had never heard of before reading this), and yet how many I remember fondly.

Got to agree with Warcraft the orignal being so much better than the sequals, I found a demo for it on a disk on a PC magazine and the demo sucked me in to RTS games....good times.

The two games that I loved that didn't make the list were
Mines Of Titan
Covert Action

thanks for the lists, opinions and the memories it invoked.
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