WW 100: Game over! - Page 17

Lathum · 01-14-2010, 02:28 PM

I am going back to CF based on his early play and the fact I wasn't crazy about his vote late pile on vote for Render last night, it came off very much as trying to be a helpful wolf by preventing a tie.

PurdueBrad · 01-14-2010, 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by path12

BTW, that was a fabulous reveal post from Brad. I tried something like that once to show I was the seer.

And was lynched day 1.

Thanks to you and Saldana but honestly, it wasn't a big risk simply because my role is neutral. If I would've risked it or done it with a 'good' role, then it would be fabulous. I just knew that whenever I felt the need to reveal, there would be those that would question it no matter what.

hoopsguy · 01-14-2010, 02:32 PM

Guys, sorry for not getting to post more. Meetings all day and have two people shadowing me at my client site. Hate having this happen on what I think would be a very interesting day of post/vote analysis.

Darth Vilus · 01-14-2010, 02:37 PM

well yesterday really really sucked. day 4 and we're already down the bg and the seer, soo not good.

PurdueBrad · 01-14-2010, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by hoopsguy

Guys, sorry for not getting to post more. Meetings all day and have two people shadowing me at my client site. Hate having this happen on what I think would be a very interesting day of post/vote analysis.

I know that I, for one, missed having you around trying to lynch me.

hoopsguy · 01-14-2010, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by PurdueBrad

I know that I, for one, missed having you around trying to lynch me.

I'm pretty sure that I would not be doing that today.

RealDeal · 01-14-2010, 02:51 PM

vote Kwhit

unvote Kwhit

vote Kwhit

What the hell?

PurdueBrad · 01-14-2010, 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by hoopsguy

I'm pretty sure that I would not be doing that today.

I had to torture you once. Are you not entertained?

I said, are you not entertained?

KWhit · 01-14-2010, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by RealDeal

vote Kwhit

unvote Kwhit

vote Kwhit

What the hell?

Why in the world would you do that?

RealDeal · 01-14-2010, 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by KWhit

Why in the world would you do that?

Better to burn out than fade away.

KWhit · 01-14-2010, 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Lathum

I am going back to CF based on his early play and the fact I wasn't crazy about his vote late pile on vote for Render last night, it came off very much as trying to be a helpful wolf by preventing a tie.

What do you mean by this part? That you think Render is a wolf too and CF was trying to gain favor by piling on to supposedly prevent a tie?

KWhit · 01-14-2010, 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by RealDeal

Better to burn out than fade away.

But what does that gain the village? Or do you just want out of the game?

RealDeal · 01-14-2010, 02:59 PM

I don't have a useful role, and this will give us some info. Too many people who people are scared to vote for right now.

Danny · 01-14-2010, 02:59 PM

Real Deal has been killed by Kwhit, he was the love em or hate em guy and a villager.

Lathum · 01-14-2010, 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by KWhit

What do you mean by this part? That you think Render is a wolf too and CF was trying to gain favor by piling on to supposedly prevent a tie?

I don't know about Render, but CF changed his vote when everything was pretty much sown up with Render and said he was doing it to prevent a tie. Just seemed like he acting like he was trying to be helpfull when really it didn't matter.

RealDeal · 01-14-2010, 03:00 PM

Until next time, comrades.

:wave:

Lathum · 01-14-2010, 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by RealDeal

I don't have a useful role, and this will give us some info. Too many people who people are scared to vote for right now.

Except we lose 2 villagers if KWhit is a villager to learn what? Thet KWhit was a villager?

There were other ways to find out about KWhit that would have kept you alive.

CrimsonFox · 01-14-2010, 03:01 PM

Was he a villager or a wolf? Makes me think that nothing he said was true.

KWhit · 01-14-2010, 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by RealDeal

I don't have a useful role, and this will give us some info. Too many people who people are scared to vote for right now.

Grrrr....

I'm a little bummed that you did that, to be honest. You burnt my ability and killed yourself in the process. Assuming you are a villager, that's a double whammy against the village.

I already pointed out some darn good evidence (IMO, of course) as to why I am a villager as it is pretty likely that EF scanned me.

A power like mine could have been VERY useful for the village as we get closer to endgame assuming a wolf or maybe 2 voted for me the other day.

KWhit · 01-14-2010, 03:04 PM

yeah, danny... What was RD's allegiance?

Danny · 01-14-2010, 03:05 PM

Look up and its also in the 2nd post in the thread.

CrimsonFox · 01-14-2010, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Lathum

I don't know about Render, but CF changed his vote when everything was pretty much sown up with Render and said he was doing it to prevent a tie. Just seemed like he acting like he was trying to be helpfull when really it didn't matter.

Didn't change my vote at the end. I unvoted when Auatumn revealed as vampire, then I sat around thinking as I had no idea at that point who to vote for. I followed the people who said they suspected Render because I didn't want to waste my vote. Ask the render voters why they voted for him. My interretation was that he was acting un-Render and was quiet, etc.

Day 1 I was thinking a tie was a win for the villagers so we didn't vote off an innocent. But Day 2 I was of the opinion that we need to learn something from the lynch that a tie won't tell us. My vote did not affect things at all really but a tie would have been disastrous.

Lathum · 01-14-2010, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by CrimsonFox

Was he a villager or a wolf? Makes me think that nothing he said was true.

who?

Realdeal?

Why on earth would he do that as a wolf? Doing it as a villager is crazy enough

KWhit · 01-14-2010, 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by KWhit

A power like mine could have been VERY useful for the village as we get closer to endgame assuming a wolf or maybe 2 voted for me the other day.

Although now that I think about it, as time went on they'd be sure to NK me if they couldn't vote me off. But still, I totally don't understand the play. I'm not sure what kind of info he thought he would be getting.

KWhit · 01-14-2010, 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Danny

Look up and its also in the 2nd post in the thread.

Ah. I just saw the description on post 2 of the thread and it didn't specifically say villager.

KWhit · 01-14-2010, 03:09 PM

So...

We learn that I am in fact the Vengeful God (or was) and that RD was a villager.

Yay, I guess.

CrimsonFox · 01-14-2010, 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by KWhit

Ah. I just saw the description on post 2 of the thread and it didn't specifically say villager.

No it doesn't say villager. Or wolf. L/H can be a wolf. So Danny, was Realdeal a villager or a wolf? Or are you purposely not telling us because we're not allowed to know?

Lathum · 01-14-2010, 03:12 PM

We really learn nothing. All we gain is we can now lynch you in a runaway as opposed to just lynching you using all people who haven't voted you yet.

Makes no sense, but I guess we must move on.

KWhit · 01-14-2010, 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Danny

Real Deal has been killed by Kwhit, he was the love em or hate em guy and a villager.

It says so in this post.

Lathum · 01-14-2010, 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by CrimsonFox

No it doesn't say villager. Or wolf. L/H can be a wolf. So Danny, was Realdeal a villager or a wolf? Or are you purposely not telling us because we're not allowed to know?

I think anyone who isn't a wolf will just be put up there with their role. If we nab a wolf we will be told. It was established that we don't do games here where allegiance is kept hidden.

KWhit · 01-14-2010, 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Lathum

We really learn nothing. All we gain is we can now lynch you in a runaway as opposed to just lynching you using all people who haven't voted you yet.

Makes no sense, but I guess we must move on.

Yeah, I know. I was being somewhat sarcastic. But we DID learn that RD was a villager, for what it's worth.

Darth Vilus · 01-14-2010, 03:15 PM

ummm, ok. someone check to see if realdeal has eaten anything funny recently

KWhit · 01-14-2010, 03:16 PM

Actually...

On day 3, RealDeal received 3 votes:

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7 Render – (Path 610, Saldana 628, EagleFan 665, Hoopsguy 670, Henry 672, Real Deal 676, CrimsonFox 690)
2 Saldana – (Dubb 650, )*
3 RealDeal – (Darth Vilus 512, Jackal 661, PurdueBrad 687)
2 PurdueBrad – (Autumn 674, Lathum 681)
1 Henry – (ntndeacon 648)
1 Autumn – (Schmidty 511)

Now that we know he's a villager, it might be a decent starting place to consider that one of those three is a wolf. I'm going to take a look at the other days to see if we can see a pattern from one of those 3 guys.

Danny · 01-14-2010, 03:17 PM

In the second post, anyone in green is a villager, wolves will show as red, but you guys wouldn't know that yet :P

CrimsonFox · 01-14-2010, 03:20 PM

Thanks for the clarification Danny.

Ugh when people play the "total chaos" game it really screws things.

KWhit · 01-14-2010, 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by KWhit

Actually...

On day 3, RealDeal received 3 votes:

Now that we know he's a villager, it might be a decent starting place to consider that one of those three is a wolf. I'm going to take a look at the other days to see if we can see a pattern from one of those 3 guys.

Nothing too strange jumps out to me from these 3 guys. I was hoping at least one of them had a vote on a confirmed villager, but it doesn't look like it.

The Jackal's voting history doesn't look too good though. He had kind of a throw-away vote on day 1 (the only vote on PurdueBrad, bringing in the 6th candidate fairly late in the day).

Day 2 he missed his vote.

And Day 3 he voted for the now confirmed villager RD.

That's probably the worst voting record of anybody we have right now.

KWhit · 01-14-2010, 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Danny

In the second post, anyone in green is a villager, wolves will show as red, but you guys wouldn't know that yet :P

Rub it in, why don't you?

Darth Vilus · 01-14-2010, 03:28 PM

alright, the people i feel worst about are PB, Fox, and Hoops. Nothing really concrete on them, it's just mainly a feeling I have. Though those tend to be pretty close to be honest.

PB and Fox are just mainly a feeling i have, Fox more though

Hoops is mainly the fact that he is still alive this late, and the fact that he hasn't offered up anything I would consider close to nabbing a wolf. So not hoops-play.

Vote Hoops

KWhit · 01-14-2010, 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by KWhit

Nothing too strange jumps out to me from these 3 guys. I was hoping at least one of them had a vote on a confirmed villager, but it doesn't look like it.

The Jackal's voting history doesn't look too good though. He had kind of a throw-away vote on day 1 (the only vote on PurdueBrad, bringing in the 6th candidate fairly late in the day).

Day 2 he missed his vote.

And Day 3 he voted for the now confirmed villager RD.

That's probably the worst voting record of anybody we have right now.

The more I look at this, the more I'm not liking The Jackal's Day One vote. At 6:30 at night he adds a 6th candidate to the mix? Could be a wolf not willing to stick his neck out.

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(80) – DaddyTorgo votes Kwhit (Kwhit 1)
(81) – DaddyTorgo unvotes Kwhit
(113) – Lathum votes Autumn (Autumn 1)
(128) – path12 votes Darth Vilus (Autumn 1, Darth Vilus 1)
(132) – CrimsonFox votes Darth Vilus (Darth Vilus 2, Autumn 1)
(133) – hoopsguy votes path12 (Darth Vilus 2, Autumn 1, path12 1)
(140) – Darth Vilus votes CrimsonFox (Darth Vilus 2, Autumn 1, path12 1, CrimsonFox 1)
(147) – Abe Sargent votes hoopsguy (Darth Vilus 2, Autumn 1, path 12 1, CrimsonFox 1, hoopsguy 1)
(149) – The Jackal votes PurdueBrad (Darth Vilus 2, Autumn 1, path12 1, CrimsonFox 1, hoopsguy 1, PurdueBrad 1)
(150) – RealDeal votes hoopsguy (Darth Vilus 2, hoopsguy 2, Autumn 1, path12 1, CrimsonFox 1, PurdueBrad 1)
(151) – Autumn votes DaddyTorgo (Darth Vilus 2, hoopsguy 2, Autumn 1, path12 1, CrimsonFox 1, PurdueBrad 1, DaddyTorgo 1)
(156) – saldana votes dubb93 (Darth Vilus 2, hoopsguy 2, Autumn 1, path12 1, CrimsonFox 1, PurdueBrad 1, DaddyTorgo 1, dubb93 1)
(158) – Schmidty votes dubb93 (Darth Vilus 2, hoopsguy 2, dubb93 2, Autumn 1, path12 1, CrimsonFox 1, PurdueBrad 1, DaddyTorgo 1)
(159) – henry296 votes DaddyTorgo (Darth Vilus 2, hoopsguy 2, dubb93 2, DaddyTorgo 2, Autumn 1, path12 1, CrimsonFox 1, PurdueBrad 1)
(162) – EagleFan votes DaddyTorgo (DaddyTorgo 3, Darth Vilus 2, hoopsguy 2, dubb93 2, Autumn 1, path12 1, CrimsonFox 1, PurdueBrad 1)
(163) – RendeR votes hoopsguy (DaddyTorgo 3, hoopsguy 3, Darth Vilus 2, dubb93 2, Autumn 1, path12 1, CrimsonFox 1, PurdueBrad 1)
(168) – Kwhit voted DaddyTorgo (DaddyTorgo 4, hoopsguy 3, Darth Vilus 2, dubb93 2, Autumn 1, path12 1, CrimsonFox 1, PurdueBrad 1)
(169) – PurdueBrad votes hoopsguy (DaddyTorgo 4, hoopsguy 4, Darth Vilus 2, dubb93 2, Autumn 1, path12 1, CrimsonFox 1, PurdueBrad 1)
(173) – Lathum unvotes Autumn, votes DaddyTorgo (DaddyTorgo 5, hoopsguy 4, Darth Vilus 2, dubb93 2, path12 1, CrimsonFox 1, PurdueBrad 1)

It's not much, but it's more than I have on anyone else at the moment.

VOTE THE JACKAL

PurdueBrad · 01-14-2010, 03:39 PM

So where are we at, 1 on Hoops, 1 on CF, and 1 on Jackal?

Hmmm...

Real Deal, I had considered doing the same thing you did so I thank you. If KWhit would ever turn out to be a wolf, that power would've been almost unbeatable. And I agree with what KWhit said, he likely would've been a NK because of that.

Poli · 01-14-2010, 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Danny

In the second post, anyone in green is a villager, wolves will show as red, but you guys wouldn't know that yet :P

Why wouldn't they? Oh...

CrimsonFox · 01-14-2010, 03:41 PM

Actually since wolf Saldana did his daily voting two-step, I think I have 2 on me now.

Bluffing Governor or not, I think Saldana is a wolf.

CrimsonFox · 01-14-2010, 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by PurdueBrad

So where are we at, 1 on Hoops, 1 on CF, and 1 on Jackal?

Hmmm...

Real Deal, I had considered doing the same thing you did so I thank you. If KWhit would ever turn out to be a wolf, that power would've been almost unbeatable. And I agree with what KWhit said, he likely would've been a NK because of that.

I was actually thinking Realdeal did it as a wolf to sacrifice himself for the other wolves and throw everyone off the track. But it seems just a random act of chaos. :P

KWhit · 01-14-2010, 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by CrimsonFox

Actually since wolf Saldana did his daily voting two-step, I think I have 2 on me now.

Bluffing Governor or not, I think Saldana is a wolf.

I doubt he's lying about being the Governor. But he could still be a wolf.

CrimsonFox · 01-14-2010, 03:44 PM

vote Saldana

Autumn · 01-14-2010, 03:59 PM

What would have been smart is to have the Survivor double vote the Vengeful God. That would have been smart of us. ;-)

Well, at least we can feel free to vote for KWhit. OUt of the two I'm more likely to vote PB just based on the voting analysis i did before. A lot of people would have to be bad for KWhit to be bad, I think, less so PB.

The Jackal · 01-14-2010, 04:14 PM

Unfortunately I will be leaving in an hour and out past the deadline, so if you are going to lynch me based on my crappy internet and availability, so be it. I didn't know what the vote count was when i voted for PB day 1, you know what happened day 2 with my cable company, and day 3 i went for RD because I felt there was a solid chance he was revealing a villager role as a wolf, but it's true he wasn't under any pressure to reveal.

Anyways, gonna shower then get a vote out.

Autumn · 01-14-2010, 04:28 PM

Earlier in the game people were saying that the vengeful god must be a wolf since a villager would have revealed earlier and avoid bedlam. KWhit claims he did not because he wanted to keep himself from getting lynched. What do we now think of this claim? Despite some things in his favor, doesn't not revealing a role like that count as a big dark strike?

There are too many suspects to count. I think I may concentrate on KWhit, PB and CF as I think they give us the most information in a lynch.

The Jackal · 01-14-2010, 04:32 PM

I agree, people were harping on that fact earlier and it hasn't really been mentioned since KWhit revealed, has it?

CrimsonFox · 01-14-2010, 04:44 PM

If I am killed today or tonight, Ghostwhisperer please talk to me.

01-14-2010, 02:37 PM	#804
Darth Vilus College Benchwarmer Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: SoCal	well yesterday really really sucked. day 4 and we're already down the bg and the seer, soo not good. __________________ "Two there should be; no more, no less. One to embody power, the other to crave it." ―Darth Bane "Tell me what you regard as your greatest strength, so I will know how best to undermine you; tell me of your greatest fear, so I will know which I must force you to face; tell me what you cherish most, so I will know what to take from you; and tell me what you crave, so that I might deny you…" ―Darth Plagueis the Wise

01-14-2010, 02:59 PM	#814
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	Real Deal has been killed by Kwhit, he was the love em or hate em guy and a villager. Last edited by Danny : 01-14-2010 at 03:04 PM.

01-14-2010, 03:15 PM	#832
Darth Vilus College Benchwarmer Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: SoCal	ummm, ok. someone check to see if realdeal has eaten anything funny recently __________________ "Two there should be; no more, no less. One to embody power, the other to crave it." ―Darth Bane "Tell me what you regard as your greatest strength, so I will know how best to undermine you; tell me of your greatest fear, so I will know which I must force you to face; tell me what you cherish most, so I will know what to take from you; and tell me what you crave, so that I might deny you…" ―Darth Plagueis the Wise

01-14-2010, 03:28 PM	#838
Darth Vilus College Benchwarmer Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: SoCal	alright, the people i feel worst about are PB, Fox, and Hoops. Nothing really concrete on them, it's just mainly a feeling I have. Though those tend to be pretty close to be honest. PB and Fox are just mainly a feeling i have, Fox more though Hoops is mainly the fact that he is still alive this late, and the fact that he hasn't offered up anything I would consider close to nabbing a wolf. So not hoops-play. Vote Hoops __________________ "Two there should be; no more, no less. One to embody power, the other to crave it." ―Darth Bane "Tell me what you regard as your greatest strength, so I will know how best to undermine you; tell me of your greatest fear, so I will know which I must force you to face; tell me what you cherish most, so I will know what to take from you; and tell me what you crave, so that I might deny you…" ―Darth Plagueis the Wise

01-14-2010, 02:28 PM	#801
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	I am going back to CF based on his early play and the fact I wasn't crazy about his vote late pile on vote for Render last night, it came off very much as trying to be a helpful wolf by preventing a tie.

01-14-2010, 02:32 PM	#803
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	Guys, sorry for not getting to post more. Meetings all day and have two people shadowing me at my client site. Hate having this happen on what I think would be a very interesting day of post/vote analysis.

01-14-2010, 02:51 PM	#807
RealDeal High School Varsity Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: here	vote Kwhit unvote Kwhit vote Kwhit What the hell?

01-14-2010, 02:59 PM	#813
RealDeal High School Varsity Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: here	I don't have a useful role, and this will give us some info. Too many people who people are scared to vote for right now.

01-14-2010, 03:00 PM	#816
RealDeal High School Varsity Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: here	Until next time, comrades. :wave:

01-14-2010, 03:01 PM	#818
CrimsonFox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2009	Was he a villager or a wolf? Makes me think that nothing he said was true.

01-14-2010, 03:04 PM	#820
KWhit Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Conyers GA	yeah, danny... What was RD's allegiance?

01-14-2010, 03:05 PM	#821
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	Look up and its also in the 2nd post in the thread.

01-14-2010, 03:09 PM	#826
KWhit Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Conyers GA	So... We learn that I am in fact the Vengeful God (or was) and that RD was a villager. Yay, I guess.

01-14-2010, 03:12 PM	#828
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	We really learn nothing. All we gain is we can now lynch you in a runaway as opposed to just lynching you using all people who haven't voted you yet. Makes no sense, but I guess we must move on.

01-14-2010, 03:17 PM	#834
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	In the second post, anyone in green is a villager, wolves will show as red, but you guys wouldn't know that yet :P

01-14-2010, 03:20 PM	#835
CrimsonFox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2009	Thanks for the clarification Danny. Ugh when people play the "total chaos" game it really screws things.

01-14-2010, 03:39 PM	#840
PurdueBrad Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: DeKalb, IL	So where are we at, 1 on Hoops, 1 on CF, and 1 on Jackal? Hmmm... Real Deal, I had considered doing the same thing you did so I thank you. If KWhit would ever turn out to be a wolf, that power would've been almost unbeatable. And I agree with what KWhit said, he likely would've been a NK because of that.

01-14-2010, 03:41 PM	#842
CrimsonFox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2009	Actually since wolf Saldana did his daily voting two-step, I think I have 2 on me now. Bluffing Governor or not, I think Saldana is a wolf.

01-14-2010, 03:44 PM	#845
CrimsonFox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2009	vote Saldana

01-14-2010, 03:59 PM	#846
Autumn Head Coach Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Bath, ME	What would have been smart is to have the Survivor double vote the Vengeful God. That would have been smart of us. ;-) Well, at least we can feel free to vote for KWhit. OUt of the two I'm more likely to vote PB just based on the voting analysis i did before. A lot of people would have to be bad for KWhit to be bad, I think, less so PB.

01-14-2010, 04:14 PM	#847
The Jackal Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: New Hampshire	Unfortunately I will be leaving in an hour and out past the deadline, so if you are going to lynch me based on my crappy internet and availability, so be it. I didn't know what the vote count was when i voted for PB day 1, you know what happened day 2 with my cable company, and day 3 i went for RD because I felt there was a solid chance he was revealing a villager role as a wolf, but it's true he wasn't under any pressure to reveal. Anyways, gonna shower then get a vote out.

01-14-2010, 04:28 PM	#848
Autumn Head Coach Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Bath, ME	Earlier in the game people were saying that the vengeful god must be a wolf since a villager would have revealed earlier and avoid bedlam. KWhit claims he did not because he wanted to keep himself from getting lynched. What do we now think of this claim? Despite some things in his favor, doesn't not revealing a role like that count as a big dark strike? There are too many suspects to count. I think I may concentrate on KWhit, PB and CF as I think they give us the most information in a lynch.

01-14-2010, 04:32 PM	#849
The Jackal Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: New Hampshire	I agree, people were harping on that fact earlier and it hasn't really been mentioned since KWhit revealed, has it?

01-14-2010, 04:44 PM	#850
CrimsonFox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2009	If I am killed today or tonight, Ghostwhisperer please talk to me.

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