WW CXXVI: Wolves in Asgard - Game Over (Result in Post 2538) - Page 53

JAG · 08-17-2011, 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Thomkal

oh my god, I was going crazy trying to figure that out! You just got my vote on day 1 if/when I play again, lol.

I saw you guys talking about that, but I must've missed what he said because I had no idea what the heck you were going on about.

Thomkal · 08-17-2011, 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Zinto

No I guess it was just a good observation by you that I put the vote on right after Racer did even though I have no idea what was going on in my head at that point in the game.

yeah that first time wolf thing is tough especially when you are the big baddie himself. I thought you might have tried to get me lynched after I called you on that. My less than stellar voting didn't help matters either. I was thinking you were going after J23 because he was connected to Chubby somehow and killing him might do something to Chubby.

Thomkal · 08-17-2011, 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by MrBug708

This is the first game that I've made it to the end alive and our side has won. Probably out of 25 some odd games

Congrats

Autumn · 08-17-2011, 09:57 PM

I like the idea of having the wolves try to hit the cycle, setting their kill order ahead of time, JAG. That's a fun twist.

Thomkal · 08-17-2011, 09:58 PM

Oh meant to mention that I liked the Valhalla concept-giving us vanilla villagers a chance to still participate and discuss the game, even if none of us made it there to till Day 4.

More games should have this kind of concept I think.

Autumn · 08-17-2011, 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Thomkal

Oh meant to mention that I liked the Valhalla concept-giving us vanilla villagers a chance to still participate and discuss the game, even if none of us made it there to till Day 4.

More games should have this kind of concept I think.

Yeah, I think it's a nice way to work that concept in. In the Amazing Race game having villagers hang around was maybe too powerful. Thi sis a nice way to harness that, but mediate the power. I'm definitely going to consider this mechanic as a way of doing something like that in other games where I've considered having a "hades" type thread.

JAG · 08-17-2011, 10:04 PM

Valhalla was one of the things I most enjoyed about the rules I made up. It was basically like having an in-game speculation thread for dead villagers and giving vanilla villagers additional chances to influence the outcome of the game. Though fooey on you all for waiting so long to kill off the vanillas.

EagleFan · 08-17-2011, 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Autumn

Yeah, I think it's a nice way to work that concept in. In the Amazing Race game having villagers hang around was maybe too powerful.

But the wolves won that game so it couldn't have been that overpowered for the village.

JAG · 08-17-2011, 10:10 PM

The write-ups gave hints as to what wolves performed the killing. Large blunt force object was Utgaard-Loki, the dagger and sneak killing was Loki, and mau had the 'natural death' one (it took that long for him to have a kill because N2 he was blocked and N4 he only damaged Chubby).

Autumn · 08-17-2011, 10:17 PM

Narc guessed that was Hel's touch, his death. Good catch by him. I read too much into the sneak attack though, assuming that meant two different wolves had attacked.

mckerney · 08-17-2011, 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Zinto

McKerney you kicked my butt. I was so afraid you where going to scan me and if I ended up lynched the next day Mau's sword would have ended up in a villagers hand(most likely) and we would have lost. I panicked and we lost hahah

I was planning the move all day, but I really didn't think it was going to work. I added the stuff about thinking I was safe because Loki had used an attack last night, but I was still thinking to myself, "There's no way they'll buy this, I'm practically begging Loki to attack me." I was expecting to be dead from the attack of one of the other wolves, but was very happy upon finding out I'd made my semi fake reveal believable enough.

mauchow · 08-17-2011, 10:22 PM

Zinto and I chatted on AIM for about an hour and a half last night on what we should end up doing. It was racer all night until you came along and wrecked our plans. Zinto got to licking his chops and wanted you badly.

It was destiny I guess.

EagleFan · 08-17-2011, 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by mckerney

I was planning the move all day, but I really didn't think it was going to work. I added the stuff about thinking I was safe because Loki had used an attack last night, but I was still thinking to myself, "There's no way they'll buy this, I'm practically begging Loki to attack me." I was expecting to be dead from the attack of one of the other wolves, but was very happy upon finding out I'd made my semi fake reveal believable enough.

MVP!!!

mckerney · 08-17-2011, 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by EagleFan

MVP!!!

Thanks! I certainly wasn't helping much tracking the wolves down, so I had to come up with some way to help the villager.

mckerney · 08-17-2011, 10:29 PM

I was mostly honest in my role reveal, I just made of the protection from vanilla wolves and left out the item stuff. Oh, and the part about killing Loki was obviously omitted.

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Originally Posted by JAG

You are Heimdall, the Watchman of the Gods and guardian of the Bifrost Rainbow Bridge to Asgard. Your powers of observation are far beyond that of any other, even Loki himself cannot fool you. As Loki's sworn enemy and as you are fated to slay him during Ragnarok, each night you may scan one player to determine if they are Loki. You are also immune to Loki's powers and if Loki attempts to night kill you, he will be successful but you will kill him as well. You will be aware of who passes you an item in the event that you receive one.

MrBug708 · 08-17-2011, 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by mauboy1

Zinto and I chatted on AIM for about an hour and a half last night on what we should end up doing. It was racer all night until you came along and wrecked our plans. Zinto got to licking his chops and wanted you badly.

It was destiny I guess.

You would have randomized the mistletoe

J23 · 08-17-2011, 11:17 PM

When Narc was killed and was a villager, I still thought he must have really been Loki, and one of his abilities was to fake his death. I could have sworn that Narc had posted that he sent me Odin's Spear night one at some point, but I never saw it, and didn't get an item until Hoops sent me the mistletoe night3(?).

Danny · 08-18-2011, 12:52 AM

I was pretty happy with how I thought my fake reveal was going to work out. Initially it was going to buy me a couple days, and then when Chubby revealed, it was going to get me killed, but we assumed I could brutal Thor and then night kill J23 and remove two more roled players and be in a pretty good position even down one wolf. The brutal going to bh ended up costing the wolves two night kills.

CrimsonFox · 08-18-2011, 12:59 AM

Why did you kill dubb and then j23. That was so .... odd. Because of that I was totally thinking that jeheinz or barkeep were wolves.

CrimsonFox · 08-18-2011, 01:52 AM

Congrats on your first game JAG. Was sensational!

Danny · 08-18-2011, 02:13 AM

Dubb was my call. I wanted him out of the game. No idea he was the seer and I knew it would reflect bad on me, but I was already done fairly early at that point. When someone is on like that, you want him dead.

Danny · 08-18-2011, 02:14 AM

Plus I didn't know Chubby would switch last minute, so especially thinking I might be dead then, Dubb would have been very trusted.

Narcizo · 08-18-2011, 02:24 AM

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Originally Posted by J23

When Narc was killed and was a villager, I still thought he must have really been Loki, and one of his abilities was to fake his death. I could have sworn that Narc had posted that he sent me Odin's Spear night one at some point, but I never saw it, and didn't get an item until Hoops sent me the mistletoe night3(?).

I did. I think the item disappears when the correct owner of the item dies.

Bit shocked that Hoops wasn't a baddy and that there wasn't one.

I think Racer had a very good game for the village, no disrespect to mckerney's awesome play that, basically, blew the game open when it needed it the most, but I consider him MVP. I think the fact that he's the villager who was trusted the most without having a role at the end speaks of how well he played.

Loki had a lot of great powers. Would have been fun/uber-stressful to play. I think the problem with giving one player so many powers is that it adds a large degree of randomness into the game. I think a stronger conversion ability (something along the lines of Loki having a chance of swapping with a live player if they are vanilla) or weaker powers but a 5th baddy would have worked. But this was a fun game and a lot of the breaks went against the wolves so who knows.

Not the most inspiring performance by me all told. At least I voted Darth on day three - apart from that probably more of a hinder than a benefit to the good guys.

Lathum · 08-18-2011, 05:12 AM

I wonder if chubby still thinks I'm a wolf?

jeheinz72 · 08-18-2011, 06:50 AM

Woo hoo! Winnah winnah chicken dinnah!

I played like shit but who cares I was alive for the win!

Telle · 08-18-2011, 08:43 AM

Good game all!! Was a lot of fun to play this one.

The Jackal · 08-18-2011, 08:44 AM

Seemed like a very fun game. The Valhalla speculation PMs was definitely a cool touch, even though we really didn't have any info to pass along.

Autumn · 08-18-2011, 10:15 AM

Yes, Racer played great, very clear thinking, I loved the way he put his notes together.

Telle, it was great to have you right in the thick of things. I was worried that maybe you were being more active because you were a wolf! But you added a lot to the game. If only Thomkal or NTN were bad, we would have looked genius!

Telle · 08-18-2011, 10:45 AM

I know.. can't believe that we had three villagers on the block two days in a row that far in!

Autumn · 08-18-2011, 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Telle

I know.. can't believe that we had three villagers on the block two days in a row that far in!

That was a real bummer, because I think you and I did well to recognize each other as villagers, and sway the vote. If only we'd had someone to sway the vote to.

jeheinz72 · 08-18-2011, 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Autumn

That was a real bummer, because I think you and I did well to recognize each other as villagers, and sway the vote. If only we'd had someone to sway the vote to.

Agreed, I was pretty confident you were both acting honestly. But yeah, fat lot of good that did me in my actual vote.

Autumn · 08-18-2011, 11:01 AM

Oh, and i know Hoops thought I was crazy to vote myself at the very end that night. I just wanted to point out that I didn't do so until deadline, it wasn't a ploy to get votes off me. But I knew i was vanilla, with no items. NTN hadn't been around all day, and I didn't want a last second tie to go to him only to find out he was important or had an item or some such.

Thomkal · 08-18-2011, 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Lathum

I wonder if chubby still thinks I'm a wolf?

I do! But hey you got your revenge on me in the end.

Thomkal · 08-18-2011, 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Telle

Good game all!! Was a lot of fun to play this one.

It was great to see you be more active than normal here Telle, though perhaps being on the block forever had something to do with that. was great to see and chat with when we were both on the block.

Thomkal · 08-18-2011, 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by The Jackal

Seemed like a very fun game. The Valhalla speculation PMs was definitely a cool touch, even though we really didn't have any info to pass along.

The Jackal has the "honor" I believe of being the first person to replace a "dead" player and still be active in the game.

Thanks for jumping in to help us out at the end there.

Thomkal · 08-18-2011, 11:34 AM

And if/when I play again, just remember when there's been absolutely no one making posts trying to defend me or vote switches to save me (well the votes on Telle there late perhaps an exception) as its been the last two games I've been on the block it really does mean I'm a villager-so please remember that!

CrimsonFox · 08-18-2011, 02:41 PM

Anyone who wants to be amused by me talking to myself can visit JAG's forum. I think JAG has to move the thread to PREVIOUS GAMES right?

Chubby · 08-18-2011, 04:13 PM

YAY we won!

CrimsonFox · 08-18-2011, 04:15 PM

This is actually the most active game I've ever seen right out of the gate. Ever day lots going on.

Danny · 08-18-2011, 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by CrimsonFox

This is actually the most active game I've ever seen right out of the gate. Ever day lots going on.

Yes, very active. Not quite up to the level of Hoops' marvel game or spawn 3, but the most active I think we've had since then. Though my Group Therapy game as really active as well.

Barkeep49 · 08-18-2011, 04:34 PM

I just want to say that I feel really good about my play as a vanilla villager this game. I attracted enough attention that the wolves never tried to kill me, but not so much attention that I got lynched. I was 100% in telling the truth from the lies with role reveals. Now granted I drew the wrong conclusions from mckerney's lies (what a great move btw) but at least I knew he was lying.

Danny · 08-18-2011, 04:49 PM

Yeah you played a strong game BK

CrimsonFox · 08-18-2011, 05:24 PM

There is an amusing comment about you toward the end of the thread in JAG's forum, barkeep

Barkeep49 · 08-18-2011, 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by CrimsonFox

There is an amusing comment about you toward the end of the thread in JAG's forum, barkeep

Absolutely a wolf, huh

?

Barkeep49 · 08-18-2011, 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Danny

Yes, very active. Not quite up to the level of Hoops' marvel game or spawn 3, but the most active I think we've had since then. Though my Group Therapy game as really active as well.

Damn you. I started re-reading Spawn 3. I love that rule set.

CrimsonFox · 08-18-2011, 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Barkeep49

Absolutely a wolf, huh

?

which explains my break from being a player.

Danny · 08-18-2011, 06:18 PM

Yes, I missed Spawn 1 and 2 as I didn't start playing WW yet, but I loved Spawn 3.

Autumn · 08-18-2011, 06:29 PM

You were so spot on, BK, you had me convinced you must be a wolf. Seriously, the way you were all over Danny from the first moment felt like too much to me. You were absolutely right, and I agreed with you about Danny's reveal, but you seemed so sure, and so determined to paint the rest of us as going along with him, that I felt you must be trying to game something.

I guess next time I'll just have to remember that's your villager stance ;-)

Barkeep49 · 08-18-2011, 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Autumn

You were so spot on, BK, you had me convinced you must be a wolf. Seriously, the way you were all over Danny from the first moment felt like too much to me. You were absolutely right, and I agreed with you about Danny's reveal, but you seemed so sure, and so determined to paint the rest of us as going along with him, that I felt you must be trying to game something.

I guess next time I'll just have to remember that's your villager stance ;-)

I have spent a lot of time thinking about game design and that role just didn't make sense. I think next game I'm going to try and play closer to how I played in later days when I pushed but with a different style. So when I show up slightly kinder and gentler don't lynch me

Autumn · 08-18-2011, 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Barkeep49

I have spent a lot of time thinking about game design and that role just didn't make sense. I think next game I'm going to try and play closer to how I played in later days when I pushed but with a different style. So when I show up slightly kinder and gentler don't lynch me

Already making excuses.

vote barkeep49

Seriously, I need to tinker my playing style also, obviously. I'm not particularly good at analysis but I try to keep posting and thinking in thread, to at least keep things rolling. But it doesn't help if it distracts the village. I will be going for more thoughtful I think, less voluminous.

08-18-2011, 04:34 PM	#2641
Barkeep49 Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Not too far away	I just want to say that I feel really good about my play as a vanilla villager this game. I attracted enough attention that the wolves never tried to kill me, but not so much attention that I got lynched. I was 100% in telling the truth from the lies with role reveals. Now granted I drew the wrong conclusions from mckerney's lies (what a great move btw) but at least I knew he was lying. Last edited by Barkeep49 : 08-18-2011 at 04:35 PM.

08-17-2011, 09:57 PM	#2604
Autumn Head Coach Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Bath, ME	I like the idea of having the wolves try to hit the cycle, setting their kill order ahead of time, JAG. That's a fun twist.

08-17-2011, 09:58 PM	#2605
Thomkal Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Surfside Beach,SC USA	Oh meant to mention that I liked the Valhalla concept-giving us vanilla villagers a chance to still participate and discuss the game, even if none of us made it there to till Day 4. More games should have this kind of concept I think.

08-17-2011, 10:04 PM	#2607
JAG Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: St. Paul, MN	Valhalla was one of the things I most enjoyed about the rules I made up. It was basically like having an in-game speculation thread for dead villagers and giving vanilla villagers additional chances to influence the outcome of the game. Though fooey on you all for waiting so long to kill off the vanillas.

08-17-2011, 10:10 PM	#2609
JAG Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: St. Paul, MN	The write-ups gave hints as to what wolves performed the killing. Large blunt force object was Utgaard-Loki, the dagger and sneak killing was Loki, and mau had the 'natural death' one (it took that long for him to have a kill because N2 he was blocked and N4 he only damaged Chubby).

08-17-2011, 10:17 PM	#2610
Autumn Head Coach Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Bath, ME	Narc guessed that was Hel's touch, his death. Good catch by him. I read too much into the sneak attack though, assuming that meant two different wolves had attacked.

08-17-2011, 10:22 PM	#2612
mauchow Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Murfreesboro, TN	Zinto and I chatted on AIM for about an hour and a half last night on what we should end up doing. It was racer all night until you came along and wrecked our plans. Zinto got to licking his chops and wanted you badly. It was destiny I guess.

08-17-2011, 11:17 PM	#2617
J23 College Benchwarmer Join Date: Jul 2009	When Narc was killed and was a villager, I still thought he must have really been Loki, and one of his abilities was to fake his death. I could have sworn that Narc had posted that he sent me Odin's Spear night one at some point, but I never saw it, and didn't get an item until Hoops sent me the mistletoe night3(?).

08-18-2011, 12:52 AM	#2618
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	I was pretty happy with how I thought my fake reveal was going to work out. Initially it was going to buy me a couple days, and then when Chubby revealed, it was going to get me killed, but we assumed I could brutal Thor and then night kill J23 and remove two more roled players and be in a pretty good position even down one wolf. The brutal going to bh ended up costing the wolves two night kills.

08-18-2011, 12:59 AM	#2619
CrimsonFox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2009	Why did you kill dubb and then j23. That was so .... odd. Because of that I was totally thinking that jeheinz or barkeep were wolves.

08-18-2011, 01:52 AM	#2620
CrimsonFox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2009	Congrats on your first game JAG. Was sensational!

08-18-2011, 02:13 AM	#2621
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	Dubb was my call. I wanted him out of the game. No idea he was the seer and I knew it would reflect bad on me, but I was already done fairly early at that point. When someone is on like that, you want him dead.

08-18-2011, 02:14 AM	#2622
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	Plus I didn't know Chubby would switch last minute, so especially thinking I might be dead then, Dubb would have been very trusted.

08-18-2011, 05:12 AM	#2624
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	I wonder if chubby still thinks I'm a wolf?

08-18-2011, 08:43 AM	#2626
Telle College Starter Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Buffalo, NY	Good game all!! Was a lot of fun to play this one.

08-18-2011, 08:44 AM	#2627
The Jackal Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: New Hampshire	Seemed like a very fun game. The Valhalla speculation PMs was definitely a cool touch, even though we really didn't have any info to pass along.

08-18-2011, 10:15 AM	#2628
Autumn Head Coach Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Bath, ME	Yes, Racer played great, very clear thinking, I loved the way he put his notes together. Telle, it was great to have you right in the thick of things. I was worried that maybe you were being more active because you were a wolf! But you added a lot to the game. If only Thomkal or NTN were bad, we would have looked genius!

08-18-2011, 10:45 AM	#2629
Telle College Starter Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Buffalo, NY	I know.. can't believe that we had three villagers on the block two days in a row that far in!

08-18-2011, 11:01 AM	#2632
Autumn Head Coach Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Bath, ME	Oh, and i know Hoops thought I was crazy to vote myself at the very end that night. I just wanted to point out that I didn't do so until deadline, it wasn't a ploy to get votes off me. But I knew i was vanilla, with no items. NTN hadn't been around all day, and I didn't want a last second tie to go to him only to find out he was important or had an item or some such.

08-18-2011, 11:34 AM	#2636
Thomkal Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Surfside Beach,SC USA	And if/when I play again, just remember when there's been absolutely no one making posts trying to defend me or vote switches to save me (well the votes on Telle there late perhaps an exception) as its been the last two games I've been on the block it really does mean I'm a villager-so please remember that!

08-18-2011, 02:41 PM	#2637
CrimsonFox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2009	Anyone who wants to be amused by me talking to myself can visit JAG's forum. I think JAG has to move the thread to PREVIOUS GAMES right?

08-18-2011, 04:13 PM	#2638
Chubby Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Syracuse, NY	YAY we won!

08-18-2011, 04:15 PM	#2639
CrimsonFox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2009	This is actually the most active game I've ever seen right out of the gate. Ever day lots going on.

08-18-2011, 04:49 PM	#2642
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	Yeah you played a strong game BK

08-18-2011, 05:24 PM	#2643
CrimsonFox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2009	There is an amusing comment about you toward the end of the thread in JAG's forum, barkeep

08-18-2011, 06:18 PM	#2647
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	Yes, I missed Spawn 1 and 2 as I didn't start playing WW yet, but I loved Spawn 3.

08-18-2011, 06:29 PM	#2648
Autumn Head Coach Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Bath, ME	You were so spot on, BK, you had me convinced you must be a wolf. Seriously, the way you were all over Danny from the first moment felt like too much to me. You were absolutely right, and I agreed with you about Danny's reveal, but you seemed so sure, and so determined to paint the rest of us as going along with him, that I felt you must be trying to game something. I guess next time I'll just have to remember that's your villager stance ;-)

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