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Old 04-21-2008, 05:12 PM   #201
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wow, let get this kwhit guy! hes just howling at the moon now!
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Old 04-21-2008, 05:12 PM   #202
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Hey claphamsa!

Care to move your vote?

(It worked once)

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Old 04-21-2008, 05:12 PM   #203
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wow, let get this kwhit guy! hes just howling at the moon now!

Hey. Naw man!

That's just my stomach rumbling.
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Old 04-21-2008, 05:14 PM   #204
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I am now convinced that my theory holds true. In general, the more you post, the more likely you are to be lynched.
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Old 04-21-2008, 05:15 PM   #205
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I am now convinced that my theory holds true. In general, the more you post, the more likely you are to be lynched.

Not meant to imply that this was some sort of experiment or anything like that, but I did consciously tell myself that I'd try a little different style this time. Just for fun. Looks like it will probably get me lynched.
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Old 04-21-2008, 05:22 PM   #206
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I am now convinced that my theory holds true. In general, the more you post, the more likely you are to be lynched.

Then explain how the guy you're tied with is....ntndeacon.
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Old 04-21-2008, 05:24 PM   #207
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Then explain how the guy you're tied with is....ntndeacon.

I suppose both extremes are targets. But the only time I've ever caught early heat like this is when I post a bunch.
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Old 04-21-2008, 05:25 PM   #208
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I am now convinced that my theory holds true. In general, the more you post, the more likely you are to be lynched.

I actually think that the conversation drivers day 1 are less likely to be lynched than most. However, killing everyone as the wolf nobody saw last game increases one's chances greatly......
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Old 04-21-2008, 05:27 PM   #209
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I actually think that the conversation drivers day 1 are less likely to be lynched than most. However, killing everyone as the wolf nobody saw last game increases one's chances greatly......

That could be part of it.

I think I still have some villager stuck in my teeth.

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Old 04-21-2008, 05:30 PM   #210
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That could be part of it.

I think I still have some villager stuck in my teeth.


Makes more sense to me. It seems like most of your posts have come after you've taken heat. Anyway..

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Old 04-21-2008, 05:34 PM   #211
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Hey BK, disappointed you aren't my lover this game? Yeah, that's right, I leave 'em satisfied.
SHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEET that green is hard to read.
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Old 04-21-2008, 07:23 PM   #212
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Checking in.

Lots of post overnight. Not really much of anything happening either.

Catching up, and have been too.
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Old 04-21-2008, 07:23 PM   #213
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Vote nfg22.
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Old 04-21-2008, 08:06 PM   #214
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whens deadline?
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Old 04-21-2008, 08:08 PM   #215
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Old 04-21-2008, 08:41 PM   #216
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Is that in 13 hours time?
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Old 04-21-2008, 08:43 PM   #217
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Old 04-21-2008, 08:53 PM   #218
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Old 04-21-2008, 09:01 PM   #219
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Just read everything, you people ramble on about some really inane shit.

How do you think we made the last game so long?!

Ok, I forgot my laptop power cord today so this is the first time I've really been able to read the thread. An interesting batch of reasoning since the only clue was the existence of an alpha wolf!

Almost done, no real idea who to vote for. I should be able to check in in the morning before class and then I get to work around 15 minutes before deadline.
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Old 04-21-2008, 09:23 PM   #220
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So, on this day, is there just one wolf or have the others already been selected?

Either way, even with the good reasoning being done, I'm not sure how we'll figure one out. For now, I'm inclined to spread the vote out. If anyone doesn't really like that, I'll (hopefully) be able to read about it in the morning and consider a switch.

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Old 04-21-2008, 09:29 PM   #221
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So, on this day, is there just one wolf or have the others already been selected?

Either way, even with the good reasoning being done, I'm not sure how we'll figure one out. For now, I'm inclined to spread the vote out. If anyone doesn't really like that, I'll (hopefully) be able to read about it in the morning and consider a switch.

Vote TheJackal

My understanding of how this works, and Neon can correct me if wrong, is that he contacted the Alpha yesterday and got their picks for the wolves before assigning the rest of the roles and sending PM's.

Is that correct, Neon? I assume so because if not you could have something like the seer being picked as a wolf.
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Old 04-21-2008, 09:48 PM   #222
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I don't know if I'll be around before 10, so I better get in a vote.

Vote Pass

Only because he seems a decent choice as a wolf.
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Old 04-21-2008, 10:06 PM   #223
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A lot of interesting posts so far but still nothing that stands out wolfish yet. Well, some things do a little but they seem a little too overly wolfish, like some vote changes.

As for my vote, still no reason. Just want to see how things pan out.
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Old 04-21-2008, 10:25 PM   #224
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Actually, that je-heinz guy may be onto something here....

Unvote Passacaglia
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of course with randomness of roles this could just as easily cost us an important role. I mean vanilla is important too. it makes the chocolate syrup taste even better. (sorry but has I ce cream in front of me hence the lame vanilla joke)
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Old 04-21-2008, 10:28 PM   #225
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well iguess Ineed to do this.
Vote KWhit

For the rest of you voting for me...get your lupine paws on someone else...or are you working with the wolves?
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Old 04-21-2008, 10:34 PM   #226
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anyone have a count?
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Old 04-21-2008, 10:45 PM   #227
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Current Count:

Taking this count and updating with page 5:

jeheinz72 (1) -- Narcizo (170)
KWhit (4) -- claphamsa (94), Lathum (164), nfg22 (181), ntndeacon (225)
ntndeacon (4) -- PurdueBrad (75), jeheinz72 (194), KWhit (199), Passacaglia (210)
Passacaglia (3) -- path12 (136), RendeR (163), Jackal (222)
claphamsa (1) -- ImTheCrew (153)
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Old 04-21-2008, 11:56 PM   #228
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Vote nfg22.

can I get a reason sir? I mean come on...I defended you last game. Not that I care because Im not under much heat but really gimme something to defend. I hate not having a reason to post.
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Old 04-22-2008, 02:02 AM   #229
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Some interesting stuff going on to look at there. Seems as though everyone has voted, which is great. My vote looks to be pretty useless at the moment so I'll need to move it to one of the three main candidates.

Of the three main candidates I think KWhit is acting the most wolfishly. Obviously. Not so much the jokey references to his being a wolf more the fact that it looks like he was fishing for an alternative lynch candidate and followed Heinz on to one. However that was pretty blatent which seems unlikely for an experienced wolf. Except, of course, an experienced wolf would reckon with people thinking that and etc etc... As a high profile winning wolf in recent memory he is someone a newbie alpha might look at to have on their team.

NTN would be more the choice of a more experienced alpha wolf and would be a great choice in my opinion. However I don't like the way that Heinz and, particularly, KWhit jumped on him.

I'm tempted to vote Pass to tie things up and make it even more interesting but the only worry I have is that he has two votes that (from my understanding) won't be moved. (Path and Jackal's) This sort of marks him as an easy target for the wolfies. And, of course, it won't actually tie things up. Even if I vote Pass NTN will still be in line for the chop. So the only way to change the current lead and see if anything comes out in the wash is

Unvote Jeheinz
Vote KWhit


McCollins and Sonic, both of your votes look very much like throwaways. I would personally consider moving them. There are three players on the block. I'm no statistician but I think there's a decent chance that one of them is a wolf. Actually I think that this, retrospectively, goes for ITC and Eagles as well.

I think the amount of action and room for analysis here on day one is a great endorsement of the concept of an alpha wolf picking team-mates.
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Old 04-22-2008, 04:49 AM   #230
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can I get a reason sir? I mean come on...I defended you last game. Not that I care because Im not under much heat but really gimme something to defend. I hate not having a reason to post.
Your not involved in this lynch round, and I'm want to see who changes the equilibrium of the counts after me.
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Old 04-22-2008, 05:29 AM   #231
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So why vote at all at that stage? Seems a bit odd that you're, basically, admitting that it's a throwaway vote.
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Old 04-22-2008, 06:31 AM   #232
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My understanding of how this works, and Neon can correct me if wrong, is that he contacted the Alpha yesterday and got their picks for the wolves before assigning the rest of the roles and sending PM's.

Is that correct, Neon? I assume so because if not you could have something like the seer being picked as a wolf.

is this true?
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Old 04-22-2008, 06:51 AM   #233
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I've been looking over Neon's last game "Iron Cross" and that is how it worked there. It's also the most logical way of going about things. Incidentally Neon's rules say that he won't answer questions directly in the thread, he'll only respond to PMs.
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Old 04-22-2008, 07:16 AM   #234
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NTN would be more the choice of a more experienced alpha wolf and would be a great choice in my opinion. However I don't like the way that Heinz and, particularly, KWhit jumped on him.

Well if you look now, my vote switch did it's intended purpose. The only person I know for sure is good in this game is me, and so switching from one person who is basically unknown (KWhit) to another unknown (ntn) is a net effective change of zero, aside from the fact that it means I no longer have any votes on me.

As far as why I picked ntn, I think it's sound reasoning. Aside from the standard 1/15 odds he's the alpha, I think any alpha would be wise to pick him just on the basis that in doing so you're getting a good, experienced player who is comfortable playing UTR and excels at it (I could never do it)
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Old 04-22-2008, 07:17 AM   #235
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ntndeacon - purduebrad (75), jeheinz (194), kwhit (199), passacaglia (210)
kwhit - claphamsa (94), lathum (164), nfg22 (181), ntndeacon (225), narcizo (170)
passacaglia - path12 (136), render (163), thejackal (222)
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Old 04-22-2008, 08:04 AM   #236
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That wasnt deadline right?
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Old 04-22-2008, 08:10 AM   #237
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correct deadline is at 10 eastern
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Old 04-22-2008, 08:21 AM   #238
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I need someone to switch please.

Thanks in advance.
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Old 04-22-2008, 08:24 AM   #239
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As long as it isnt on to me. in fact those on me should reconsider. as far UTR I played last game makes me all the more noticable. do you think that I would be picked by anyone after my disappearance act last game?
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Old 04-22-2008, 08:28 AM   #240
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Of the three main candidates I think KWhit is acting the most wolfishly. Obviously. Not so much the jokey references to his being a wolf more the fact that it looks like he was fishing for an alternative lynch candidate and followed Heinz on to one. However that was pretty blatent which seems unlikely for an experienced wolf. Except, of course, an experienced wolf would reckon with people thinking that and etc etc... As a high profile winning wolf in recent memory he is someone a newbie alpha might look at to have on their team.

NTN would be more the choice of a more experienced alpha wolf and would be a great choice in my opinion. However I don't like the way that Heinz and, particularly, KWhit jumped on him.

Of course I jumped on him. And yes, I was pandering for an alternate lynch, because I was the lead vote-getter and I know I'm not a wolf.

Jeheinz moved his vote off of me and onto ntn. I moved my vote to ntn also because it tied things up. It's very simple actually and there's nothing wolfish about it. Simple self-preservation and it is in my eyes the best thing for the villagers - since I know what my role it, the best way I personally can help the village is by ensuring that I live.

Elementary, my dear Narcizo.
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Old 04-22-2008, 08:30 AM   #241
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well, I am not averse to taking my vote off you if you do the same Kwhit
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Old 04-22-2008, 08:31 AM   #242
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well, I am not averse to taking my vote off you if you do the same Kwhit

Sure.

Unvote ntndeacon

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Old 04-22-2008, 08:32 AM   #243
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Is Pass going to get lynched again because he's on drugs?

We need to get that guy clean. Some sort of intervention.
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Old 04-22-2008, 08:32 AM   #244
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I'm out until after deadline (I think - heading to a meeting).

So hopefully I'll still be alive in 30 minutes.
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Old 04-22-2008, 08:32 AM   #245
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Old 04-22-2008, 08:34 AM   #246
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Is Pass going to get lynched again because he's on drugs?

We need to get that guy clean. Some sort of intervention.

Nah, I'm clean today. Just haven't had much to say, and I don't post much during the evening anyway.
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Old 04-22-2008, 08:34 AM   #247
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Geez.

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Old 04-22-2008, 08:37 AM   #248
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ntndeacon - purduebrad (75), jeheinz (194), passacaglia (210)
kwhit - claphamsa (94), lathum (164), nfg22 (181), narcizo (170),
pass (247)
passacaglia - path12 (136), render (163), thejackal (222), Kwitt (242), NTN (245)
claphamsa - imthecrew (153)
purduebrad - eaglefan (175)
nfg22 - sonic youth (213)
thejackal - mccollins (220)
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Old 04-22-2008, 08:37 AM   #249
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so were a 5-5 Pass and Kwhit.
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Old 04-22-2008, 08:41 AM   #250
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clap, you've got me with two votes -- i unvoted ntn.
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