Simple Game Day 4 (Deadline Thursday 10 PM EDT) - Page 7

PurdueBrad · 06-10-2008, 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Racer

I'll answer your question once I can get confirmation on whether or not LoneStarGirl was the sorcerer or not.

She's not...

PurdueBrad · 06-10-2008, 09:56 PM

vote DaddyTorgo

DaddyTorgo · 06-10-2008, 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by PurdueBrad

vote DaddyTorgo

?

Danny · 06-10-2008, 09:58 PM

If this next vote is a villager that will give the wolves a win, correct?

PurdueBrad · 06-10-2008, 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Danny

If this next vote is a villager that will give the wolves a win, correct?

That is correct Danny.

PurdueBrad · 06-10-2008, 10:00 PM

It's especially difficult since there are 6 players left: 2 wolves, 1 sorcerer who will vote with the wolves, and 3 villagers. IF the wolves and sorcerer vote together and have the tie-breaker...game over.

DaddyTorgo · 06-10-2008, 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by PurdueBrad

It's especially difficult since there are 6 players left: 2 wolves, 1 sorcerer who will vote with the wolves, and 3 villagers. IF the wolves and sorcerer vote together and have the tie-breaker...game over.

hence racer's quick vote on me before I could even get my reveal out

DaddyTorgo · 06-10-2008, 10:02 PM

so not only have I told you he's a wolf, but the evidence supports it

Danny · 06-10-2008, 10:02 PM

So Daddytargo has nothing to lose by lying and putting himself in a position to be lynched the next day.

PurdueBrad · 06-10-2008, 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

hence racer's quick vote on me before I could even get my reveal out

Yeah, and if they get the seer to vote with them, they'll win but they'll expose themselves in the process.

PurdueBrad · 06-10-2008, 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by PurdueBrad

Yeah, and if they get the seer to vote with them, they'll win but they'll expose themselves in the process.

I mean sorcerer, not seer.

Racer · 06-10-2008, 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

Got my scan results back. I can only presume that there was some sort of trigger that let him know and that's why he is voting me. Racer's a wolf guys. My other scan was Clap who is a villager.

Notice how Racer got his vote out so quick because he knows I'll come out with this, and he'll try to fake-counter reveal and he'll have the tiebreak. I have to ask you all to trust me.

VOTE RACER

Alright, here goes guys.

My night one scan was PurdueBrad. He came up a villager. I originally voted for Danny today because I wanted to get information out of the newbies. I switched it to Cougar to simply tie the vote and try to get information out of both of them and also to see if anyone like DaddyTorgo switched their vote. Since the chances were low that PurdueBrad was the sorcerer, I pretty much had it in the back of my mind that I was going to go with him if it made a difference in the final vote total.

I scanned DaddyTorgo tonight and he came up wolf. I've been planning on a quick vote a lot of the day whether or not I found the wolf unless the sorcerer was dead. The reason why is that even if I hadn't found the wolf, I would at least know for certain that one or two people weren't wolves and thus increase the odds of us getting a strike on day 3. What are the chances that I am a wolf planning to do this that randomly chose the seer?

Racer · 06-10-2008, 10:04 PM

By the way, the game is over if you don't go with me.

DaddyTorgo · 06-10-2008, 10:05 PM

you wouldn't have to randomly do that if you suspected I was the seer, or if you got some sort of tweak when I scanned you (i dunno what your wolf-rules say about that, but it's been known to happen)

DaddyTorgo · 06-10-2008, 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Racer

By the way, the game is over if you don't go with me.

game's over if you don't go with me

PurdueBrad · 06-10-2008, 10:07 PM

Oooooh, fun!

Racer · 06-10-2008, 10:09 PM

Well guys, I really am the seer. I tried to sound like I wasn't in my posts by suggesting the seer do things. I also attempted to drop a very minor hint that I thought PurdueBrad and LSG were good (basically saying that they generally trying to get to the bottom of things) in the event that I was killed during the night. I thought people would be less likely to go after them then and give the villagers a better chance of winning. Since I scanned PurdueBrad the night before I knew he was a wolf and I generally felt that LSG probably wasn't a wolf.

PurdueBrad · 06-10-2008, 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Racer

Well guys, I really am the seer. I tried to sound like I wasn't in my posts by suggesting the seer do things. I also attempted to drop a very minor hint that I thought PurdueBrad and LSG were good (basically saying that they generally trying to get to the bottom of things) in the event that I was killed during the night. I thought people would be less likely to go after them then and give the villagers a better chance of winning. Since I scanned PurdueBrad the night before I knew he was not a wolf and I generally felt that LSG probably wasn't a wolf.

Corrected, I believe?

Danny · 06-10-2008, 10:11 PM

Racer was the 3rd person to vote in round one and he voted Jackal.

DT was the first person to vote in round one and he voted Lathum

DaddyTorgo · 06-10-2008, 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Racer

Well guys, I really am the seer. I tried to sound like I wasn't in my posts by suggesting the seer do things. I also attempted to drop a very minor hint that I thought PurdueBrad and LSG were good (basically saying that they generally trying to get to the bottom of things) in the event that I was killed during the night. I thought people would be less likely to go after them then and give the villagers a better chance of winning. Since I scanned PurdueBrad the night before I knew he was a wolf and I generally felt that LSG probably wasn't a wolf.

now PB's a wolf??

you said he was a villager before.

your lies are confusing you wolf.

PB - what does that make you think?

DaddyTorgo · 06-10-2008, 10:14 PM

D1 votes tell us nothing in this case

Danny · 06-10-2008, 10:15 PM

Just putting then out there in case there was a pattern to how wolves tend to vote in round 1.

PurdueBrad · 06-10-2008, 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

D1 votes tell us nothing in this case

Looking back, the votes tell us little. My thoughts are this:

The wolves are paired as such
Racer and LoneStarGirl

OR

DaddyTorgo and Claphamsa

Racer · 06-10-2008, 10:17 PM

Here's why I decided to scan each person.

PurdueBrad - Given all the how great of a player Lathum is, I figured he'd be a night one kill if he wasn't a wolf so I didn't scan him. I scanned PurdueBrad because in an earlier post (I will find it later if you want), he said something about how he'd imagine that at least one of the wolves had to be one of the five returning players. That comment bothered me a bit (probably because I'm a math guy) so I basically scanned him because of it.

DaddyTorgo - I scanned him for a number of reasons. The first reason is because he never bothered to change his vote on Lathum the first day even though no one else had voted for him. I'm pretty sure I did the same thing when I was a wolf the first day. The second reason is I just simply had a bad feeling about him. The 3rd (although pretty minor) is that he voted for Cougar in such a way that I sort of felt he just trying to get some of the attention off of Danny. The fourth reason (also minor), is that LSG seemed a bit unsure about him. If you look back, I was also willing to vote with her to lynch DaddyTorgo.

DaddyTorgo · 06-10-2008, 10:17 PM

LSG was a villager. I'd say Racer and...idk who else right this second. Will have to read up on it tomorrow.

Doesn't matter though...if you get this wrong tomorrow we lose.

Danny · 06-10-2008, 10:17 PM

LoneStarGirl is dead though

Racer · 06-10-2008, 10:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

now PB's a wolf??

you said he was a villager before.

your lies are confusing you wolf.

PB - what does that make you think?

Sorry typo. He was a villager when I scanned him.

Axxon · 06-10-2008, 10:19 PM

Wow. That was unexpected.

PurdueBrad · 06-10-2008, 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by PurdueBrad

Looking back, the votes tell us little. My thoughts are this:

The wolves are paired as such
Racer and corrected because I typed the wrong name Axxon
OR

DaddyTorgo and Claphamsa

see bold

PurdueBrad · 06-10-2008, 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Danny

LoneStarGirl is dead though

Yeah, I corrected it because I'm dumb.

Racer · 06-10-2008, 10:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PurdueBrad

Looking back, the votes tell us little. My thoughts are this:

The wolves are paired as such
Racer and LoneStarGirl

OR

DaddyTorgo and Claphamsa

LoneStarGirl is dead and came up as a villager.

DaddyTorgo · 06-10-2008, 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Racer

Here's why I decided to scan each person.

PurdueBrad - Given all the how great of a player Lathum is, I figured he'd be a night one kill if he wasn't a wolf so I didn't scan him. I scanned PurdueBrad because in an earlier post (I will find it later if you want), he said something about how he'd imagine that at least one of the wolves had to be one of the five returning players. That comment bothered me a bit (probably because I'm a math guy) so I basically scanned him because of it.

DaddyTorgo - I scanned him for a number of reasons. The first reason is because he never bothered to change his vote on Lathum the first day even though no one else had voted for him. I'm pretty sure I did the same thing when I was a wolf the first day. The second reason is I just simply had a bad feeling about him. The 3rd (although pretty minor) is that he voted for Cougar in such a way that I sort of felt he just trying to get some of the attention off of Danny. The fourth reason (also minor), is that LSG seemed a bit unsure about him. If you look back, I was also willing to vote with her to lynch DaddyTorgo.

I never change my D1 vote without a reason. Especially on a runaway. There's no reason to. And I voted for cougar at the same time PB voted for danny...we were trying to draw them out of their shells and get them talking. And I felt both of them were really villagers so there was no reason to change at the end.

Doesn't matter, you're just a wolf trying to misdirect. The evidence is there. Why else vote for me so early...seconds after the deadline? I hadn't even gotten my reveal typed out yet in a format that could be read.

Racer · 06-10-2008, 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by PurdueBrad

see bold

Ahh, gotcha. Typo just like me.

PurdueBrad · 06-10-2008, 10:21 PM

DT, did you already post this? If not, what were your rationales for your scans?

Danny · 06-10-2008, 10:22 PM

Clap hasn't been on since before the lynch was revealed. Does that mean anything or can the wolves decide who to vote for and one of them send in the decision?

PurdueBrad · 06-10-2008, 10:22 PM

Thay can send in provisional orders.

PurdueBrad · 06-10-2008, 10:25 PM

Early vote count (as of 336)

DaddyTorgo (2)- Racer (291), PurdueBrad (302)
Racer (1)- DaddyTorgo (297)

Racer · 06-10-2008, 10:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PurdueBrad

Thay can send in provisional orders.

Although if I picked the same person as the wolves did, I'd be out of luck.

Danny · 06-10-2008, 10:26 PM

I really don't think PurdueBrad is a wolf, I didn't think so before, and I don't think a wolf would have made that typing mistake putting lonestar girl in there instead of Axxon.

DaddyTorgo · 06-10-2008, 10:27 PM

my rationale - for racer was simply the interactions between LSG and him tweaked *something* in me. Had lathum been alive I would have gone for him here obviously.

my rationale for clap was because he's a vet and he was talking an awful lot early and suggesting and mentioning my name, and I wanted to see if I could trust the direction he was trying to steer things.

DaddyTorgo · 06-10-2008, 10:29 PM

PB - I don't know that you're a wolf, but you jumped awfully fast with Racer there without any explanation still - what gives?

DaddyTorgo · 06-10-2008, 10:29 PM

hey guys...WW posts count over here...sssh

Racer · 06-10-2008, 10:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

I never change my D1 vote without a reason. Especially on a runaway. There's no reason to. And I voted for cougar at the same time PB voted for danny...we were trying to draw them out of their shells and get them talking. And I felt both of them were really villagers so there was no reason to change at the end.

Doesn't matter, you're just a wolf trying to misdirect. The evidence is there. Why else vote for me so early...seconds after the deadline? I hadn't even gotten my reveal typed out yet in a format that could be read.

I'm just giving you my reasons to why I chose to scan you tonight over say Axxon or Claph. The reason why people should vote for you isn't because of my rationale for choosing to scan you in the first place, but because you turned up wolf when I scanned you.

DaddyTorgo · 06-10-2008, 10:30 PM

I gave an explanation and racer had given none and you still jumped straight with racer and still haven't explained it - what's up with that? are you the other wolf and this is you guy's coming out party and you hope to attract the sorcerer and end this?

PurdueBrad · 06-10-2008, 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

I gave an explanation and racer had given none and you still jumped straight with racer and still haven't explained it - what's up with that? are you the other wolf and this is you guy's coming out party and you hope to attract the sorcerer and end this?

Not a wolf DT. I'm either the sorcerer or trying to pull of a fake sorcerer reveal to get the second wolf to throw their vote out there.

So...I'm either going with Racer for the win if he's a wolf

OR

I'm faking Racer's partner into coming forward in order to nail them both.

Racer · 06-10-2008, 10:33 PM

Alright one thing. Why would I spend all this time explaining my actions if I was a wolf. If I was a wolf, all I would have to do is say, "Hey sorcerer, you need to vote with me and so and so and we win the game." Simple as that since I own the tie breaker.

Racer · 06-10-2008, 10:34 PM

A reveal as a wolf would actually make since if I was a wolf. But I'm not a wolf. I'm the seer.

DaddyTorgo · 06-10-2008, 10:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Racer

Alright one thing. Why would I spend all this time explaining my actions if I was a wolf. If I was a wolf, all I would have to do is say, "Hey sorcerer, you need to vote with me and so and so and we win the game." Simple as that since I own the tie breaker.

maybe that's what you're doing now since you just realized that

PurdueBrad · 06-10-2008, 10:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Racer

Alright one thing. Why would I spend all this time explaining my actions if I was a wolf. If I was a wolf, all I would have to do is say, "Hey sorcerer, you need to vote with me and so and so and we win the game." Simple as that since I own the tie breaker.

Then Racer, why were you so concerned about whether or not LSG was the sorcerer?

Axxon · 06-10-2008, 10:37 PM

VOTE DaddyTorgo

06-10-2008, 10:02 PM	#308
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	so not only have I told you he's a wolf, but the evidence supports it __________________ If I've ever helped you and you'd like to buy me a coffee, or just to say thanks, I have my Bitcoin and Ethereum addressed listed below :) BTC: bc1qykhsfyn9vw4ntqfgr0svj4n9tjdgufryh2pxn5 ETH: 0x2AcdC5cd88EA537063553F5b240073bE067BaCa9

06-10-2008, 10:05 PM	#314
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	you wouldn't have to randomly do that if you suspected I was the seer, or if you got some sort of tweak when I scanned you (i dunno what your wolf-rules say about that, but it's been known to happen) __________________ If I've ever helped you and you'd like to buy me a coffee, or just to say thanks, I have my Bitcoin and Ethereum addressed listed below :) BTC: bc1qykhsfyn9vw4ntqfgr0svj4n9tjdgufryh2pxn5 ETH: 0x2AcdC5cd88EA537063553F5b240073bE067BaCa9

06-10-2008, 10:14 PM	#321
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	D1 votes tell us nothing in this case __________________ If I've ever helped you and you'd like to buy me a coffee, or just to say thanks, I have my Bitcoin and Ethereum addressed listed below :) BTC: bc1qykhsfyn9vw4ntqfgr0svj4n9tjdgufryh2pxn5 ETH: 0x2AcdC5cd88EA537063553F5b240073bE067BaCa9

06-10-2008, 10:17 PM	#325
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	LSG was a villager. I'd say Racer and...idk who else right this second. Will have to read up on it tomorrow. Doesn't matter though...if you get this wrong tomorrow we lose. __________________ If I've ever helped you and you'd like to buy me a coffee, or just to say thanks, I have my Bitcoin and Ethereum addressed listed below :) BTC: bc1qykhsfyn9vw4ntqfgr0svj4n9tjdgufryh2pxn5 ETH: 0x2AcdC5cd88EA537063553F5b240073bE067BaCa9

06-10-2008, 10:19 PM	#328
Axxon Pro Starter Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Phoenix, AZ	Wow. That was unexpected. __________________ There are no houris, alas, in our heaven.

06-10-2008, 09:56 PM	#302
PurdueBrad Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: DeKalb, IL	vote DaddyTorgo

06-10-2008, 09:58 PM	#304
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	If this next vote is a villager that will give the wolves a win, correct?

06-10-2008, 10:00 PM	#306
PurdueBrad Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: DeKalb, IL	It's especially difficult since there are 6 players left: 2 wolves, 1 sorcerer who will vote with the wolves, and 3 villagers. IF the wolves and sorcerer vote together and have the tie-breaker...game over.

06-10-2008, 10:02 PM	#309
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	So Daddytargo has nothing to lose by lying and putting himself in a position to be lynched the next day.

06-10-2008, 10:04 PM	#313
Racer College Benchwarmer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Fort Wayne, Indiana	By the way, the game is over if you don't go with me.

06-10-2008, 10:07 PM	#316
PurdueBrad Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: DeKalb, IL	Oooooh, fun!

06-10-2008, 10:09 PM	#317
Racer College Benchwarmer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Fort Wayne, Indiana	Well guys, I really am the seer. I tried to sound like I wasn't in my posts by suggesting the seer do things. I also attempted to drop a very minor hint that I thought PurdueBrad and LSG were good (basically saying that they generally trying to get to the bottom of things) in the event that I was killed during the night. I thought people would be less likely to go after them then and give the villagers a better chance of winning. Since I scanned PurdueBrad the night before I knew he was a wolf and I generally felt that LSG probably wasn't a wolf.

06-10-2008, 10:11 PM	#319
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	Racer was the 3rd person to vote in round one and he voted Jackal. DT was the first person to vote in round one and he voted Lathum

06-10-2008, 10:15 PM	#322
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	Just putting then out there in case there was a pattern to how wolves tend to vote in round 1.

06-10-2008, 10:17 PM	#324
Racer College Benchwarmer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Fort Wayne, Indiana	Here's why I decided to scan each person. PurdueBrad - Given all the how great of a player Lathum is, I figured he'd be a night one kill if he wasn't a wolf so I didn't scan him. I scanned PurdueBrad because in an earlier post (I will find it later if you want), he said something about how he'd imagine that at least one of the wolves had to be one of the five returning players. That comment bothered me a bit (probably because I'm a math guy) so I basically scanned him because of it. DaddyTorgo - I scanned him for a number of reasons. The first reason is because he never bothered to change his vote on Lathum the first day even though no one else had voted for him. I'm pretty sure I did the same thing when I was a wolf the first day. The second reason is I just simply had a bad feeling about him. The 3rd (although pretty minor) is that he voted for Cougar in such a way that I sort of felt he just trying to get some of the attention off of Danny. The fourth reason (also minor), is that LSG seemed a bit unsure about him. If you look back, I was also willing to vote with her to lynch DaddyTorgo.

06-10-2008, 10:17 PM	#326
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	LoneStarGirl is dead though

06-10-2008, 10:21 PM	#334
PurdueBrad Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: DeKalb, IL	DT, did you already post this? If not, what were your rationales for your scans?

06-10-2008, 10:22 PM	#335
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	Clap hasn't been on since before the lynch was revealed. Does that mean anything or can the wolves decide who to vote for and one of them send in the decision?

06-10-2008, 10:22 PM	#336
PurdueBrad Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: DeKalb, IL	Thay can send in provisional orders.

06-10-2008, 10:25 PM	#337
PurdueBrad Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: DeKalb, IL	Early vote count (as of 336) DaddyTorgo (2)- Racer (291), PurdueBrad (302) Racer (1)- DaddyTorgo (297)

06-10-2008, 10:26 PM	#339
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	I really don't think PurdueBrad is a wolf, I didn't think so before, and I don't think a wolf would have made that typing mistake putting lonestar girl in there instead of Axxon.

06-10-2008, 10:27 PM	#340
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	my rationale - for racer was simply the interactions between LSG and him tweaked something in me. Had lathum been alive I would have gone for him here obviously. my rationale for clap was because he's a vet and he was talking an awful lot early and suggesting and mentioning my name, and I wanted to see if I could trust the direction he was trying to steer things. __________________ If I've ever helped you and you'd like to buy me a coffee, or just to say thanks, I have my Bitcoin and Ethereum addressed listed below :) BTC: bc1qykhsfyn9vw4ntqfgr0svj4n9tjdgufryh2pxn5 ETH: 0x2AcdC5cd88EA537063553F5b240073bE067BaCa9

06-10-2008, 10:29 PM	#341
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	PB - I don't know that you're a wolf, but you jumped awfully fast with Racer there without any explanation still - what gives? __________________ If I've ever helped you and you'd like to buy me a coffee, or just to say thanks, I have my Bitcoin and Ethereum addressed listed below :) BTC: bc1qykhsfyn9vw4ntqfgr0svj4n9tjdgufryh2pxn5 ETH: 0x2AcdC5cd88EA537063553F5b240073bE067BaCa9

06-10-2008, 10:29 PM	#342
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	hey guys...WW posts count over here...sssh __________________ If I've ever helped you and you'd like to buy me a coffee, or just to say thanks, I have my Bitcoin and Ethereum addressed listed below :) BTC: bc1qykhsfyn9vw4ntqfgr0svj4n9tjdgufryh2pxn5 ETH: 0x2AcdC5cd88EA537063553F5b240073bE067BaCa9

06-10-2008, 10:30 PM	#344
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	I gave an explanation and racer had given none and you still jumped straight with racer and still haven't explained it - what's up with that? are you the other wolf and this is you guy's coming out party and you hope to attract the sorcerer and end this? __________________ If I've ever helped you and you'd like to buy me a coffee, or just to say thanks, I have my Bitcoin and Ethereum addressed listed below :) BTC: bc1qykhsfyn9vw4ntqfgr0svj4n9tjdgufryh2pxn5 ETH: 0x2AcdC5cd88EA537063553F5b240073bE067BaCa9

06-10-2008, 10:33 PM	#346
Racer College Benchwarmer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Fort Wayne, Indiana	Alright one thing. Why would I spend all this time explaining my actions if I was a wolf. If I was a wolf, all I would have to do is say, "Hey sorcerer, you need to vote with me and so and so and we win the game." Simple as that since I own the tie breaker.

06-10-2008, 10:34 PM	#347
Racer College Benchwarmer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Fort Wayne, Indiana	A reveal as a wolf would actually make since if I was a wolf. But I'm not a wolf. I'm the seer.

06-10-2008, 10:37 PM	#350
Axxon Pro Starter Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Phoenix, AZ	VOTE DaddyTorgo __________________ There are no houris, alas, in our heaven.

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