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Old 09-09-2008, 12:36 PM   #101
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Wolves are essentially Highlanders too right?

From reading the rules, it sounds like that is the case. Everyone is a highlander, and wolves are just evil ones.
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Old 09-09-2008, 12:37 PM   #102
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Old 09-09-2008, 12:41 PM   #103
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Old 09-09-2008, 12:46 PM   #104
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Just the ones that haven't checked in right?
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Old 09-09-2008, 12:55 PM   #105
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Correct. I figure today is as crapshoot as it gets, and if we're to err, I'd prefer to err on the side of someone who isn't contributing.
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Old 09-09-2008, 01:01 PM   #106
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Was anyone else in Vegas with me? The tone of my PM sounds like there was, but I am just curious.
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Old 09-09-2008, 01:05 PM   #107
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Old 09-09-2008, 01:09 PM   #108
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I also fluttered but my instincts told me it wasn't right and I settled down.

Do we think this is a game where it's best to say what city we're in? Part of me thinks yes, but part of me thinks that even the good guys want to outlast the good guys anyhow, so a death doesn't necessarily mean a wolf.

My impression is that we would duel anyone in the same location if possible. What you're saying happened does suggest that we have some control over it, although who knows what's that based on. I doubt that duels will only be wolves vs villagers as that would be pretty powerful for the villagers - maybe there was a night 1 amnesty.

I think villagers should have in mind that none of us will get a major victory if the wolves win. We should be looking to eradicate the wolves first and foremost and then worry about the major victory after that.

I'm only really going to get one more shot at posting here before deadline. Hopefully someone will say something super-incriminating and I'll be able to vote for them, as I hate random day one votes.
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Old 09-09-2008, 01:11 PM   #109
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I'm going to vote for one of the absentee players. So I'll start by

Voting Mrs. Schmidty

She can be around during the day, where as the others haven't played for a bit or are more night time people.
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Old 09-09-2008, 01:11 PM   #110
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Sorry I missed that, skimmed the posts too quickly
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Old 09-09-2008, 01:13 PM   #111
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Correct. I figure today is as crapshoot as it gets, and if we're to err, I'd prefer to err on the side of someone who isn't contributing.

Not a huge fan of this line as people might have genuine reasons for going missing and if they have a role they won't be able to reveal that role if they're put under pressure. Also targeting non-shows is often the line of least resistance taken by wolves to get an easy lynch.
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Old 09-09-2008, 01:14 PM   #112
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Not a huge fan of this line as people might have genuine reasons for going missing and if they have a role they won't be able to reveal that role if they're put under pressure. Also targeting non-shows is often the line of least resistance taken by wolves to get an easy lynch.

That is my thinking too - I think we should be able to get something out of the people that have been around, at least more than those who haven't. It won't be much, we all know that, but no point in just throwing votes to people that aren't here, unless of course you don't care who dies (wolf)
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Old 09-09-2008, 01:32 PM   #113
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So I'm better off going after someone who is contributing and would have to reveal if they had a role anyhow?

Sorry, I don't buy that line of thinking. I just don't see the net benefit of it.
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Old 09-09-2008, 01:48 PM   #114
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Additionally, in a game like this where villagers are going to off villagers, it's to the wolves advantage to just keep quiet for the onset to see how things shake out.

Hell our seer and our bodyguard could both go to the same city for a duel on Night one and we could lose one that way.
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Old 09-09-2008, 02:02 PM   #115
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So I'm better off going after someone who is contributing and would have to reveal if they had a role anyhow?

Well, let's be honest, there hasn't really been a whole lot of contributing yet. I mean is there really a big difference between someone saying "checking in" and someone not posting at all?

Yes they would have to reveal their role and thus save themselves and leaving the wolves and the bodyguard the decision of whether they're going to be targeted. As opposed to someone who forgot the start time or who has lost internet connection and would consequently not have that opportunity to reveal.

Lathum's said non-contributors are going to lose their duels automatically, so if you're really worried about your list not showing up chances they should be killed in duels pretty quickly.
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Old 09-09-2008, 02:06 PM   #116
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Lathum's said non-contributors are going to lose their duels automatically, so if you're really worried about your list not showing up chances they should be killed in duels pretty quickly.

He said people who didn't send an action would lose automatically, not non-contirbutors. There's a difference there.

What I'm saying is, it's not exactly a bad wolf ploy here to keep pretty mum starting out, send whatever action they need to and let villagers off villagers for a few days and then re-assess. We've already seen that people are just going to naturally go to the same cities and if I'm interpreting things correctly, duels happen whether intentional or not. Heck, if you and I pick the same city tonight Narc we could be in a duel. The wolves have to be seeing that as being to their advantage and could/should be striving to just stay alive.
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Old 09-09-2008, 02:22 PM   #117
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Old 09-09-2008, 02:50 PM   #118
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i went to san francisco, but was apparently the only person in the gay bar district.(i hate lathum)
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Old 09-09-2008, 02:50 PM   #119
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Old 09-09-2008, 03:05 PM   #120
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hahah that's awesome saldana.

on another note - deadline is 8pm so i will be getting in at least a prelim vote before i leave work, because i have to go home and work on possibly repairing my laptop, and if i can't fix it (unlikely by 8pm i'd say) I won't be on till after that
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Old 09-09-2008, 03:21 PM   #121
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Old 09-09-2008, 03:22 PM   #122
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Old 09-09-2008, 03:24 PM   #123
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I was in Miami. Your fluttering probably went away Path because you didn't want to meet your maker in a duel!

Hmm. I thought it was probably just the rum.
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Old 09-09-2008, 03:26 PM   #124
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I'll toss out another no show so far and then get back to work.

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Old 09-09-2008, 03:27 PM   #125
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because he's a trixy player and I can have a hard time getting a read on him.

*the usual "random D1 vote subject to change" disclaimer*

hopefully i'll be able to get on from my phone and see what's up before deadline

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Old 09-09-2008, 03:30 PM   #126
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Sorry I didn't check in, just didn't really feel the need. I just got home from my classes now so that's why I didn't contribute anything today. I resisted my urge last night and saw the cubbies play.
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Old 09-09-2008, 03:36 PM   #127
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Not to attempt to implicate illini here, but his happening to show up within 4 minutes of getting heat for not checking in is prizzactly what I was getting at earlier.
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Old 09-09-2008, 03:41 PM   #128
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Additionally, in a game like this where villagers are going to off villagers, it's to the wolves advantage to just keep quiet for the onset to see how things shake out.

Hell our seer and our bodyguard could both go to the same city for a duel on Night one and we could lose one that way.

Our seer won't get killed in a duel. Isn't she the only non highlander out there?
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Old 09-09-2008, 03:42 PM   #129
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Got zero time to say much. My usual ploy is to add my vote to someone else's to try and shake things up and avoid lots of single votes. For no other reason than that, and the usual "dangerous UTR player" business. This change won't be moved because I'm going to bed.

Vote NTNDeacon

Incidentally I was also in SF. Didn't get a tingle which at first I thought might be significant but if Saldana was also there and didn't feel anything maybe it isn't. Or maybe it is and we just don't know why.
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Old 09-09-2008, 03:43 PM   #130
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Sorry I didn't check in, just didn't really feel the need. I just got home from my classes now so that's why I didn't contribute anything today. I resisted my urge last night and saw the cubbies play.
I got nearly an identical message except I was seeing the Sox (horrors of horrors). I am wondering if we should take that to mean this happened to each other?
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Old 09-09-2008, 03:44 PM   #131
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just a note. Any references to attending a sporting event last night were just for flavor.

However going forward, they may have some signifigance.
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Old 09-09-2008, 03:50 PM   #132
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Our seer won't get killed in a duel. Isn't she the only non highlander out there?

Ah gotcha, is that how it'd work? I honestly don't know enough about the backstory here.

Same principle applies, our BG and the unlynchable guy could meet up and BAM one dies.

My general point here is that there are going to be more deaths than normal that are completely out of our control. That's a wolf advantage situation.
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Old 09-09-2008, 03:52 PM   #133
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Vote Mrs. Schmidty

No sense spreading this out further and given illini has checked in, I'm going Mrs. S
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Old 09-09-2008, 03:54 PM   #134
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Old 09-09-2008, 04:03 PM   #135
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Our seer won't get killed in a duel. Isn't she the only non highlander out there?

Appears so.

Of course, that means that possibly one of you guys is a female in disguise.
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Old 09-09-2008, 04:04 PM   #136
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Old 09-09-2008, 04:11 PM   #137
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Note going forward, I'll probably be rather inactive from 5:30 - 8:30 PM CST for this game...
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Old 09-09-2008, 04:12 PM   #138
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Old 09-09-2008, 04:14 PM   #139
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Not to attempt to implicate illini here, but his happening to show up within 4 minutes of getting heat for not checking in is prizzactly what I was getting at earlier.


As I said, I had just gotten out of class.
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Old 09-09-2008, 04:22 PM   #140
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As I said, I had just gotten out of class.

I know and I believe you (hence picking Mrs. S over you) but I was using that to illustrate my point.
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Old 09-09-2008, 04:27 PM   #141
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is heinze buggin anyone else? I decided to do an afternoon brew.... since I went nuts and left work early! so ill be around somewhat.
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Old 09-09-2008, 04:28 PM   #142
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fyi ill probably vote for illini or ntn. ntn always kinda scares me... duno why

vote ntn.

i can change it later
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Old 09-09-2008, 04:35 PM   #143
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is heinze buggin anyone else? I decided to do an afternoon brew.... since I went nuts and left work early! so ill be around somewhat.

141 posts for the standard Heinz attack. That's a new record in patience for you.
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Old 09-09-2008, 04:37 PM   #144
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FYI I'm leaving in a half-hour and won't be back until the morning.

So don't count on me to break the tie!
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Old 09-09-2008, 04:39 PM   #145
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Old 09-09-2008, 04:39 PM   #146
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and somehow, spell check now works here!

did you know spell check is 2 words?
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Old 09-09-2008, 04:40 PM   #147
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Old 09-09-2008, 04:49 PM   #148
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Old 09-09-2008, 04:51 PM   #149
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interesting how easily we formed up into a three horse race, and then the spurious telle vote dropped in out of no where
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are you the only one around who hasnt voted
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