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Darth Vilus · 09-14-2009, 12:18 PM

*killed*

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Originally Posted by Darth Vilus

I was trying to do both. I didn't dare spaek more plainly because then the seer would have been very early on in the game by the wolves.

claphamsa · 09-14-2009, 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Darth Vilus

Clap is trying to discredit me by poking holes in my writing. The last attempts of a desperate man.

or someone who KNOWS your lying!

Darth Vilus · 09-14-2009, 12:27 PM

Don't worry, Lorena is going first. You are number 2.

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Originally Posted by claphamsa

or someone who KNOWS your lying!

claphamsa · 09-14-2009, 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Darth Vilus

I was trying to do both. I didn't dare spaek more plainly because then the seer would have been very early on in the game by the wolves.

um.... so telle says, he was hinting at being the seer.... which is reasonable (but not what you said) and you disagree with her? shes trying to give you an out from your lie, and you dont take it? WTF!

I just cant believe he is a wolf, someone would help him out with his story! hes gotta be the outcast.

Chief Rum · 09-14-2009, 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Telle

I assumed he meant he dropped a hint about being the seer.

If that's what he meant, he wrote it poorly. I read it the way clap did, that he dropped a hint about either LSG or Lorena (unclear) on the first day, which would certainly not make sense.

claphamsa · 09-14-2009, 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Darth Vilus

Don't worry, Lorena is going first. You are number 2.

so after you get lorena lynched, your gonna night kill me? great!

Passacaglia · 09-14-2009, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief Rum

If that's what he meant, he wrote it poorly. I read it the way clap did, that he dropped a hint about either LSG or Lorena (unclear) on the first day, which would certainly not make sense.

Me too.

Passacaglia · 09-14-2009, 12:40 PM

Darth, can you tell us what hints you were referring to?

Darth Vilus · 09-14-2009, 12:42 PM

That's the plan!

And for everyone who doesn't believe me, why would i do this if i was a wolf? The wolves were already winning! And obviously they would advise against this sort of action. if i was a wolf it would bring unnecessary attention upon myself when it seemed i wasn't even close to being lynched!

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Originally Posted by claphamsa

so after you get lorena lynched, your gonna night kill me? great!

Lorena · 09-14-2009, 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Darth Vilus

So with two scans thesea are my results: Lonestargirl is the Outcast who knows who the wolves are and Lorena is a wolf. I tried to drop a small hint the first day.

I am 100% sure that Clap is a wolf. LSG broke up with Lerriuqs and went with Clap after finding out her role and seeing that you can private message your date. She would obviously go out with a wolf so she could communicate with them and let them know who she was. To further prove this point she was voted Prom Queen. The wolves voted her queen to keep the power away from the villagers and to have an excuse for not killing her.

With this knowledge we can also deduce that Lerriuqs is a villager.

I also believe, but have no proof that Schmidty is a villager. This is a combination of my personal vibe of schmidty by his posts and his being Lorena's date. She only accepted after finding her role and it would make perfect sense for her to go out with a villager. This would allow her to PM with him and help her to turn suspicion away from herself and put it onto a villager.

So this leaves Chief Rum, J23, Pass, and Telle. Three villagers and one wolf. Personally I believe Telle is a villager for various reasons.

So it's Pass, J23, and Chief Rum. So far everything I have said before I have been Sure of. This last one is an educated guess. I believe J23 is the last and final wolf. it could be Pass I'll admit, but I am more inclined to believe it's J23 just by the posts. So to sum up:

Lorena-Wolf (scanned)
LSG- Outcast kid working with wolves (scanned)
Clap-Wolf (not scanned but 100% sure)
Lerriuq-villager (almost 100% sure)
Schmidty-villager (almost 100% sure)
Telle-villager (almost 100 % sure)
J23-suspected wolf
Chief Rum-suspected villager (but could be wolf)
Pass-suspected villager (but could be wolf)

So there you have it my comrades, the line has been drawn. The wolves have been cornered and are ready for the picking. Darth Vilus has orchestrated their demise as they must have known he would. It is time for them to suffer the wrath of th Dark Lord they so unwisely challenged. Though they may rip and tear my body, my spirit lives on in the force making me ever stronger. Go now my fellow villagers and lynch the mongrels!

I still don't understand how LSG came up as an outcast in your scans. Secondly clap asked LSG before lerriquis and she accepted to go with lerriquis. IF, and that's a big IF she's who you say she is, why not go with clap initially?

And as far as accepting to go with Schmity, I'm pretty sure we all got our PMs around the same time, so your story there doesn't add up. So what you're saying is that I accepted to be Schmidty's date after I got a PM saying I was a wolf? Right. I don't think that's how it's done.

You say you're 100% sure clap is a wolf... did you scan him? The only way to be 100% sure is if you scanned him and apparently you didn't, so that doesn't make sense either.

claphamsa · 09-14-2009, 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Darth Vilus

That's the plan!

And for everyone who doesn't believe me, why would i do this if i was a wolf? The wolves were already winning! And obviously they would advise against this sort of action. if i was a wolf it would bring unnecessary attention upon myself when it seemed i wasn't even close to being lynched!

why would you do this? check the numbers, if they believe you its game over!

Lorena · 09-14-2009, 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Darth Vilus

I am 100% sure that Clap is a wolf. LSG broke up with Lerriuqs and went with Clap after finding out her role and seeing that you can private message your date. She would obviously go out with a wolf so she could communicate with them and let them know who she was. To further prove this point she was voted Prom Queen. The wolves voted her queen to keep the power away from the villagers and to have an excuse for not killing her.

Clap-Wolf (not scanned but 100% sure)

The underlined are discrepancies in your own post. First you say you're 100% sure, then you're not... make up your mind!

Passacaglia · 09-14-2009, 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Darth Vilus

Darth Vilus has orchestrated their demise as they must have known he would.

However these reveals turn out, this line is absolutely classic.

Anyway, Darth, can you go back and quote the hints you were making earlier?

Passacaglia · 09-14-2009, 12:54 PM

Also, clap, did you make any hints?

claphamsa · 09-14-2009, 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Passacaglia

Also, clap, did you make any hints?

no.

Passacaglia · 09-14-2009, 01:04 PM

Okay, so I just looked at the timestamps. Darth posted his reveal at 12:44 Central Time. Night deadline was 10 AM Central Time. So we're looking at 9 hours before night ended, and no wolves popped in, saw that he was the seer, and killed him? I'm not sure I can buy that.

VOTE DARTH VILUS

Lorena · 09-14-2009, 01:07 PM

I see Darth here and I'm waiting for him to say something as I keep refreshing the page. I have some errands to run but I'll be back in a bit.

Passacaglia · 09-14-2009, 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Darth Vilus

That's the plan!

And for everyone who doesn't believe me, why would i do this if i was a wolf? The wolves were already winning! And obviously they would advise against this sort of action. if i was a wolf it would bring unnecessary attention upon myself when it seemed i wasn't even close to being lynched!

I always hate this question. It's like saying 'my actions are too obviously wolfy for me to be a wolf' -- the obvious answer, I guess, is that you would do this to get villagers lynched. The question is, who were people going to go after today if not for this reveal? Because it's definitely not Lorena or Darth. So if Darth is lying, and we lynch Lorena, then Darth, we'll probably be nowhere near where we were then.

Passacaglia · 09-14-2009, 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by claphamsa

no.

That's fair -- I don't think it's a wise move to drop hints that you're the seer anyway.

claphamsa · 09-14-2009, 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Passacaglia

That's fair -- I don't think it's a wise move to drop hints that you're the seer anyway.

ive never been nightkilled before see no reason to start now

(I may have been nightkilled, but i sure dont remember it)

Darth Vilus · 09-14-2009, 01:10 PM

Sure no problem. it was just one hint and not that good though. This is the original post:

"I have to vote early because of work, normally I would wait to hear more about what the group is saying. For some reason I have a feeling that the wolves are people you wouldn't normally expect, and my feelings usually turn out to be right. So think about this first, think of 2 people you wouldn't vote for and vote for one of them. That's just my opinion.

And what the hell! Why does my date get knocked off! I swear revenge. Though i'm a free agent now

VOTE LORENA

I just think a woman wolf would be hilarious at the prom! It was either you Telle or LoneStarGirl. I apologize"

The first was that I knew Lorena was a wolf. I said vote for who u wouldn't expect. No one was expecting Lorena which is 1 and 2 is I voted for her, kind of a little nudge in that direction. The second is "and my feelings usually turn out to be right." This is both a reference to me in real life and the fact that i was the seer. It would indicate that i could "feel" or "see" who the wolves were. Put this with the other and u would be able to see lorena was a wolf. after seeing she was the group's trust with me would have went up a few notches.

And this part. "I just think a woman wolf would be hilarious at the prom! it was either you Telle or LoneStarGirl. I apologize" This was a lie. it was an attempt to shy suspicion away from me for being the seer so the wolves wouldn't kill me. Sadly the villagers would see it too. I i went out early winning the game woulda been tough. I decided not to drop anymore hints to avoid that scenario. i would only reveal when I had something good. i was trying to track down all three wolves but we started losing key players. Since it looked like no one was on the wolves's tails (hey get it, tails!?!) I had to act. even though i couldn't get them all we could get a few which would help with the ratio.

Does that answer the question? I know i know, it's not that good. But it was still early mind u. i figured the wolves would take out more experienced players first, and this would give me time to scan. I didn't see anymore reason to put suspicion on myself.

I do feel sorry about Kwhit though, it had to look like i didn't know much of anything.

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Originally Posted by Passacaglia

However these reveals turn out, this line is absolutely classic.

Anyway, Darth, can you go back and quote the hints you were making earlier?

Darth Vilus · 09-14-2009, 01:16 PM

If I die because of you I'm gonna be pissed. There is no honor in being killed by your own team. If I die you will see that I was truthful and that you should never have doubted me. I will be expecting an apology if that happens.

Every villager who doesn't have their head up their ass like pass vote lorena. if we lose a villager it might be the death of us all.

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Originally Posted by Passacaglia

Okay, so I just looked at the timestamps. Darth posted his reveal at 12:44 Central Time. Night deadline was 10 AM Central Time. So we're looking at 9 hours before night ended, and no wolves popped in, saw that he was the seer, and killed him? I'm not sure I can buy that.

VOTE DARTH VILUS

claphamsa · 09-14-2009, 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Darth Vilus

If I die because of you I'm gonna be pissed. There is no honor in being killed by your own team. If I die you will see that I was truthful and that you should never have doubted me. I will be expecting an apology if that happens.

Every villager who doesn't have their head up their ass like pass vote lorena. if we lose a villager it might be the death of us all.

wow..... I feel some rage here.... where is RendeR

J23 · 09-14-2009, 01:21 PM

Do you have any explanation why you revealed at the time that you did Darth? I understand wanting to get out the info before you were potentially night killed, but 9 hours before night deadline is extremely reckless if you're the legit seer.

Darth Vilus · 09-14-2009, 01:22 PM

Fine i'll put everything G-rated now.

Everyone whoisn't a big meanie like that awful Pass, would please, please, please, pretty please vote for Ms. Lorena? It would be really super duper if you do :-)

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Originally Posted by claphamsa

wow..... I feel some rage here.... where is RendeR

Passacaglia · 09-14-2009, 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Darth Vilus

Sure no problem. it was just one hint and not that good though. This is the original post:

"I have to vote early because of work, normally I would wait to hear more about what the group is saying. For some reason I have a feeling that the wolves are people you wouldn't normally expect, and my feelings usually turn out to be right. So think about this first, think of 2 people you wouldn't vote for and vote for one of them. That's just my opinion.

And what the hell! Why does my date get knocked off! I swear revenge. Though i'm a free agent now

VOTE LORENA

I just think a woman wolf would be hilarious at the prom! It was either you Telle or LoneStarGirl. I apologize"

The first was that I knew Lorena was a wolf. I said vote for who u wouldn't expect. No one was expecting Lorena which is 1 and 2 is I voted for her, kind of a little nudge in that direction. The second is "and my feelings usually turn out to be right." This is both a reference to me in real life and the fact that i was the seer. It would indicate that i could "feel" or "see" who the wolves were. Put this with the other and u would be able to see lorena was a wolf. after seeing she was the group's trust with me would have went up a few notches.

And this part. "I just think a woman wolf would be hilarious at the prom! it was either you Telle or LoneStarGirl. I apologize" This was a lie. it was an attempt to shy suspicion away from me for being the seer so the wolves wouldn't kill me. Sadly the villagers would see it too. I i went out early winning the game woulda been tough. I decided not to drop anymore hints to avoid that scenario. i would only reveal when I had something good. i was trying to track down all three wolves but we started losing key players. Since it looked like no one was on the wolves's tails (hey get it, tails!?!) I had to act. even though i couldn't get them all we could get a few which would help with the ratio.

Does that answer the question? I know i know, it's not that good. But it was still early mind u. i figured the wolves would take out more experienced players first, and this would give me time to scan. I didn't see anymore reason to put suspicion on myself.

I do feel sorry about Kwhit though, it had to look like i didn't know much of anything.

That does answer it well enough for me. Like I said earlier, I'm not in favor of dropping hints that you're the seer (I don't think it's worth the risk of the wolves finding out), but if you're going to say you did, you better be able to point them out. It is nice how your hint even points to Lorena, but it's the kind of hint that could just be dropped if Lorena ended up dying. Also, it's of note that Lorena wasn't really the subject of much scrutiny before. Can you talk about why you chose her?

Also, have you thought about your scan for tonight? What would you think of scanning Chief Rum?

claphamsa · 09-14-2009, 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Darth Vilus

Fine i'll put everything G-rated now.

Everyone whoisn't a big meanie like that awful Pass, would please, please, please, pretty please vote for Ms. Lorena? It would be really super duper if you do :-)

no need to do that

its funnier when people get super mad (as long as the cool down after the game) Im sure you would be surprised how many of us have had temper meltdowns due to wW

Passacaglia · 09-14-2009, 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Darth Vilus

Fine i'll put everything G-rated now.

Everyone whoisn't a big meanie like that awful Pass, would please, please, please, pretty please vote for Ms. Lorena? It would be really super duper if you do :-)

Big meanie? Just remember that I've been vouched for by both seers, real and fake!

Telle · 09-14-2009, 01:27 PM

Votes as of post #424:

3 - Lorena - Lerriuqs (363), Telle (373), Darth (394)
1 - Darth - Pass (416)

Darth Vilus · 09-14-2009, 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Passacaglia

That does answer it well enough for me. Like I said earlier, I'm not in favor of dropping hints that you're the seer (I don't think it's worth the risk of the wolves finding out), but if you're going to say you did, you better be able to point them out. It is nice how your hint even points to Lorena, but it's the kind of hint that could just be dropped if Lorena ended up dying. Also, it's of note that Lorena wasn't really the subject of much scrutiny before. Can you talk about why you chose her?

Also, have you thought about your scan for tonight? What would you think of scanning Chief Rum?

Dude really? why did i pick Lorena? Do u mean to scan or to lynch? i obviously picked her to lynch because she was a wolf. as for the reason why i picked her it gets tricky. My original choice was hoopsguy since he was my partner. When I scanned that night i saw him being murdered by lorena. That's it really.

Passacaglia · 09-14-2009, 01:30 PM

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Dude really? why did i pick Lorena? Do u mean to scan or to lynch? i obviously picked her to lynch because she was a wolf. as for the reason why i picked her it gets tricky. My original choice was hoopsguy since he was my partner. When I scanned that night i saw him being murdered by lorena. That's it really.

Whoa whoa whoa -- so you're saying that you scanned hoopsguy, and by doing that, you found out that Lorena was evil?

claphamsa · 09-14-2009, 01:30 PM

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Dude really? why did i pick Lorena? Do u mean to scan or to lynch? i obviously picked her to lynch because she was a wolf. as for the reason why i picked her it gets tricky. My original choice was hoopsguy since he was my partner. When I scanned that night i saw him being murdered by lorena. That's it really.

that doesnt track with the rules....

keep digging

Passacaglia · 09-14-2009, 01:31 PM

And yes, I was asking why you scanned Lorena, not why you wanted to lynch her. But now, you're saying you didn't scan Lorena, but actually hoopsguy?

Darth Vilus · 09-14-2009, 01:33 PM

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Whoa whoa whoa -- so you're saying that you scanned hoopsguy, and by doing that, you found out that Lorena was evil?

Yep, and now that i siad that everyone is gonna start whining "that's cheating that's cheating he gets 2?" It doesn't count as two here. I eavesdrop on people and findout what they are doing at the time which shows me their allegiance. Hoopsguy died that night so obviously i would be able to see who killed him.

Passacaglia · 09-14-2009, 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Telle

Votes as of post #424:

3 - Lorena - Lerriuqs (363), Telle (373), Darth (394)
1 - Darth - Pass (416)

I believe that clap has a vote for Darth also.

lerriuqs · 09-14-2009, 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Lathum

Gossip Queen- You hear and see everything. Once per night you may eavesdrop on a player to discover their allegiance.

I don't know whether to believe Darth or not, but I point back to the rules...

Passacaglia · 09-14-2009, 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Darth Vilus

Yep, and now that i siad that everyone is gonna start whining "that's cheating that's cheating he gets 2?" It doesn't count as two here. I eavesdrop on people and findout what they are doing at the time which shows me their allegiance. Hoopsguy died that night so obviously i would be able to see who killed him.

Most of the time, the role of the seer doesn't work that way. There have definitely been games where it has worked like that, but it's pretty rare. Most of the time, if the person you scanned dies, you've basically just wasted your scan.

Passacaglia · 09-14-2009, 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by lerriuqs

I don't know whether to believe Darth or not, but I point back to the rules...

I saw that too lerriuqs. I wasn't sure if that was part of the defintion of the role, or part of the 'flavor of the character' or justification for why the role of 'gossip queen' is being equated to 'seer' -- you know what I mean?

claphamsa · 09-14-2009, 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by lerriuqs

I don't know whether to believe Darth or not, but I point back to the rules...

yeah, i guess i was looking at the evesdroping part, I think this must include eyesdropping too!

Darth Vilus · 09-14-2009, 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Passacaglia

Most of the time, the role of the seer doesn't work that way. There have definitely been games where it has worked like that, but it's pretty rare. Most of the time, if the person you scanned dies, you've basically just wasted your scan.

I've already stated this role is a little different. I eavesdrop not scan homie. i just say scan because that's what you're all used to. basically i sneak around each night and see what people are up to.

Passacaglia · 09-14-2009, 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Darth Vilus

I've already stated this role is a little different. I eavesdrop not scan homie. i just say scan because that's what you're all used to. basically i sneak around each night and see what people are up to.

The problem is the wording of the second sentence. You may eavesdrop on a player to discover their allegiance. Whatever word you use for it, the details of what it does are told right there. You find out the allegiance of the person on whom you have eavesdropped. And you did not eavesdrop on Lorena, correct?

Also, you didn't answer about scanning, I mean eavesdropping on, Chief Rum. I ask because, frankly, that's who I think is coaching you.

lerriuqs · 09-14-2009, 01:44 PM

FTR, I believe Darth is right and if he is - This game is already over with the wolves winning...

Darth Vilus · 09-14-2009, 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Passacaglia

The problem is the wording of the second sentence. You may eavesdrop on a player to discover their allegiance. Whatever word you use for it, the details of what it does are told right there. You find out the allegiance of the person on whom you have eavesdropped. And you did not eavesdrop on Lorena, correct?

Also, you didn't answer about scanning, I mean eavesdropping on, Chief Rum. I ask because, frankly, that's who I think is coaching you.

why would i answer when the wolves can see him it too? if it upsets you i can do it but i doubt my results will matter since i believe on being murdered by tomorrow one way or the other. I'll eavesdrop on him though but i believe it will be wasted. it was either him or J23 anyway as my next eavesdrop.

Passacaglia · 09-14-2009, 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by lerriuqs

FTR, I believe Darth is right and if he is - This game is already over with the wolves winning...

If he's right, how could the wolves be winning?

Passacaglia · 09-14-2009, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Darth Vilus

why would i answer when the wolves can see him it too?

huh?

lerriuqs · 09-14-2009, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Passacaglia

If he's right, how could the wolves be winning?

If LSG is the outcast, this game's over. Think about it.

Schmidty · 09-14-2009, 01:51 PM

Well, that sucks.

And no one is mourning me!!!!!

claphamsa · 09-14-2009, 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Schmidty

Well, that sucks.

And no one is mourning me!!!!!

i was gonna mourn you! but you dont love me......

Darth Vilus · 09-14-2009, 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Passacaglia

huh?

i meant why would i tell the wolves who im eavesdropping on. what is the point of that? and this is what my role says as per the rules:

Gossip Queen: You hear and see everything. once per night you may eavesdrop on a player to discover their allegiance.

Passacaglia · 09-14-2009, 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by lerriuqs

If LSG is the outcast, this game's over. Think about it.

Because she can change a vote? I think for the game to be over in that case, we'd have to have 4 wolves, which seems high for a 14-player game.

09-14-2009, 01:51 PM	#447
Schmidty Coordinator Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Early, TX	Well, that sucks. And no one is mourning me!!!!! __________________ Just beat the devil out of it!!! - Bob Ross

09-14-2009, 12:40 PM	#408
Passacaglia Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Big Ten Country	Darth, can you tell us what hints you were referring to?

09-14-2009, 12:54 PM	#414
Passacaglia Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Big Ten Country	Also, clap, did you make any hints?

09-14-2009, 01:04 PM	#416
Passacaglia Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Big Ten Country	Okay, so I just looked at the timestamps. Darth posted his reveal at 12:44 Central Time. Night deadline was 10 AM Central Time. So we're looking at 9 hours before night ended, and no wolves popped in, saw that he was the seer, and killed him? I'm not sure I can buy that. VOTE DARTH VILUS

09-14-2009, 01:07 PM	#417
Lorena Unregistered Join Date: May 2004	I see Darth here and I'm waiting for him to say something as I keep refreshing the page. I have some errands to run but I'll be back in a bit.

09-14-2009, 01:21 PM	#424
J23 College Benchwarmer Join Date: Jul 2009	Do you have any explanation why you revealed at the time that you did Darth? I understand wanting to get out the info before you were potentially night killed, but 9 hours before night deadline is extremely reckless if you're the legit seer.

09-14-2009, 01:27 PM	#429
Telle College Starter Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Buffalo, NY	Votes as of post #424: 3 - Lorena - Lerriuqs (363), Telle (373), Darth (394) 1 - Darth - Pass (416)

09-14-2009, 01:31 PM	#433
Passacaglia Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Big Ten Country	And yes, I was asking why you scanned Lorena, not why you wanted to lynch her. But now, you're saying you didn't scan Lorena, but actually hoopsguy?

09-14-2009, 01:44 PM	#442
lerriuqs High School Varsity Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Saskatchewan	FTR, I believe Darth is right and if he is - This game is already over with the wolves winning...

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