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Old 07-14-2009, 09:50 AM   #2801
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Old 07-14-2009, 10:00 AM   #2802
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wow...that is a powerful conversion mechanic....so if we started with 3 or 4, we could be looking at as many as 7 wolves.

anyone know off the top of their head how many nights there were 2 kills vs how many nights there was only one?

lets keep this ball rolling, so far the list has been 2 for 2

vote isiddiqui

If post #3 is correct it looks like:

Day 1 - 0
Day 2 - 2
Day 3 - 2
Day 4 - 1
Day 5 - 1
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Old 07-14-2009, 10:01 AM   #2803
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Dola, but DT says there was an attempt on him somewhere in there as well, day 4 IIRC.
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Old 07-14-2009, 10:13 AM   #2804
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Vote ISiddiqui

Either him or EF are the remaining wolf/wolves.
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Old 07-14-2009, 10:37 AM   #2805
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Either him or EF are the remaining wolf/wolves.

I guess you didn't read Thom's role closely?

I can now see that Thom was playing me, or testing me, by telling a different name for cunning. I have no doubt in my mind that person was a convert at least, his play has been perfect for that.

Lynch DT and I give you that name. There may be more but I don't know them for certain, though I suspect.
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Old 07-14-2009, 10:44 AM   #2806
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Old 07-14-2009, 11:52 AM   #2807
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no. we look at the list first. all that matters is henry's verification as of that date. looking after that time period how many conversions could there have been - that's when we start to worry about converts

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Old 07-14-2009, 11:53 AM   #2808
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first we lynch the rest of that list, then we worry about how many converts there could have been since then and who they would be.
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Old 07-14-2009, 12:10 PM   #2809
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Here's the plan everyone:

DT first, then I give you the remaining list and you win as well. It's a very easy plan to follow.
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Old 07-14-2009, 12:12 PM   #2810
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Old 07-14-2009, 12:16 PM   #2811
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Old 07-14-2009, 12:20 PM   #2812
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EF, i think it is safe to say that there is no one that is going to help you lynch DT at this point...you can probably stop asking every 10 posts.
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Old 07-14-2009, 12:22 PM   #2813
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EF, i think it is safe to say that there is no one that is going to help you lynch DT at this point...you can probably stop asking every 10 posts.

lol

isiddiqui, then EF, then we worry about how many people thomkal could have converted since henry's reveal
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Old 07-14-2009, 12:24 PM   #2814
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how about waiting for the post game before making comments that involve how the game was played

Sorry, saldana. All of the particulars in that exchange were dead so I figured that was okay to comment. I'll cease and desist.
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Old 07-14-2009, 12:40 PM   #2815
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I think with EF's constant strangeness, he may be a wolf or converted into a wolf. Just seems bizarre behavior.
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Old 07-14-2009, 01:39 PM   #2816
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I think with EF's constant strangeness, he may be a wolf or converted into a wolf. Just seems bizarre behavior.

you would know, so why dont you just admit it....while you are at it, let us know if there are any other ones out there. besides the two of you
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Old 07-14-2009, 01:55 PM   #2817
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you would know, so why dont you just admit it....while you are at it, let us know if there are any other ones out there. besides the two of you

I'm not a wolf. Vote DT, make history and then get the full list from me.

Don't you want to make history? Don't you want to be able to say "I was in THAT game"? Don't you want to say "I was in THAT game and I DID IT!"?

Why just settle for plain vanilla when you can have a sundae with ALL the extras?
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Old 07-14-2009, 02:19 PM   #2818
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Old 07-14-2009, 02:43 PM   #2819
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Old 07-14-2009, 02:53 PM   #2820
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Sorry I've been out so much today. I got a virus on my laptop and have been trying to clean it for the last 10 hours. Good times.

Since the discussion today didn't change much from yesterday (with the possibility of more wolves than we thought):

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Old 07-14-2009, 03:30 PM   #2821
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Sorry I've been out so much today. I got a virus on my laptop and have been trying to clean it for the last 10 hours. Good times.

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Old 07-14-2009, 03:37 PM   #2822
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you would know, so why dont you just admit it....while you are at it, let us know if there are any other ones out there. besides the two of you

Admit what? I'm a villager. The only thing I've done wrong is not have an easily testable power. I'm not the one who's decided to go all strange and attempted to lynch DT.
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Old 07-14-2009, 04:08 PM   #2823
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Admit what? I'm a villager. The only thing I've done wrong is not have an easily testable power. I'm not the one who's decided to go all strange and attempted to lynch DT.


I know you're new to the game so I'll suggest that if you are good now would be a good time to reveal who you are and what your ability is. Otherwise you are going to be lynched.

You might be anyway, but there's no doubt at this point without a credible reveal.
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Old 07-14-2009, 04:26 PM   #2824
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Well, if that's the only way...

As I've told DT in a PM earlier, I'm James Heller. My ability is to be able to make any other person into a "Government Official" which allowed them to potentially gain some added benefits (I see one of the things that could have happened is some extra protection benefits).
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Old 07-14-2009, 04:30 PM   #2825
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Well, if that's the only way...

As I've told DT in a PM earlier, I'm James Heller. My ability is to be able to make any other person into a "Government Official" which allowed them to potentially gain some added benefits (I see one of the things that could have happened is some extra protection benefits).

Have you used that power? Can anyone verify that you have, such as the person you used it on?
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Old 07-14-2009, 04:52 PM   #2826
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I volunteer for that power to be used on me. It can clear both IS and me and we can move on to the real threat.

DT has already spread a virus to one person in an attempt to keep him from voting. STOP the madness. VOTE DT!!!
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Old 07-14-2009, 05:01 PM   #2827
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Old 07-14-2009, 05:04 PM   #2828
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Who do you think we should vote for, EF?
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Old 07-14-2009, 05:05 PM   #2829
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Well, this game is sure going out with a whimper. I good whimper, but still.

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Old 07-14-2009, 05:05 PM   #2830
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Who do you think we should vote for, EF?

Um, hmmmmm. I have a hunch. Could it be DT?
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Old 07-14-2009, 05:06 PM   #2831
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Might as well add some excitement...

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Old 07-14-2009, 05:24 PM   #2833
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Have you used that power? Can anyone verify that you have, such as the person you used it on?

I've asked DT to specify who to use it on (remember the whole "it's not lethal" discussion). So no, kinda was waiting on DT.
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Old 07-14-2009, 05:32 PM   #2834
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I've asked DT to specify who to use it on (remember the whole "it's not lethal" discussion). So no, kinda was waiting on DT.

Well, if it's non-lethal, try it on me.

I'd hurry though, I don't know how many more lynch votes it's going to take.
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Old 07-14-2009, 05:32 PM   #2835
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Old 07-14-2009, 05:35 PM   #2836
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I have been waiting for DT to give me the go-ahead on someone. I believe you are on the trust list, but if you don't mind, I'll wait for Jack Bauer's direction.
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Old 07-14-2009, 05:37 PM   #2837
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I have been waiting for DT to give me the go-ahead on someone. I believe you are on the trust list, but if you don't mind, I'll wait for Jack Bauer's direction.

I've just proved I was the duke when I moved the vote to Autumn, the cunning wolf. If that doesn't have me on the trust list nothing does.
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Old 07-14-2009, 05:38 PM   #2838
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Oh, I believe you are most likely on the trust list. Of course with us finding out that the wolves had a conversion power, I want to be sure I use my power on who DT wants me too based on his knowledge.
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Old 07-14-2009, 05:41 PM   #2839
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OK, but I'm sure you'll have to understand that if you're not willing to prove your power to someone on the trust list while you're on the block then the only reasonable conclusion I can come to is that you are bad.

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Old 07-14-2009, 05:43 PM   #2840
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Dola, "on the trust list" should be revised to "who has just proved their power in thread".

I'm just assuming that cements me on the trust list.
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Old 07-14-2009, 05:44 PM   #2841
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Even after we've uncovered a convert ability? Who is to say that you weren't converted after you got Autumn? I don't think its being all that unreasonable to say I want DT to give me the guidance. If you think I'm being overly cautious, it is only because we KNOW that the wolves were able to convert.
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Old 07-14-2009, 05:48 PM   #2842
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Even after we've uncovered a convert ability? Who is to say that you weren't converted after you got Autumn? I don't think its being all that unreasonable to say I want DT to give me the guidance. If you think I'm being overly cautious, it is only because we KNOW that the wolves were able to convert.

DT would have no better read on a possible convert than anyone else. And I am the last person to have demonstrated a power in thread. There was exactly one chance for me to be converted after that because after PurdueBrad was killed Thomkal was lynched immediately afterwards.

I was really just trying to give you a chance to prove your innocence in the best way I could think of.
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Old 07-14-2009, 05:52 PM   #2843
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As shown, on some nights the wolves have had two night kills. I think that means on the nights of one night kill, like when PB was killed, there is a very good chance that a conversion was done.

So, it is possible.

And DT may have other ways of finding out, such as the interrogation power he mentioned, but didn't use, yesterday. That could tell for sure, I'd imagine.
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Old 07-14-2009, 05:55 PM   #2844
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As shown, on some nights the wolves have had two night kills. I think that means on the nights of one night kill, like when PB was killed, there is a very good chance that a conversion was done.

So, it is possible.

And DT may have other ways of finding out, such as the interrogation power he mentioned, but didn't use, yesterday. That could tell for sure, I'd imagine.

Very true.

You'll be lynched by then though.
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Old 07-14-2009, 05:56 PM   #2845
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It seems to me that everyone follows DT when he says something. So I want to be doubly sure and let DT do the picking. I don't want to take any chances of picking the wrong person or someone DT doesn't want to use my power on and have him put me over the top.
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Old 07-14-2009, 05:58 PM   #2846
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It does seem a bit strange to me that you pushed for me to reveal my power and then are pushing to have it be used on you. Like you've been assuming a DT like role in demanding info.

Maybe I should have been a bit more wary when you asked me to declare my power publicly. Especially after we found out about the wolves' conversion abilities.
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Old 07-14-2009, 06:05 PM   #2847
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It does seem a bit strange to me that you pushed for me to reveal my power and then are pushing to have it be used on you. Like you've been assuming a DT like role in demanding info.

Maybe I should have been a bit more wary when you asked me to declare my power publicly. Especially after we found out about the wolves' conversion abilities.



I hope you've enjoyed the game and try another. You've got the makings of a WW player with that one.

But to answer honestly, my power is used up so all I can do now is try to prove/disprove people in thread.

If you're good you're going to die without using your power and I'm as good a choice as anyone.

If you're bad then you really don't have a power to use and would likely try and come up with a reason for not having to demonstrate a power you don't have. By waiting for DT, for example.

So what this has done is tell me that the more likely reason is that you are a wolf. That's all this was for me.

Leaving for home. Be back later to see how it turns out.
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Old 07-14-2009, 06:28 PM   #2848
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I volunteer for that power to be used on me. It can clear both IS and me and we can move on to the real threat.

DT has already spread a virus to one person in an attempt to keep him from voting. STOP the madness. VOTE DT!!!

nothing will clear EF in my mind
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Old 07-14-2009, 06:30 PM   #2849
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you can use it on Path if you want ISiddiqui. he's right - i have no better read on who could have been converted at this point than him. i'm also not sure how it works, who it can be used on and such. go ahead and try it though
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