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Old 12-25-2021, 11:03 AM   #351
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The 96 Ricky opened in the mid 400s, I was trying to buy lower, it’s already slid up to 550…ugh
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Old 12-25-2021, 11:28 AM   #352
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I may have been insufficiently greedy… sold in tiers upward, now my last batch at 259,999 look like they may go at that price. $$$$$
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Old 12-25-2021, 11:45 AM   #353
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New all time high of 6.5M in cash, plus 2x 96 Ricky cards. This paid off really well.
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Old 12-25-2021, 12:16 PM   #354
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Market abruptly off a cliff to about 6 this morning… I’m treating it as if it’s very temporary and buying cards for training, just in case. Gonna need to juice up my new Ricky, at the very least, right?
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Old 12-25-2021, 12:16 PM   #355
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Will try to ignore the 90 Ricky cards currently selling near 400k. Wow.
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Old 12-25-2021, 01:06 PM   #356
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So, my instincts were correct for the most part… I was right at the car was coming, I was right about the direction of the prices on each of the components. I made lots of small chunks of coins by buying up and selling the component parts of the Ricky Williams set, frequently clearing 10 K on a card that’s worth 2K. I was also right that the 90 card would go up in price while there was immediate demand today, and I made a handsome profit doing so. What I underestimated was the magnitude of the change there, in particular. I was buying cards as high as 110, thinking that my eventual sale price might be something like 150. As prices kept going up I kept selling off a few more and more, 160, 190, 220… I just was not imaginative enough to see the card going into the high 300s. So, I made plenty of money buying at 110 and selling at 220, somebody else made lots of money buying at my 220 and selling at 375. So it goes.
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Old 12-25-2021, 09:53 PM   #357
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Looks like I figured this more or less correctly… the market abruptly dropped from ~10 to ~6 … I missed that moment but did a lot of buying while I could buy 91 cards at around 6.5 per. So that’s a nice cache of training if/when I need it.

Picked up some Ravens cards too. :whistles and looks away:

Now the prices have drifted up to 8… so this doesn’t feel like a fundamental change arising from something like a big pack odds change.

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Old 12-27-2021, 02:26 PM   #358
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So, among the special 96 cards that were available to people who had special presents under their tree on the 25th… There was a goofball Derrick Henry as a quarterback card. I have mentioned my general disdain for these out of position weird cards, but the potential is there for this card to be very fun to play with… If he is a genuinely fast and frighteningly powerful runner who can at least throw credibly well, that could be pretty entertaining.

Now, while I was spending most of my energy on Ricky Williams… The market for this card was going berserk. By night time on the 25th, it was selling for around 1.2 million coins.

EA then made an announcement that they were going to make available these special Christmas present cards as limited time only, available in packs, for 48 hours each. Derek Henry’s card is currently available, and will be through Wednesday morning. I don’t know what the play is here, I remain pretty confident that this card will be popular and interesting, and in demand after its availability is over… But with the extra wave of cards becoming available through this LTD availability, will that add supply, and reduce prices? I have bought three copies of the card today, at around 500 K apiece. My instinct is to spend almost all of my money buying this card, to get eight or nine copies, in hopes that in a week or two they are back to 900 K or so. But my confidence is not especially high that this will be true. So, I expect I will keep these three Derrick Henry cards, carry one extra Ricky Williams card, and buy one extra Marlon Humphrey card, in hopes that they all appreciate in value in the short to medium term… And then I can sell them at a 50% markup in two weeks or so.

We’ll see. Confidence not high here.
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Old 12-27-2021, 03:31 PM   #359
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Even if this bet pays off overall, I missed the market “bottom” for sure… Henry at just under 400K right now, wow.
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Old 12-27-2021, 06:37 PM   #360
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So, what the hell… Since I have 96 Derrick Henry sitting on my roster at quarterback, and I have been grousing about feeling unfulfilled at quarterback… Why not connect the obvious dots here? I now have a roster with a powered up Derrick Henry, a maxed out Ricky Williams, and my best possible office of line, surrounded by a still maxed out dolphins chemistry roster. This is going to be interesting for a while. This running game is very hard to stop… I just run RPO plays and pick between two devastating ball carriers. Henry is barely adequate as a passer but who cares?
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Old 12-28-2021, 01:04 PM   #361
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Apparently, EA messed up yesterday and failed to get these 96 players into the packs that people were opening, trying to get the special players. Short version is, this kind of thing happens apparently, and usually there is a so-called make right to compensate those who were harmed by the mistake. That may mean a wave of free 96 cards being handed out to people who acted in good faith… And that could depress the price of these two cards long-term. I think I’m sitting on four copies of Henry, and two copies of the safety… It’s possible I just end up substantially upside down on those theoretical investments.

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Old 12-29-2021, 08:24 PM   #362
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Current status - of the LTD 99 cards I’ve mentioned:
5x Derrick Henry QB
3x Isaiah Simmons
3x Ricky Williams
1x Marlon Humphrey

Just below 3m in cash/coins
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Old 12-30-2021, 02:02 PM   #363
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The 96 cards that were available Mon-Tue this week as “limited” crashed to basically minimum pricing: they quick sell for 250,000 coins, so posting at around 278Kvis a break even offering for the seller. I bought several, and now only two days later there are signs they will generate at least some profit… selling into the 330-350 range today.

The 96 Ricky Williams and Marlon Humphrey are still available under 300k as they’re in packs through today and there’s little else to do in game right now.

Overall market is way up… cheapest training is around 11, I’m surprised. Maybe I ought to sell off the 10-15 91 cards I had been sitting on for training… seems like this has to be a high water mark.
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Old 01-04-2022, 08:58 PM   #364
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Just nothing to write about. Market is up a bit, as we're in "staleflation" when there's no new content so people who want to do something (especially those who just got the game for Xmas) just go and buy cards out there for sale... demand remains high, while there's little new content.

Rumor is a new wave of players coming this week... maybe another Team Builders or something similar, a one-per-team program designed to help the theme teams out there who are lacking here or there. I'd welcome that.

Playoff cards will be coming fairly soon, and that will mean extra cards for the teams in the NFL playoffs this year...for my Browns, Dolphins, and even maybe Ravens.... not so much. Ugh.
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Old 01-04-2022, 09:00 PM   #365
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Right now I am playing a Miami-based roster, but with only the required 50 Dolphins to max out those players with chemistry bonuses, and then other MPA guys sprinkled in elsewhere. QB Derrick Henry is absurd, SS Simmons is pretty nutso as well. It will do until one of my theme teams gains a new in-scheme high end QB and then I will switch back to a pure theme team from either CLE or MIA.
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Old 01-05-2022, 10:29 PM   #366
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Looks like the market dropped today from 10+ to around 9. Beats me. Who the fuck cares? I’m bored.

Campus Heroes coming Friday, so a batch on basically random “good player” cards. What might alter my mood? RG3? Bernie Kosar? Daunte Culpepper? Keith Jackson? I dunno…
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Old 01-07-2022, 09:36 AM   #367
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Market down to around 8.5... I still don't know why, I'm assuming it's related to the swell of 96 cards (non-tradeable) handed out as "make-rights" for a server glitch several days ago. Everyone affected got a free pick of QB Derrick Henry or SS Simmons - two of the glitchiest cards in the game. So their price is now depressed, perhaps permanently, bad for my "investments" of maybe 10 of them, combined.

Campus Heroes out later this morning (only 94s, so not advancing the envelope at all, just fill-ins I guess), so far zero cards I have seen that fit any of my teams and so my yawnfest continues. I have a vent on the QB Henry card I could let loose here, if I gather the motivation to type it up.

Whatevs.
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Old 01-07-2022, 10:52 PM   #368
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So, among the 10+2 boss Campus Heroes from today we yet again get one guy who made his name elsewhere but grabbed a snack in Cleveland while washed up, OLB Brad Van Pelt. Looks fine, I’ll grind some challenges to get him, but I’m not going to get excited about him. Meh.

Miami totally strikes out, just like with the whole Bo Knows program. Kiddo’s Chargers also get zip.
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Old 01-08-2022, 12:22 PM   #369
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The market is down pretty substantially today, 91 rated cards that quick sale for 7000 training… I am finding them reliably for 45K or less. That’s back down to a training price of 6 1/2 or thereabouts… Which we have not seen for weeks. I’m going to buy several, just in case this is temporary, but I’m hoping this is a general realignment.
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Old 01-09-2022, 07:53 AM   #370
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Online trackers show the market down around 6… so there must have been some pack odds change to make this happen. Last year I don’t think things got a lot lower than this level, so… maybe here it is?

Servers down during my bout of insomnia natch.
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Old 01-09-2022, 10:29 AM   #371
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So, I am now motivated by lack of something interesting to do, taking another look at all the component parts of the Andre Rison set, one of the team diamonds series that was pretty hot several weeks ago. My theory is that many of these plays are showing up again in higher level form… EA is cheap enough to have limited the number of players in the game, reducing costs and buying their rights.

If I’m right, Rison is a big enough name, that if he shows up again as a 9697 or 98 level player, he will be in big demand… He also played for multiple teams, and that adds to his value for those of us doing theme teams. Many such people will be looking for his 90 card to do a full power up, and that should drive up the cost not only of those cards, but also the component parts of its set. What was once a very lively market for these various gold cards has very much cold, and I am just scooping them up for 2000 coins and under… In hopes that the market will one day go bonkers again, and I can pick up these dusty old cards and sell them for 5000, 10,000, 20,000, whatever the ridiculous market might bear.

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Old 01-11-2022, 11:40 AM   #372
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Today, a new wave of "Team of the Week" cards pent up as they held back this program for a few weeks. This wave might give me something to do, at least, as there are multiple impacts on my theme teams:

Dolphins:

-a 92 Duke Johnson card, in the receiving back archetype, likely better than the Reggie Bush I have been running as my complement to Big Ricky, nice

-a 92 Jakeem Grant WR card, which has blazing speed but tiny size, but likely to step in as our lead PR/KR and in the rotation for jet sweeps, etc

Browns:

-a 97 Limited Edition (expensive) Odell Beckham JR card (harkening back to his heyday with the NYG), suddenly probably the best receiver in the game and WAY better than anything on the Browns theme team, wow

-a low-rated 85 card for Miles Garrett, which means he will have an additional +1 on his power-up card for now (though I'm hoping he also gets a Team of the Year or season awards card soon to max out)



Pretty big impacts, after a few weeks of feeling fairly neglected.
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Old 01-11-2022, 09:08 PM   #373
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Old 01-13-2022, 10:47 AM   #374
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Old 01-13-2022, 01:04 PM   #375
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It appears that the market has settled, and the new training price is around 4 1/2 coins. That’s great, even though I was pretty heavily invested in cards purchased at a training price of around six… This is still on balance pretty good news.

I am not paying as close attention as I was earlier this year… Function of many things… But I presume that there were some new packs available in the E a store that were more generous in turning out quality cards at relatively low prices. Generally speaking, it’s just a matter of time until the change in park odds results in an overall realignment in the market… That seems very likely to be what has happened here.

Anyway…10 days ago a boring 92 rated card (10,000 training) was selling for about 90-100K. Then they bumped down to the 60-ish range. Now 40K if you’re lucky. Just recalibrate, this feels permanent.
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Old 01-14-2022, 06:03 PM   #376
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Well, a lot going on in Madden world, not a lot for me I'm still sorta bored.
I have grabbed the two new 92 Dolphins cards, and have put some time into playing with them - Jakeem Grant is indeed a nifty return guy, super-agile. Duke Johnson is an improvement on the Reggie Bush card as my 3rd down back, but to be honest Ricky Williams is still probably better than Duke in that capacity, despite not being as shifty - he's just that good overall.

Still playing Dolphins-50 with non-theme players sprinkled in, and out-of-position Derrick Henry at QB.

It's dumb, Henry plays more or less like a powerful but mobile QB... he's basically the same card as, say, Jalen Hurts. Instead of making these OOP cards physical freaks who are lacking in position-specific skills, they have made them into titanic stars who carry over most of their base athletic skills and then magically have plenty-good-enough pure skills for their fake positions. We get it, real life Derrick Henry occasionally tosses a 9 yard TD pass to a wide open guy on a trick play. And I would be just fine with an OOP card letting him be a RB behind center, who can pass the ball at a just-barely-adequate level... got it, fine. Sort of like running a full time wildcat offense, fine. But making him a precise, solid passer -- like as effective as most NFL starters at routine 15-yard-out timing patterns against man coverage? Dumb.

Same goes for DK Metcalf at CB -- don't give him great "cover skills" just make him a tall strong athlete who could line up at the position and sometimes outjump the other guy. Not a lock down cover man, too. Bo Jackson at MLB, Calvin Johnson at FS, on and on. It's a stupid perversion of football, and I hate that using guys like this is essentially the way to make your team the best it can be.

Browns got a 95 Baker, and I just bought it... I will likely buy the new 97 Joel Bitonio and power him up to be my first 98 rated player. OBJ is super expensive, over 1.5M and I just couldn't bite the bullet for more than half my cash, so I guess i sit him out -- I will be able to power up my current OBJ to something like 94-95 and he will be a new WR1 for Baker. Irony abounds, running back to run the Browns team so I can feast on the Baker-to-Odell connection when both sides of that have since fallen apart in real life.

Alas.
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Old 01-14-2022, 07:16 PM   #377
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Agreed, the OOP stuff would be way more fun/interesting if they came with a downside to really make you have to play the game differently vs, as you say, just having an all around star at the spot. Glad to see you got some solid additions for the Browns team, even if it means a pretty ironic way to light things up.
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Old Yesterday, 10:07 AM   #378
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Thanks... I'm guessing this weekend will be a return to a pure Browns team for me.
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Old Yesterday, 07:44 PM   #379
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Bruins team re-engaged. The 97 OBJ just got away from me… opened around 1.5M, stopped to maybe 1.3, but now up around 1.8 as there’s no more supply (two day limited edition card). So, mine is powered up to 95, as far as I can go without the boss card.

Same story, smaller numbers with the 97 Bitonio. It dropped to around 360 and I waited in hope of it falling further. Now at 500 and I feel like a fool, burned by the 10-12 96-rated cards I’m still sitting on. Ugh.
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