Werewolf CLX - Atlantic City - GAME OVER - Page 20

murrayyyyy · 04-30-2013, 05:18 PM

Damn, get home and there is no reason to vote again... oh well...

Darth Vilus · 04-30-2013, 05:58 PM

vote zinto

I will be around more tomorrow. Had a busy start to the week

Autumn · 04-30-2013, 06:54 PM

Day Six Voting

3 Murrayyyyy -------- Coffee Warlord (Nightfall), path12 (932), Zinto (949)
7 Zinto --------------- Mauchow (912), narcizo (915), JAG (922), The Jackal (924), britrock88 (927), chief rum (935), darth vilus (952)

EagleFan · 04-30-2013, 06:55 PM

You guys rock... that is all... continue playing...

murrayyyyy · 04-30-2013, 07:18 PM

vote murra5y

Haven't voted in forever and I win my bet tonight so what does it matter.

mauchow · 04-30-2013, 07:32 PM

What's the reasoning for that vote?

murrayyyyy · 04-30-2013, 07:46 PM

Besides boredom, nothing really.

Just want to see if anyone would move on me to see where everyone bet. I can pull my vote off myself to save me just as easily.

Autumn · 04-30-2013, 08:02 PM

Deadline

Autumn · 04-30-2013, 08:02 PM

Both Murray and Zinto are hauled in for intense questioning today. In the end it's decided that the city resources will be spent in investigating Zinto. He is arrested while a team of detectives comb his home. They find evidence of money laundering, extortion and an illicit trade in knockoff Beanie Babies. "I'll kill you all, you dirty rats," he yells as they lock him away.

Zinto was a member of the Las Vegas Mafia.

path12 · 04-30-2013, 08:09 PM

So if you count Danny as Atlantic City pre-conversion that is two Atlantic City and two Vegas. Are we thinking 3 each side?

Autumn · 04-30-2013, 08:11 PM

DAY SIX WINNING BIDS
Mick "Stones" McGee - $1,066
Donna Black Investigations - $900
Cookie's Ladies - $0
Sandy Back Messenger Service - $0
Casino2Casino Wire Transfer - $0
Eternity Investments - $0
Freddie von Maur, Casino Manager - $0

BLACK MARKET SERVICES - HIRE AT YOUR OWN RISK
The Money Hole - $0
"Smiling Jane" Smith, thief - $0
Jamie Monteray, hitman - $3,412

path12 · 04-30-2013, 08:14 PM

I guess the next question regards the fact that Zinto used the seer to clear Jackal, who had given us his Vegas compatriot fontesian.

So either Jackal is Vegas and went for trust by framing font and then get cleared by Zinto -- or Zinto tried to get some cred by clearing Jackal.

If someone trusted gets the seer it seems like it would not be a bad idea to rescan Jackal.

path12 · 04-30-2013, 08:15 PM

Also too, unless someone else had $3,412 on them it looks like I have the hitman.

JAG · 04-30-2013, 08:18 PM

Good, I have the BG so murra5y can't guard himself.

mauchow · 04-30-2013, 08:19 PM

I won nothing tonight, thinking I might be able to land the Seer back to back nights. Oh, well. Worth a shot and at least someone had to still pay a decent sum for it.

And wow, Path. THat's a haul! Most I've won in a night was afew hundo.

JAG · 04-30-2013, 08:19 PM

And no one hired Cookie's ladies so you can't be slutted. Anything to report about the black market purchase?

JAG · 04-30-2013, 08:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by path12

I guess the next question regards the fact that Zinto used the seer to clear Jackal, who had given us his Vegas compatriot fontesian.

So either Jackal is Vegas and went for trust by framing font and then get cleared by Zinto -- or Zinto tried to get some cred by clearing Jackal.

If someone trusted gets the seer it seems like it would not be a bad idea to rescan Jackal.

That seems really risky though because if Zinto gets busted, it ruins the trust for Jackal. Jackal already had some trust from busting font so he didn't need Zinto to give him a boost. Remember, that also would've made Jackal a target for the other team too.

Autumn · 04-30-2013, 08:24 PM

Everything should be processed. Please let me know if not. All bids for tomorrow's lynch are due by 9 am EST

path12 · 04-30-2013, 08:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JAG

That seems really risky though because if Zinto gets busted, it ruins the trust for Jackal. Jackal already had some trust from busting font so he didn't need Zinto to give him a boost. Remember, that also would've made Jackal a target for the other team too.

So your take would be that it was just Zinto trying to gain himself some trust then.

path12 · 04-30-2013, 08:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mauchow

I won nothing tonight, thinking I might be able to land the Seer back to back nights. Oh, well. Worth a shot and at least someone had to still pay a decent sum for it.

And wow, Path. THat's a haul! Most I've won in a night was afew hundo.

Like I said earlier, that casino manager bid got me a nice haul. Broke now though.

path12 · 04-30-2013, 08:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JAG

And no one hired Cookie's ladies so you can't be slutted. Anything to report about the black market purchase?

Other than my house being cased, being tailed and a bug on my phone? Not yet. But that doesn't sound great for the future.

JAG · 04-30-2013, 08:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by path12

So your take would be that it was just Zinto trying to gain himself some trust then.

That's my guess at least, seems illogical to me otherwise. It worked for a while, except those that thought Jackal was a weird target.

Coffee Warlord · 04-30-2013, 08:56 PM

So...no wolf bought anything? Wowser.

Coffee Warlord · 04-30-2013, 08:58 PM

Ah, there was only one hitman tonight.

Coffee Warlord · 04-30-2013, 09:02 PM

So...anyone wanna recap who we've scanned that actually came up as good?

Coffee Warlord · 04-30-2013, 09:04 PM

Don't believe it would be useful for us to rescan until we've looked at all possible contestants. The person who called them okay would be much more likely to be bad than the scan target.

JAG · 04-30-2013, 09:07 PM

DV and myself. Wolves bought one ("cleared" Jackal) and the other scans have been wolves.

path12 · 04-30-2013, 09:09 PM

Orders and bet for tomorrow in. I'll check in again before I go to bed to make sure no revisions are needed.

Coffee Warlord · 04-30-2013, 09:10 PM

Heh.

Backtracking about 50 billion days ago, it seems...but has anyone ever scanned brit?

Coffee Warlord · 04-30-2013, 09:11 PM

Scanned, no obviously, but as gung ho as everyone was about him, he's sorta fallen by the wayside. Might be a decent seer target tonight.

Coffee Warlord · 04-30-2013, 09:12 PM

Or Narc, if only 'cause he keeps calling me a wolf.

JAG · 04-30-2013, 09:18 PM

I'm a bit at a loss for the last wolf assuming there's a 6th.

Brit seems reasonable as his main defense is getting voted by everyone (not a bad defense really) and buying a service for 1k. He's probably been less open about money and such than others.

Other than that, maybe CR or even Mau, just because I can see Mau playing this open and crazy as a wolf. I don't really get a bad vibe from either of them though, so I'm reaching a bit.

Coffee Warlord · 04-30-2013, 09:22 PM

Just from looking at the the list of players...Brit or CR'd be my choices, but I'm also reaching heavily here, particularly with CR.

Coffee Warlord · 04-30-2013, 09:24 PM

And we gotta figure there's 6. Be weird for the sides not to start even, unless murray is Atlantic City and it started 3-2 (game being in Atlantic City, they started with 1 extra)

JAG · 04-30-2013, 09:27 PM

Looking at D2 and D3, Zinto did try to push the vote away from brit. Mostly on D2 he was pushing for the font vote and D3 he voted InBlue vs. brit, as well as used his Jackal clear to try and alleviate suspicion on brit. I think brit is definitely the best candidate for the seer.

JAG · 04-30-2013, 09:28 PM

For the seer to scan that is, if it wasn't clear. I'm pretty sure he's the last one.

Coffee Warlord · 04-30-2013, 09:30 PM

I actually hope it is. Mainly because that'd mean I was agonizing using the hitman on...3 different wolves.

Coffee Warlord · 04-30-2013, 09:31 PM

GRAMMAR IS GOOD, CW.

Danny · 04-30-2013, 09:32 PM

And Andre the giant gets an acquittal and re-enters the ring

mauchow · 04-30-2013, 09:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danny

And Andre the giant gets an acquittal and re-enters the ring

Hulk hogan tosses your azz outta here!

The Jackal · 04-30-2013, 10:15 PM

I was so busy at work today/tonight, stupid 11 hour shifts, didn't even get a bid in, but hopefully I won't need the BG tonight, path.

The Jackal · 04-30-2013, 10:16 PM

I'll take a look at things in the morning and see who I think might be remaining wolves

The Jackal · 04-30-2013, 10:16 PM

@Path did you get any reason to believe your buying of the hitman would result in bad things for you or the village?

The Jackal · 04-30-2013, 10:19 PM

FWIW I haven't exchanged many PMs with Brit at all, think we've both been busy. I asked who he would've gone after if not DT, and he said Danny but it was post-seer scan and he admitted it wasn't much in the reasoning dept.

I don't get a vibe one way or the other from the limited PMs we've shared. I need to look at some updated voting history before I decide if there are better candidates to go after.

britrock88 · 04-30-2013, 11:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JAG

I'm a bit at a loss for the last wolf assuming there's a 6th.

Brit seems reasonable as his main defense is getting voted by everyone (not a bad defense really) and buying a service for 1k. He's probably been less open about money and such than others..

I can tell you about money and such, if you like. I haven't really had a lot happening, and I missed some bets last week on account of my busy-ness.

I didn't win any money on bets until last night, when I won $x52 on a bet I split 3 ways. I had used my entire $1000 to buy the service that linked me with Jackal. Any other questions about what I've been up to? Let me know.

path12 · 04-30-2013, 11:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Jackal

@Path did you get any reason to believe your buying of the hitman would result in bad things for you or the village?

Yep.

Quote:

Originally Posted by path12

Other than my house being cased, being tailed and a bug on my phone? Not yet. But that doesn't sound great for the future.

Narcizo · 05-01-2013, 02:34 AM

I still think that there's a decent chance that Brit scans as wolf whether he is or not. I don't buy this business with the ability only lasting one night - I think they're permanent. I mean if the bent cop is going to plant suspicion on Brit it's not going to disappear after a bit.

Scanning Jackal is a ridiculous waste at this stage. If we get down to 4-5 people then it would be worth considering.

I'd scan Coffee or Chief I think. Actually, that's a lie. I would scan Coffee

but I just wanted to sound more rational and reasonable. I betcha that murra5y shows up as Las Vegas.
a) Coffee does the classic wolf trick of mentioning DT as a strong suspect but doesn't actually ever vote him on day three.
b) Realises that he's in trouble when DT goes down and wants to make sure of the minor win so he offers up the hitman. Revealing that he has the hitman and using him on someone everyone suspects is a win for him because he gets trust and kills the opposition.
c) Has been muttering darkly about the risks of hiring someone on the black market - that way he leaves himself the ability to get their services without pesky interference from villagers.
d) Is currently pushing for Britrock to be scanned, when there's good reason to believe that Britrock will scan as mob.

I'll freely admit that this is my MO. Focus on one person and then anything that person says convinces me that they're bad. But what can you do? Well you can all just ignore me. I meant "what can I do"?

JAG · 05-01-2013, 03:56 AM

If you think murra5y is Vegas though, then I really don't see both of Coffee's teammates voting him D1 while he also voted his own.

JAG · 05-01-2013, 04:22 AM

If murra5y is LV, then there's a stronger case for CR or Mau than brit. If murra5y is Atlantic, then the other way around.

JAG · 05-01-2013, 05:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Narcizo

I still think that there's a decent chance that Brit scans as wolf whether he is or not. I don't buy this business with the ability only lasting one night - I think they're permanent. I mean if the bent cop is going to plant suspicion on Brit it's not going to disappear after a bit.

All I can say is that isn't how it worked last time this game ran. I do think the wording was a bit different and it's certainly possible Autumn changed it up this go around. I wouldn't necessarily take a brit positive scan result in a vacuum, but if it fits with the other evidence...and frankly even if we screw up a lynch, we are still pretty well-placed. There's a potential for additional blocks / scans / villager night kill in the coming days.

With presumably only a single wolf left, after the new day starts, we should all coordinate our bids and have the most trusted people get the most important services. By doing that, we basically force the last wolf to act as we want them to and force the less trusted players to buy useless (to the wolf) services like money transferring. I'll draw up a suggested list if I'm still around (assuming murra5y may brutal me if that's a possibility), but for example:

DV - buys seer for $20
Jackal - buys BG for $15

Just to be safe, we can say no buying of black market services so whatever benefit that gives the wolves doesn't happen. If there are enough services left, it should very much narrow down who purchased a black market service if it happens.

Any deviation from what we draw up will obviously spot us our wolf. If they go along with it, we just keep scanning players until we eventually hit.

04-30-2013, 05:58 PM	#952
Darth Vilus College Benchwarmer Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: SoCal	vote zinto I will be around more tomorrow. Had a busy start to the week __________________ "Two there should be; no more, no less. One to embody power, the other to crave it." ―Darth Bane "Tell me what you regard as your greatest strength, so I will know how best to undermine you; tell me of your greatest fear, so I will know which I must force you to face; tell me what you cherish most, so I will know what to take from you; and tell me what you crave, so that I might deny you…" ―Darth Plagueis the Wise

04-30-2013, 06:55 PM	#954
EagleFan Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Mays Landing, NJ USA	You guys rock... that is all... continue playing... __________________ The EagleFan YouTube Channel - Reactions Soarin' & Scratchin' YouTube Channel - We react to music, videos, TV, we talk, we are planning some field trips Soarin' & Soothin' - Meditation, Relaxation, and Sleep Aid; mental health is important

04-30-2013, 08:09 PM	#960
path12 Coordinator Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Seattle, WA	So if you count Danny as Atlantic City pre-conversion that is two Atlantic City and two Vegas. Are we thinking 3 each side? __________________ We have always been at war with Eastasia.

04-30-2013, 08:14 PM	#962
path12 Coordinator Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Seattle, WA	I guess the next question regards the fact that Zinto used the seer to clear Jackal, who had given us his Vegas compatriot fontesian. So either Jackal is Vegas and went for trust by framing font and then get cleared by Zinto -- or Zinto tried to get some cred by clearing Jackal. If someone trusted gets the seer it seems like it would not be a bad idea to rescan Jackal. __________________ We have always been at war with Eastasia.

04-30-2013, 08:15 PM	#963
path12 Coordinator Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Seattle, WA	Also too, unless someone else had $3,412 on them it looks like I have the hitman. __________________ We have always been at war with Eastasia.

04-30-2013, 05:18 PM	#951
murrayyyyy College Benchwarmer Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Las Vegas	Damn, get home and there is no reason to vote again... oh well...

04-30-2013, 06:54 PM	#953
Autumn Head Coach Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Bath, ME	Day Six Voting 3 Murrayyyyy -------- Coffee Warlord (Nightfall), path12 (932), Zinto (949) 7 Zinto --------------- Mauchow (912), narcizo (915), JAG (922), The Jackal (924), britrock88 (927), chief rum (935), darth vilus (952)

04-30-2013, 07:18 PM	#955
murrayyyyy College Benchwarmer Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Las Vegas	vote murra5y Haven't voted in forever and I win my bet tonight so what does it matter.

04-30-2013, 07:32 PM	#956
mauchow Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Murfreesboro, TN	What's the reasoning for that vote?

04-30-2013, 07:46 PM	#957
murrayyyyy College Benchwarmer Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Las Vegas	Besides boredom, nothing really. Just want to see if anyone would move on me to see where everyone bet. I can pull my vote off myself to save me just as easily.

04-30-2013, 08:02 PM	#958
Autumn Head Coach Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Bath, ME	Deadline

04-30-2013, 08:02 PM	#959
Autumn Head Coach Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Bath, ME	Both Murray and Zinto are hauled in for intense questioning today. In the end it's decided that the city resources will be spent in investigating Zinto. He is arrested while a team of detectives comb his home. They find evidence of money laundering, extortion and an illicit trade in knockoff Beanie Babies. "I'll kill you all, you dirty rats," he yells as they lock him away. Zinto was a member of the Las Vegas Mafia.

04-30-2013, 08:11 PM	#961
Autumn Head Coach Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Bath, ME	DAY SIX WINNING BIDS Mick "Stones" McGee - $1,066 Donna Black Investigations - $900 Cookie's Ladies - $0 Sandy Back Messenger Service - $0 Casino2Casino Wire Transfer - $0 Eternity Investments - $0 Freddie von Maur, Casino Manager - $0 BLACK MARKET SERVICES - HIRE AT YOUR OWN RISK The Money Hole - $0 "Smiling Jane" Smith, thief - $0 Jamie Monteray, hitman - $3,412

04-30-2013, 08:18 PM	#964
JAG Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: St. Paul, MN	Good, I have the BG so murra5y can't guard himself.

04-30-2013, 08:19 PM	#965
mauchow Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Murfreesboro, TN	I won nothing tonight, thinking I might be able to land the Seer back to back nights. Oh, well. Worth a shot and at least someone had to still pay a decent sum for it. And wow, Path. THat's a haul! Most I've won in a night was afew hundo.

04-30-2013, 08:19 PM	#966
JAG Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: St. Paul, MN	And no one hired Cookie's ladies so you can't be slutted. Anything to report about the black market purchase?

04-30-2013, 08:24 PM	#968
Autumn Head Coach Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Bath, ME	Everything should be processed. Please let me know if not. All bids for tomorrow's lynch are due by 9 am EST

04-30-2013, 08:56 PM	#973
Coffee Warlord Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Colorado Springs	So...no wolf bought anything? Wowser.

04-30-2013, 08:58 PM	#974
Coffee Warlord Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Colorado Springs	Ah, there was only one hitman tonight.

04-30-2013, 09:02 PM	#975
Coffee Warlord Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Colorado Springs	So...anyone wanna recap who we've scanned that actually came up as good?

04-30-2013, 09:04 PM	#976
Coffee Warlord Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Colorado Springs	Don't believe it would be useful for us to rescan until we've looked at all possible contestants. The person who called them okay would be much more likely to be bad than the scan target.

04-30-2013, 09:07 PM	#977
JAG Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: St. Paul, MN	DV and myself. Wolves bought one ("cleared" Jackal) and the other scans have been wolves.

04-30-2013, 09:09 PM	#978
path12 Coordinator Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Seattle, WA	Orders and bet for tomorrow in. I'll check in again before I go to bed to make sure no revisions are needed. __________________ We have always been at war with Eastasia.

04-30-2013, 09:10 PM	#979
Coffee Warlord Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Colorado Springs	Heh. Backtracking about 50 billion days ago, it seems...but has anyone ever scanned brit?

04-30-2013, 09:11 PM	#980
Coffee Warlord Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Colorado Springs	Scanned, no obviously, but as gung ho as everyone was about him, he's sorta fallen by the wayside. Might be a decent seer target tonight.

04-30-2013, 09:12 PM	#981
Coffee Warlord Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Colorado Springs	Or Narc, if only 'cause he keeps calling me a wolf.

04-30-2013, 09:18 PM	#982
JAG Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: St. Paul, MN	I'm a bit at a loss for the last wolf assuming there's a 6th. Brit seems reasonable as his main defense is getting voted by everyone (not a bad defense really) and buying a service for 1k. He's probably been less open about money and such than others. Other than that, maybe CR or even Mau, just because I can see Mau playing this open and crazy as a wolf. I don't really get a bad vibe from either of them though, so I'm reaching a bit.

04-30-2013, 09:22 PM	#983
Coffee Warlord Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Colorado Springs	Just from looking at the the list of players...Brit or CR'd be my choices, but I'm also reaching heavily here, particularly with CR.

04-30-2013, 09:24 PM	#984
Coffee Warlord Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Colorado Springs	And we gotta figure there's 6. Be weird for the sides not to start even, unless murray is Atlantic City and it started 3-2 (game being in Atlantic City, they started with 1 extra)

04-30-2013, 09:27 PM	#985
JAG Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: St. Paul, MN	Looking at D2 and D3, Zinto did try to push the vote away from brit. Mostly on D2 he was pushing for the font vote and D3 he voted InBlue vs. brit, as well as used his Jackal clear to try and alleviate suspicion on brit. I think brit is definitely the best candidate for the seer.

04-30-2013, 09:28 PM	#986
JAG Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: St. Paul, MN	For the seer to scan that is, if it wasn't clear. I'm pretty sure he's the last one.

04-30-2013, 09:30 PM	#987
Coffee Warlord Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Colorado Springs	I actually hope it is. Mainly because that'd mean I was agonizing using the hitman on...3 different wolves. Last edited by Coffee Warlord : 04-30-2013 at 09:32 PM. Reason: Fixed a travesty of english grammar.

04-30-2013, 09:31 PM	#988
Coffee Warlord Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Colorado Springs	GRAMMAR IS GOOD, CW.

04-30-2013, 09:32 PM	#989
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	And Andre the giant gets an acquittal and re-enters the ring

04-30-2013, 10:15 PM	#991
The Jackal Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: New Hampshire	I was so busy at work today/tonight, stupid 11 hour shifts, didn't even get a bid in, but hopefully I won't need the BG tonight, path.