WW XCII Athens -- Destroyed by Wolves! - Page 11

TheNorm · 04-22-2009, 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by hoopsguy

TheNorm - you posted earlier in the thread after my reveal, but didn't challenge my claim then. Why not? Why wait until there are only fifteen minutes before the deadline?

I wanted to see exactly how many people fell behind you or if anyone challenged you...and since I also think there's a second one, it makes me a huge target come nightfall.

Lathum · 04-22-2009, 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by TheNorm

Abe. Gut feeling just to guard him.

thats only one person, there have been 2 nights

hoopsguy · 04-22-2009, 01:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lathum

hoops, you are claiming villager, but claiming Norm is lying?

Then who is the Hoplite?

Well, I claim that I bluffed at Hoplite to get the real one to challenge me and then help guide my vote between remaining two candidates.

I do not know if TheNorm is lying, but I'm sure that I would have trusted him a lot more if he had came after me when he posted a couple of hours ago. I'm pretty stumped why the actual BG would do that.

Abe Sargent · 04-22-2009, 01:51 PM

Wait - you voted for me, then guarded me?

Lathum · 04-22-2009, 01:51 PM

I am really confused.

Hoops, are you the hoplite or not?

Abe Sargent · 04-22-2009, 01:51 PM

Well, I'm staying on MartinD cause he's like the marathon guy now.

TheNorm · 04-22-2009, 01:51 PM

Lathum, I guarded you the second night.

Abe Sargent · 04-22-2009, 01:52 PM

We can figure out the hoops-Norm stuff later

I'm willing to buy hoops a bit but that doe snot mean I disbeleive TeNorm

Lathum · 04-22-2009, 01:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Abe Sargent

Well, I'm staying on MartinD cause he's like the marathon guy now.

I would agree with this

Abe Sargent · 04-22-2009, 01:53 PM

Here's my take. If hoops were a wolf who first claimed BG, he would not have said "I'm vannilla actually" when pushed by a BG reveal 15 minutes before deadline when he has no votes on him, you know what I'm saying?

hoopsguy · 04-22-2009, 01:53 PM

Lathum - I'm not the Hoplite, just a vanilla villager.

I was bluffing at it, hoping that it would be challenged by the real Hoplite. Then I would know where to vote today and I was confident enough that I would be able to explain my strategy in thread.

We would have gotten the vote right, it would have been good, we all live happily ever after. But right now I think that TheNorm is probably a wolf who is claiming to be the Hoplite because he is worried that he is going down either by vote or Duke.

Abe Sargent · 04-22-2009, 01:53 PM

Tha's gotta be one of the most unusual things I've seen somebody ssay in teh last 15 minutes.

Lathum · 04-22-2009, 01:53 PM

Norms answers just aren't jiving with me right now.

1. Why would he say who he guarded last night?
2. Why wouldn't he guard himself one of those nights?

Lathum · 04-22-2009, 01:54 PM

sigh

If hoops is playing us well done.

Passacaglia · 04-22-2009, 01:55 PM

Vote count:

Quote:

TheNorm -- 3 Lathum (429) MartinD (476) hoopsguy (480)
MartinD -- 2 PurdueBrad (436) Abe Sargent (487)
hoopsguy -- 1 TheNorm (492)

Abe Sargent · 04-22-2009, 01:55 PM

And, to be fair, it could be the case that the guard here is a wolf. I agree with the operation assumption that its not, but still.

Are we going to get a thuird reveal as BG today?

Lathum · 04-22-2009, 01:57 PM

unvote TheNorm
vote PB

Lathum · 04-22-2009, 01:58 PM

wanna keep it a tie

Lathum · 04-22-2009, 01:58 PM

dola we have to get at least one wolf here

TheNorm · 04-22-2009, 01:58 PM

If that's the way you want it, then so be it. I'm telling you you're going after the wrong guy though.

Abe Sargent · 04-22-2009, 01:58 PM

I don; buyt TheNorm, why guard the vote you just voted for on Day one?

Abe Sargent · 04-22-2009, 01:58 PM

guard the guy I mean.

hoopsguy · 04-22-2009, 01:59 PM

OK, now I'm really confused - Lathum, PB is the last choice that makes any sense right now.

I still think it is one of our two candidates - TheNorm as caught wolf, or MartinD as UTR wolf and last man standing with a (wolf) role to claim.

Lathum · 04-22-2009, 02:00 PM

I just voted PB to keep it a tie

Abe Sargent · 04-22-2009, 02:00 PM

I followed ya

Lathum · 04-22-2009, 02:00 PM

PB is in zero danger of being lynched

hoopsguy · 04-22-2009, 02:00 PM

UNVOTE THENORM
VOTE MARTIND

Abe Sargent · 04-22-2009, 02:01 PM

Well, that was interesting.

Abe Sargent · 04-22-2009, 02:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hoopsguy

UNVOTE THENORM
VOTE MARTIND

hoopsguy · 04-22-2009, 02:02 PM

I hope that worked.

Abe Sargent · 04-22-2009, 02:02 PM

I think this is where hoops admits that TheNorm and him are wolves and played us.

Lathum · 04-22-2009, 02:02 PM

well played Hoops

Lathum · 04-22-2009, 02:03 PM

If Hoops and TheNorm are wolves we are golden

Passacaglia · 04-22-2009, 02:03 PM

Final vote count?

Quote:

TheNorm -- 1 MartinD (476)
MartinD -- 3 PurdueBrad (436) Abe Sargent (487) hoopsguy (527)
hoopsguy -- 1 TheNorm (492)
PurdueBrad -- 1 Lathum (517)

Abe Sargent · 04-22-2009, 02:04 PM

sigh. yes

hoopsguy · 04-22-2009, 02:04 PM

Well, I hope that I'm getting us a wolf today - took a chance and believed TheNorm at the deadline. This would have been a ton easier if he had countered earlier, where we could have sorted it out.

Lathum - is that going to hold up or did you put a duking on it?

Abe Sargent · 04-22-2009, 02:04 PM

If votes right at 3:00 count...

Lathum · 04-22-2009, 02:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hoopsguy

Well, I hope that I'm getting us a wolf today - took a chance and believed TheNorm at the deadline. This would have been a ton easier if he had countered earlier, where we could have sorted it out.

Lathum - is that going to hold up or did you put a duking on it?

dude, what are you doing....

Abe Sargent · 04-22-2009, 02:05 PM

Yeah, I don;t even know what he's trying to pull now.

Lathum · 04-22-2009, 02:06 PM

Hoops-

If you claim villager, and believe Norm, then are you saying Abe is a wolf or schmidty was?

Abe Sargent · 04-22-2009, 02:08 PM

Or maybe even CR?

hoopsguy · 04-22-2009, 02:08 PM

I think it is most likely that Abe is our last wolf if we are still playing fifteen minutes from now.

Abe Sargent · 04-22-2009, 02:08 PM

Nice try hoops. You played us very well with your one wolf vs the other gig just now. Now you can just give it a rest for a bit until we get results.

hoopsguy · 04-22-2009, 02:09 PM

If the last wolf is Lathum then we are screwed and he laughed his head off today because none of this mattered.

If the last wolf is PB then the wolves would have had to send off the Marathoner to Hades, rather than letting him run to Sparta and waste a day there. That does not seem +EV.

I know I'm not the last wolf.

So that leaves our Phoenix, Abe.

Lathum · 04-22-2009, 02:10 PM

Hoops, well played to the end

keeping it up in case there is a BG block

Abe Sargent · 04-22-2009, 02:11 PM

I know, so good.

Abe Sargent · 04-22-2009, 02:11 PM

Have to admire his consistency, he got caught as a wolf in one of my games by the BG and then successfully argued his way out of it and eluded the lynch.

hoopsguy · 04-22-2009, 02:12 PM

Wait a minute - my logic is backwards on PB. If PB is the last Marathoner then I have no idea what is going on with our Marathoner. Best case scenario would be that MartinD is our Marathoner and we then move to lynch PurdueBrad.

Abe, I retract the idea that you have to be the last wolf. I'll 100% vote for PB if MartinD is the Good Marathoner and we are still alive to play tomorrow.

hoopsguy · 04-22-2009, 02:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Abe Sargent

Have to admire his consistency, he got caught as a wolf in one of my games by the BG and then successfully argued his way out of it and eluded the lynch.

That game did not end up very well for me, as I got caught again the very next day. Talk about highs and lows. I just threw my hands up in the air the second day, and asked what else could possibly go wrong.

hoopsguy · 04-22-2009, 02:14 PM

Can you believe we are still over 100 posts behind Sparta?

04-22-2009, 01:51 PM	#504
Abe Sargent Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Catonsville, MD	Wait - you voted for me, then guarded me? __________________ Check out my two current weekly Magic columns! https://www.coolstuffinc.com/a/?action=search&page=1&author[]=Abe%20Sargent

04-22-2009, 01:51 PM	#506
Abe Sargent Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Catonsville, MD	Well, I'm staying on MartinD cause he's like the marathon guy now. __________________ Check out my two current weekly Magic columns! https://www.coolstuffinc.com/a/?action=search&page=1&author[]=Abe%20Sargent

04-22-2009, 01:52 PM	#508
Abe Sargent Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Catonsville, MD	We can figure out the hoops-Norm stuff later I'm willing to buy hoops a bit but that doe snot mean I disbeleive TeNorm __________________ Check out my two current weekly Magic columns! https://www.coolstuffinc.com/a/?action=search&page=1&author[]=Abe%20Sargent

04-22-2009, 01:53 PM	#510
Abe Sargent Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Catonsville, MD	Here's my take. If hoops were a wolf who first claimed BG, he would not have said "I'm vannilla actually" when pushed by a BG reveal 15 minutes before deadline when he has no votes on him, you know what I'm saying? __________________ Check out my two current weekly Magic columns! https://www.coolstuffinc.com/a/?action=search&page=1&author[]=Abe%20Sargent

04-22-2009, 01:53 PM	#512
Abe Sargent Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Catonsville, MD	Tha's gotta be one of the most unusual things I've seen somebody ssay in teh last 15 minutes. __________________ Check out my two current weekly Magic columns! https://www.coolstuffinc.com/a/?action=search&page=1&author[]=Abe%20Sargent

04-22-2009, 01:51 PM	#505
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	I am really confused. Hoops, are you the hoplite or not?

04-22-2009, 01:51 PM	#507
TheNorm Mascot Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Chicago, IL	Lathum, I guarded you the second night.

04-22-2009, 01:53 PM	#511
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	Lathum - I'm not the Hoplite, just a vanilla villager. I was bluffing at it, hoping that it would be challenged by the real Hoplite. Then I would know where to vote today and I was confident enough that I would be able to explain my strategy in thread. We would have gotten the vote right, it would have been good, we all live happily ever after. But right now I think that TheNorm is probably a wolf who is claiming to be the Hoplite because he is worried that he is going down either by vote or Duke.

04-22-2009, 01:53 PM	#513
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	Norms answers just aren't jiving with me right now. 1. Why would he say who he guarded last night? 2. Why wouldn't he guard himself one of those nights?

04-22-2009, 01:54 PM	#514
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	sigh If hoops is playing us well done.

04-22-2009, 01:55 PM	#516
Abe Sargent Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Catonsville, MD	And, to be fair, it could be the case that the guard here is a wolf. I agree with the operation assumption that its not, but still. Are we going to get a thuird reveal as BG today? __________________ Check out my two current weekly Magic columns! https://www.coolstuffinc.com/a/?action=search&page=1&author[]=Abe%20Sargent

04-22-2009, 01:57 PM	#517
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	unvote TheNorm vote PB

04-22-2009, 01:58 PM	#518
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	wanna keep it a tie

04-22-2009, 01:58 PM	#519
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	dola we have to get at least one wolf here

04-22-2009, 01:58 PM	#520
TheNorm Mascot Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Chicago, IL	If that's the way you want it, then so be it. I'm telling you you're going after the wrong guy though.

04-22-2009, 01:58 PM	#521
Abe Sargent Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Catonsville, MD	I don; buyt TheNorm, why guard the vote you just voted for on Day one? __________________ Check out my two current weekly Magic columns! https://www.coolstuffinc.com/a/?action=search&page=1&author[]=Abe%20Sargent

04-22-2009, 01:58 PM	#522
Abe Sargent Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Catonsville, MD	guard the guy I mean. __________________ Check out my two current weekly Magic columns! https://www.coolstuffinc.com/a/?action=search&page=1&author[]=Abe%20Sargent

04-22-2009, 01:59 PM	#523
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	OK, now I'm really confused - Lathum, PB is the last choice that makes any sense right now. I still think it is one of our two candidates - TheNorm as caught wolf, or MartinD as UTR wolf and last man standing with a (wolf) role to claim.

04-22-2009, 02:00 PM	#524
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	I just voted PB to keep it a tie

04-22-2009, 02:00 PM	#525
Abe Sargent Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Catonsville, MD	I followed ya __________________ Check out my two current weekly Magic columns! https://www.coolstuffinc.com/a/?action=search&page=1&author[]=Abe%20Sargent

04-22-2009, 02:00 PM	#526
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	PB is in zero danger of being lynched

04-22-2009, 02:00 PM	#527
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	UNVOTE THENORM VOTE MARTIND

04-22-2009, 02:01 PM	#528
Abe Sargent Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Catonsville, MD	Well, that was interesting. __________________ Check out my two current weekly Magic columns! https://www.coolstuffinc.com/a/?action=search&page=1&author[]=Abe%20Sargent

04-22-2009, 02:02 PM	#530
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	I hope that worked.

04-22-2009, 02:02 PM	#531
Abe Sargent Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Catonsville, MD	I think this is where hoops admits that TheNorm and him are wolves and played us. __________________ Check out my two current weekly Magic columns! https://www.coolstuffinc.com/a/?action=search&page=1&author[]=Abe%20Sargent

04-22-2009, 02:02 PM	#532
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	well played Hoops

04-22-2009, 02:03 PM	#533
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	If Hoops and TheNorm are wolves we are golden

04-22-2009, 02:04 PM	#535
Abe Sargent Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Catonsville, MD	sigh. yes __________________ Check out my two current weekly Magic columns! https://www.coolstuffinc.com/a/?action=search&page=1&author[]=Abe%20Sargent

04-22-2009, 02:04 PM	#536
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	Well, I hope that I'm getting us a wolf today - took a chance and believed TheNorm at the deadline. This would have been a ton easier if he had countered earlier, where we could have sorted it out. Lathum - is that going to hold up or did you put a duking on it?

04-22-2009, 02:04 PM	#537
Abe Sargent Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Catonsville, MD	If votes right at 3:00 count... __________________ Check out my two current weekly Magic columns! https://www.coolstuffinc.com/a/?action=search&page=1&author[]=Abe%20Sargent

04-22-2009, 02:05 PM	#539
Abe Sargent Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Catonsville, MD	Yeah, I don;t even know what he's trying to pull now. __________________ Check out my two current weekly Magic columns! https://www.coolstuffinc.com/a/?action=search&page=1&author[]=Abe%20Sargent

04-22-2009, 02:06 PM	#540
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	Hoops- If you claim villager, and believe Norm, then are you saying Abe is a wolf or schmidty was?

04-22-2009, 02:08 PM	#541
Abe Sargent Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Catonsville, MD	Or maybe even CR? __________________ Check out my two current weekly Magic columns! https://www.coolstuffinc.com/a/?action=search&page=1&author[]=Abe%20Sargent

04-22-2009, 02:08 PM	#542
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	I think it is most likely that Abe is our last wolf if we are still playing fifteen minutes from now.

04-22-2009, 02:08 PM	#543
Abe Sargent Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Catonsville, MD	Nice try hoops. You played us very well with your one wolf vs the other gig just now. Now you can just give it a rest for a bit until we get results. __________________ Check out my two current weekly Magic columns! https://www.coolstuffinc.com/a/?action=search&page=1&author[]=Abe%20Sargent