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I guess top heavy is a better description. I'm used to seeing more tournament probable teams.
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02-02-2011, 10:52 PM | #752 |
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Whatever. 43-16 free throws, almost 3 to 1. Sorry that doesn't usually happen, even to pressing teams.
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02-02-2011, 10:54 PM | #753 |
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Harvard at Princeton on ESPNU on Friday. Harvard has never finished in the top two of the Ivy League. This could be the year.
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02-03-2011, 07:41 AM | #754 |
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The refs are all just jealous of Mike Anderson's enormous coaching talent.
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If you would like more proof of this, just watch a University of Dayton basketball game sometime this year. A real coach would have this team in the top 25, easily.
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We've had teams in the past couple of years that have adjusted much better to the officiating on the road than this squad. It was pretty bad last night, but that's the way the road is. The same style of play that causes havoc and nearly impossible conditions for the road team in Mizzou Arena due to home-leaning officiating is the same style that can be rendered useless given a heavy home officiating bias when we're on the road. I'm also reminded of a Norm Stewart quote after these last couple of games: Quote:
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02-03-2011, 08:02 AM | #757 |
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02-03-2011, 08:16 AM | #758 |
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I'm going to assume you didn't watch the game. OSU players were leaving their feet and getting bailed out by the officials. MU players were leaving their feet and got nothing. Leaving your feet is always a bad thing, but it's worse when the other team is getting free throws for bad plays while your team does the same (because they assume they'll get the same treatment) and doesn't get the same calls. That situation created the huge discrepancy on the FT line. |
02-03-2011, 08:28 AM | #759 |
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On the year Mizzou has a FTA/FGA of 33.3 which is 276th in the nation. While they are allowing a FTA/FGA of 39.6 which is 209th in the nation.
On the other hand Oklahoma State has a FTA/FGA of 42.9 which is 61st in the nation while fouling at a rate of 47.7 which is 307th in the nation. According the their stats on the year it appears Missouri is not a team that takes the ball to the hoops and draws many fouls. Being that Oklahoma State is one of the worst in the nation at allowing Free Throws Missouri should have focused more on the inside than jacking up 18 3s. I didnt watch the game so I have no idea how good or bad the refs were but after looking the season stats its understandable on why Missouri is getting outshot at the FT line. A lot of times in games in which one team leads by a lot in the 2nd half the FT attempts can be misleading. I am sure Mizzou was fouling at the end on purpose and had to play over aggressive to try and get back in the game. Of course this also plays along with the theory that the refs are out to get Mizzou as their yearly FT attempts/FG attempts would show. Last edited by jbergey22 : 02-03-2011 at 08:36 AM. |
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02-03-2011, 10:14 AM | #761 |
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Big win for Syracuse at UConn to snap a four game losing streak. The big east schedule is brutal but the upside is you get a ton of chances for quality wins. There is a margin for error there.
But the buzz before the game was about an "internet rumor" that three Syracuse players were involved in point-shaving and that ESPN was "working on the story". The rumor blew up and the originator posted an apology (after changing his username). Originator of Syracuse point-shaving rumor offers apology | syracuse.com Jardine, Waiters play under the dark cloud of unfounded Internet rumor | syracuse.com At some point there has to be some kind of backlash about the state of college sports "insiders" on the internet doesn't there? Maybe someday, everything won't immediately be considered credible just because it's on the internet somewhere. Last edited by molson : 02-03-2011 at 10:16 AM. |
02-03-2011, 10:29 AM | #762 |
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Well, we haven't played the great powers of Presbyterian, either. I guess you got me on that. I'll tell Tennessee to stop scheduling Villanova, Pitt, and UConn. You guys start scheduling...SEMO or Arkansas State or SLU.
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02-03-2011, 10:35 AM | #763 |
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FTR, I roommate never piped up even in the end when Mizzou was surging. I should text him to see how he's doing.
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02-03-2011, 11:33 AM | #764 | |
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Let's see Missouri is ranked 29th in strength of schedule.. Tennessee is 24th.. pretty even schedule thus far if you ask me. |
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02-03-2011, 11:37 AM | #765 | |
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Where are you getting this? Ken Pomeroy has Mizzou at 83rd, Tennessee at 16. Jeff Sagarin has Mizzou 80 and Tennessee 14. If you wanted to go by something as useless as the RPI Mizzou is 93rd and Tennessee is 1st. Last edited by jbergey22 : 02-03-2011 at 11:41 AM. |
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02-03-2011, 11:47 AM | #766 |
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NCAA Basketball Power Ratings - NCAA BB Team Strength of Schedule Power Rating
Am I looking at the wrong site? I do see Tennesse is ranked #16 in RPI and Missouri is #28. |
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What he said.
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02-03-2011, 11:49 AM | #768 | |
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Where are you getting this? I see Tennessee #18 and Missouri #33 through 2/2 |
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02-03-2011, 11:56 AM | #769 |
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CBS Sports RPI has Tennessee's SOS #1, Mizzou 69.
NCAA College Basketball Rankings - CBSSports.com I only know this because I have to rub it in my roommate's face every time he talks about Mizzou. I could really care less. Living in a house with with black and gold everywhere, a man in orange has to stand up for himself.
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02-03-2011, 11:58 AM | #770 |
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..and since you always have to give your thoughts on anything Missouri, the strength of schedule is Mizzou 74.67 and Tennessee 78.33
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RealTimeRPI.com Men's College Basketball Rating Percentage Index (RPI) Ratings - A leading sports ratings and resources community on the Internet
Tennessee 1, Mizzou 71.
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02-03-2011, 12:00 PM | #772 |
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Real Time RPI: Missouri (#71), Tennessee (#1) RealTimeRPI.com Men's College Basketball Rating Percentage Index (RPI) Ratings - A leading sports ratings and resources community on the Internet Sagarin: Missouri (80), Tennessee (#14) USATODAY.com |
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Im not sure that you are looking at the wrong site. I suppose each site has their different opinion. Personally, I tend to put more weight into Sagarin and Pomeroy over other sites and I especially like Pomeroy. His ratings tend to pick up on underrated and overrated teams quicker than most. I find the RPI pretty much worthless. Last edited by jbergey22 : 02-03-2011 at 12:45 PM. |
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02-03-2011, 02:22 PM | #778 |
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We ain't Harris-Stowe.
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Id probably agree. You Mizzou fans are such diehards its kind of fun shooting the shit with you. I wish I still cared as much about the Gophers as the Mizzou fans do about their team. Its just hard to get excited about them when they cant ever get in the top 4 in the Big 10 and football is even more brutal to cheer for them. |
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02-03-2011, 07:29 PM | #782 |
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Ohio State has been playing like they need a loss lately. They havent been near as impressive over the past 2-3 weeks other than the Purdue route.
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02-03-2011, 09:14 PM | #783 |
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Coastal Carolina has basically clinched the Big South conference after beating Liberty tonight. They now hold a 2 game lead over Liberty and nobody else is close after that. They also hold the second longest winning streak in the country currently (watch out Ohio State. we are coming for you!)
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02-03-2011, 09:58 PM | #784 |
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This is college basketball. We have a season ending tournament to determine the champion. Who gives a fuck about rankings?
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Probably a lot of people. We need something to talk about before the tournament. Personally, I enjoy the rankings part of it as seedings/bubble watches are important this part of the year. |
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02-04-2011, 10:04 AM | #787 |
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North Carolina Tar Heels' Larry Drew II leaves team, source says - ESPN
In a jarring February development, North Carolina point guard Larry Drew II has left the Tar Heels team and will transfer, according to a source close to the situation. The source did not cite a reason for Drew's decision to transfer but did say the junior left campus Thursday, roughly 48 hours after recording nine assists in 19 minutes in North Carolina's 106-74 victory over Boston College. The source also said Carolina's coaches were aware of Drew's decision. Drew has essentially shared the point guard position this season with freshman Kendall Marshall; he lost the starting role to Marshall in mid-January. As a result, Drew's playing time, scoring and assists have dropped from last season -- minutes down from 28.8 to 22.8 per game, scoring from 8.5 points to 4.4 and assists from 5.9 to 3.9. However, he's had some of his better floor games during the Tar Heels' last three games, all victories, racking up 19 assists and only two turnovers while playing fewer minutes than Marshall. Drew, the son of Atlanta Hawks coach Larry Drew, was a lightning rod for fan criticism last year, when Carolina failed to earn an NCAA tournament berth. If he transfers to another Division I school Drew will have to sit out a year and have one season of eligibility remaining.
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Well I can't say I'm sad about that after badmouthing him in nearly every single post I've made in the basketball threads for the past two years. I think I did say something nice about him last week though, something about how he seems to be playing much better in his new more limited role. Roy stuck with him way longer than I thought he should have as the starter. If he's leaving because he got benched or didn't like how he was being used, well, fuck him, he never earned any playing time, he was just PG by default for awhile after Lawson left.
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I've watched every game this year and they seem to be getting a little bored, especially when teams try to milk the clock. Northwestern, Michigan, and Penn State slowed the game way down and they weren't able to get after it. Also Lighty is shooting like his normal self and teams are making Diebler put it on the floor. I think they may sneak by Minnesota this weekend then lose to Wisconsin next weekend and Purdue the following week. The losses will be good for them though. |
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This. It would be fantastic to win a conference championship, but Mizzou fans don't have to look far back to find times where we turned on the NCAA Tournament on Thursday/Friday and there was no Mizzou logo being shown. Just get into the tourney and then take your shot. It's a beautiful thing and I'm glad we're at the point where we're back in the tourney regulars again. The rest is just fun banter. |
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02-05-2011, 10:54 AM | #792 | |
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Totally agree. Mizzou "fans" like to bitch that Pinkel can't win the big games and "only" wins 9-10 games a season. They are upset that Anderson can't win the big 12. I can remember storming the field in the early 90's when we beat Iowa State on a last second field goal. I can remember not being selected for the NIT and Quin's teams getting blown out at the Hearnes Center. I will take Pinkel/Anderson 7 days a week. |
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02-05-2011, 03:17 PM | #793 | |
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02-05-2011, 05:43 PM | #794 |
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It did help when you faced Lavin and his ability to knock off #1 teams
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02-05-2011, 05:50 PM | #795 |
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What's going on out in Washington? The Huskies dropping three straight to Oregon, Oregon State, and Washington State.
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02-05-2011, 07:35 PM | #796 |
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Pelphrey has had more than enough chances. I really hope this is the last season of this experiment.
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02-05-2011, 11:28 PM | #797 |
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Just got home from the UT-Texas Tech game. The final margin was a comfortable 76-60, but Tech did get within 6 with about 11 minutes to go. But Texas reestablished themselves and dominated the rest of the way. Yet another opponent held to under 40% from the field. In the 8 conference games Texas has played so far, only one team shot more than 40%, and that was Texas A&M who shot 41.5% in the game in Austin.
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I haven't been watching specifically, but I would guess it's a combo of the cold streak top scorer Isaiah Thomas is on, and the fact injuries have forced him into a PG mode.
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02-06-2011, 08:55 AM | #799 |
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We get our payback on Colorado!
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Larry Drew Who? Kendall Marshall has the most assists by a Freshman in UNC history and the most assists in a conference game ever by a UNC player today. 9 points/16 assists and only 3 turnovers. Brilliant performance by Marshall in another blowout win 89-69 over Florida State.
I still don't have high expectations going into Cameron on Wednesday, but UNC has now won 10 out of 11, and has put themselves into a position to be playing for first in the conference. |
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