Werewolf XLV - ROME! (Game over, post 3425)

[Tyrith]

Because everyone apparently kept sending PMs to acquire the services of Day 1 guys I won the services of Bonus Oceanus for Day 3.

[Poli]

Originally Posted by hoopsguy

I'm wondering if we get a replacement "2nd best lawyer" or if Ardent is the only one left practicing the profession at a standout level?

Even if, really, would you trust any other lawyer than me?

[st.cronin]

The wealthiest men in Rome are:

Bulletus Spongeus
Dodgus Erchickus
Imus Thecrewus

The following Senators are known to be extremely wealthy:

Coffeus Yakus Warlordus
Ironsus Headus
Lonestarus Girlus
Marcus Vaughnus
Schmidtyus Schmidtyus

The following Senators are known to be moderately wealthy:

Abeus Anxietus
Antus Meisterus
Autumnus Leavus
Barkeepus Valerius Fortynineus
Kayus Whitus
Narcizus Lispus
Pathus Twelveus
Peregrinus Barbarus

The following (remaining) Senators are of ordinary wealth for the Senatorial class:
Alanus Teeus
Ardentus Enthusiastus
Chiefus Rumus
Daddyus Torgous
Grammus Atticus
Hoopus Guyus
Neonus Chaosus
Saldanus Lathumus
Tyrus Ithus
Westvus Fanus - replaced by Mustangus Sallus

Persons selling their services in the Forum

Gallus Clarus, ex-legionnaire
Titus Ludius, ex-legionnaire
Durus Pimpus, dealer in sexual slaves
Animus Sentus, person rumored to be affiliated with the Priesthood
Furius Lucius, former warlord of Gaul, enslaved and now freed
Lexus Postus, owner of many horses
Blakus Fortunatus, owner of many horses

and of course,

Ardentus Enthusiastus, now the best lawyer in Rome, and
Schmidtyus Schmidtyus, now the 2nd best lawyer in Rome.

[st.cronin]

The following lawsuits will be heard today:

Chief rum sues Lonestargirl
Narcizo sues Peregrine
Neon_Chaos sues Anxiety
Neon_Chaos sues Antmeister
Neon_Chaos sues Autumn
Neon_Chaos sues Barkeep
Neon_Chaos sues Path12
Neon_Chaos sues Peregrine
Alan T sues Chief Rum
Alan T sues Barkeep
Kwhit sues Chief Rum
Kwhit sues DaddyTorgo
Kwhit sues Hoopsguy
Kwhit sues Narcizo
Kwhit sues Neon_Chaos
Kwhit sues Tyrith
Imthecrew sues Bulletsponge
Imthecrew sues Alan T
Antmeister sues Neon Chaos

[Alan T]

I promised I would tell what my service I bought did. The horse trader allows you to send 1 pm via Cronin to another person of your choice and receive a reply back via the same mechanism.

[Poli]

That's right. Time to change my business rocks.

[Poli]

Heh, and you didn't PM me?

[Autumn]

I've now caught up on reading. I'm sorry I missed the deadline for Consul votes, I didn't expect to be gone so much today. I should have no problem voting early enough tomorrow.

For the record I would have voted for Kayus Whitus I think, for the same reason others have listed - he seemed to come off as trustworthy, coming out and suing indiscriminately. There's no one else I felt sure of for a consul vote, I don't have a definite vibe on Barkeepus, so I might have simply voted for myself there.

[Poli]

Cronin, do I get to know if I was hired at all now that the day is over?

[Coffee Warlord]

Here's what I find interesting, now. Take it for what it's worth.

There was one extra tidbit when I hired Swaggs that I didn't mention for obvious reasons. I was allowed to have him investigate one person that day. For the record, it was KWhit, and I was informed that Swaggs found no evidence of wrongdoing by him.

And now Swaggs is dead. Granted, he's in a high profile role to begin with, but I have to wonder if the bad guys knew exactly what ability Swaggs had and took care of business early.

Love ya AE, but I gotta wonder about you. I will concede that it's entirely possible only he had that ability, but, well, yeah.

[hoopsguy]

Originally Posted by Alan T

I promised I would tell what my service I bought did. The horse trader allows you to send 1 pm via Cronin to another person of your choice and receive a reply back via the same mechanism.

Confirmed.

[Poli]

Meh, whatever. I guess no one hired me. I didn't do any investigating.

[st.cronin]

Originally Posted by st.cronin

Coffeeus Yakus Warlordus has been freed, with only one Senator voting to convict.

Sorry, I forgot to elaborate on this. The reason there was only recorded vote for Yakus was the impassioned defense put on by Swaggus Swaggus. He was able to change 3 Senators' minds, out of 4 preliminary votes.

[st.cronin]

Originally Posted by ardent enthusiast

Cronin, do I get to know if I was hired at all now that the day is over?

There is no public record of you being hired.

[path12]

So the lawsuit came before the poisoning, or else the poisoning took time to take effect.

[hoopsguy]

Crap, KWhit is coming for me in a suit - the guy never loses!

[KWhit]

Originally Posted by st.cronin

Sorry, I forgot to elaborate on this. The reason there was only recorded vote for Yakus was the impassioned defense put on by Swaggus Swaggus. He was able to change 3 Senators' minds, out of 4 preliminary votes.

Wow. Important info for the future.

[Poli]

Originally Posted by st.cronin

There is no public record of you being hired.

QFT.

QFCW.

[Poli]

Gimme my apology, Warlord. Or I sue.

[st.cronin]

And with that, I'm done. PHEW! Sorry it took so long, the deadline snuck up on me, and I didn't get any of the prep work done.

[Autumn]

Originally Posted by Coffee Warlord

And now Swaggs is dead. Granted, he's in a high profile role to begin with, but I have to wonder if the bad guys knew exactly what ability Swaggs had and took care of business early.

It would seem that being the best lawyer in Rome would be reason enough to target him, as we can see the effect he had on the treason vote. But the fact that Snus Dvlus was targeted lends some credence to your idea, as I can't see any reason for that kill unless it was A) random, or B) Snus Dvlus had a service or power the traitors were aware of but we are not.

[Alan T]

Originally Posted by hoopsguy

Crap, KWhit is coming for me in a suit - the guy never loses!

But... he did lose.

[st.cronin]

Originally Posted by Alan T

But... he did lose.

lol

[Coffee Warlord]

Originally Posted by Autumn

It would seem that being the best lawyer in Rome would be reason enough to target him, as we can see the effect he had on the treason vote. But the fact that Snus Dvlus was targeted lends some credence to your idea, as I can't see any reason for that kill unless it was A) random, or B) Snus Dvlus had a service or power the traitors were aware of but we are not.

I actually disagree there, regarding Sunny D. They can't know every freakin ability everyone has, it'd be far too unbalancing.

[Coffee Warlord]

Originally Posted by Coffee Warlord

I actually disagree there, regarding Sunny D. They can't know every freakin ability everyone has, it'd be far too unbalancing.

And they could utilize Swaggs just as much as we could. Hell, likely even MORE useful if they could nab the best lawyer. Takes out a quasi scan type thing and can turn votes if they come under the gun.

[KWhit]

Originally Posted by Alan T

But... he did lose.

And I only went up one wealth level. Sheesh! What does a guy have to do?

[hoopsguy]

Originally Posted by Alan T

But... he did lose.

Well, 5-1 or 6-1 going from memory. Probably not the guy I'm looking to have after my miniscule wealth

[Poli]

Ardent sues Coffee Warlord for hating.

[Poli]

I've got about another 10 minutes before AE and his mistress retire to chambers and talk about benefit packages from becoming the best lawyer in all of Rome.

[Poli]

The Warlord can admit he's wrong and the suit will be dropped.

[Poli]

I love being the lawyer. This is fun.

[Autumn]

Originally Posted by Coffee Warlord

I actually disagree there, regarding Sunny D. They can't know every freakin ability everyone has, it'd be far too unbalancing.

True. So, perhaps the traitors know the abilities the various roles have, but not who has them (other than the public roles). Or perhaps they decided to target a random Senator. Still seems an odd pick.

Is there a chance that one of the services allowed a loyal Senator to kill a traitor? I don't know if that's something that ever crops up in WW games. I assume we would have seen evidence of that if so.

On another note, did anyone receive any information from their lawsuits? It seems so far that the practice of doing mass lawsuits has so far not helped, but has only made a couple Senators wealthier.

[KWhit]

Originally Posted by Autumn

On another note, did anyone receive any information from their lawsuits? It seems so far that the practice of doing mass lawsuits has so far not helped, but has only made a couple Senators wealthier.

I learned nothing from my lawsuits.

[Poli]

Ardent sues Coffee Warlord for ignoring Ardent.

[Poli]

I can do this all night. Well, actually, I'm probably down to the next 5 minutes.

[Autumn]

Originally Posted by Coffee Warlord

And they could utilize Swaggs just as much as we could. Hell, likely even MORE useful if they could nab the best lawyer. Takes out a quasi scan type thing and can turn votes if they come under the gun.

Well, that depends on whether we will have a replacement lawyer or not. If not, the traitors would have to choose between hoping to win the bidding for the lawyer every day, versus offing him and removing a key ability from the Senate. The surprise, it seems to me, is that they didn't off both lawyers if they had the ability to.

[Swaggs]

Originally Posted by Tyrith

do we get a new lawyer to replace the carcass formerly known as Swaggus?

Even as a cadaver, I am 10-times the lawyer that AE could ever hope to be!

[Poli]

At least I have the Cardinal game on. It's not chariot racing, but it'll do.

[Poli]

Originally Posted by Swaggs

Even as a cadaver, I am 10-times the lawyer that AE could ever hope to be!

Ha! At least I know how to hire bodyguards!

[Poli]

Ardent sues the family of Swaggs for past injustices.

[Poli]

Alright, everyone. I'm out till the early morning. See you at the Lion's Den.

[Alan T]

Originally Posted by Autumn

Well, that depends on whether we will have a replacement lawyer or not. If not, the traitors would have to choose between hoping to win the bidding for the lawyer every day, versus offing him and removing a key ability from the Senate. The surprise, it seems to me, is that they didn't off both lawyers if they had the ability to.

There was a replacement lawyer.

[Lorena]

Originally Posted by Coffee Warlord

Here's what I find interesting, now. Take it for what it's worth.

There was one extra tidbit when I hired Swaggs that I didn't mention for obvious reasons. I was allowed to have him investigate one person that day. For the record, it was KWhit, and I was informed that Swaggs found no evidence of wrongdoing by him.

And now Swaggs is dead. Granted, he's in a high profile role to begin with, but I have to wonder if the bad guys knew exactly what ability Swaggs had and took care of business early.

Love ya AE, but I gotta wonder about you. I will concede that it's entirely possible only he had that ability, but, well, yeah.

Yup, I can vouch for what he said because I was the one that hired Ardent Enthusiast. Thanks Coffee Warlord you are now in my Circle of Trust. The person I had investigated was AlanT and he has done nothing wrong. I could have had Ardent prosecute Coffee Warlord but chose not to.

I'm in a rush so I'll just leave it at that and let ya'll take it for what it's worth but for now my CoT:

Coffee Warlord
Kwhit
AlanT
Dodgerchick (of course)

I have some catching up to do but wont be able to until much later.

[st.cronin]

I'm still looking for a replacement for WVUFan. I've sent a couple of pms, but no luck yet. Anybody have any ideas?

[Poli]

Originally Posted by st.cronin

There is no public record of you being hired.

Originally Posted by Dodgerchick

Yup, I can vouch for what he said because I was the one that hired Ardent Enthusiast. Thanks Coffee Warlord you are now in my Circle of Trust. The person I had investigated was AlanT and he has done nothing wrong. I could have had Ardent prosecute Coffee Warlord but chose not to.

I'm in a rush so I'll just leave it at that and let ya'll take it for what it's worth but for now my CoT:

Coffee Warlord
Kwhit
AlanT
Dodgerchick (of course)

I have some catching up to do but wont be able to until much later.

????

[Coffee Warlord]

Originally Posted by Dodgerchick

Yup, I can vouch for what he said because I was the one that hired Ardent Enthusiast. Thanks Coffee Warlord you are now in my Circle of Trust. The person I had investigated was AlanT and he has done nothing wrong. I could have had Ardent prosecute Coffee Warlord but chose not to.

Now, the billion dinari question is, did AE and Swaggs know they had that ability or not? Unfortunately, I'm not sure if anyone can answer.

[Coffee Warlord]

Or ... heh. Good lord, was he hired or not.

[KWhit]

Originally Posted by Coffee Warlord

Or ... heh. Good lord, was he hired or not.

Yeah. Totally.

[Autumn]

Originally Posted by Dodgerchick

Yup, I can vouch for what he said because I was the one that hired Ardent Enthusiast. Thanks Coffee Warlord you are now in my Circle of Trust. The person I had investigated was AlanT and he has done nothing wrong. I could have had Ardent prosecute Coffee Warlord but chose not to.

So, is this to suggest that Ardentus Enthusiastus was hired, and his special services used, but he has no knowledge of it? I suppose there was no public record because he was not used in court.

[KWhit]

Originally Posted by Autumn

So, is this to suggest that Ardentus Enthusiastus was hired, and his special services used, but he has no knowledge of it? I suppose there was no public record because he was not used in court.

Ah. Maybe so. st.cronin said that he was going to keep the info from the lawyers (at least temporarily) for gameplay purposes.

That's a good theory, and would explain st.cronin's specific response that there was "no public record" of him being hired.