2016 Video Games Thread - Page 8

Edward64 · 10-31-2016, 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Galaril

I am tempted to pick up the new special edition of Skyrim 5 with all three expansions included. Might wait for a deal or price drop.

I read an article that there may be issues with the community mods working with the new edition. It pretty much said the new pretty graphics may not be worth the limitation.

Mizzou B-ball fan · 10-31-2016, 09:26 AM

Grandmother Who Plays Skyrim Has Made Over 300 Videos

JonInMiddleGA · 11-02-2016, 01:52 PM

Developers Must Now Use In-Game Screenshots On Steam | Digital Trends

bob · 11-04-2016, 07:07 AM

I picked up the Day of the Devs Humble Bundle today. If anyone wants the following keys that I know I won't be using, PM me. I'll give them out first come first serve.

Lumino City
Titan Souls (CLAIMED)
Massive Chalice (AVAILABLE AGAIN)

Apparently I already had Broken Age, so I have that up for grabs too.

bob · 11-08-2016, 07:00 AM

Is Wasteland 2 Director's Cut worth $16? I don't remember hearing much about it here.

Mizzou B-ball fan · 11-08-2016, 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by bob

Is Wasteland 2 Director's Cut worth $16? I don't remember hearing much about it here.

If you haven't played either version of Wasteland 2, it's definitely worth it.

Vince, Pt. II · 11-08-2016, 01:37 PM

Wasteland 2 is one of those games that is always in best-of-all-time discussions.

BYU 14 · 11-08-2016, 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by bob

Is Wasteland 2 Director's Cut worth $16? I don't remember hearing much about it here.

Don't even hesitate on that one, great deal!

SirFozzie · 11-08-2016, 03:17 PM

I really wanted to fund wasteland 3, but A) I haz no moneychips, and B) Even if I did cadge money from my family, pledging for a game due in "Winter 2019' is... yeah, no.

Mizzou B-ball fan · 11-10-2016, 02:39 PM

Looks like the deals/discounts thread has a problem, so I'll post here. Titanfall 2 already discounted to $35 on Amazon.

Amazon.com: Titanfall 2 - PlayStation 4: Video Games

chinaski · 11-10-2016, 02:40 PM

https://www.humblebundle.com/store/d...tion-free-game

Dirt 3 free on the Humble Store!

bob · 11-11-2016, 06:52 AM

Started / finished Firewatch last night. I totally understand anyone that either loved it or hated it.

I enjoyed the experience for the $12 I paid for it. There were some definite issues and the plot (in my opinion) didn't come all the way together, but overall I liked what they were going for.

This is stolen from one of the reviews, and I agree with it:

"This is the kind of game where the discussions that will arise afterwards are an important extension of the experience itself."

Given how short the game is, I'm likely to play through again with the "director's commentary" turned on.

Mizzou B-ball fan · 11-11-2016, 09:09 AM

Battlefield 1 is now $35 as well at Amazon.

EagleFan · 11-13-2016, 10:27 PM

Watch Dogs 2 coming out soon. Have to say, with as interested as I was before the first one came out I am equally disinterested about this one. The advertisements for it just don't pull me in (that and being disappointed by the first one).

Groundhog · 11-13-2016, 11:47 PM

The first Watch Dogs was basically the beginning of the end of my love for the gaming console in general.

djsatu · 11-14-2016, 12:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Vince, Pt. II

Wasteland 2 is one of those games that is always in best-of-all-time discussions.

Can get the directors cut PS4 version brand new for 25 bucks. Anyone play this game on console?

stevew · 11-14-2016, 03:20 AM

Telltale build your own bundle on Humble, if you buy 5 games they're 85% off list.

Mizzou B-ball fan · 11-17-2016, 12:45 PM

Just a reminder about the stocking site in case you're looking for a Classic NES.

NES Classic Edition - NowInStock.net

Mizzou B-ball fan · 11-26-2016, 11:13 AM

Long time, no hear........

No Man's Sky Developers Break Long Silence, Promise Update This Week

EagleFan · 11-26-2016, 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Mizzou B-ball fan

Long time, no hear........

No Man's Sky Developers Break Long Silence, Promise Update This Week

Do they promise to make it no longer suck?

MikeVic · 11-26-2016, 01:58 PM

Not sure if anyone can answer this... But for Black Friday, there was a new 3ds with a $139cdn price tag. I think the U.S. had it for $100 or something like that.

Anyway, it was sold out everywhere right away and I wasn't able to get one. I don't have a 3ds yet and was looking forward to finally diving into its library.

I'm hearing and reading conflicting reports about this only being a one-time thing vs a new version that will be restocked eventually. Does anyone know? Thanks!

Mizzou B-ball fan · 11-26-2016, 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeVic

Not sure if anyone can answer this... But for Black Friday, there was a new 3ds with a $139cdn price tag. I think the U.S. had it for $100 or something like that.

Anyway, it was sold out everywhere right away and I wasn't able to get one. I don't have a 3ds yet and was looking forward to finally diving into its library.

I'm hearing and reading conflicting reports about this only being a one-time thing vs a new version that will be restocked eventually. Does anyone know? Thanks!

Keep an eye on this page. They sold out, but they will be restocked at some point.

New Nintendo 3DS Preorder & In Stock Tracker - NowInStock.net

MikeVic · 11-26-2016, 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Mizzou B-ball fan

Keep an eye on this page. They sold out, but they will be restocked at some point.

New Nintendo 3DS Preorder & In Stock Tracker - NowInStock.net

I've never seen this site before, thanks! I've set up an alert for all four options on the Canadian tracker (Walmart and Amazon for both colour options).

NobodyHere · 11-27-2016, 09:00 PM

Amazon has the phhysical edition of XCOM 2 for $20.

Very tempted to buy it.

Julio Riddols · 11-27-2016, 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by NobodyHere

Amazon has the phhysical edition of XCOM 2 for $20.

Very tempted to buy it.

Me too.. Wondering how long that sale lasts.

SirFozzie · 11-28-2016, 11:17 AM

https://www.an8bitmind.com/index.php...-blah-tuesday/

The hardware sets out there feel evolutionary, not revolutionary, not a must buy in the group. And I'm kinda worried about some of the early reviews for FFXV...

Mizzou B-ball fan · 11-28-2016, 03:24 PM

Article about new additions to No Man's Sky.

No Man's Sky's New Update Makes The Game Much More Grounded

Patch notes:

No Man's Sky

Groundhog · 11-28-2016, 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Mizzou B-ball fan

Article about new additions to No Man's Sky.

No Man's Sky's New Update Makes The Game Much More Grounded

Patch notes:

No Man's Sky

Well, I guess it's cool that they added in basebuilding (although I imagine if you visit a planet you won't see other player's bases...), but it sure would've been neat if they'd managed to add a couple of the fictional features that were hyped pre-launch.

SirFozzie · 11-28-2016, 06:58 PM

There was 10,000 copies of Stadium Events ever made (remember, the one that was the power pad game before Nintendo bought it and the Power Pad and turned it into World Class Track Meet?).. Now, there are so few copies left in the wild that for those trying to get a copy of every NES game ever produced will pay $30,000 or more, despite the SAME game (the Nintendo version) going for $3.

Somehow I doubt we'll be doing the same thirty years from now for say, Call of Duty.

http://www.espn.com/espn/feature/sto...t-coveted-game

Mizzou B-ball fan · 11-29-2016, 08:50 AM

Interesting. Didn't know this was coming soon.

Ultimate General Is A Very Good Strategy Game

Thomkal · 12-01-2016, 10:19 AM

anyone else having problems with the Games/Specials Discounts thread? Last I can see is a post from me that's cut off half way through so I can't edit it, and I can't see anything past that.

Also Gog.com's Winter sale has started and for the next 40 or so hours you can get Neverwinter Nights-Diamond Edition for free. This includes three expansions.

sovereignstar v2 · 12-01-2016, 10:27 AM

Yes, I ran into the same issue as you with that thread.

Neuqua · 12-01-2016, 10:34 AM

I also had the same issue.

cartman · 12-01-2016, 11:00 AM

mckerney · 12-01-2016, 08:52 PM

RainMaker · 12-01-2016, 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by mckerney

Is this game even in production yet?

Mizzou B-ball fan · 12-02-2016, 08:56 AM

Fantastic speech last night if you didn't see it.

That Dragon, Cancer Designer Wins Game Award, Gives Heartbreaking Speech About Son Who Died

Atocep · 12-13-2016, 04:03 PM

Bought a 10 game mystery pack on GMG for $5 and got battlefield 1. Not bad.

Maple Leafs · 12-14-2016, 09:47 PM

Does anyone have any PS4 recommendations for someone who played and enjoyed Skyrim, Dragon's Age and Witcher?

I'm not much of a gamer in general, but I've enjoyed those ones. When I was a kid with an Amiga, every third game that came out was an RPG, but these days it seems like there's only one good one per year even though those ones seem to do incredibly well. Am I missing something? Do we all just wait around until Bethesda's four employees get around to making a new title for their flagship series in nine years?

korme · 12-14-2016, 10:05 PM

The Last of Us Remastered. It's not open world but it tells a story similarly and has many of the same characteristics.

Honolulu_Blue · 12-15-2016, 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by korme

The Last of Us Remastered. It's not open world but it tells a story similarly and has many of the same characteristics.

I second this.

It's different from Witcher, Dragon Age, and Skyrim, but I enjoyed all of those games and absolutely loved "The Last of Us." It's easily one of my favorite games of all times and I will probably end up buying a PS4 just so I can play the sequel.

There is also the Fallout games - Fallout 4 being the most recent - which are essentially Skyrim in a post-apocalyptic future.

dawgfan · 12-15-2016, 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Honolulu_Blue

I second this.

It's different from Witcher, Dragon Age, and Skyrim, but I enjoyed all of those games and absolutely loved "The Last of Us." It's easily one of my favorite games of all times and I will probably end up buying a PS4 just so I can play the sequel.

There is also the Fallout games - Fallout 4 being the most recent - which are essentially Skyrim in a post-apocalyptic future.

Last of Us is my favorite Naughty Dog game (known for the Uncharted series), and one of my very favorite games of all time. Well worth the purchase.

Thomkal · 12-16-2016, 07:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mizzou B-ball fan

Article about new additions to No Man's Sky.

No Man's Sky's New Update Makes The Game Much More Grounded

Patch notes:

No Man's Sky

There's a trailer out for the update I saw-one which you'll actually see and be able to do everything in it. I'm glad Hello Games tried to restore their reputation. Looks pretty amazing, now have to wait for a good sale on it

No Man’s Sky Update Pretty Much Fixes All Of The Game’s Problems – Johnny, etc.

oykib · 12-17-2016, 04:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Maple Leafs

Does anyone have any PS4 recommendations for someone who played and enjoyed Skyrim, Dragon's Age and Witcher?

I'm not much of a gamer in general, but I've enjoyed those ones. When I was a kid with an Amiga, every third game that came out was an RPG, but these days it seems like there's only one good one per year even though those ones seem to do incredibly well. Am I missing something? Do we all just wait around until Bethesda's four employees get around to making a new title for their flagship series in nine years?

Shadow of Mordor should be pretty cheap by now. I think it might be the closest to the games you mentioned. If you're not stuck on fantasy, keep an eye on Mass Effect: Andromeda, which comes out in a few months.Fallout 4 is in the same boat, but it's been out for a while and you can pick it up fairly inexpensively at a Gamestop or whatever.

If you're more a story player than an open-world player, you could try GTA V or Mafia III, Mafia III had some problems, though. It is, however, another cheap option. My last ideas would be Deus Ex: Mankind Divided or Watchdogs 2. None of the ones in this paragraph are fantasy, though. Check some let's plays on Youtube to get a better understanding before you purchase.

djsatu · 12-17-2016, 03:56 PM

I'm late to the party, but I downloaded the Resident Evil 7 last night and was honestly terrified from start to finish. Can't believe a game could get me in a way like that game has. Can't imagine playing it in VR....

Maple Leafs · 12-19-2016, 07:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Honolulu_Blue

There is also the Fallout games - Fallout 4 being the most recent - which are essentially Skyrim in a post-apocalyptic future.

Yeah, I did end up playing that earlier in the year and was surprised that I liked it. I don't normally go for sci-fi but Fallout worked for me.

I ended up getting one of the Fallout DLCs, hopefully that will tide me over for a while until something new comes out.

Honolulu_Blue · 12-19-2016, 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Maple Leafs

Yeah, I did end up playing that earlier in the year and was surprised that I liked it. I don't normally go for sci-fi but Fallout worked for me.

I ended up getting one of the Fallout DLCs, hopefully that will tide me over for a while until something new comes out.

/returns to thread to make a witty one-liner about tiding you over until the Maple Leafs are actually good

/checks standings

/sees the Wings only have one more point than the Leafs with two games in hand

/quietly leaves thread

dawgfan · 12-19-2016, 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by oykib

Shadow of Mordor should be pretty cheap by now.

Plus, buying it and becoming a fan of that game would help out a fellow long-time FOFC member...

Mizzou B-ball fan · 12-20-2016, 11:42 AM

I'm amused by all the people flipping out over NES systems being available today in limited quantity. They'll be all over the place by late January. Not sure what the rush is all about.

CraigSca · 12-20-2016, 11:55 AM

Cool, where are they available?

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