Werewolf V: Mount Fogg - Page 14

Joe · 07-13-2005, 08:24 PM

oh yeah, I wanted to kill schmidty off early, but Raven thought we should keep him around and it could work to his advantage, since they knew each other outside of the game.

Neon_Chaos · 07-13-2005, 08:25 PM

When GWB voted for Schmidty, I was about 90% sure that it was Raven/GWB. I wasn't sure who was the Wolf King though, and I was willing to take a 50/50 chance by riding with Schmidty's GWB vote and get a duel.

Unfortunately, Raven played some mind games on Schmidty and he switched, and my last second plea couldn't seal the deal for us.

Schmidty · 07-13-2005, 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by George W Bush

oh yeah, I wanted to kill schmidty off early, but Raven thought we should keep him around and it could work to his advantage, since they knew each other outside of the game.

Well, that worked out for you, since Raven's guilt trip really convinced me. I'm such a sucker.

Joe · 07-13-2005, 08:31 PM

in case you guys didn't know, I was really serious about not being able to post at FOFC from work. in fact, I was going to ask kwhit for a replacement, but when I came home to find 4 PMs in my inbox about me now being a wolf, I figured what the hell.

Neon_Chaos · 07-13-2005, 08:42 PM

oh, and thanks for running the game again, KWhit!

KWhit · 07-13-2005, 08:45 PM

I enjoyed it, guys! I think you all played a good game. I hope you enjoyed it!

I'll run another more experimental and complex game in a week or two, so keep your eyes peeled.

Schmidty · 07-13-2005, 08:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KWhit

I enjoyed it, guys! I think you all played a good game. I hope you enjoyed it!

I'll run another more experimental and complex game in a week or two, so keep your eyes peeled.

Sign me up right now in case I don't see it in time!!! You ran a super game. Thanks again.

KWhit · 07-13-2005, 08:49 PM

You're on the list!

Thomkal · 07-13-2005, 08:49 PM

Oh and I felt real bad about Fouts being jumped on for what I thought was pretty shaky reasons at the time. I thought it was an innocent comment, but had to go along with it to save my own skin. Because you see I was the first one to suggest we shouldn't be voting for Blackadar not you-and no one picked up on it after it was revealed he was a wolf. Instead they went after you. Would have liked to have defended you.

Oh and I thought the whole "butt sniffing" reason for voting for Blackadar was pretty crazy too.

Neon_Chaos · 07-13-2005, 08:54 PM

Sign me up as well KWhit!

Fouts · 07-13-2005, 09:04 PM

Yes, I got the shaft. Lucky for the werewolves. I never suspected Raven, but GWB was suspicious.

Neon_Chaos · 07-13-2005, 10:26 PM

JeeberD, who were the guys that you viewed?

heybrad · 07-13-2005, 10:50 PM

Great game Kwhit. I was surprised that a lot of focus stayed on me after what I thought we're pretty easy hints that I was the Duke. I kept getting in a position where I was sure about a guy and then he'd give a great "Save Me, You're Wrong" speech. I felt like if I switched at that point I'd look like a sucker so I stuck with my votes. I guess it didnt turn out so well.

Schmidty · 07-13-2005, 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by heybrad

Great game Kwhit. I was surprised that a lot of focus stayed on me after what I thought we're pretty easy hints that I was the Duke. I kept getting in a position where I was sure about a guy and then he'd give a great "Save Me, You're Wrong" speech. I felt like if I switched at that point I'd look like a sucker so I stuck with my votes. I guess it didnt turn out so well.

Told ya so.

Peregrine · 07-13-2005, 11:14 PM

Congratulations wolves! Nicely played in this one, from what I read.

mrsimperless · 07-13-2005, 11:42 PM

From what I heard Jeeber saw Schmidty, Henry, heybrad, and ntndeacon as villagers. He saw no wolves.

Raven · 07-14-2005, 12:28 AM

KWhit, the only problem I had with the roles was the sorceror. It's a nice basis of a role, but I think you should consider expanding it a bit.

Maybe just eliminate one wolf, and let the sorceror be a wolf, but with the power to see the seer.

Or maybe just let the sorceror know who the wolves are, but not let the wolves know who the sorceror is?

You can play with the idea a bit, but as it now stands, I think the sorceror role isn't very important. Maybe it's just because ours got killed off early. How has the role been in the other games?

Raiders Army · 07-14-2005, 05:44 AM

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Originally Posted by digamma

As the bodyguard I was almost completely a failure, though I did protect all villagers.

The first night I protected Schmidty because of a post by RaidersArmy identifying him as a villager. I was hoping that I had gotten lucky with a random correct pick, but I see now the wolves were able to turn the cursed that night.

The second night I protected RaidersArmy, because it seemed he had been the most vocal to that point. Instead, the wolves took out Thomkal, who had one long, insightful post, but I thought he would be overlooked by the wolves.

Night three was probably the biggest mistake on my part. Simperless was the obvious choice and was targeted, but I thought the wolves would assume the bodyguard was protecting simperless and pick someone else. I went with ntndeacon at that point, on a hunch.

That of course put me in a bind because the next day was ntndeacon's reveal, so I couldn't protect him again that night. I went with RaidersArmy again, because it seemed like the wolves had gone back to targeting the vocal ones. That's when the wolves got me.

Maybe some overthinking on my part.

I thought maybe I had been right in my initial vote for Raven that day, and that's why the wolves had targeted me. Now I see it was GWB who was my nemesis.

All in all, good game. Congrats, wolves.

Thanks for watching my back.

Peregrine · 07-14-2005, 05:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Raven

KWhit, the only problem I had with the roles was the sorceror. It's a nice basis of a role, but I think you should consider expanding it a bit.

Maybe just eliminate one wolf, and let the sorceror be a wolf, but with the power to see the seer.

Or maybe just let the sorceror know who the wolves are, but not let the wolves know who the sorceror is?

You can play with the idea a bit, but as it now stands, I think the sorceror role isn't very important. Maybe it's just because ours got killed off early. How has the role been in the other games?

I can try to answer this one. Yes, the Sorceror is a strange role. In some games, like my second one, there are two roles, one is the Sorceror and one is the Cultist. The Cultist knows who the wolves are but they don't know him, but doesn't have any other powers. The problem is that combining that with the Sorceror's ability makes that character TOO powerful. My new take on the Sorceror is that when they are scanning people to find the Seer, they can also ID the wolves at that point. Either they can only ID the first wolf they see (probably the best bet) or they can ID all of them. Of course this creates the possibility of a very strong Sorceror if he survives long enough!

JeeberD · 07-14-2005, 06:38 AM

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Originally Posted by mrsimperless

From what I heard Jeeber saw Schmidty, Henry, heybrad, and ntndeacon as villagers. He saw no wolves.

You are correct. The night I got killed I was going to view RA. I'm apparently a terrible seer...

KWhit · 07-14-2005, 07:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Peregrine

I can try to answer this one. Yes, the Sorceror is a strange role. In some games, like my second one, there are two roles, one is the Sorceror and one is the Cultist. The Cultist knows who the wolves are but they don't know him, but doesn't have any other powers. The problem is that combining that with the Sorceror's ability makes that character TOO powerful. My new take on the Sorceror is that when they are scanning people to find the Seer, they can also ID the wolves at that point. Either they can only ID the first wolf they see (probably the best bet) or they can ID all of them. Of course this creates the possibility of a very strong Sorceror if he survives long enough!

I agree. Basically, in the rules we used this time, the sorcerer goes from having almost no power before he finds the seer, to having a LOT of power once he finds the seer.

The seer is a very powerful player and anyone who has the knowledge of who that is becomes very powerful - especially if no one else knows that you know. Think about it, not only can you try to get the seer lynched before he finds a wolf, but you can look at his old posts and see who he was defending (probably a known villager) and who he's strongly going after (probably a werewolf).

If the sorcerer finds the seer, he becomes a pretty powerful character.

KWhit · 07-14-2005, 07:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Neon_Chaos

Sign me up as well KWhit!

Got you on the list.

Raiders Army · 07-14-2005, 07:38 AM

I'd like in as well. It might be interesting if we played a different game with the same people in different roles. Would biases carry over to the new game?

KWhit · 07-14-2005, 07:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Raiders Army

I'd like in as well. It might be interesting if we played a different game with the same people in different roles. Would biases carry over to the new game?

I find that they do carry over a little bit, but only because people post similarly no matter what role they are.

A poster usually falls into a category while playing - whether they are insightful and pay attention, or if they are irrational, or maybe just never around and very quiet.

I find that I have biases for and against some of those player types. Those biases stay no matter what the roles are.

Raven · 07-14-2005, 03:06 PM

KWhit, you can sign me up for the next game.

I would have signed up WW6, but I needed a break. This game really is time intensive.

KWhit · 07-14-2005, 03:34 PM

Okey dokey.

Raiders Army · 07-14-2005, 03:36 PM

I guess since I asked to be part of Werewolf V, and it took a little prompting to actually get in, I'll have to be more straightforward.

KWHIT, YOU CAN SIGN ME UP FOR THE NEXT GAME AS WELL.

KWhit · 07-14-2005, 03:38 PM

You're on the list.

KWhit · 07-14-2005, 03:39 PM

In fact, you were already on the list before the prompting.

mrsimperless · 07-14-2005, 03:39 PM

Me three KWhit. I'll have a Samuel Jackson too.

Raiders Army · 07-14-2005, 03:44 PM

Many thanx KWhit. Enjoyed this game.

ntndeacon · 07-14-2005, 04:26 PM

ooo, Iwould like to be on the list too Kwhit!

mrsimperless · 07-14-2005, 04:28 PM

Yes, and thank you for running things KWhit. It was a lot of fun. I had actually heard about the game for a while, but I hadn't heard of it being played on a message board before. Thanks for giving me the chance to try it out.

Mr. Wednesday · 07-14-2005, 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Raven

KWhit, you can sign me up for the next game.

I would have signed up WW6, but I needed a break. This game really is time intensive.

It's not so bad when you manage to get yourself lynched in the first day.

KWhit · 07-14-2005, 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by ntndeacon

ooo, Iwould like to be on the list too Kwhit!

Done.

Fouts · 07-14-2005, 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Wednesday

It's not so bad when you manage to get yourself lynched in the first day.

Try inadventently supporting a werewolf, then nobody believing you made a mistake. At least I got vindication with the sorceror dying, too bad it didn't help.

mrsimperless · 07-14-2005, 08:13 PM

In case my idiotic post above made no sense I want to play in your next game as well Kwhit.

Sometimes my stupid references make a lot more sense to me than to others.

KWhit · 07-14-2005, 08:19 PM

I had figured it out.

kingfc22 · 07-15-2005, 01:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Fouts

Try inadventently supporting a werewolf, then nobody believing you made a mistake. At least I got vindication with the sorceror dying, too bad it didn't help.

Still unclear on why you find this vindicating. The sorcerer has no clue who the wolves are and vise-versa.

07-13-2005, 08:25 PM	#652
Neon_Chaos Pro Starter Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Parañaque, Philippines	When GWB voted for Schmidty, I was about 90% sure that it was Raven/GWB. I wasn't sure who was the Wolf King though, and I was willing to take a 50/50 chance by riding with Schmidty's GWB vote and get a duel. Unfortunately, Raven played some mind games on Schmidty and he switched, and my last second plea couldn't seal the deal for us. __________________ Come and see.

07-13-2005, 08:42 PM	#655
Neon_Chaos Pro Starter Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Parañaque, Philippines	oh, and thanks for running the game again, KWhit! __________________ Come and see.

07-13-2005, 08:54 PM	#660
Neon_Chaos Pro Starter Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Parañaque, Philippines	Sign me up as well KWhit! __________________ Come and see.

07-13-2005, 10:26 PM	#662
Neon_Chaos Pro Starter Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Parañaque, Philippines	JeeberD, who were the guys that you viewed? __________________ Come and see.

07-13-2005, 11:42 PM	#666
mrsimperless College Prospect Join Date: Apr 2003	From what I heard Jeeber saw Schmidty, Henry, heybrad, and ntndeacon as villagers. He saw no wolves. __________________ "All I know is that smart women are hot. Susan Polgar beat me in 24 moves in a simultaneous exhbition. I slept with the scoresheet under my pillow." Off some dude's web site.

07-13-2005, 08:24 PM	#651
Joe Pro Starter Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Minneapolis	oh yeah, I wanted to kill schmidty off early, but Raven thought we should keep him around and it could work to his advantage, since they knew each other outside of the game.

07-13-2005, 08:31 PM	#654
Joe Pro Starter Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Minneapolis	in case you guys didn't know, I was really serious about not being able to post at FOFC from work. in fact, I was going to ask kwhit for a replacement, but when I came home to find 4 PMs in my inbox about me now being a wolf, I figured what the hell.

07-13-2005, 08:45 PM	#656
KWhit Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Conyers GA	I enjoyed it, guys! I think you all played a good game. I hope you enjoyed it! I'll run another more experimental and complex game in a week or two, so keep your eyes peeled.

07-13-2005, 08:49 PM	#658
KWhit Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Conyers GA	You're on the list!

07-13-2005, 08:49 PM	#659
Thomkal Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Surfside Beach,SC USA	Oh and I felt real bad about Fouts being jumped on for what I thought was pretty shaky reasons at the time. I thought it was an innocent comment, but had to go along with it to save my own skin. Because you see I was the first one to suggest we shouldn't be voting for Blackadar not you-and no one picked up on it after it was revealed he was a wolf. Instead they went after you. Would have liked to have defended you. Oh and I thought the whole "butt sniffing" reason for voting for Blackadar was pretty crazy too.

07-13-2005, 09:04 PM	#661
Fouts College Starter Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: California	Yes, I got the shaft. Lucky for the werewolves. I never suspected Raven, but GWB was suspicious.

07-13-2005, 10:50 PM	#663
heybrad Norm!!! Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Manassas, VA	Great game Kwhit. I was surprised that a lot of focus stayed on me after what I thought we're pretty easy hints that I was the Duke. I kept getting in a position where I was sure about a guy and then he'd give a great "Save Me, You're Wrong" speech. I felt like if I switched at that point I'd look like a sucker so I stuck with my votes. I guess it didnt turn out so well.

07-13-2005, 11:14 PM	#665
Peregrine Pro Starter Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Cary, NC	Congratulations wolves! Nicely played in this one, from what I read.

07-14-2005, 12:28 AM	#667
Raven College Prospect Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Baltimore, MD	KWhit, the only problem I had with the roles was the sorceror. It's a nice basis of a role, but I think you should consider expanding it a bit. Maybe just eliminate one wolf, and let the sorceror be a wolf, but with the power to see the seer. Or maybe just let the sorceror know who the wolves are, but not let the wolves know who the sorceror is? You can play with the idea a bit, but as it now stands, I think the sorceror role isn't very important. Maybe it's just because ours got killed off early. How has the role been in the other games?

07-14-2005, 07:38 AM	#673
Raiders Army Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The Black Hole	I'd like in as well. It might be interesting if we played a different game with the same people in different roles. Would biases carry over to the new game?

07-14-2005, 03:06 PM	#675
Raven College Prospect Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Baltimore, MD	KWhit, you can sign me up for the next game. I would have signed up WW6, but I needed a break. This game really is time intensive.

07-14-2005, 03:34 PM	#676
KWhit Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Conyers GA	Okey dokey.

07-14-2005, 03:36 PM	#677
Raiders Army Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The Black Hole	I guess since I asked to be part of Werewolf V, and it took a little prompting to actually get in, I'll have to be more straightforward. KWHIT, YOU CAN SIGN ME UP FOR THE NEXT GAME AS WELL.

07-14-2005, 03:38 PM	#678
KWhit Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Conyers GA	You're on the list.

07-14-2005, 03:39 PM	#679
KWhit Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Conyers GA	In fact, you were already on the list before the prompting.

07-14-2005, 03:39 PM	#680
mrsimperless College Prospect Join Date: Apr 2003	Me three KWhit. I'll have a Samuel Jackson too. __________________ "All I know is that smart women are hot. Susan Polgar beat me in 24 moves in a simultaneous exhbition. I slept with the scoresheet under my pillow." Off some dude's web site.

07-14-2005, 03:44 PM	#681
Raiders Army Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The Black Hole	Many thanx KWhit. Enjoyed this game.

07-14-2005, 04:26 PM	#682
ntndeacon Pro Starter Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Alabama	ooo, Iwould like to be on the list too Kwhit!

07-14-2005, 04:28 PM	#683
mrsimperless College Prospect Join Date: Apr 2003	Yes, and thank you for running things KWhit. It was a lot of fun. I had actually heard about the game for a while, but I hadn't heard of it being played on a message board before. Thanks for giving me the chance to try it out. __________________ "All I know is that smart women are hot. Susan Polgar beat me in 24 moves in a simultaneous exhbition. I slept with the scoresheet under my pillow." Off some dude's web site.

07-14-2005, 08:13 PM	#687
mrsimperless College Prospect Join Date: Apr 2003	In case my idiotic post above made no sense I want to play in your next game as well Kwhit. Sometimes my stupid references make a lot more sense to me than to others. __________________ "All I know is that smart women are hot. Susan Polgar beat me in 24 moves in a simultaneous exhbition. I slept with the scoresheet under my pillow." Off some dude's web site.

07-14-2005, 08:19 PM	#688
KWhit Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Conyers GA	I had figured it out.

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