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Old 02-15-2013, 11:35 PM   #1
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1870 (Season 33) Off-season Thread

1870 SALARY CAP (By Team)
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$73,752,297 Punxsutawney Phils $148,199,111 Gettysburg Gomers $105,389,974 Columbus Crusaders $138,247,646 Wyoming Plowboys $97,835,500 Denver Crows $105,654,719 Winnemucca Lake Monsters $95,662,750 Brooklyn Titans $97,934,750 Las Vegas Aces $96,236,386 Cuyahoga Spiders $102,698,324 Chicago Hornets $100,534,750 Washington Grays $100,209,068 Lake Tahoe Syndicate $104,910,844 Los Angeles Villains $102,422,500 Rio Grande Rough Riders $101,915,000 Carolina Kings $95,744,146 New York Skyliners $102,930,000 Cleveland Laborers $102,111,250 Memphis Smokers $112,677,068 Grand Rapids Robins $104,789,500 Portland Thorns

Financials with playoff bonuses are calculated and here are the cap figures for next year. These will be adjusted if trades are made this off-season.


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Old 02-18-2013, 01:34 AM   #2
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The successor to St. Louis will move to the AL East, Chicago Hornets to the AL West next year. Portland is going back to the NL West and Columbus back to the NL East for next season, as well. We play a balanced schedule, so in theory none of this really matters all that much and with playoff changes only allow the top three regardless of division, division parity isn't even all that important.

Still, the moves will happen.
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Old 02-18-2013, 01:30 PM   #3
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mavericktango has bowed out. In his place, we're welcoming MrBug708 is taking over New York Skyliners. He's a FOFC vet and we're happy to have him board.

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Old 02-18-2013, 04:15 PM   #4
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Worth noting that stats next year should be back to normal. That was a one-year anomaly thanks to a button not being checked in-game.
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Old 02-18-2013, 05:07 PM   #5
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I saw you guys switched to 1-10, but I have guys who are at an elite level, but are ranked 1 star. I'm assuming that there are just as many guys ranked accordingly or better, hence the ratings so low?

Looks like a hitting friendly league
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Old 02-18-2013, 05:24 PM   #6
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I saw you guys switched to 1-10, but I have guys who are at an elite level, but are ranked 1 star. I'm assuming that there are just as many guys ranked accordingly or better, hence the ratings so low?

Looks like a hitting friendly league

Yeah, that's precisely it. It sort of ebbs and flows and last year was really a mistake year because there was a setting in-game that I forgot to check and so it threw stats off considerably. If you want to see how stuff "normally" is, just ignore last year's stats and look at the previous seasons of guys because that's a better indication.

There are some guys with low stars/ratings who have managed to break out though and do well in spite of that. So I tend to say that stats really do have some weight as much or more than ratings in some cases with certain players, especially once they have a track record.

Also elite pitching is worth its weight in gold. It's shifting more now that a lot of our elite guys are retiring and making way for a new generation of guys, but...that's been the consistent theme for all 32+ seasons of the league is that you can never have enough quality starters, though lately teams like Lake Tahoe pile up on top arms and then don't have the offense to win games despite top-5 rotations.

So there's that.

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Old 02-18-2013, 06:00 PM   #7
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I saw you guys switched to 1-10, but I have guys who are at an elite level, but are ranked 1 star. I'm assuming that there are just as many guys ranked accordingly or better, hence the ratings so low?

Looks like a hitting friendly league


I call it ratings inflation. I've seen it in other leagues.
It does make it hard to differentiate your squad from other teams, especially when every team has ten guys with 10 contact ratings and 9 power ratings.

I think that's why the 1-100 ratings worked better in this league. At least you can see some difference, and can predict performance a little better.

Hopefully in the future, we'll have a few less talented draft classes thrown in to help fight the inflation.
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Old 02-18-2013, 06:46 PM   #8
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I just changed "actual" rating to 1-100. I left potential ratings at 1-10. See how that works for you all this year.

The game also retired Salavisa because he turned 45, but he didn't have a bad year and played 162 games again. So I unretired him and since he's a franchise player just put him back in Vegas again.

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Old 02-18-2013, 06:55 PM   #9
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The other problem with players and "normalizing stats" is we can easily go to having not so good players if you all prefer that, it'll just mean that you're going to see years of draft classes with sub-par talent relative to what we have...this class of guys will hang on for years and then about 10-15 seasons, we'll start to see those other guys emerging.

I'm fine with it, just saying that you shouldn't expect to see much in the way of star talent coming through the lower rounds of the draft save for a dev bump.
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Old 02-18-2013, 07:55 PM   #10
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I call it ratings inflation. I've seen it in other leagues.
It does make it hard to differentiate your squad from other teams, especially when every team has ten guys with 10 contact ratings and 9 power ratings.

I think that's why the 1-100 ratings worked better in this league. At least you can see some difference, and can predict performance a little better.

Hopefully in the future, we'll have a few less talented draft classes thrown in to help fight the inflation.

Im in the PCJBL with mostly FOFC guys and we used 1-20 for the first time ever and I hated it at first but now I love it after previously only enjoying 1-10. Looking at the 1-10, especially seeing a 8/8/8 kind of guy rated as a 1* where in years past, that would be a 5 star.

Will be an adjustment for sure
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Old 02-18-2013, 09:32 PM   #11
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Why does the draft class suck again?
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Old 02-19-2013, 12:03 AM   #12
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Why does the draft class suck again?

The game knows there is talent inflation. And this isn't even as bad as it was originally.
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Old 02-19-2013, 12:09 AM   #13
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I guess I'll run the file.

I wracked my brain on a new team name. I would've just kept the Aviators, but I preferred not to sully their legacy with a shitty future team. Plus I just wanted to cut bait. Not that any of you should care. Silly things like this keep me wanting to mess around with this.

Anyway...I debated what to do with them and where to put them even going as far to look at all of my past teams in FOBL/FOOL/SLOP to see where they've been to figure out where to go.

Ultimately, I decided on Pennsylvania. I wanted to put them in Philadelphia, but couldn't come up with a good enough moniker. Then it hit me. Punxsutawney and so, the new team is called the Punxsutawney Phils.

Slick color scheme, nice logo and so forth. Borderline ridiculous name, but the alteration and the fact that I get my Philadelphia team without being orthodox put me over the top.

So historically, the Aviators were sold to a new ownership group which moved them to Pennsylvania where the team will play in Philadelphia with one series a year in Punxsutawney. The new franchise gets the Ravens treatment so all of those STL trades will obviously be with the new club simply because I've already made the fix in-game.


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Old 02-19-2013, 12:21 AM   #14
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I have no idea who is on my team. I just know there are a ton of new faces I need to integrate and somehow make into a team.
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Old 02-19-2013, 12:23 AM   #15
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Post-trade salary cap figures:

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$73,752,297 Punxsutawney Phils $148,199,111 Gettysburg Gomers $105,389,974 Columbus Crusaders $138,247,646 Wyoming Plowboys $97,835,500 Denver Crows $105,654,719 Winnemucca Lake Monsters $95,662,750 Brooklyn Titans $97,934,750 Las Vegas Aces $96,236,386 Cuyahoga Spiders $102,698,324 Chicago Hornets $100,534,750 Washington Grays $100,209,068 Lake Tahoe Syndicate $104,910,844 Los Angeles Villains $102,422,500 Rio Grande Rough Riders $101,915,000 Carolina Kings $95,744,146 New York Skyliners $102,930,000 Cleveland Laborers $102,111,250 Memphis Smokers $112,677,068 Grand Rapids Robins $104,789,500 Portland Thorns
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Old 02-19-2013, 12:25 AM   #16
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Draft time.
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Old 02-19-2013, 12:46 AM   #17
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Oct 1869 | Nov 1869
Sunday, October 31st, 1869
Chicago Hornets: Signed C T.J. Graber to a 4-year contract extension worth a total of $60,000,000.
Monday, October 25th, 1869
Cuyahoga Spiders: Signed 2B Johnny Bice to a 3-year contract extension worth a total of $6,000,000.
Sunday, October 24th, 1869
Los Angeles Villains: Signed SP R.J. Musumeci to a 3-year contract extension worth a total of $6,000,000.
Grand Rapids Robins: Signed MR Dusty Nichols to a 1-year contract extension worth a total of $535,000.
Friday, October 22nd, 1869
Los Angeles Villains: Signed MR Jimmy Evans to a 3-year contract extension worth a total of $1,800,000.
Thursday, October 21st, 1869
Carolina Kings: Signed 3B Jon Gomez to a 5-year contract extension worth a total of $108,000,000.
Wednesday, October 20th, 1869
Memphis Smokers: Signed 3B Francisco Mata to a 2-year contract extension worth a total of $5,450,000.
Winnemucca Lake Monsters: Signed SS J.J. Tullgren to a 4-year contract extension worth a total of $16,900,000.
Chicago Hornets: Signed SP Pat Davies to a 2-year contract extension worth a total of $4,000,000.
Winnemucca Lake Monsters: Signed MR Joe Haeusl to a 4-year contract extension worth a total of $2,000,000.
Grand Rapids Robins: Signed MR Ron Porebski to a 2-year contract extension worth a total of $1,360,000.
Los Angeles Villains: Signed SP C.J. Applegate to a 1-year contract extension worth a total of $1,165,000.
Memphis Smokers: Signed MR Javy Samaniego to a 3-year contract extension worth a total of $6,000,000.
Memphis Smokers: Signed SP J.D. Carter to a 3-year contract extension worth a total of $21,500,000.
Grand Rapids Robins: Signed RF Tony Ayala to a 2-year contract extension worth a total of $6,450,000.
Grand Rapids Robins: Signed C Danny Ruiz to a 1-year contract extension worth a total of $465,000.
Memphis Smokers: Signed C Pat Trotta to a 2-year contract extension worth a total of $2,650,000.
New York Skyliners: Signed MR Pat Geddes to a 2-year contract extension worth a total of $15,000,000.
Los Angeles Villains: Signed MR J.J. Mixson to a 1-year contract extension worth a total of $600,000.
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Old 02-19-2013, 01:16 AM   #18
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File is up. FA1 is tomorrow night.
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Old 02-19-2013, 06:58 AM   #19
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The game knows there is talent inflation. And this isn't even as bad as it was originally.


I was pretty happy with the draft. Not ridiculously talented, but good enough to get some key pieces.

I ended up getting guys from my draft list all the way through the 10th round, for the first time.

There have been seasons where there have only been 20 guys that'd I'd actually want to put on a draft list.
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Old 02-19-2013, 08:30 AM   #20
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I went pitching heavy, pleased to have gotten Zach "Screech" Morris and he moves directly into my starting rotation. The AI thinks Oren is my best pitcher so that makes two rookies in the starting five. We'll see how this team does, thought I'm not inspired at the moment.
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Old 02-19-2013, 11:05 AM   #21
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I think that's why the 1-100 ratings worked better in this league. At least you can see some difference, and can predict performance a little better.
Actually, I completely disagree. 1 - 10 works so much better now because you don't automatically know which of your 10 rated players are the best. I find that evens things out a little even with the inflated ratings; which will regress now that the feeder leagues are gone. In a few seasons those 6 or 7 rated players will actually be able to make a major league team and contribute.

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I just changed "actual" rating to 1-100. I left potential ratings at 1-10. See how that works for you all this year.
Ugh! I don't mean to be a pest, but more than half the league preferred the 1-10 scale and, like most things in this league, it is just arbitrarily changed with no warning or discussion. I know this is your league, but it is difficult to get invested in it and be part of the community when things change all the time without having a chance to give your opinion / thoughts.

I was just really starting to enjoy the league for the first time and then WHAM! a bunch of negative changes come down the pipe.

I am enjoying nurturing Portland to respectability, but hope you consider listening to the majority and reduce the ratings scale to 1-10 again.

Thanks.
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Old 02-19-2013, 11:13 AM   #22
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This dual ratings system bullshit is terrible.

Go fuck a goat.
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Old 02-19-2013, 11:23 AM   #24
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I only changed it so you all could look at it. It wasn't meant to be permanent. It'll be fixed in the new file I'm about to upload that fixes the financials for Wyoming and Gettysburg, they didn't have full cap. Won't impact exports, etc.
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Old 02-19-2013, 11:30 AM   #25
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This dual ratings system bullshit is terrible.

Go fuck a goat.



I have to agree with the Subbinator on this one... except for the goat fucking.
(I do think it was nice seeing the actual ratings for this short period though. Thanks DC. Maybe we can do that for 1 offseason sim each season if it's not too much work.)


I think the argument that a 1-10 system is better because it keeps you guessing more is completely ridiculous. If you really want to keep guessing, how 'bout getting rid of all ratings and just go by past performance.

I'm ok with 1-10. Prefer 1-100 in this league, but either way is fine.
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Old 02-19-2013, 11:34 AM   #26
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So new file up now. Ratings back to normal. Everyone's cap adjusted to where it ought to be.
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Old 02-19-2013, 11:43 AM   #27
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Actually, I completely disagree. 1 - 10 works so much better now because you don't automatically know which of your 10 rated players are the best. I find that evens things out a little even with the inflated ratings; which will regress now that the feeder leagues are gone. In a few seasons those 6 or 7 rated players will actually be able to make a major league team and contribute.

Ugh! I don't mean to be a pest, but more than half the league preferred the 1-10 scale and, like most things in this league, it is just arbitrarily changed with no warning or discussion. I know this is your league, but it is difficult to get invested in it and be part of the community when things change all the time without having a chance to give your opinion / thoughts.


What else changed that caused some consternation? I'm just curious, because New York (ex-owner) said something similar.

The thing is, the majority of the people here are folks from a different community so they know me pretty well. A few others are folks from FOOL 1.0, so they sort of know how I operate and then a few others are guys who have been with the league since the first few seasons over here (Memphis, Rio Grande, Carolina, et. al.) and so...I tend to think everyone is on board unless they speak up.

But you're ALWAYS welcome to speak up, especially new guys who aren't in the cabal because I won't know what you're thinking and I value the participation and want to keep it interesting.

The stats thing last year was the first time in 32 years we've had that problem and it wasn't intentional, so I hope people cut me some slack with that...I'd already started simming so it was too late to just stop and start over again with new modifiers by the time I noticed the problem.

So yeah, don't feel like you need to be shy. I obviously do tend to do things by fiat, because it makes it easier (and historically, people don't seem to care one way or another...and when they do, they speak up and then I know) but I do value the feedback on stuff people are liking/not liking.
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Old 02-19-2013, 11:47 AM   #28
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Old 02-19-2013, 12:22 PM   #29
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Old 02-19-2013, 12:24 PM   #30
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Old 02-19-2013, 12:30 PM   #32
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Jamie Sarno is not a free agent. He shouldn't have been released.
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Old 02-19-2013, 02:37 PM   #33
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What else changed that caused some consternation? I'm just curious, because New York (ex-owner) said something similar.
Off the top of my head, the recent ratings change (thank you for quickly changing it back), the playoff system changing by year who gets in and who doesn't, team finances / cap room, and the feeder league going away (I actually greatly applaud this change, but a heads up would have been nice).

It really does feel like every time I check the forums here something with the league has changed. I know that is hyperbole and not what actually happens, but I've never been in a league that changes so much from day to day.

I can accept some changes with a new league, but by all accounts this league has some history behind it and it seems odd to keep changing things up, especially since they just seem so arbitrary. One person makes a comment and Boom!, the league settings change, another person says something and Bam!, another change. It's difficult to keep up with all the changes and what the actual league rules are. Then again, I'm definitely a lurker and don't check the forums every day.

I don't consider the stats snafu to be anything but an OOTP problem. Definitely not a knock on you.
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Old 02-19-2013, 10:38 PM   #34
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I really need to remember to put up a Restricted Free Agent thread next off-season. I mean, the rule never died. It just seems we all decided we didn't care about protecting anyone.
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Old 02-19-2013, 10:39 PM   #35
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Off the top of my head, the recent ratings change (thank you for quickly changing it back), the playoff system changing by year who gets in and who doesn't, team finances / cap room, and the feeder league going away (I actually greatly applaud this change, but a heads up would have been nice).

It really does feel like every time I check the forums here something with the league has changed. I know that is hyperbole and not what actually happens, but I've never been in a league that changes so much from day to day.

I can accept some changes with a new league, but by all accounts this league has some history behind it and it seems odd to keep changing things up, especially since they just seem so arbitrary. One person makes a comment and Boom!, the league settings change, another person says something and Bam!, another change. It's difficult to keep up with all the changes and what the actual league rules are. Then again, I'm definitely a lurker and don't check the forums every day.

I don't consider the stats snafu to be anything but an OOTP problem. Definitely not a knock on you.

This was useful to me, so I appreciated you breaking it down. I'll keep it in mind as we forward.
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Old 02-19-2013, 11:03 PM   #36
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Old 02-19-2013, 11:05 PM   #37
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Wednesday, November 17th, 1869
Washington Grays: Signed CL Chris Ricardo to a 2-year contract extension worth a total of $1,700,000.
Tuesday, November 16th, 1869
Punxsutawney Phils: Signed free agent 1B Zachery Wickberg to a 2-year contract worth a total of $1,600,000.
Los Angeles Villains: Signed free agent SP Jimmy Hill to a 2-year contract worth a total of $5,700,000.
Winnemucca Lake Monsters: Signed free agent C Tom Grey to a 4-year contract worth a total of $3,400,000.
Memphis Smokers: Signed free agent SP Willie Leon to a 6-year contract worth a total of $96,000,000.
Punxsutawney Phils: Signed free agent SP Johnny Creasman to a 2-year contract worth a total of $800,000.
Punxsutawney Phils: Signed free agent C Carlos Sanchez to a 1-year contract worth a total of $800,000.
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Old 02-19-2013, 11:05 PM   #38
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Wow with Memphis doling out some dollars...going to make a run at it for real, it seems.
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Old 02-19-2013, 11:06 PM   #39
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Tuesday, November 23rd, 1869
Punxsutawney Phils: Signed free agent SS Marv Kennedy to a 4-year contract worth a total of $13,970,000.
Punxsutawney Phils: Signed free agent LF Jimmy Cagle to a 2-year contract worth a total of $2,200,000.
Punxsutawney Phils: Signed free agent SS Ian Rickert to a 2-year contract worth a total of $960,000.
Washington Grays: Signed free agent SS Helespôntico López to a 3-year contract worth a total of $41,400,000.
Gettysburg Gomers: Signed free agent SP Dave Ribic to a 7-year contract worth a total of $132,000,000.
Winnemucca Lake Monsters: Signed free agent MR Ernie Carter to a 3-year contract worth a total of $2,250,000.
Brooklyn Titans: Signed free agent LF A.J. Casey to a 1-year contract worth a total of $800,000.
Grand Rapids Robins: Signed free agent CL Miguel Jimenez to a 6-year contract worth a total of $37,600,000.
Gettysburg Gomers: Signed free agent 1B Cremente Flix to a 2-year contract worth a total of $5,750,000.
Wyoming Plowboys: Signed free agent MR Leandro Gimenez to a 1-year contract worth a total of $800,000.
Punxsutawney Phils: Signed free agent MR Pat Radloff to a 1-year contract worth a total of $440,000.
Punxsutawney Phils: Signed free agent 1B Francisco Cordero to a 2-year contract worth a total of $880,000.
Punxsutawney Phils: Signed free agent SP J.J. Gump to a 1-year contract worth a total of $850,000.
Punxsutawney Phils: Signed free agent CF Alex Gonzalez to a 2-year contract worth a total of $940,000.
Punxsutawney Phils: Signed free agent 1B Liam Friesen to a 2-year contract worth a total of $880,000.
Punxsutawney Phils: Signed free agent LF Pat Coleman to a 2-year contract worth a total of $2,200,000.
Punxsutawney Phils: Signed free agent CF Ted Trexler to a 2-year contract worth a total of $1,400,000.
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Old 02-19-2013, 11:07 PM   #40
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Meanwhile Gomer lands a huge fish in Ribic. Determined to make a run at a 3rd title it seems...and Ponty Lopez making more money than I anticipated he'd be worth at 39
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Old 02-19-2013, 11:10 PM   #41
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File up?
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Old 02-19-2013, 11:10 PM   #42
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File up?

No sir. Not yet. I'll specifically post when it is. I post the transactions in the thread because some people don't end up getting to look at it until after work and so, posting it in here is as close to the game as some can get for a while during the day.
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Old 02-19-2013, 11:13 PM   #43
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I went 2 years on Helespontico Lopez at 15 Mil per and should have gone 3. Damn.

Happy to get Jimenez to fill out the pen.
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Old 02-19-2013, 11:16 PM   #44
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Plus I have relatively slow internet #wyomingproblems.

But the file is processing in-game and then uploading here in a minute
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Old 02-19-2013, 11:37 PM   #45
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File is up. Tomorrow night is FA2.

For the new people, I should've mentioned it earlier..but your winter league team is where you can stash guys you want to see play a bit during this time of years. It runs from December through February.

Not sure how useful winter league has ever proven to be for anyone, but at least it's a chance to get guys some live action at a high level.
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Old 02-19-2013, 11:51 PM   #46
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This might be dumb, but there is a lot of young talent in FA. Is that off-limits?

Also, I have a guy who is 2.5 talent, 1.5 potential. I've never seen that.
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Old 02-19-2013, 11:58 PM   #47
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This might be dumb, but there is a lot of young talent in FA. Is that off-limits?

Also, I have a guy who is 2.5 talent, 1.5 potential. I've never seen that.

Our minor league FA rules (like everything else) is weird. Guys become free agents after 5 years of minor league service if they never get to the majors. We don't want people stockpiling talent that's major league ready, so it's the "shit or get off the pot" clause which occasionally yields some pretty nice guys who would otherwise just be stashed. Seems to work well for us.

For players you've drafted or players you acquire via trade while still young, you get them for six years at minimum salary ($250k) and then two years at arbitration before they become free agents.

If they're in FA, they're not off-limits.

As for the inverse talent guy, it just means he's playing over the head of his ratings. Happens more in this league than most, but that's where stats do come into play. Look at Tony Archuleta from Chicago. A one-star pitcher and yeah last year had messed up stats but...he won 20 games and if you look at his career on the whole, he's a guy who had been a pretty dependable pitcher, just went a few years on a good team where he wasn't getting play, Chicago dusted him off and rode him to a playoff berth.

TL;DR: There are lots of ways to win here without having a team of lots of 5-star potential/actual guys.

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Old 02-20-2013, 06:12 AM   #48
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This is definetely going to be a down year in Las Vegas again. Noone signed with us, and Ribic can go fuck himself.
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Old 02-20-2013, 07:02 AM   #49
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I definitely overpaid for Ribic.
He's been less than mediocre throughout his career.
He may not even make our opening day rotation.

But with a $148 million cap this season, I decided to reel him in to give us some young rotation depth.

I also structured his deal in descending value throughout the contract, so he will become more affordable as he ages.

His final (age 32) season, I bumped him back up to $20 million. But with the DWEEB rule, that year bascially becomes a club option.
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