Werewolf XXXI: House of Frankenstein (Game Over) - Page 37

Barkeep49 · 08-21-2006, 06:28 PM

I really think voting for molson or sndvls is a mistake at this point and encourage people to vote for Grammaticus or Tangle. If molson or sndvls gets killed we've learned far less than Gram or Tangle.

bulletsponge · 08-21-2006, 06:32 PM

ok im back... time to think more

DaddyTorgo · 08-21-2006, 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Barkeep49

I really think voting for molson or sndvls is a mistake at this point and encourage people to vote for Grammaticus or Tangle. If molson or sndvls gets killed we've learned far less than Gram or Tangle.

true. and if we don't seize the opportunity to learn from the "revelation" of tangle, however real or faked, then the wolves will use him to sow confusion.

Swaggs · 08-21-2006, 06:41 PM

I haven't gotten all the way through this thread yet, but I'm going to go with Tanglewood on this. I don't see any reason why, if he were evil, he would reveal. His head was not on the line. The vote was, and is, close, so it wasn't like they were in imminent danger. And, I don't see why he would take a 1-for-1 at this point of the game, with the wolves clearly kicking our ass.

Tanglewood either has gigantic brass balls or he is a seer.

Unvote SnDvls

Vote Grammaticus

bulletsponge · 08-21-2006, 06:45 PM

ok first observation.. why in the world would Tangle do a fake role reveal, it would condem him. if he was the Dr he could get himself killed easily, plus getting killed would hurt the wolves, because they would loose an ally in voting. yes i know he counts as a villager, but ffs, he could do more harm alive then a one hit and hes dead. and i dont put it pass Cronin to put in a hidden role that a person couldnt reveal without the pains of a werewolf schmorgasborg.

but.. if he is the Dr, this would be a great way to get the votes of Molson or Sndvls, or Gramm. Hell if he comes back as the evil Dr then id be willing to bet the Grammaticus is a Wolf, because the Dr is trying togive him cover thru reverse psycology (sp).

anyway, right as of now i am keeping my vote on swaggs. last time i changed it i voted for Blade and it didnt work out to well. but i will stay posted and could change my mind.

this could very well be the most important vote we have in the game, a wrong vote could lead us in the wrong direction for next nights vote also.

bulletsponge · 08-21-2006, 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Swaggs

I haven't gotten all the way through this thread yet, but I'm going to go with Tanglewood on this. I don't see any reason why, if he were evil, he would reveal. His head was not on the line. The vote was, and is, close, so it wasn't like they were in imminent danger. And, I don't see why he would take a 1-for-1 at this point of the game, with the wolves clearly kicking our ass.

Tanglewood either has gigantic brass balls or he is a seer.

Unvote SnDvls

Vote Grammaticus

you stated the case for him being a seer better than i just did

bulletsponge · 08-21-2006, 06:47 PM

dola,

im seriously considering changing my vote to gramm

DaddyTorgo · 08-21-2006, 06:50 PM

torn between tanglewood and gram.

Swaggs · 08-21-2006, 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by bulletsponge

dola,

im seriously considering changing my vote to gramm

I would encourage you, and everyone else, to line up on one side of the ball... either Gramm or tangle. Either tangle is lying and is evil OR tangle is telling the truth and Gramm is evil.

I think that, if we can get everyone to vote for one or the other, after tonight's lynch, those votes could give us a big clue.

DaddyTorgo · 08-21-2006, 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Swaggs

I would encourage you, and everyone else, to line up on one side of the ball... either Gramm or tangle. Either tangle is lying and is evil OR tangle is telling the truth and Gramm is evil.

I think that, if we can get everyone to vote for one or the other, after tonight's lynch, those votes could give us a big clue.

what's the current vote-count between the two of them?

bulletsponge · 08-21-2006, 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

torn between tanglewood and gram.

yea i know. ive only played 2 games, but ive never seen a "fake role reveal" when someones own head isnt even near the choping block. and if he is a seer then he might consider it a coup to sacrifice himself to get a lynch vote off a mason and onto a wolf the next night

DaddyTorgo · 08-21-2006, 06:53 PM

gram - 3
tanglewood, sundvls, molson - 2

bulletsponge · 08-21-2006, 06:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Swaggs

I would encourage you, and everyone else, to line up on one side of the ball... either Gramm or tangle. Either tangle is lying and is evil OR tangle is telling the truth and Gramm is evil.

I think that, if we can get everyone to vote for one or the other, after tonight's lynch, those votes could give us a big clue.

dude dont put me on the spot like that. i think you might be right though, but dammit, i dont know which one is telling the truth

Alan T · 08-21-2006, 06:56 PM

Little over 30 min left, here is the vote count:

3 - Grammaticus - molson, tanglewood, Swaggs
2 - SnDvls - ChiefRum, SnDvls
2 - molson - Grammaticus, Dodgerchick
2 - Tanglewood - Barkeep, Daddytorgo
1 - Swaggs - bulletsponge

DaddyTorgo · 08-21-2006, 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by bulletsponge

dude dont put me on the spot like that. i think you might be right though, but dammit, i dont know which one is telling the truth

you just gotta go with the majority bullet...that way the evil can't sway it back into a tie and ruin it. if we're wrong then we've gained the info to correct the wrongdoing the next night, no matter which way we were wrong.

Swaggs · 08-21-2006, 06:58 PM

Dear Werewolves,

If we screw around again today and keep the vote close as the deadline approaches, allowing a last-minute vote change to sway things, please kill me tonight.

Thanks,
Swaggs

DaddyTorgo · 08-21-2006, 06:59 PM

in fact bullet, if you and i go with gram i think that might be enough to lock it. although i havn't done the math or seen who hasn't voted yet. but that'd be 5-2 he'd be in the lead.

bulletsponge · 08-21-2006, 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

you just gotta go with the majority bullet...that way the evil can't sway it back into a tie and ruin it. if we're wrong then we've gained the info to correct the wrongdoing the next night, no matter which way we were wrong.

your right, please forgive me if im wrong gramm

Unvote Swaggs

Vote Grammaticus

DaddyTorgo · 08-21-2006, 07:01 PM

forgive me too gram if i'm wrong. thanks tangle if i'm not...and if we're wrong, tangle has to be next.

UNVOTE TANGLEWOOD

VOTE GRAMMATICUS

Swaggs · 08-21-2006, 07:04 PM

The other thing that makes me feel that Tanglewood is not Reimann is that it seems like Reimann's main objective is probably just to survive.

tanglewood · 08-21-2006, 07:05 PM

Well finally seems commonsense is prevaling.

Softens the blow of my loss against the Giants in Tecmo. Freaking super-defense intercepting everything and forcing fumbles. Just can't beat the bastards in the playoffs.

bulletsponge · 08-21-2006, 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Swaggs

The other thing that makes me feel that Tanglewood is not Reimann is that it seems like Reimann's main objective is probably just to survive.

a move like this would for shizzle get him killed tonight or tomorow

bulletsponge · 08-21-2006, 07:08 PM

who hasnt voted yet? i know someone hasnt voted!

DaddyTorgo · 08-21-2006, 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by bulletsponge

who hasnt voted yet? i know someone hasnt voted!

nope. by my count that's all 10 of us...

DaddyTorgo · 08-21-2006, 07:10 PM

5 - Grammaticus - molson, tanglewood, Swaggs, bulletsponge, DaddyTorgo
2 - SnDvls - ChiefRum, SnDvls
2 - molson - Grammaticus, Dodgerchick
1 - Tanglewood - Barkeep

DaddyTorgo · 08-21-2006, 07:13 PM

OMG...it's the ghost of Fouts!

Grammaticus · 08-21-2006, 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by bulletsponge

yea i know. ive only played 2 games, but ive never seen a "fake role reveal" when someones own head isnt even near the choping block. and if he is a seer then he might consider it a coup to sacrifice himself to get a lynch vote off a mason and onto a wolf the next night

I have and it was referenced in this game. Dubb did it in the return to the forest game and won the game for the evil side. Same situation, same roles. Dubb was the turncoat and revealed as seer. Boom we lynched his man and it was a good guy, then we lynched Dubb who was also good guy headcount but wins with evil. this is that all over again. Tangle was in that game and learned the trick.

tanglewood · 08-21-2006, 07:14 PM

Well, 5 votes for Gramm, that definitley makes me feel more at ease. Hopefully we get a wolf here, then we've got a chance. I full expect to be killed tonight, so I guess I'll have to wish you all good luck.

tanglewood · 08-21-2006, 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Grammaticus

I have and it was referenced in this game. Dubb did it in the return to the forest game and won the game for the evil side. Same situation, same roles. Dubb was the turncoat and revealed as seer. Boom we lynched his man and it was a good guy, then we lynched Dubb who was also good guy headcount but wins with evil. this is that all over again. Tangle was in that game and learned the trick.

Actually, I don't think I was in that game. Which number was it?

bulletsponge · 08-21-2006, 07:17 PM

whos doing the write up for tonights action?

Alan T · 08-21-2006, 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by bulletsponge

whos doing the write up for tonights action?

I am

tanglewood · 08-21-2006, 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by tanglewood

Actually, I don't think I was in that game. Which number was it?

Okay looked it up, it was XVIII and I definitley wasn't in that game. Thought I may have been suffering from amnesia for a moment there...

tanglewood · 08-21-2006, 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Alan T

I am

Should I send a night action to you or to Cronin?

tanglewood · 08-21-2006, 07:21 PM

Err, actually don't answer that question. Sorry, wasn't thinking.

DaddyTorgo · 08-21-2006, 07:23 PM

FREUDIAN SLIP ALERT!!!

tanglewood · 08-21-2006, 07:24 PM

Well not really. I am the seer so I do have a night action.

Just didn't want him to answer the question because then it confirms if I have a role or not, which is against the rules for him to do.

DaddyTorgo · 08-21-2006, 07:24 PM

then again a seer would have night actions too...right?

bulletsponge · 08-21-2006, 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

FREUDIAN SLIP ALERT!!!

hmmmm

well all the roles we suspect him of have night actions

DaddyTorgo · 08-21-2006, 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by bulletsponge

hmmmm

well all the roles we suspect him of have night actions

yeah...i realized that after posting. with 6 minutes or whatever to deadline i was in "post in panic first and then think" mode

bulletsponge · 08-21-2006, 07:26 PM

im considering changing my vote, that slip is fishy

DaddyTorgo · 08-21-2006, 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by bulletsponge

im considering changing my vote, that slip is fishy

it'd be too late to get the movement off him anyways. best just take it as evidence if gram ends up being innocent

Grammaticus · 08-21-2006, 07:28 PM

I've given you all you need to know. When I die, the villagers will be behind by another headcount and we will lose one tonight.

I've laid off pointing to Barkeep out of hope he would try to vote with us and attempt to seem validated by voting for a wolf. Not happening.

***NOTE***
Do not trust Barkeep, he is lying scum. He steered you away from Molson for a reason. He is most likely a wolf too. No wolves would leave him in this game at this point.

After today, if you can stay alive:

I would go

Molson
Barkeep
Tanglewood
DaddyTorgo
Swaggs

Problem is, you won't have any time to miss.

I've already told you to take a look at the day two vote. If that does not give you what you need, nothing will. You are not using the tie breaker knowledge!

Grammaticus · 08-21-2006, 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by tanglewood

Err, actually don't answer that question. Sorry, wasn't thinking.

OMG, he even screwed up and you guys are buying it still???

DaddyTorgo · 08-21-2006, 07:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grammaticus

I've given you all you need to know. When I die, the villagers will be behind by another headcount and we will lose one tonight.

I've laid off pointing to Barkeep out of hope he would try to vote with us and attempt to seem validated by voting for a wolf. Not happening.

***NOTE***
Do not trust Barkeep, he is lying scum. He steered you away from Molson for a reason. He is most likely a wolf too. No wolves would leave him in this game at this point.

After today, if you can stay alive:

I would go

Molson
Barkeep
Tanglewood
DaddyTorgo
Swaggs

Problem is, you won't have any time to miss.

I've already told you to take a look at the day two vote. If that does not give you what you need, nothing will. You are not using the tie breaker knowledge!

you have a point with barkeep there gram. if you end up dying as a villager I think we will certainly look much closer at molson and him.

Alan T · 08-21-2006, 07:30 PM

time check

Grammaticus · 08-21-2006, 07:30 PM

Good job Tangle

I cannot believe you pulled it off. That was very good play. I cannot believe Barkeep would ever believe it, so I know he is rotten scum. That is why you said he was good.

DaddyTorgo · 08-21-2006, 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Grammaticus

OMG, he even screwed up and you guys are buying it still???

well no, now we're thinking about it, but it was too late to act on it tonight unfortunately.

Alan T · 08-21-2006, 07:30 PM

Voting closed, write up coming soon

Lorena · 08-21-2006, 07:31 PM

wow, tanglewood screwed up BIG TIME!!

Grammaticus · 08-21-2006, 07:31 PM

Good Luck Villagers, now I will be able to get some freakin work done at the office tomorrow.

08-21-2006, 06:41 PM	#1804
Swaggs Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	I haven't gotten all the way through this thread yet, but I'm going to go with Tanglewood on this. I don't see any reason why, if he were evil, he would reveal. His head was not on the line. The vote was, and is, close, so it wasn't like they were in imminent danger. And, I don't see why he would take a 1-for-1 at this point of the game, with the wolves clearly kicking our ass. Tanglewood either has gigantic brass balls or he is a seer. Unvote SnDvls Vote Grammaticus __________________ DOWN WITH HATTRICK!!! The RWBL Are you reading In The Bleachers?

08-21-2006, 06:58 PM	#1816
Swaggs Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	Dear Werewolves, If we screw around again today and keep the vote close as the deadline approaches, allowing a last-minute vote change to sway things, please kill me tonight. Thanks, Swaggs __________________ DOWN WITH HATTRICK!!! The RWBL Are you reading In The Bleachers?

08-21-2006, 07:04 PM	#1820
Swaggs Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	The other thing that makes me feel that Tanglewood is not Reimann is that it seems like Reimann's main objective is probably just to survive. __________________ DOWN WITH HATTRICK!!! The RWBL Are you reading In The Bleachers?

08-21-2006, 06:28 PM	#1801
Barkeep49 Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Not too far away	I really think voting for molson or sndvls is a mistake at this point and encourage people to vote for Grammaticus or Tangle. If molson or sndvls gets killed we've learned far less than Gram or Tangle.

08-21-2006, 06:32 PM	#1802
bulletsponge Pro Starter Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: TX	ok im back... time to think more

08-21-2006, 06:45 PM	#1805
bulletsponge Pro Starter Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: TX	ok first observation.. why in the world would Tangle do a fake role reveal, it would condem him. if he was the Dr he could get himself killed easily, plus getting killed would hurt the wolves, because they would loose an ally in voting. yes i know he counts as a villager, but ffs, he could do more harm alive then a one hit and hes dead. and i dont put it pass Cronin to put in a hidden role that a person couldnt reveal without the pains of a werewolf schmorgasborg. but.. if he is the Dr, this would be a great way to get the votes of Molson or Sndvls, or Gramm. Hell if he comes back as the evil Dr then id be willing to bet the Grammaticus is a Wolf, because the Dr is trying togive him cover thru reverse psycology (sp). anyway, right as of now i am keeping my vote on swaggs. last time i changed it i voted for Blade and it didnt work out to well. but i will stay posted and could change my mind. this could very well be the most important vote we have in the game, a wrong vote could lead us in the wrong direction for next nights vote also.

08-21-2006, 06:47 PM	#1807
bulletsponge Pro Starter Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: TX	dola, im seriously considering changing my vote to gramm

08-21-2006, 06:50 PM	#1808
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	torn between tanglewood and gram.

08-21-2006, 06:53 PM	#1812
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	gram - 3 tanglewood, sundvls, molson - 2

08-21-2006, 06:56 PM	#1814
Alan T Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Mass.	Little over 30 min left, here is the vote count: 3 - Grammaticus - molson, tanglewood, Swaggs 2 - SnDvls - ChiefRum, SnDvls 2 - molson - Grammaticus, Dodgerchick 2 - Tanglewood - Barkeep, Daddytorgo 1 - Swaggs - bulletsponge

08-21-2006, 06:59 PM	#1817
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	in fact bullet, if you and i go with gram i think that might be enough to lock it. although i havn't done the math or seen who hasn't voted yet. but that'd be 5-2 he'd be in the lead.

08-21-2006, 07:01 PM	#1819
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	forgive me too gram if i'm wrong. thanks tangle if i'm not...and if we're wrong, tangle has to be next. UNVOTE TANGLEWOOD VOTE GRAMMATICUS

08-21-2006, 07:05 PM	#1821
tanglewood College Benchwarmer Join Date: Oct 2004	Well finally seems commonsense is prevaling. Softens the blow of my loss against the Giants in Tecmo. Freaking super-defense intercepting everything and forcing fumbles. Just can't beat the bastards in the playoffs.

08-21-2006, 07:08 PM	#1823
bulletsponge Pro Starter Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: TX	who hasnt voted yet? i know someone hasnt voted!

08-21-2006, 07:10 PM	#1825
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	5 - Grammaticus - molson, tanglewood, Swaggs, bulletsponge, DaddyTorgo 2 - SnDvls - ChiefRum, SnDvls 2 - molson - Grammaticus, Dodgerchick 1 - Tanglewood - Barkeep

08-21-2006, 07:13 PM	#1826
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	OMG...it's the ghost of Fouts!

08-21-2006, 07:14 PM	#1828
tanglewood College Benchwarmer Join Date: Oct 2004	Well, 5 votes for Gramm, that definitley makes me feel more at ease. Hopefully we get a wolf here, then we've got a chance. I full expect to be killed tonight, so I guess I'll have to wish you all good luck.

08-21-2006, 07:17 PM	#1830
bulletsponge Pro Starter Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: TX	whos doing the write up for tonights action?

08-21-2006, 07:21 PM	#1834
tanglewood College Benchwarmer Join Date: Oct 2004	Err, actually don't answer that question. Sorry, wasn't thinking.

08-21-2006, 07:23 PM	#1835
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	FREUDIAN SLIP ALERT!!!

08-21-2006, 07:24 PM	#1836
tanglewood College Benchwarmer Join Date: Oct 2004	Well not really. I am the seer so I do have a night action. Just didn't want him to answer the question because then it confirms if I have a role or not, which is against the rules for him to do.

08-21-2006, 07:24 PM	#1837
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	then again a seer would have night actions too...right?

08-21-2006, 07:26 PM	#1840
bulletsponge Pro Starter Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: TX	im considering changing my vote, that slip is fishy

08-21-2006, 07:28 PM	#1842
Grammaticus Pro Rookie Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Tennessee	I've given you all you need to know. When I die, the villagers will be behind by another headcount and we will lose one tonight. I've laid off pointing to Barkeep out of hope he would try to vote with us and attempt to seem validated by voting for a wolf. Not happening. *NOTE* Do not trust Barkeep, he is lying scum. He steered you away from Molson for a reason. He is most likely a wolf too. No wolves would leave him in this game at this point. After today, if you can stay alive: I would go Molson Barkeep Tanglewood DaddyTorgo Swaggs Problem is, you won't have any time to miss. I've already told you to take a look at the day two vote. If that does not give you what you need, nothing will. You are not using the tie breaker knowledge!

08-21-2006, 07:30 PM	#1845
Alan T Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Mass.	time check

08-21-2006, 07:30 PM	#1846
Grammaticus Pro Rookie Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Tennessee	Good job Tangle I cannot believe you pulled it off. That was very good play. I cannot believe Barkeep would ever believe it, so I know he is rotten scum. That is why you said he was good.

08-21-2006, 07:30 PM	#1848
Alan T Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Mass.	Voting closed, write up coming soon

08-21-2006, 07:31 PM	#1849
Lorena Unregistered Join Date: May 2004	wow, tanglewood screwed up BIG TIME!!

08-21-2006, 07:31 PM	#1850
Grammaticus Pro Rookie Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Tennessee	Good Luck Villagers, now I will be able to get some freakin work done at the office tomorrow.

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