WW CLVI - Clue: Master Detective - GAME OVER! MURDERERS WIN! (Post 1817)

[Chubby]

unvote autumn
Vote britrock

sounds likes to me brit is simply a big 6er. Whether my vote stays on him hinges on his answer to one question: which big 6 are you?

[Danny]

Originally Posted by Autumn

You are either: Miss Scarlett, and now a Murderer, and lying to us (but not lying yesterday about being a seer);

or

You are another Big 6, not lying about a seer, and innocent

or

You are another Big 6, a starting Murderer, and not lying about being a seer

or

You are another Big 6, a starting Murderer and lying about being a seer

or

You are an Informer/Extra Role, a starting Murderer, and lying about being a seer and a Big 6

or

You are an Informer/eXtra Role, a starting Murderer, lying about being a Big 6 but not lying about being a seer.

Lots of possibilities!

Or you are not an informer / extra role, not a starting murderer, not a seer, not a big 6 and instead a neutral role who is trying to save the chance you have at accomplishing your win condition!

[PackerFanatic]

Originally Posted by Autumn

Well, what I mean is when he dies we'll know exactly when he was converted, so we'll know which scans to trust. So as long as we don't put much weight in them now, why not let him scan?

Or now you just gave the wolves the ammunition they needed to off him

[Zinto]

I am not going to vote for Lathum or Brit today. I will give Brit time and let that work itself out in the next couple of days. Lathum had no reason to reveal except that he cannot be converted. I know that he could have started a murderer but I am not sure if he would reveal if that was the case.

[Coffee Warlord]

2 - Britrock
2 - Chubby
1 - Autumn
1 - Bulletsponge
1 - Font
1 - Lathum

[bulletsponge]

Originally Posted by Danny

Good analysis Autumn, when he dies then we will know his character and allegiance

lol. hell lets all follow this.

[Lathum]

vote Britrock

[Lathum]

Originally Posted by ntndeacon

This is a vote against voting or thinkingabout voting for a possible seer on day 2.

so we actually have someone who did vote Brit, yet you vote me for considering it?

[Autumn]

Originally Posted by PackerFanatic

Or now you just gave the wolves the ammunition they needed to off him

I'm fine with that. Half hte crowd wants to lynch him anyway. If they want to spend their night kill removing a possible convert, then hey they're helping us out. Our whole plan was to get rid of the Big 6. So either they give us a seer, or remove a convert. Thanks guys!

[JAG]

Just to let you all know, I'm trying to catch up, but this isn't going to be my best day. I've been exhausted since the morning and I have to pick up the kids early today due to the snow (leaving shortly). I don't really see myself voting for Brit today though. I was skeptical about the way the reveal went down last night and figured he could be a starting murderer with a juicy power the murderers didn't want to lose, but to come out today and claim to be a Big 6 member and dish out the info he has doesn't seem like a guy trying to survive no matter what when there has been a lot of discussion about trying to get rid of the Big 6 members.

[PackerFanatic]

Has brit said which Big6 member he is? I don't recall seeing it if so...

[Chubby]

Originally Posted by PackerFanatic

Has brit said which Big6 member he is? I don't recall seeing it if so...

not that I saw and that is what I am waiting for personally

[britrock88]

You guys wanna know? Fine. But you'll have to think straight for a minute and not lynch somebody who's more valuable dead to the wolves than he is alive.

[britrock88]

Well, I'll go ahead and semi-reveal now and hope that you've been paying attention. Someone guessed correctly which Big Sixer would be the seer earlier in the thread.

[britrock88]

The only reason I'm reticent is that it would put me in a tricky situation vis a vis my informant.

[Chubby]

not helping your case

[britrock88]

Really? Explain.

[ntndeacon]

Originally Posted by Lathum

so we actually have someone who did vote Brit, yet you vote me for considering it?

right, yours happened first I believe... so to me the more sketchy.

[Chubby]

Originally Posted by britrock88

Really? Explain.

you didn't answer the question. if there's nothing to hide why not come out with it?

you don't have an issue stating you are a "seer" but won't say which character you are? The ability is far more important IMO and you have already said that.

unless of course you are hiding something and that's why you don't want to name your character...

[Coffee Warlord]

4 - Britrock
2 - Chubby
1 - Autumn
1 - Bulletsponge
1 - Font
1 - Lathum

[britrock88]

Ready to state the name if anyone other than Chubby asks for it.

[Zinto]

Originally Posted by bulletsponge

heres my suspicions on the roles

the cop- hes a BG
the cook- can poison 1 person as a nigght action
Prof plum- seer
Scarlett- seer
Green- BG
Col Mustard- Duke
the Maid- seer

just an idea of some

Is it in this post Brit?

[path12]

Originally Posted by Autumn

That could be interesting, if the informers know the ID of their big six. Would be good to find out from an informer soon.

I doubt you'd see that until their Big Six counterpart was dead.

[britrock88]

Sure is. Post 668 for more details.

[Zinto]

I do not see the advantage of lynching Brit today. If everyone wants to lynch a member of the big six then let it be Font over Brit. If we get lucky we could conceivably get another scan in.

[britrock88]

(urges you all to vote Chubby)

[Chubby]

so you're Scarlett?

[Autumn]

Originally Posted by Zinto

I do not see the advantage of lynching Brit today. If everyone wants to lynch a member of the big six then let it be Font over Brit. If we get lucky we could conceivably get another scan in.

Well, the question is about whether he truly is in the Big 6 or not. Could have just faked that, thinking we'd be inclined to keep him around, or to avoid getting attacked by a real Big 6er.

[Zinto]

Originally Posted by Chubby

so you're Scarlett?

Scarlett or Plum I would guess?

[KatyLied]

VOTE AUTUMN

Because...I'm behind on today's posts and I'm going with my gut for now. It's a placeholder at best.

[Chubby]

Originally Posted by Zinto

Scarlett or Plum I would guess?

and aren't we leaning on Scarlett being a murderer after last night?

[Autumn]

Originally Posted by britrock88

Sure is. Post 668 for more details.

Why the coy act? If yo'ure going to tell us, which you already have, just tell us. Are you afraid there's a soothsayer in the game?

[Chubby]

Originally Posted by Autumn

Why the coy act? If yo'ure going to tell us, which you already have, just tell us. Are you afraid there's a soothsayer in the game?

yeah wtf, does he think he's me?

[Autumn]

Seems like it ;-)

[hoopsguy]

Originally Posted by hoopsguy

So if you could steal a role's actions, would you go with Professor Plum with the assumption that is the seer? I could definitely get behind that logic ...

However, if he took a fall while impersonating someone - as CW's pre-writeup post of "this is gonna take awhile" (p505) suggests then that would suggest someone targeted Professor Plum, or one of our Big 6.

Boddy, who holds the weapons per role descriptions?
Any other theories make a lot of sense that might help explain the killing? I can't see murderers wanting to attack players who could later be joining their side.

Here is post #668, just to save some folks looking at previous pages.

[bulletsponge]

brit you were less suspicious last game when you kept your mouth shut. this is why i will never ever reveal. if the villagers hang me then screw them, no matter how important my role. if i ever do a role reveal, you can bet im lying

[hoopsguy]

Originally Posted by bulletsponge

brit you were less suspicious last game when you kept your mouth shut. this is why i will never ever reveal. if the villagers hang me then screw them, no matter how important my role. if i ever do a role reveal, you can bet im lying

Regardless of side, this is pretty damn funny.
100% contrary to how I play, but still made me laugh when reading it.

[Lathum]

Originally Posted by ntndeacon

right, yours happened first I believe... so to me the more sketchy.

nope,Hoops did.

[fontisian]

Hey brit, mind saying "I am Professor Plum" for the sake of a soothslayer?

I think lynching brit today would be a mistake. Let's let him get some scans in, keeping in mind that he could have been a murderer from the start.

Anyway, I thought my motivation for revealing should be fairly obvious. The odds of me hitting my informant on one go without any scanning ability are so low that I might as well consider myself a permanent town player and do whatever I can to ensure a town victory.

Originally Posted by bulletsponge

brit you were less suspicious last game when you kept your mouth shut. this is why i will never ever reveal. if the villagers hang me then screw them, no matter how important my role. if i ever do a role reveal, you can bet im lying

But then your lynch is your own fault.

[hoopsguy]

OK, so didn't get much traction on this post earlier. Hoping people will either verify info I'm listing or add info that I'm missing.

Big 6: Lathum = Peacock, britrock (suggesting Plum in post 724) and Fontsian also have B6 roles
Informants: dead Cop, dead Cook
Other Extras: dead Brunette

ntn = not starting murderer, per brit (N1)
not N1 murderers = KatyLied, bhlloy, mauchow, DT, Saldana, Danny (not at house yet)

Other Extras = KatyLied, hoopsguy, bhlloy, mauchow, DT, Autumn, Saldana, Danny

path12 revealed "not informant"
NTN revealed "not Scarlett"
Chubby revealed "not Big 6"

[Chubby]

so brit can't claim plum...

[Chubby]

ohhhh font is suggesting brit is Plum?

[fontisian]

Originally Posted by Chubby

ohhhh font is suggesting brit is Plum?

Dude, I have no idea. I just don't like the way brit revealed.

[Chubby]

Originally Posted by fontisian

Dude, I have no idea. I just don't like the way brit revealed.

yeah, you're not the only one

[mauchow]

Originally Posted by bulletsponge

brit you were less suspicious last game when you kept your mouth shut. this is why i will never ever reveal. if the villagers hang me then screw them, no matter how important my role. if i ever do a role reveal, you can bet im lying

I wouldn't say that you play enough games you'll know you gotta reveal truthfully sometimes.

[Zinto]

Brit would have to be revealing as Plum if he is revealing off that post. He is clearly not revealing as Scarlett and if he is then he is trying to say that he did not kill CR yesterday.

[mauchow]

Oh jeez I'm a page behind.

[Zinto]

Originally Posted by bulletsponge

brit you were less suspicious last game when you kept your mouth shut. this is why i will never ever reveal. if the villagers hang me then screw them, no matter how important my role. if i ever do a role reveal, you can bet im lying

Well, usually if you reveal/fake reveal as a seer you don't have this much backlash to the reveal. Those are the breaks sometimes.

[hoopsguy]

Originally Posted by Zinto

Brit would have to be revealing as Plum if he is revealing off that post. He is clearly not revealing as Scarlett and if he is then he is trying to say that he did not kill CR yesterday.

He has also said, going from memory, that he is not Scarlett earlier in the thread.

As the day goes on, I think it is becoming less and less likely that someone is going to cop to that role.

[Zinto]

I don't blame someone for not coming out as Scarlett because more than likely we would lynch them no matter what they said to try and convince us otherwise.