Werewolf IX: Village of the Damned - Page 14

Raiders Army · 08-10-2005, 06:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hoopsguy

If I were a wolf, I would be the biggest idiot in the world to stand alone behind Digamma as a wolf at this point.

X-Com was a different animal. We were one day from winning the game when Fouts switched sides. We were all outed in one fell swoop. I had to take a position and defend it or else our side was losing the game.

Here, I'm defending Peregrine because I believe he is falsely accused. I don't think Peregrine is a dumb werewolf player, but he would have acted in a way I don't consider logical if he does turn out to be a wolf.

Damn you Fouts! And also, I know you mean digamma.

hoopsguy · 08-10-2005, 06:56 PM

Quote:

I'm going to play CoH soon with my TANK. Heh heh.

That's cold, man

Schmidty · 08-10-2005, 06:56 PM

Vote Digamma

Raiders Army · 08-10-2005, 06:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hoopsguy

That's cold, man

My LEVEL 50 TANK I mean.

Mr. Wednesday · 08-10-2005, 06:57 PM

Unless I'm seriously missing something, based on Peregrine's comments, I can't see any way that they're both telling the truth. My vote is academic at this point, but I'm going to cast it anyway.

Vote Digamma

Mr. Wednesday · 08-10-2005, 06:57 PM

Er, that's based on Peregrine's rules clarification.

jeff061 · 08-10-2005, 06:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fouts

Long live the King!

It's nice up here in heaven......

That's right, villagers burn in hell when they die!!!

Peregrine · 08-10-2005, 07:02 PM

The day was dominated by BrianD's accusation of digamma, though there were questions, most people seemed to agree with him, and the voting trend became obvious very soon.

Final voting

Digamma - BrianD, ardent, MrBug708, eaglesfan27, fouts, henry296, Coffee Warlord, RealDeal, Vince, SnDvls, Raiders Army, kingfc22, Schmidty, Mr. Wednesday

BrianD - digamma, hoopsguy

Digamma struggled against the group but in the end he was lynched, sprouting fur and fangs! Digamma was a werewolf!

Night 3

Lathum - Lynched Day 2 - villager
kingfc22
sundvls
blade6119
Coffee Warlord
Henry296
BrianD
digamma - Lynched Day 3 (werewolf)
eaglesfan27
hoopsguy
fouts
schmidty
dubb93 - killed Night 2 - villager
vince
Qwikshot - Lynched Day 1 - Sorceror
RealDeal
Jeff061 - Killed Night 1 - Sorceror
Raiders Army
Mr. Wednesday
MrBug708
Superman=#54
ardent enthusiast

Night actions due in by around midnight (flexible.) Fouts will die if he is not healed before the end of the night.

hoopsguy · 08-10-2005, 07:04 PM

My heartfelt apologies for taking up a bunch of our time defending Digamma. I still don't understand his play at all - they did not accumulate silver with him holding onto the Cloak. They lost out on two days of trying to get a better item. Baffling.

Fouts · 08-10-2005, 07:05 PM

Somebody save me, please. I promise to be good and not finger anyone for the rest of the game.

And, good job Brian.

Mr. Wednesday · 08-10-2005, 07:05 PM

The only thing I don't get, out of all of this, is why Digamma didn't try to make a claim of having the mask. Did he know that it wouldn't work, due to other people's knowledge of whichever item it was that was in his possession on Days 1 and 3?

Raiders Army · 08-10-2005, 07:06 PM

Well, that pretty much assures us that BrianD is on the level. Great job guys. Two sorcerors and one werewolf down! We rock!

kingfc22 · 08-10-2005, 07:06 PM

This could be the most dominant WW game yet.

henry296 · 08-10-2005, 07:06 PM

Thanks Brian... Good job.

hoopsguy · 08-10-2005, 07:10 PM

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Mr. Wednesday - Post #661
why Digamma didn't try to make a claim of having the mask

I asked him about this point blank in the PMs today. He said that Henry knew he had the Cloak on Day 1 and I obviously knew he had the Cloak on Day 3 (today). Still, that would not have precluded someone from passing him a mask. The fact that he didn't use this as a defense was definitely part of my logic in defending him.

Fouts · 08-10-2005, 07:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hoopsguy

My heartfelt apologies for taking up a bunch of our time defending Digamma. I still don't understand his play at all - they did not accumulate silver with him holding onto the Cloak. They lost out on two days of trying to get a better item. Baffling.

Here's my thoughts on that. He didn't have the cloak anymore and was collecting silver pieces. You claim he talked to you in PM's, but without a cloak how can he do that? Unless you are one of his wolf buddies!

hoopsguy · 08-10-2005, 07:12 PM

I'll post the general content of my conversations (not in their entirety so as not to incur the wrath of our moderator) with him today - there were not many. Look for posts to follow on this ...

Peregrine · 08-10-2005, 07:15 PM

Damn, I always forget something. 1 silver piece was found on digamma's body, and was distributed to a random player (basically whoever looted his pockets first after the lynch.)

Raiders Army · 08-10-2005, 07:15 PM

Dat was me!

Raiders Army · 08-10-2005, 07:15 PM

First come, first serve!

henry296 · 08-10-2005, 07:17 PM

Does everyone start with 1 silver?

Raiders Army · 08-10-2005, 07:17 PM

I think we started with no silver.

Raiders Army · 08-10-2005, 07:18 PM

Is it 5 silver pieces for a gold piece? I'd really like that +2 wolfslaying sword.

BrianD · 08-10-2005, 07:21 PM

It is possible Digamma knew he was busted and knew that claiming the mask wouldn't work. It is a tough position when you know you don't have a defense.

henry296 · 08-10-2005, 07:22 PM

How did digamma end up with a silver piece?

hoopsguy · 08-10-2005, 07:25 PM

Using the timestamps on the messages as a reference:

Yesterday, 5:54AM from Peregrine.
"Digamma has communicated with you using the Cloak of Whispers!" I was also instructed to include Peregrine with a CC on all messages.

Yesterday, 10:12AM from me to Dig
1.) I'm a villager
2.) I'm going to be out a good chunk of day today, so won't be able to talk a ton until later in afternoon
3.) Talked about Fouts eating the dart last night and impact on voting today - don't vote for him, wasted vote, etc
4.) Cleaned out mailbox to make sure we could exchange messages

Yesterday 2:47 PM from Dig to me
Digamma picked me, thought I had good thoughts.
Digamma is a villager.
Had PMs with Henry on first day, thought they were 'pretty much useless'
Focus on Fouts/Lathum interplay, looking for someone to trip up in conversation, maybe RealDeal?

Yesterday 3:57 PM From me to Dig
Dig, if you helped Henry break tie then the conversations weren't useless at all.
Going to read early posts, see if there is anything to read during short break at work.

Yesterday 3:58 PM From Dig to Me
Give Henry credit, Dig and Henry surmised things 'weren't quite up to snuff but I told him I didn't have balls to change my vote'. Said that Henry stated, 'Screw it, I'm changing it'

Yesterday 4:18 PM From Dig to Me
Can't figure out Ardent - why does he want to destroy all objects? Mask made sense, but why everything he touches?

Yesterday 5:44 PM From Me to Dig
Guy who gave AE the mask now dead. Don't have much insight on AEs play up to this point - if the mask isn't blown up tonight I will want AE to out the guy with Hammer, since villagers should want mask gone. Not sure I would believe AE in this case (really don't have a good feel one way or other on him) but would post for him to out the Hammer if Mask survives.
Not much new on site - little posting (Note - he had not yet been accused)
Dig, will catch up with you later tonight after lynching - likely won't have time for good analysis while at this client site

Yesterday 5:54 PM From Dig to Me
'Well, something has happened. I'm going to be fighting for my life all day.'

Will split into two posts - lot to read here.

hoopsguy · 08-10-2005, 07:32 PM

PMs with the wolf - continued

Yesterday, 5:57 PM From Me to Dig
Are you going to use the Mask defense? If so, I wish you had mentioned it to me earlier in day. If not, then you can put heat on Brian as part of the one-for-one tradeoff discussed yesterday with Lathum/Fouts.
Of course, if you are a wolf and take that stance then you are a dead man tomorrow.

Yesterday, 5:59PM From Dig to Me
"I can't take the mask defense because Henry also knows I had the cloak. I can't trust without PM'ing him that he would go along with the statement'.
Best hope is suggesting Brian was falsely accusing randomly.

Yesterday, 6:02PM From Me to Dig
'It could have been passed to you and then you were viewed. I tried to be direct about this in my hit-and-run post on the board. Catch up with you in a couple of hours.'

I didn't hear from him again in the last six hours. I didn't PM him again because we were both posting on boards and I didn't have anything new for him. Perhaps I should have tried to keep talking with him down the stretch, but I was tied up with work and on the road for the majority of the last four hours.

I understand I've drawn a target on myself here. I also know that the two remaining wolves did not attempt to save him when the vote was so one-sided in order to disguise their voting patterns because this one was never in doubt, despite my inadvertant efforts to create doubt.

Edit - corrected typo

Raiders Army · 08-10-2005, 07:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hoopsguy

Yesterday, 5:59PM From Dig to Me
"I can't take the mask defense because Henry also knows I had the cloak. I can't trust without PM'ing him that he would go along with the statement'.
Best hope is suggesting Brian was falsely accusing randomly.

Please explain this statement. dig said he can't trust without PMing henry? How could he PM henry? Are you saying he's a wolf as well?

Raiders Army · 08-10-2005, 07:38 PM

Also, everything says yesterday. Did you talk to digamma today or yesterday? I'm confused.

hoopsguy · 08-10-2005, 07:40 PM

Those are the timestamps I have on messages. My time right now for your post (#679) shows Today 12:38 AM.

hoopsguy · 08-10-2005, 07:42 PM

RA, regarding post #678 and Henry ...

I didn't quite understand where he was coming from on this. But he clearly could not PM anyone else while acting as a villager in his conversations with me via the Cloak of Whispers, which is a two-person item.

Raiders Army · 08-10-2005, 07:42 PM

Weird. Mine is set for EST....says 8:38 PM.

So, digamma said he could talk to henry via PM within the past 24 hours?

Fouts · 08-10-2005, 07:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dubb93

Now back to strategy, I can assure you guys that I passed 1 mask to Ardent, what he does with it now I have no clue.

I assume that fouts was telling the truth(really don't know, but if Lathum was telling the truth about the mask then fouts was also) and now I'm back to square one.

I just wanted to bump a quote from yesterday. If Lathum had the mask, this would confirm my being a villager who mistakenly viewed Lathum as a wolf.

Still waiting for that healing touch.

Raiders Army · 08-10-2005, 07:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hoopsguy

RA, regarding post #678 and Henry ...

I didn't quite understand where he was coming from on this. But he clearly could not PM anyone else while acting as a villager in his conversations with me via the Cloak of Whispers, which is a two-person item.

Hmmmm...FWIW, I've been talking to henry through the Robe of the Priest. If he's able to PM me and digamma....

Raiders Army · 08-10-2005, 07:46 PM

Didn't want to edit...I've been been talking to henry today through the Robe of the Priest. I can only come with two conclusions at this point:

1. digamma was lying to you.
2. digamma and henry296 are in cahoots and are both wolves.

hoopsguy · 08-10-2005, 07:51 PM

1.) He did tell me he was a villager, although he didn't protest his innocence over and over again after being accused. We covered in initial e-mail that we were both villagers. He didn't send a single PM in the last six hours, even though he was on the boards trying to squrim out of a very tight net.
2.) Don't know about Henry one way or the other.

Fouts · 08-10-2005, 07:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by henry296

If we don't lynch tonight, unless a seer gets lucky and then outs themselves we still have nothing to go on tomorrow.

Therefore, UNVOTE Fouts
VOTE qwikshot

Although I am putting myself on a limb, I really feel this is best for all us villagers. There is one other villager who can vouch that I am a good guy.

This tells me Henry is in the clear. He broke the tie that killed the sorceror while digamma and jeff (both evil) wanted a tie.

Right now I only trust the following people: BrianD, Henry and myself.

Fouts · 08-10-2005, 08:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hoopsguy

Using the timestamps on the messages as a reference:

Yesterday, 5:54AM from Peregrine.
"Digamma has communicated with you using the Cloak of Whispers!" I was also instructed to include Peregrine with a CC on all messages.

Cloak of Whispers (2) – [Cloak] The owner of the Cloak may designate one other player to have unlimited PM rights with for one day.

Hmm, a CC to Peregrine isn't unlimited.

hoopsguy · 08-10-2005, 08:06 PM

I'm not sure I'm following you here, Fouts. Are you suggesting that I'm making up the part about CC'ing the moderator?

Trying to think like the moderator, I'm guessing he wants to make sure that the communication between villagers doesn't exceed in-game boundaries. It made sense to me so I tried to follow that rule. Forgot at least once, but kept the entire thread in the replies so he could catch up on anything I might sending earlier.

Poli · 08-10-2005, 08:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fouts

This tells me Henry is in the clear. He broke the tie that killed the sorceror while digamma and jeff (both evil) wanted a tie.

Right now I only trust the following people: BrianD, Henry and myself.

Heh, you don't trust me?

Fouts · 08-10-2005, 08:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ardent enthusiast

Heh, you don't trust me?

I don't know yet. Let me reread your posts. One thing I'm not sure about you is you said you passed the mask of lies to the guy with the hammer, but the mask wasn't destroyed. Still you did not name the person you passed it to.

Leaves you just outside the circle of trust.

Poli · 08-10-2005, 08:17 PM

I'm in the circle of trust. He couldn't destroy it last night. He destroys it tonight or I out him. I trust he'll do the right thing.

Blade6119 · 08-10-2005, 08:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fouts

I don't know yet. Let me reread your posts. One thing I'm not sure about you is you said you passed the mask of lies to the guy with the hammer, but the mask wasn't destroyed. Still you did not name the person you passed it to.

Leaves you just outside the circle of trust.

Peregrine has stated no conditional posts...so who ever he sent it to got it long after they decided what to destroy...i dont see any fault here

RealDeal · 08-10-2005, 08:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fouts

This tells me Henry is in the clear. He broke the tie that killed the sorceror while digamma and jeff (both evil) wanted a tie.

Right now I only trust the following people: BrianD, Henry and myself.

But did the wolves even know that Qwikshot was a sorcerer when that vote happened?

My impression was that Qwik and Jeff were both dead before the wolves knew who they were...

Blade6119 · 08-10-2005, 08:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RealDeal

But did the wolves even know that Qwikshot was a sorcerer when that vote happened?

My impression was that Qwik and Jeff were both dead before the wolves knew who they were...

for once i agree with realdeal...fouts' comment doesnt mean anything...i really hate to say it but fouts is starting to replace realdeal as my #1 target...

Fouts · 08-10-2005, 08:21 PM

Ok, I understand about not being able to destroy it.

RealDeal, my point was that the evil guys wanted a tie (including a wolf), but henry went against that. That earned him a spot in the circle.

hoopsguy · 08-10-2005, 08:26 PM

Anyone who has a wide circle of trust is foolish - no problems with your circle at all, Fouts.

Mine includes Brian and that is it. I'm hoping to add Fouts and the person who heals him with the Ointment tomorrow to the 2nd inner-most circle.

RealDeal · 08-10-2005, 08:28 PM

Notice from the PM's that Digamma was trying to frame me.

RealDeal · 08-10-2005, 08:29 PM

Dola,

No point in making Fouts a target. Tonight he's either going to be dead or exonerated.

hoopsguy · 08-10-2005, 08:34 PM

Real, there is a small chance that he lives and is a wolf (he is wolf, healed by wolf with Potion or Ointment) but that would take one of the two remaining wolves having the item they need. My understanding of the rules is that someone can not purchase the item tonight and use it tonight.

The odds of this are, I hope, slight enough that we can embrace him as a villager without the cloud of suspicion that was over him after Day 2 (Lathum).

08-10-2005, 06:56 PM	#653
Schmidty Coordinator Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Early, TX	Vote Digamma __________________ Just beat the devil out of it!!! - Bob Ross

08-10-2005, 06:57 PM	#655
Mr. Wednesday Pro Starter Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: South Bend, IN	Unless I'm seriously missing something, based on Peregrine's comments, I can't see any way that they're both telling the truth. My vote is academic at this point, but I'm going to cast it anyway. Vote Digamma __________________ Hattrick - Brays Bayou FC (70854) / USA III.4 Hockey Arena - Houston Aeros / USA II.1 Thanks to my FOFC Hattrick supporters - Blackout, Brillig, kingfc22, RPI-fan, Rich1033, antbacker, One_to7, ur_land, KevinNU7, and TonyR (PM me if you support me and I've missed you)

08-10-2005, 06:57 PM	#656
Mr. Wednesday Pro Starter Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: South Bend, IN	Er, that's based on Peregrine's rules clarification. __________________ Hattrick - Brays Bayou FC (70854) / USA III.4 Hockey Arena - Houston Aeros / USA II.1 Thanks to my FOFC Hattrick supporters - Blackout, Brillig, kingfc22, RPI-fan, Rich1033, antbacker, One_to7, ur_land, KevinNU7, and TonyR (PM me if you support me and I've missed you)

08-10-2005, 07:05 PM	#661
Mr. Wednesday Pro Starter Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: South Bend, IN	The only thing I don't get, out of all of this, is why Digamma didn't try to make a claim of having the mask. Did he know that it wouldn't work, due to other people's knowledge of whichever item it was that was in his possession on Days 1 and 3? __________________ Hattrick - Brays Bayou FC (70854) / USA III.4 Hockey Arena - Houston Aeros / USA II.1 Thanks to my FOFC Hattrick supporters - Blackout, Brillig, kingfc22, RPI-fan, Rich1033, antbacker, One_to7, ur_land, KevinNU7, and TonyR (PM me if you support me and I've missed you)

08-10-2005, 07:06 PM	#663
kingfc22 Head Coach Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Morgan Hill, CA	This could be the most dominant WW game yet. __________________ Fan of SF Giants, 49ers, Sharks, Arsenal

08-10-2005, 07:02 PM	#658
Peregrine Pro Starter Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Cary, NC	The day was dominated by BrianD's accusation of digamma, though there were questions, most people seemed to agree with him, and the voting trend became obvious very soon. Final voting Digamma - BrianD, ardent, MrBug708, eaglesfan27, fouts, henry296, Coffee Warlord, RealDeal, Vince, SnDvls, Raiders Army, kingfc22, Schmidty, Mr. Wednesday BrianD - digamma, hoopsguy Digamma struggled against the group but in the end he was lynched, sprouting fur and fangs! Digamma was a werewolf! Night 3 Lathum - Lynched Day 2 - villager kingfc22 sundvls blade6119 Coffee Warlord Henry296 BrianD digamma - Lynched Day 3 (werewolf) eaglesfan27 hoopsguy fouts schmidty dubb93 - killed Night 2 - villager vince Qwikshot - Lynched Day 1 - Sorceror RealDeal Jeff061 - Killed Night 1 - Sorceror Raiders Army Mr. Wednesday MrBug708 Superman=#54 ardent enthusiast Night actions due in by around midnight (flexible.) Fouts will die if he is not healed before the end of the night.

08-10-2005, 07:04 PM	#659
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	My heartfelt apologies for taking up a bunch of our time defending Digamma. I still don't understand his play at all - they did not accumulate silver with him holding onto the Cloak. They lost out on two days of trying to get a better item. Baffling.

08-10-2005, 07:05 PM	#660
Fouts College Starter Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: California	Somebody save me, please. I promise to be good and not finger anyone for the rest of the game. And, good job Brian.

08-10-2005, 07:06 PM	#662
Raiders Army Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The Black Hole	Well, that pretty much assures us that BrianD is on the level. Great job guys. Two sorcerors and one werewolf down! We rock!

08-10-2005, 07:06 PM	#664
henry296 College Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Pittsburgh, PA	Thanks Brian... Good job. __________________ "It's a great day for hockey" - "Badger" Bob Johnson

08-10-2005, 07:12 PM	#667
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	I'll post the general content of my conversations (not in their entirety so as not to incur the wrath of our moderator) with him today - there were not many. Look for posts to follow on this ...

08-10-2005, 07:15 PM	#668
Peregrine Pro Starter Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Cary, NC	Damn, I always forget something. 1 silver piece was found on digamma's body, and was distributed to a random player (basically whoever looted his pockets first after the lynch.)

08-10-2005, 07:15 PM	#669
Raiders Army Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The Black Hole	Dat was me!

08-10-2005, 07:15 PM	#670
Raiders Army Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The Black Hole	First come, first serve!

08-10-2005, 07:17 PM	#671
henry296 College Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Pittsburgh, PA	Does everyone start with 1 silver? __________________ "It's a great day for hockey" - "Badger" Bob Johnson

08-10-2005, 07:17 PM	#672
Raiders Army Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The Black Hole	I think we started with no silver.

08-10-2005, 07:18 PM	#673
Raiders Army Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The Black Hole	Is it 5 silver pieces for a gold piece? I'd really like that +2 wolfslaying sword.

08-10-2005, 07:21 PM	#674
BrianD Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Appleton, WI	It is possible Digamma knew he was busted and knew that claiming the mask wouldn't work. It is a tough position when you know you don't have a defense.

08-10-2005, 07:22 PM	#675
henry296 College Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Pittsburgh, PA	How did digamma end up with a silver piece? __________________ "It's a great day for hockey" - "Badger" Bob Johnson

08-10-2005, 07:25 PM	#676
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	Using the timestamps on the messages as a reference: Yesterday, 5:54AM from Peregrine. "Digamma has communicated with you using the Cloak of Whispers!" I was also instructed to include Peregrine with a CC on all messages. Yesterday, 10:12AM from me to Dig 1.) I'm a villager 2.) I'm going to be out a good chunk of day today, so won't be able to talk a ton until later in afternoon 3.) Talked about Fouts eating the dart last night and impact on voting today - don't vote for him, wasted vote, etc 4.) Cleaned out mailbox to make sure we could exchange messages Yesterday 2:47 PM from Dig to me Digamma picked me, thought I had good thoughts. Digamma is a villager. Had PMs with Henry on first day, thought they were 'pretty much useless' Focus on Fouts/Lathum interplay, looking for someone to trip up in conversation, maybe RealDeal? Yesterday 3:57 PM From me to Dig Dig, if you helped Henry break tie then the conversations weren't useless at all. Going to read early posts, see if there is anything to read during short break at work. Yesterday 3:58 PM From Dig to Me Give Henry credit, Dig and Henry surmised things 'weren't quite up to snuff but I told him I didn't have balls to change my vote'. Said that Henry stated, 'Screw it, I'm changing it' Yesterday 4:18 PM From Dig to Me Can't figure out Ardent - why does he want to destroy all objects? Mask made sense, but why everything he touches? Yesterday 5:44 PM From Me to Dig Guy who gave AE the mask now dead. Don't have much insight on AEs play up to this point - if the mask isn't blown up tonight I will want AE to out the guy with Hammer, since villagers should want mask gone. Not sure I would believe AE in this case (really don't have a good feel one way or other on him) but would post for him to out the Hammer if Mask survives. Not much new on site - little posting (Note - he had not yet been accused) Dig, will catch up with you later tonight after lynching - likely won't have time for good analysis while at this client site Yesterday 5:54 PM From Dig to Me 'Well, something has happened. I'm going to be fighting for my life all day.' Will split into two posts - lot to read here.

08-10-2005, 07:32 PM	#677
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	PMs with the wolf - continued Yesterday, 5:57 PM From Me to Dig Are you going to use the Mask defense? If so, I wish you had mentioned it to me earlier in day. If not, then you can put heat on Brian as part of the one-for-one tradeoff discussed yesterday with Lathum/Fouts. Of course, if you are a wolf and take that stance then you are a dead man tomorrow. Yesterday, 5:59PM From Dig to Me "I can't take the mask defense because Henry also knows I had the cloak. I can't trust without PM'ing him that he would go along with the statement'. Best hope is suggesting Brian was falsely accusing randomly. Yesterday, 6:02PM From Me to Dig 'It could have been passed to you and then you were viewed. I tried to be direct about this in my hit-and-run post on the board. Catch up with you in a couple of hours.' I didn't hear from him again in the last six hours. I didn't PM him again because we were both posting on boards and I didn't have anything new for him. Perhaps I should have tried to keep talking with him down the stretch, but I was tied up with work and on the road for the majority of the last four hours. I understand I've drawn a target on myself here. I also know that the two remaining wolves did not attempt to save him when the vote was so one-sided in order to disguise their voting patterns because this one was never in doubt, despite my inadvertant efforts to create doubt. Edit - corrected typo Last edited by hoopsguy : 08-10-2005 at 07:33 PM.

08-10-2005, 07:38 PM	#679
Raiders Army Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The Black Hole	Also, everything says yesterday. Did you talk to digamma today or yesterday? I'm confused.

08-10-2005, 07:40 PM	#680
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	Those are the timestamps I have on messages. My time right now for your post (#679) shows Today 12:38 AM.

08-10-2005, 07:42 PM	#681
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	RA, regarding post #678 and Henry ... I didn't quite understand where he was coming from on this. But he clearly could not PM anyone else while acting as a villager in his conversations with me via the Cloak of Whispers, which is a two-person item.

08-10-2005, 07:42 PM	#682
Raiders Army Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The Black Hole	Weird. Mine is set for EST....says 8:38 PM. So, digamma said he could talk to henry via PM within the past 24 hours?

08-10-2005, 07:46 PM	#685
Raiders Army Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The Black Hole	Didn't want to edit...I've been been talking to henry today through the Robe of the Priest. I can only come with two conclusions at this point: 1. digamma was lying to you. 2. digamma and henry296 are in cahoots and are both wolves.

08-10-2005, 07:51 PM	#686
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	1.) He did tell me he was a villager, although he didn't protest his innocence over and over again after being accused. We covered in initial e-mail that we were both villagers. He didn't send a single PM in the last six hours, even though he was on the boards trying to squrim out of a very tight net. 2.) Don't know about Henry one way or the other.

08-10-2005, 08:06 PM	#689
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	I'm not sure I'm following you here, Fouts. Are you suggesting that I'm making up the part about CC'ing the moderator? Trying to think like the moderator, I'm guessing he wants to make sure that the communication between villagers doesn't exceed in-game boundaries. It made sense to me so I tried to follow that rule. Forgot at least once, but kept the entire thread in the replies so he could catch up on anything I might sending earlier.

08-10-2005, 08:17 PM	#692
Poli FOFC Survivor Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Wentzville, MO	I'm in the circle of trust. He couldn't destroy it last night. He destroys it tonight or I out him. I trust he'll do the right thing. __________________ Cheer for a walk on quarterback! Ardent leads the Vols in the dynasty forum.

08-10-2005, 08:21 PM	#696
Fouts College Starter Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: California	Ok, I understand about not being able to destroy it. RealDeal, my point was that the evil guys wanted a tie (including a wolf), but henry went against that. That earned him a spot in the circle.

08-10-2005, 08:26 PM	#697
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	Anyone who has a wide circle of trust is foolish - no problems with your circle at all, Fouts. Mine includes Brian and that is it. I'm hoping to add Fouts and the person who heals him with the Ointment tomorrow to the 2nd inner-most circle.

08-10-2005, 08:28 PM	#698
RealDeal High School Varsity Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: here	Notice from the PM's that Digamma was trying to frame me.

08-10-2005, 08:29 PM	#699
RealDeal High School Varsity Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: here	Dola, No point in making Fouts a target. Tonight he's either going to be dead or exonerated.

08-10-2005, 08:34 PM	#700
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	Real, there is a small chance that he lives and is a wolf (he is wolf, healed by wolf with Potion or Ointment) but that would take one of the two remaining wolves having the item they need. My understanding of the rules is that someone can not purchase the item tonight and use it tonight. The odds of this are, I hope, slight enough that we can embrace him as a villager without the cloud of suspicion that was over him after Day 2 (Lathum).

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