Alright boyz, it's the BBCF First Impressions thread. - Page 14

ThunderingHERD · 12-24-2005, 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by WSUCougar

Second, the AI (on offense) declined a 5-yard defensive offside penalty and accepted a 5 yard rushing gain, thus taking a 2nd & 5 over a 1st & 5.

Yeh, that's another thing that bugs me. They do that kind of thing all the time.

Eaglesfan27 · 12-24-2005, 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by ThunderingHERD

Yeh, that's another thing that bugs me. They do that kind of thing all the time.

I guess I've been lucky, but I've only seen that sort of thing happen once or twice in about 2 dozen games of watching the PbP.

ThunderingHERD · 12-24-2005, 06:57 PM

I've watched maybe 15 games in total and have seen that or a variation of it (computer not recognizing the value of the down) happen at least a dozen times.

ThunderingHERD · 12-24-2005, 07:39 PM

From the game I'm watching now:

My computer coach decided to take a run of 6 (2nd & 4) over an offsides penalty (1st & 5) in the first quarter. In the 3rd, my coach decided to give Duke a 4th and 1 at my 25 instead of a 3rd and 18 at the 43. Duke, of course, went for it on 4th down despite being up by 14. They scored a touchdown.

Also, I am inexplicably getting blown out by a bad Duke team.

MizzouRah · 12-24-2005, 08:09 PM

I would like to manually choose whether or not to accept a penalty or decline it. Not sure if that can be implemented into a patch.

dubb93 · 12-24-2005, 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by MizzouRah

I would like to manually choose whether or not to accept a penalty or decline it. Not sure if that can be implemented into a patch.

You get to if you call your plays. The only ones you don't have a choice on are the no brainers such as false start, face mask, and things like holding and piling on during kickoffs/punts.

MizzouRah · 12-24-2005, 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by dubb93

You get to if you call your plays. The only ones you don't have a choice on are the no brainers such as false start, face mask, and things like holding and piling on during kickoffs/punts.

Ah-ha, thanks. I don't call plays, so that must be it. Would be neat to have an option to call those though.

MizzouRah · 12-25-2005, 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Godzilla Blitz

Eaglesfan, Astrosfan: Thanks for the input! Much appreciated. I think I might wait a patch or two to see some of the remaining rough edges cleaned up, then pick this up.

I must say, though, that after having taken a look at the screen shots, this is a sharp-looking game.

So far, only two games in.. I'm loving this game quite a bit. I've seen a goofy thing or two, but the pbp is so much fun to read and nothing far fetched has happened.

I will say this, the immersion in this game is top notch.. period.

Read some of the dynasties GB, you should really get a good idea from them, especially mine.

duckman · 12-25-2005, 10:10 AM

One thing that has been annoying me:

Yesterday, I had adjusted my depth chart due to injuries. I moved all of those that were too serious to chance. Anyways, when I went to sim the game, the game said I had a seriously injured player in the split end position. I went to make the changes, but the Save Changes button would not work. I had already saved the game prior to the playing the week, so I reloaded the game and found that my entire depth chart had changed. I got so frustrated that I just stopped playing it for the day.

Tonight, I'll reopen it and fix the changes.

MizzouRah · 12-25-2005, 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by duckman

One thing that has been annoying me:

Yesterday, I had adjusted my depth chart due to injuries. I moved all of those that were too serious to chance. Anyways, when I went to sim the game, the game said I had a seriously injured player in the split end position. I went to make the changes, but the Save Changes button would not work. I had already saved the game prior to the playing the week, so I reloaded the game and found that my entire depth chart had changed. I got so frustrated that I just stopped playing it for the day.

Tonight, I'll reopen it and fix the changes.

Are you sure you don't have your coaches doing that on the game setup screen?

Johnny93g · 12-25-2005, 11:44 AM

I actually havent had any depth chart issues with the game....I play all my games out, but if i have removed them from the depth chart, they havent played, injured or not.

duckman · 12-25-2005, 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by MizzouRah

Are you sure you don't have your coaches doing that on the game setup screen?

Yes, I wanted to do all the actions myself. I double checked after it happened. When I reopened the game this morning, the receiver was no longer injured (he was not on my injury list when he suddenly became "injured"). I fixed the depth chart and it has been going good ever since.

*shrug*

Eaglesfan27 · 12-25-2005, 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Johnny93g

I actually havent had any depth chart issues with the game....I play all my games out, but if i have removed them from the depth chart, they havent played, injured or not.

Before the patch, I had this happen a few times. Since the patch, it hasn't been a problem at all.

jbmagic · 12-25-2005, 12:56 PM

is the suggestion button for gameplans, calling plays, depth chart, etc based on your own coach ratings or overall AI opinion?

hoopsguy · 12-25-2005, 01:21 PM

Had a moment just now that nearly had me jump out of my chair:

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Florida ball, Q4, 1-10-FLO48 (00:11) 26-28
Offense: Short Pass, Set: Pro Set, Play: PS-TE-rollout-SE-in
Defense: Stop Pass, Set: 3-4, Play: 34-pass-MZ
QB T. Reed completes a 15 yard in to WR D. Williams (CB B. Guliford, SS J. Holmes).

Florida ball, Q4, 1-10-FLO48 (00:05) 26-28
Offense: Short Pass, Set: Pro Set, Play: PS-TE-rollout-SE-in
Defense: Stop Pass, Set: 3-4, Play: 34-pass-MZ
The QB spikes the ball to stop the clock!

Florida ball, Q4, 2-10-USC37 (00:02) 26-28
Eric Scott misses the 55 yard field goal. It will be Southern Cal ball at the USC 37

Florida had no timeouts. They get a 15 yard pass play that doesn't go out of bounds, run up and stop the clock all in the space of nine seconds? I call bullshit. This was a playoff game - if we had lost on a 55 yard FG I would have been about as mad as I can be over a computer game while still being a someone rational person.

JonInMiddleGA · 12-25-2005, 01:27 PM

Hoopsguy -- Is that a cut-and-paste straight from the pbp file or did you type that? Because the LOS is wrong on the spike play (the way it reads, the 15 yd gain doesn't come until after the spike).

Eaglesfan27 · 12-25-2005, 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

Hoopsguy -- Is that a cut-and-paste straight from the pbp file or did you type that? Because the LOS is wrong on the spike play (the way it reads, the 15 yd gain doesn't come until after the spike).

I think the display appearance of both timeouts and spikes are wrong in the PbP sometimes. As far as that play goes, maybe the guys moving the chains were really fat and slow?

sooner333 · 12-25-2005, 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by hoopsguy

Had a moment just now that nearly had me jump out of my chair:

Florida had no timeouts. They get a 15 yard pass play that doesn't go out of bounds, run up and stop the clock all in the space of nine seconds? I call bullshit. This was a playoff game - if we had lost on a 55 yard FG I would have been about as mad as I can be over a computer game while still being a someone rational person.

In college football the clock stops at the completion of a play that results in a first down. Six seconds does seem like a short time, and it probably is a second or two short, but still, you get the quick strike in five or six seconds, and sometimes they are pretty slow on restarting the clock back up, waiting until everything is ready on the sidelines before blowing the whistle...it can usually be spiked about a second after that whistle blows to restart the clock, if everyone gets to the line (which usually can happen if its not way down the field.

MizzouRah · 12-25-2005, 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by sooner333

In college football the clock stops at the completion of a play that results in a first down. Six seconds does seem like a short time, and it probably is a second or two short, but still, you get the quick strike in five or six seconds, and sometimes they are pretty slow on restarting the clock back up, waiting until everything is ready on the sidelines before blowing the whistle...it can usually be spiked about a second after that whistle blows to restart the clock, if everyone gets to the line (which usually can happen if its not way down the field.

Correct, good call.

WSUCougar · 12-25-2005, 04:42 PM

Enjoying my season coaching the New Mexico Lobos, but here's a few more noted issues:

> QB rolled away from presure and threw an incomplete pass that sailed high (long PBP description), but the result was a 9-yard loss.

> My reserve center who played one game and gave up a sack as his only stat was named 3rd team all conference

> #2 Florida was a 16-point favorite over #1 Wisconsin in the championship game (and lost)

> My staff's ratings are different colors depending upon which screen you look at (staff screen or coach hire/fire screen).

Having fun, though!

MrBug708 · 12-25-2005, 05:40 PM

Im still trying to figure out how transfers work. Im in 2012, as Florida State, and I've never had one kid with an interest higher then low.

hoopsguy · 12-25-2005, 07:16 PM

Jon - cut and paste
Eagles - no timeouts. Trust me, given the importance of the game I was positive about the timeout situation. They had to burn them to get the ball back.
Sooner - great point, and I didn't even think of that as I've been watching a lot more pro football than college lately. Upon further review perhaps my beef was not as serious as originally thought.

We got hosed by Michigan in the next game, anyways

Have now lost to the champs in 3 of our 4 playoffs.

Eaglesfan27 · 12-25-2005, 08:22 PM

I was answering the issue that Jon brought up when I talked about the display of timeouts and spikes being incorrect sometimes in that they are listed in the wrong location relative to the play.

As far as what happened in your situation, I was implying the same thing as Sooner. Hence, the comment about the chain guys being slow and fat which would give the team time to get up there and spike the ball as soon as the clock was re-started. I guess Sooner's answer was much more helpful

Eaglesfan27 · 12-25-2005, 08:23 PM

Dola -

Was it wrong that while I was sitting at a REALLY boring dinner with my in-laws, I was dreaming up game plans for my next game in BBCF?

MizzouRah · 12-25-2005, 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Eaglesfan27

Dola -

Was it wrong that while I was sitting at a REALLY boring dinner with my in-laws, I was dreaming up game plans for my next game in BBCF?

Not at all. I'm finally home and once we get everything unloaded and put away, BBCF it is.

Eaglesfan27 · 12-25-2005, 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by MizzouRah

Not at all. I'm finally home and once we get everything unloaded and put away, BBCF it is.

I just finished putting everything away, and am firing it up now

MizzouRah · 12-25-2005, 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Eaglesfan27

I just finished putting everything away, and am firing it up now

Lucky base-tard.

Coming honey.....

Arles · 12-25-2005, 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by bhlloy

Tim - if this is really the case I think people playing smaller schools are going to find it very hard to keep players active.

One thing to remember is that lower talented players tend to be smarter (like real life). Sky Dog has posted a few times on his low prestige teams on this and lower prestige teams shouldn't have that many academics issues.

miked · 12-25-2005, 09:51 PM

Man, I'm so into this now. I just took Rutgers and am off to a 6-2 start including an upset win at #20 Syracuse. It's the first time in a while I jumped up and down after winning a game. Very strange. Love the game.

Gonna be a tough few seasons after this as my 4.5* QB (65%, 2500, 18/2) is about to graduate. But I took a chance and redshirted my 1.5/5 RB, so next year might be a new plan. Oh yeah, I have like the #30 ranked offense and #100 ranked defense. Guess where I'm recruiting...

miked · 12-25-2005, 11:11 PM

Gonna have to start a dynasty thread. Finished 8-4 (5-2) with a 2nd place Big East performance. QB was 3rd team All-American and defeated #13 USC in the Insight Bowl. Getting into this game (helps when you are winning).

What was pretty retarded was that my performance was graded a C and expectations was a B, when my program just didn't want me to embarass the program and not finish last.

Eaglesfan27 · 12-26-2005, 12:10 AM

I'm very into this game too (which is obvious from several threads.) Where do you see how your performance was graded?

TazFTW · 12-26-2005, 12:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Eaglesfan27

I'm very into this game too (which is obvious from several threads.) Where do you see how your performance was graded?

When you finish the post season, there is a report card looking thing.

[edit]It appears when you advance to the next stage and you can see it during the job offers part.

BuffaloHuskey · 12-26-2005, 12:19 AM

Is the QB rating calculated differently than in the pros. My crappy QB was geting ratings in the 120-130 range but completed less than 50% of passes and threw as many picks as td's?

ThunderingHERD · 12-26-2005, 12:46 AM

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Originally Posted by miked

Gonna have to start a dynasty thread. Finished 8-4 (5-2) with a 2nd place Big East performance. QB was 3rd team All-American and defeated #13 USC in the Insight Bowl. Getting into this game (helps when you are winning).

Have funning losing 5+ for the next 5 years despite fielding teams that get better and better.

Eaglesfan27 · 12-26-2005, 01:33 AM

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Originally Posted by BuffaloHuskey

Is the QB rating calculated differently than in the pros. My crappy QB was geting ratings in the 120-130 range but completed less than 50% of passes and threw as many picks as td's?

Yes, I don't know the formula offhand, but it is significantly different from the pro's. 110-120 is an average rating and 140-150 is considered good, imo.

Eaglesfan27 · 12-26-2005, 01:37 AM

Dola -

Vince Young has a 168.6 QB rating this year and most of the elite QB's have a rating over 150.

bhlloy · 12-26-2005, 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by miked

What was pretty retarded was that my performance was graded a C and expectations was a B, when my program just didn't want me to embarass the program and not finish last.

Yeah, my first year I finished 5-6 with a conference mark of 4-4, and got graded a D for performance and D for expectations, and I got the "don't embarrass us and don't lose heavily to Air Force" expectation at the start of the year. I even beat Air Force and finished fourth in the conference and still got graded a D.

Conversely, in a game with USC in the demo I was expected to finish top 10, and I think I went 9-3 and went to a minor bowl (ranked around #18-20), and got B performance and C expectations.

Performance I guess is graded on an absolute scale (win the national title get an A+, go 0-11 and get an E) but I have absolutely no idea what expectations is graded on.

bhlloy · 12-26-2005, 09:47 AM

DOLA - the other wierd thing is for "prestige" I was rated a B, but i think my prestige went down a couple of points. What is the prestige grade for?

Galaril · 12-26-2005, 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by bhlloy

Yeah, my first year I finished 5-6 with a conference mark of 4-4, and got graded a D for performance and D for expectations, and I got the "don't embarrass us and don't lose heavily to Air Force" expectation at the start of the year. I even beat Air Force and finished fourth in the conference and still got graded a D.

Conversely, in a game with USC in the demo I was expected to finish top 10, and I think I went 9-3 and went to a minor bowl (ranked around #18-20), and got B performance and C expectations.

Performance I guess is graded on an absolute scale (win the national title get an A+, go 0-11 and get an E) but I have absolutely no idea what expectations is graded on.

I noticed that teams usually have the expectation to win a few conference games and don't get embaraassed against the rival" not much selection.

Godzilla Blitz · 12-26-2005, 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by MizzouRah

So far, only two games in.. I'm loving this game quite a bit. I've seen a goofy thing or two, but the pbp is so much fun to read and nothing far fetched has happened.

I will say this, the immersion in this game is top notch.. period.

Read some of the dynasties GB, you should really get a good idea from them, especially mine.

Thanks. Yup, I've been reading your and EaglesFan's dynasties. They definitely have helped get a better feel for the game.

The game is definitely on my "to-buy" list. I'm going to wait a bit for the little things to get cleaned up, though, and wait for the playoff bracket improvement as well.

I'm not in any hurry, and I've had better luck with text-sims when I wait for things to get polished before starting a long game. I tend to over analyze games; I don't want to get into my "bug-finding/reporting" mode, which ends up feeling more like work to me. I just want to play and have fun, and that's easier for me to do when a lot of the little glitches are gone.

I must say, though, that I am excited about digging in. Somewhere in my head I had the impression that only Solecismic could make a solid football text-sim, and I am pleasanly surprised to see that I appear to have been wrong.

jbmagic · 12-26-2005, 11:24 AM

i hope all the play by play glitches gets fix soon in BBCF. Because TPF still has them after patch 1.43.

MizzouRah · 12-26-2005, 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Godzilla Blitz

Thanks. Yup, I've been reading your and EaglesFan's dynasties. They definitely have helped get a better feel for the game.

The game is definitely on my "to-buy" list. I'm going to wait a bit for the little things to get cleaned up, though, and wait for the playoff bracket improvement as well.

I'm not in any hurry, and I've had better luck with text-sims when I wait for things to get polished before starting a long game. I tend to over analyze games; I don't want to get into my "bug-finding/reporting" mode, which ends up feeling more like work to me. I just want to play and have fun, and that's easier for me to do when a lot of the little glitches are gone.

I must say, though, that I am excited about digging in. Somewhere in my head I had the impression that only Solecismic could make a solid football text-sim, and I am pleasanly surprised to see that I appear to have been wrong.

Smart move. I waited until 1.03 myself before digging in.

GrantDawg · 12-26-2005, 12:26 PM

I haven't been able to spend a whole lot of time with it so far, but here's my problems so far:

1) I thought we had an option to skip through the first year? I didn't see that option.

2) Why do the coaches refuse to recognize injuries? They still want to start players listed "doubtfull" when there are other players readily available. It is the most severe on special teams where it is much harder to know who should replace whom on the screen (I hate the special teams line up screen).

ScottVib · 12-26-2005, 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by GrantDawg

I haven't been able to spend a whole lot of time with it so far, but here's my problems so far:

1) I thought we had an option to skip through the first year? I didn't see that option.

Under the options menu you can either choose sim full season or sim multiple seasons.

MizzouRah · 12-26-2005, 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by GrantDawg

I haven't been able to spend a whole lot of time with it so far, but here's my problems so far:

1) I thought we had an option to skip through the first year? I didn't see that option.

2) Why do the coaches refuse to recognize injuries? They still want to start players listed "doubtfull" when there are other players readily available. It is the most severe on special teams where it is much harder to know who should replace whom on the screen (I hate the special teams line up screen).

Drag your injured guys to the last position on each position he's listed on, click to lock them, then hit suggest. After that, I right click on my injured player which takes him out of the game for that particular position.

GrantDawg · 12-26-2005, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by MizzouRah

Drag your injured guys to the last position on each position he's listed on, click to lock them, then hit suggest. After that, I right click on my injured player which takes him out of the game for that particular position.

Thanks for the tip, but that still needs to be fixed. Is the AI starting "doubtfull" listed players on other teams?

MizzouRah · 12-26-2005, 02:32 PM

My first "bug"

North Texas ball, Q2, 3-10-TROY17 (01:14) 13-7
Offense: Long Pass, Set: Pro Set, Play: PS-RB-cross-FB-str
Defense: Stop Pass, Set: 3-4, Play: 34-run-Man-B5,7
QB C. Holmes scrambles out of the pocket and gets sacked for a 9 yard loss (ILB N. Brinker).

North Texas ball, Q2, 4-2-TROY9 (01:04) 13-7
Marcus Barlow has his 27 yard field goal blocked by Greg Semple! The ball is recovered by
Steve Bacon (TROY) at the TROY 18. He returns it to Troy 23 for 5 yards.

It said he was sacked, gained 8 yards (pbp) on the play, but he was actually sacked for a 9 yard loss and the ball should have been on my 26 yard line.

GrantDawg · 12-26-2005, 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by ScottVib

Under the options menu you can either choose sim full season or sim multiple seasons.

Ummmmm....where? The options menu once you start the league doesn't have it, and you can't open the options menu in "Create League."

GrantDawg · 12-26-2005, 02:34 PM

Never mind. Found it. It would be nice if it where on the league setup page.

GrantDawg · 12-26-2005, 03:00 PM

Well, that just sucks. I'm waiting 30 minutes for the stupid thing to sim through the season, and it sims right through the hiring and recruiting process. So I'm supposed to sit there and wait forever for it to get through the bowl games and then stop it right before it begins the off-season just so I can have a realistic game? Well, this one is finished for me.

12-24-2005, 06:57 PM	#653
ThunderingHERD College Benchwarmer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: North Carolina	I've watched maybe 15 games in total and have seen that or a variation of it (computer not recognizing the value of the down) happen at least a dozen times. __________________ "I'm losing my edge--to better looking people... with better ideas... and more talent. And who are actually really, really nice." "Everyone's a voyeurist--they're watching me watch them watch me right now."

12-24-2005, 07:39 PM	#654
ThunderingHERD College Benchwarmer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: North Carolina	From the game I'm watching now: My computer coach decided to take a run of 6 (2nd & 4) over an offsides penalty (1st & 5) in the first quarter. In the 3rd, my coach decided to give Duke a 4th and 1 at my 25 instead of a 3rd and 18 at the 43. Duke, of course, went for it on 4th down despite being up by 14. They scored a touchdown. Also, I am inexplicably getting blown out by a bad Duke team. __________________ "I'm losing my edge--to better looking people... with better ideas... and more talent. And who are actually really, really nice." "Everyone's a voyeurist--they're watching me watch them watch me right now." Last edited by ThunderingHERD : 12-24-2005 at 07:39 PM.

12-25-2005, 11:44 AM	#661
Johnny93g College Starter Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Toronto	I actually havent had any depth chart issues with the game....I play all my games out, but if i have removed them from the depth chart, they havent played, injured or not. __________________ FOOL- Toronto Marlboros FOOL Classic Champions 2073, 2078, 2079, 2114, 2116, 2117, 2129, 2152, 2155, 2169, 2192 46 35 FOOL H- New York Giants World Champions 1914, 1928 BBCF: Notre Dame TML

12-25-2005, 01:27 PM	#666
JonInMiddleGA Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Behind Enemy Lines in Athens, GA	Hoopsguy -- Is that a cut-and-paste straight from the pbp file or did you type that? Because the LOS is wrong on the spike play (the way it reads, the 15 yd gain doesn't come until after the spike). __________________ "I lit another cigarette. Unless I specifically inform you to the contrary, I am always lighting another cigarette." - from a novel by Martin Amis

12-25-2005, 04:42 PM	#670
WSUCougar Rider Of Rohan Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Port Angeles, WA or Helm's Deep	Enjoying my season coaching the New Mexico Lobos, but here's a few more noted issues: > QB rolled away from presure and threw an incomplete pass that sailed high (long PBP description), but the result was a 9-yard loss. > My reserve center who played one game and gave up a sack as his only stat was named 3rd team all conference > #2 Florida was a 16-point favorite over #1 Wisconsin in the championship game (and lost) > My staff's ratings are different colors depending upon which screen you look at (staff screen or coach hire/fire screen). Having fun, though! __________________ It's not the years...it's the mileage.

12-24-2005, 08:09 PM	#655
MizzouRah Hall Of Famer Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Troy, Mo	I would like to manually choose whether or not to accept a penalty or decline it. Not sure if that can be implemented into a patch.

12-25-2005, 12:56 PM	#664
jbmagic Pro Starter Join Date: Apr 2004	is the suggestion button for gameplans, calling plays, depth chart, etc based on your own coach ratings or overall AI opinion?

12-25-2005, 05:40 PM	#671
MrBug708 Head Coach Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Whittier	Im still trying to figure out how transfers work. Im in 2012, as Florida State, and I've never had one kid with an interest higher then low.

12-25-2005, 07:16 PM	#672
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	Jon - cut and paste Eagles - no timeouts. Trust me, given the importance of the game I was positive about the timeout situation. They had to burn them to get the ball back. Sooner - great point, and I didn't even think of that as I've been watching a lot more pro football than college lately. Upon further review perhaps my beef was not as serious as originally thought. We got hosed by Michigan in the next game, anyways Have now lost to the champs in 3 of our 4 playoffs.

12-25-2005, 08:22 PM	#673
Eaglesfan27 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: New Jersey	I was answering the issue that Jon brought up when I talked about the display of timeouts and spikes being incorrect sometimes in that they are listed in the wrong location relative to the play. As far as what happened in your situation, I was implying the same thing as Sooner. Hence, the comment about the chain guys being slow and fat which would give the team time to get up there and spike the ball as soon as the clock was re-started. I guess Sooner's answer was much more helpful __________________ Retired GM of the eNFL 2007 Super Bowl Champion Philadelphia Eagles (19-0 record.) GM of the WOOF 2006 Doggie Bowl Champion Atlantic City Gamblers. GM of the IHOF 2019 and 2022 IHOF Bowl Champion Asheville Axemen.

12-25-2005, 08:23 PM	#674
Eaglesfan27 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: New Jersey	Dola - Was it wrong that while I was sitting at a REALLY boring dinner with my in-laws, I was dreaming up game plans for my next game in BBCF? __________________ Retired GM of the eNFL 2007 Super Bowl Champion Philadelphia Eagles (19-0 record.) GM of the WOOF 2006 Doggie Bowl Champion Atlantic City Gamblers. GM of the IHOF 2019 and 2022 IHOF Bowl Champion Asheville Axemen.

12-25-2005, 09:51 PM	#679
miked College Starter Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: The Dirty	Man, I'm so into this now. I just took Rutgers and am off to a 6-2 start including an upset win at #20 Syracuse. It's the first time in a while I jumped up and down after winning a game. Very strange. Love the game. Gonna be a tough few seasons after this as my 4.5* QB (65%, 2500, 18/2) is about to graduate. But I took a chance and redshirted my 1.5/5 RB, so next year might be a new plan. Oh yeah, I have like the #30 ranked offense and #100 ranked defense. Guess where I'm recruiting... Last edited by miked : 12-25-2005 at 09:52 PM.

12-25-2005, 11:11 PM	#680
miked College Starter Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: The Dirty	Gonna have to start a dynasty thread. Finished 8-4 (5-2) with a 2nd place Big East performance. QB was 3rd team All-American and defeated #13 USC in the Insight Bowl. Getting into this game (helps when you are winning). What was pretty retarded was that my performance was graded a C and expectations was a B, when my program just didn't want me to embarass the program and not finish last. Last edited by miked : 12-25-2005 at 11:17 PM.

12-26-2005, 12:10 AM	#681
Eaglesfan27 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: New Jersey	I'm very into this game too (which is obvious from several threads.) Where do you see how your performance was graded? __________________ Retired GM of the eNFL 2007 Super Bowl Champion Philadelphia Eagles (19-0 record.) GM of the WOOF 2006 Doggie Bowl Champion Atlantic City Gamblers. GM of the IHOF 2019 and 2022 IHOF Bowl Champion Asheville Axemen.

12-26-2005, 12:19 AM	#683
BuffaloHuskey Mascot Join Date: Aug 2005	Is the QB rating calculated differently than in the pros. My crappy QB was geting ratings in the 120-130 range but completed less than 50% of passes and threw as many picks as td's? __________________ "Buffalo is the grundle of the weather system" -T-Shirt

12-26-2005, 01:37 AM	#686
Eaglesfan27 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: New Jersey	Dola - Vince Young has a 168.6 QB rating this year and most of the elite QB's have a rating over 150. __________________ Retired GM of the eNFL 2007 Super Bowl Champion Philadelphia Eagles (19-0 record.) GM of the WOOF 2006 Doggie Bowl Champion Atlantic City Gamblers. GM of the IHOF 2019 and 2022 IHOF Bowl Champion Asheville Axemen.

12-26-2005, 09:47 AM	#688
bhlloy Coordinator Join Date: Nov 2003	DOLA - the other wierd thing is for "prestige" I was rated a B, but i think my prestige went down a couple of points. What is the prestige grade for?

12-26-2005, 11:24 AM	#691
jbmagic Pro Starter Join Date: Apr 2004	i hope all the play by play glitches gets fix soon in BBCF. Because TPF still has them after patch 1.43.

12-26-2005, 12:26 PM	#693
GrantDawg World Champion Mis-speller Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Covington, Ga.	I haven't been able to spend a whole lot of time with it so far, but here's my problems so far: 1) I thought we had an option to skip through the first year? I didn't see that option. 2) Why do the coaches refuse to recognize injuries? They still want to start players listed "doubtfull" when there are other players readily available. It is the most severe on special teams where it is much harder to know who should replace whom on the screen (I hate the special teams line up screen).

12-26-2005, 02:32 PM	#697
MizzouRah Hall Of Famer Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Troy, Mo	My first "bug" North Texas ball, Q2, 3-10-TROY17 (01:14) 13-7 Offense: Long Pass, Set: Pro Set, Play: PS-RB-cross-FB-str Defense: Stop Pass, Set: 3-4, Play: 34-run-Man-B5,7 QB C. Holmes scrambles out of the pocket and gets sacked for a 9 yard loss (ILB N. Brinker). North Texas ball, Q2, 4-2-TROY9 (01:04) 13-7 Marcus Barlow has his 27 yard field goal blocked by Greg Semple! The ball is recovered by Steve Bacon (TROY) at the TROY 18. He returns it to Troy 23 for 5 yards. It said he was sacked, gained 8 yards (pbp) on the play, but he was actually sacked for a 9 yard loss and the ball should have been on my 26 yard line.

12-26-2005, 02:34 PM	#699
GrantDawg World Champion Mis-speller Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Covington, Ga.	Never mind. Found it. It would be nice if it where on the league setup page.

12-26-2005, 03:00 PM	#700
GrantDawg World Champion Mis-speller Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Covington, Ga.	Well, that just sucks. I'm waiting 30 minutes for the stupid thing to sim through the season, and it sims right through the hiring and recruiting process. So I'm supposed to sit there and wait forever for it to get through the bowl games and then stop it right before it begins the off-season just so I can have a realistic game? Well, this one is finished for me.

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