Werewolf VI - Den of Thieves

[Thomkal]

I cut and pasted off an old vote count without realizing it. The record should show that I did vote for Masked at the end.

[Eaglesfan27]

I hope we got it right too. I'm just not sure that the methodology of saying that someone didn't comment on this plan makes them a creature is correct.

[Masked]

You did not get it right.

At this point I guess, it is safe to reveal my role - but are we sure voting is done?

[Raiders Army]

This was crazy. I was playing CoH when it went down to the wire. Sorry Masked, but I just wasn't sure and Thomkal tried really hard to sway the vote which either makes him a really good guy or a really good bad guy.

[Eaglesfan27]

Originally Posted by Masked

You did not get it right.

At this point I guess, it is safe to reveal my role - but are we sure voting is done?

I think people could change their mind until Peregrine arrives and tallies the vote?

[Fouts]

Please don't say you are the doctor.

[Thomkal]

Originally Posted by Eaglesfan27

I hope we got it right too. I'm just not sure that the methodology of saying that someone didn't comment on this plan makes them a creature is correct.

Eagles,

It might not be. But again I know I am a bandit and since we have done so poorly at sniffing out creatures, I have to assume that anyone that tries to undermine my plan is a creature, because that is what creatures would do, not my fellow bandits.

[Fouts]

Not sure if this is too late.

I vote JeeberD

[Fouts]

Crap, wrong button

I vote JeeberD

[Eaglesfan27]

Originally Posted by Thomkal

Eagles,

It might not be. But again I know I am a bandit and since we have done so poorly at sniffing out creatures, I have to assume that anyone that tries to undermine my plan is a creature, because that is what creatures would do, not my fellow bandits.

Not true. People who find your plan flawed might not follow it either. Just because someone didn't follow your plan, doesn't make them a creature. I'd rather look at hard data such as past voting patterns.

[Masked]

Originally Posted by Eaglesfan27

I think people could change their mind until Peregrine arrives and tallies the vote?

I will not say anything then.

And to be fair, of course this could all be a last ditch effort to try to save my life.

[jeff061]

How sure are you Thom?

[Suicane75]

Originally Posted by Thomkal

Eagles,

It might not be. But again I know I am a bandit and since we have done so poorly at sniffing out creatures, I have to assume that anyone that tries to undermine my plan is a creature, because that is what creatures would do, not my fellow bandits.

As long as everyone believed you.

[Masked]

Originally Posted by Fouts

Crap, wrong button

I vote JeeberD

I think you have to unvote me first. And yes I am trying to be extremely helpful.

[Raiders Army]

Dammit. If I can change my vote, I will.

unvote Masked
Vote JeeberD

There. That's my final vote. That makes it 50 times I've voted for Jeeber today. And he hasn't shown up to defend himself.

[Suicane75]

I'm going off to make me some grub and watch WAR IS MONDAY RAW NIGHT
@tm Flasch I'll be back for night actions, godspeed.

[Fouts]

Originally Posted by Masked

I think you have to unvote me first. And yes I am trying to be extremely helpful.

I think it is too late to save you. I really hope you aren't the doctor.

Unvote Masked
Vote JeeberD

[Thomkal]

Originally Posted by jeff061

How sure are you Thom?

I'm as sure as I can be at this point in the game, which amounts to next to nothing. I gave good reasons (in my mind at least) to suspect Masked. I practically begged everyone with a secret role to reveal if they had information that would definitely bag us a creature, and no one came out with anything definitive or else my plan would have been abandoned long before it rolled into action.

[hoopsguy]

RA, do you know who the doc is, seeing as how they saved you? Not asking you to give the guy up in your reply, but curious if you had that information.

Sorry if this is a rookie Werewolf question ...

[Raiders Army]

Nope...don't know who the doc is.

It's funny because you're the first to ask me any question about that. At first I pretended to be ambiguous about being the doc to protect him...and I wanted to mask the fact that I killed KevinNU7.

Why you Kevin? I was really suspicious of you that night so I got you. The things you said didn't make sense, since you cleared Thomkal, but by the same logic, you were guilty of killing mrsimperless (I believe...can't remember off the top of my head). I thought you were a creature. Surprise. Surprise.

[Raiders Army]

Hey, and when are you guys going to start playing CoH again?

[hoopsguy]

Probably not going to return to COH - had a blast playing it, but I wanted to spend more of my at-home hours on something besides online games. I still peek at the roll-call threads from time to time to see how people are doing. Threadjack over.

[KevinNU7]

Originally Posted by Raiders Army

Nope...don't know who the doc is.

It's funny because you're the first to ask me any question about that. At first I pretended to be ambiguous about being the doc to protect him...and I wanted to mask the fact that I killed KevinNU7.

Why you Kevin? I was really suspicious of you that night so I got you. The things you said didn't make sense, since you cleared Thomkal, but by the same logic, you were guilty of killing mrsimperless (I believe...can't remember off the top of my head). I thought you were a creature. Surprise. Surprise.

I knew it was you. Was going to bring it up at the end of the day. The Spy role really blew in this version

[Raiders Army]

How'd you know it was me? Because I voted for you?

[Peregrine]

This is the final vote tally I get. Obviously BrianD doesn't get a vote at this point because who's going to listen to him!


Masked - (5) Thomkal, hoopsguy, fouts, RA, jeff061

JeeberD - (4) Suicane75, digamma, Eaglesfan27, Masked

There is a lot of tension in the camp, the appearance of the Warlock has scared everyone. Thomkal's plan has certainly caused a lot of quiet discussion, even if some people didn't vote in the end. Masked gets the most votes, and someone conveniently knifes him to put him down quickly. He doesn't change, but you soon discover why he was being so secretive. With the stitching kit and other medical supplies in his coat, he was the Doctor! The Warlock wanders by and laughs in a booming voice, "Nice going, you fools are our best friends!"

Night 5

TazFTW
Suicane75
Neon_Chaos
Jeff061
Fouts
Raiders Army
Thomkal
Hoopsguy
BrianD
JeeberD
Eaglesfan27
digamma
Kingfc22
Masked - Lynched Day 5 (doctor)
Kwhit - killed Night 3 (bandit)
Airhog - Lynched Day 3 (bandit)
KevinNU7 - killed Night 2 (Spy)
Coffee Warlord - devoured Night 2 (Spy)
henry296 - Lynched on Day 4 (Bandit)
SirFozzie - Lynched Day 2 (bandit)
Qwikshot - devoured night 1 (bandit)
Schmidty - killed Night 2 (creature)
Mr. Wednesday - Lynched Day 1 (bandit)
Swaggs - killed Night 2 (bandit)
Mrsimperless - killed Night 1 (ex-deputy)
Vince - killed Night 2 (Creature)

Night actions in by midnight.

[Thomkal]

Crud.

[Eaglesfan27]

I guess votes after 7:00 PM don't count

[Fouts]

Oh geez. That sucks. I wish you had come out earlier.

[Raiders Army]

When did you count this? I changed my vote after 8, but before this post!

[Raiders Army]

Thomkal, you're now 5 for 5 voting for innocents. Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.

[Eaglesfan27]

I'm afraid this was a brilliant plan by Thomkal to finish us all off.

[Thomkal]

Can I lynch myself?

[Peregrine]

I count the votes at 8 Eastern, when the deadline is.

[KevinNU7]

Originally Posted by Raiders Army

How'd you know it was me? Because I voted for you?

You were questioning/challenging me all day. I didn't expect to get killed because I thought most badnits would wait a few rounds until they learned more about people but once I was dead I instantly thought of you.

[Masked]

Well, I guess I was the logical choice since we must have been running out of bandits to lynch.

[Eaglesfan27]

I really wish dead people would stop making substantial comments. I remember when I died early it was hard to hold my tongue, but I did. The dead people speaking really detracts from the game.

Edit: It would also be nice if we hold off on asking dead people questions until after the game is complete.

[Thomkal]

When it is revealed I'm a bandit after I am killed, here's one bandits view on who to look at next. Which after tonight's lynching will likely be complelely ignored and perhaps rightly so, but for what its worth:

Okay now my suspicisions of people left in the game if I am taken out tonight. I waited till now because I wanted the vote to stay centered on people I voted on to make my plan work. #1 and #2 if we can still believe them are ones who can give us bandits invaluable information, and defense against the warlock in Fouts case, so I just couldn't see voting for either at this time. These are not ranked in order of suspicion, just who I thought of at the time.

1, Neon_chaos. I really want to believe he is who he says he and he is still on our side, but he was the #1 target for conversion when he revealed himself as a Guard because he had information that the creatures likely didn't. And a conversion happened that same night. Plus he goes and votes for Brian after Peregrine told us he couldn't be lynched or bandit killed, and then never defended himself.

2. Fouts-Again I really want to believe he is still with us, but once he revealed his special role, that made him a #2 target for conversion. But he seemed pro-bandit today.

3. Raiders Army-provided an updated vote analysis and noted the concern about Taz that I have myself. Wish he'd stop trying to pick apart my arguments though because I think we are on the same side.

4. Taz-Could be a converted because he revealed himself as a bandit. Not likely though as more juicer targets were available.

5. Eaglesfan-He was nearly the person I nominated instead of King. I thought his comment about Fouts's cough being a gradual conversion to creaturehood either very astute or trying to get us to lynch Fouts, who may be our savior. But at times has seemed pro-bandit.

6. Digamma-very hard to get a read on because he keeps his posts short and to the point. Voted to tie the vote when he voted for Jeeber and questioning my plan at 5 pm instead of voting makes me suspicious.

7. King-barely posts and it is my assumption that the creatures have to have some "silent partners" in order to survive. He fits the bill.

8. Suicane-Hung up on voting for Jeeber. Seems genuinely confused about what is going on in the game, otherwise I have nothing with to suspect or clear with him.

9. Hoops-Jumped right on board today with analysis and comments that make him seem pro-bandit. Not sure the creatures would have had enough time to brief him on what had happened or what to do.

10. Jeff-I still won't reveal what I think his role is. I could be wrong. But seems pro-bandit to me.

11. Brian-revealed warlock. Kill him.

[jeff061]

Such a busy day to end like that. *sigh*.

[KevinNU7]

ok, really now what I said 5 pages ago probably shouldn't have been said but what me and RA are talkinga bout right now has nothing to do with anything. Calm down francis

[Raiders Army]

Maybe should've done in PMs, but it doesn't really affect the game. Sorry again Kev.

[digamma]

Thomkal, your thoughts on everyone are very helpful.

[hoopsguy]

Well that didn't go well.

[Raiders Army]

Updated numbers count before I go to bed. I hope there's still a game left to play tomorrow.

The lucky "13"

1 is a Warlock
1 is the Camp Leader
1 is the Hostage
1 is the Sheriff's Man
At least 1 is an Ex-Deputy (only one has been discovered so far)
There is probably at least 1 creature
At least 2 are Guards

That leaves possibly 5 people to be bandits.

There are at the most 5 creatures and the Warlock, and probably much less than 5 creatures. If there were more than 5 creatures and the Warlock, the game would be over since they would outnumber us. We still have numbers on our side, but the odds are rapidly diminishing against us and the possibility of beating the creatures and the Sheriff are slim at this point.

[digamma]

Dola...
No thoughts on Jeeber?

[Raiders Army]

I'm going to bed, but something to ponder...the Camp Leader voted for Masked. Otherwise, he would've saved him at the end...I think.

[jeff061]

Maybe Thom's the camp leader and that's why he had the balls to pull off such a flawed idea .

[Fouts]

The Warlock and creatures would be ill advised to go after me. I have something in my back pocket that they will not like.

[jeff061]

Not your front?

[digamma]

Originally Posted by Raiders Army

I'm going to bed, but something to ponder...the Camp Leader voted for Masked. Otherwise, he would've saved him at the end...I think.

Unless Eaglesfan is the Camp Leader and thought the late votes for Jeeber would count.

[Thomkal]

Ah yes, how could I forget Jeeber when voting for him nearly ruined my plan. (and now wish it had), I suppose that was my biggest mistake. Jeeber wasn't here for the voting when he could have saved his own butt and did not participate in my plan today. I have to think that if he was a creature, he'd be here for the vote. As mentioned earlier, Coffee Warlord believes he is innocent, but that could be just a hunch rather than a spy reveal. He may not be a bandit because of his slip up on day one, but I have to think he's at least a bandit-friendly role based on what happened today. Which means we wouldn't have been happy if Jeeber was lynched either.