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Old 11-07-2023, 08:48 PM   #51
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Alright, been working my butt off on this, and it's ready for outside testing:

Are you tired of MLS's byzantine rule system? Can't tell your Generation Adidas from your designated player (young or otherwise?) Wish that America had promotion and relegation like (insert your favorite nation here)..

Well, it's never going to happen in real life, but at least in FM you can, with this Mod.

It replaces MLS with a three tier American Pyramid in this initial release.

A 30 team American Premier League (all 29 existing MLS teams, along with San Diego, who will be joining MLS in the future). They play a 43 game season (29 games in a single round robin, then the league splits into championship and relegation groups, and each group plays a further round robin, giving 43 games). The Top Six teams qualify for a championship playoff. The bottom four teams drop down to..

A 29 team American Championship Conference (Featuring USL Championship teams and upcoming expansion teams, which I had to create). Similar to the APL, they split into a promotion/relegation group after a single round robin (28 games), where both groups play another single round robin against teams from their group. (this means the promotion group plays a 42 game season, while the relegation group plays a 41 game season. Three teams auto promoted to the APL, while the fourth-seventh place team playoff for a fourth promotion spot. The bottom four teams in the relegation group drop down to..

A 20 team American League One (Featuring USL League One teams and the top USL League Two teams by reputation), playing a 38 game season. Top three promote to the Championship Conference, 4th and 5th play off for the final promotion spot.

A midweek US League Cup, featuring all 79 teams from the three divisions (30 teams from the lower levels play a preliminary round, and the 15 winners join the 49 other teams in a 64 team knockout tournament. The championship is played at the Rose Bowl.

This league is currently feature complete, with TV money, prize money (for both game results (wins and draws in the league earn some money, so every game has something riding on it) and league position), and Parachute payments set.

I have run several test runs through the editor and in game, but let me know of any crashes or issues.

Possibly coming in further versions:

tweaking team and league finances so MLS teams don't dominate more than they already do (right now, the lowest MLS teams in my tests have enough finances to just about instantly bounce back up in most all circumstances).

POSSIBLY adding an USA League Two. (this is iffy, because I'm not 100% sure how to add in all the amateur teams divisions, and rebalancing everything would be a stone cold bitch to do). I also may fold in the teams from Canada's structure into the American Premier League (possibly renaming the APL the North American Premier League)

Recommendation: Tick "Add players to playable teams", because a lot of the non-MLS teams do not have a full roster (which is another reason to look at rebalancing), and add staff to playable teams.

Link: APL 0.75
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Old 11-08-2023, 04:01 AM   #52
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fwiw, I will say that the console version does seem at least ... playable? bearable? in terms of the really-not-made-for-this controls.

No, I haven't tried using the mouse with the XBox to this point. Mine is wired and that'd be a real bitch to switch around, so I'm trying to deal with the controller to see if I can get the hang of it.

Starting out in the lowest available tier (so, third) in Northern Ireland. Queens University is where my son did his overseas study so they felt like a natural place to learn (no pun intended).

I'm also trying to do it with a bit of house rules. IRL they require 75% of the roster to be either current or former students, so I'm limiting myself to signing only 17-22 year old players unless I happen across one that played there previously in their 17-22 years before moving on. Older players already in the club who played here in that age range also count for the 75% afaic.

It's not going to be perfect (I can't find how they define that 75%, match day? contracted overall? something else?) but my intentions are good at least.
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Old 11-08-2023, 06:41 AM   #53
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Sir Fozzie, I might have to try that. It sounds like a fun way to play in the states. I have never really enjoyed playing in the MLS because the rules for getting players are too convoluted. Trying to start at a low end club and working your way up would be fun. I'm just going to have to decide which city/club I want to start with since Atlanta is already in the MLS.
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Old 11-08-2023, 09:39 AM   #54
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Alright, been working my butt off on this, and it's ready for outside testing:

Are you tired of MLS's byzantine rule system? Can't tell your Generation Adidas from your designated player (young or otherwise?) Wish that America had promotion and relegation like (insert your favorite nation here)..

Well, it's never going to happen in real life, but at least in FM you can, with this Mod.

It replaces MLS with a three tier American Pyramid in this initial release.

A 30 team American Premier League (all 29 existing MLS teams, along with San Diego, who will be joining MLS in the future). They play a 43 game season (29 games in a single round robin, then the league splits into championship and relegation groups, and each group plays a further round robin, giving 43 games). The Top Six teams qualify for a championship playoff. The bottom four teams drop down to..

A 29 team American Championship Conference (Featuring USL Championship teams and upcoming expansion teams, which I had to create). Similar to the APL, they split into a promotion/relegation group after a single round robin (28 games), where both groups play another single round robin against teams from their group. (this means the promotion group plays a 42 game season, while the relegation group plays a 41 game season. Three teams auto promoted to the APL, while the fourth-seventh place team playoff for a fourth promotion spot. The bottom four teams in the relegation group drop down to..

A 20 team American League One (Featuring USL League One teams and the top USL League Two teams by reputation), playing a 38 game season. Top three promote to the Championship Conference, 4th and 5th play off for the final promotion spot.

A midweek US League Cup, featuring all 79 teams from the three divisions (30 teams from the lower levels play a preliminary round, and the 15 winners join the 49 other teams in a 64 team knockout tournament. The championship is played at the Rose Bowl.

This league is currently feature complete, with TV money, prize money (for both game results (wins and draws in the league earn some money, so every game has something riding on it) and league position), and Parachute payments set.

I have run several test runs through the editor and in game, but let me know of any crashes or issues.

Possibly coming in further versions:

tweaking team and league finances so MLS teams don't dominate more than they already do (right now, the lowest MLS teams in my tests have enough finances to just about instantly bounce back up in most all circumstances).

POSSIBLY adding an USA League Two. (this is iffy, because I'm not 100% sure how to add in all the amateur teams divisions, and rebalancing everything would be a stone cold bitch to do). I also may fold in the teams from Canada's structure into the American Premier League (possibly renaming the APL the North American Premier League)

Recommendation: Tick "Add players to playable teams", because a lot of the non-MLS teams do not have a full roster (which is another reason to look at rebalancing), and add staff to playable teams.

Link: APL 0.75

I will definitely try this at some point. I have to bring 1860 München back to glory first though.
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Old 11-09-2023, 09:40 AM   #55
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I just noticed that FM23 Touch that I downloaded via Apple Arcade has updated to FM24.
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Old 11-09-2023, 09:54 AM   #56
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And after a few more sessions with 24 on console, it's almost ... reassuring ... to discover that I'm still not all that good with this game/series lol
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Old 11-09-2023, 08:13 PM   #57
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Maybe it's just me, but I always seem to be successful in my first season, and then it's like the game AI has figured out everything that I could possibly do, and I suck after that.
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Old 08-05-2024, 03:49 PM   #58
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Bump.

I was looking at buying FM24. I haven't played the game in many versions but have a little free time now.

But I was surprised to see that on steam FM24 is still full price?
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Old 08-05-2024, 04:19 PM   #59
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Bump.

I was looking at buying FM24. I haven't played the game in many versions but have a little free time now.

But I was surprised to see that on steam FM24 is still full price?

It's always (at least recently) like that for FM unfortunately. Other than the Steam sales it stays full price. FM23 was discounted for a week mid August last year (16-23)
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Old 09-19-2024, 09:27 PM   #60
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I got FM24 from the free Epic deal, so I've just started playing. I don't know if it's me or the game, but I've had two goals that were disallowed, and I haven't seen anything telling me it was disallowed -- it's just that I look up five minutes later and think "hey where'd my goal go?"
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Old 12-30-2024, 01:31 PM   #61
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Does anyone have experience here with getting condition to show as a percentage instead of a heart icon? I had a skin that let me do it (Vince skin) and I had it working, but now, playing it again, it's not there and I can't find it.
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Old 02-07-2025, 06:03 AM   #62
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Confirmed no FM 25

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Old 02-07-2025, 06:52 AM   #63
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I just read that. That's crazy. This is the first miss I've ever seen from them.
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Old 02-07-2025, 09:23 AM   #64
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Wow. I was actually thinking of picking this up when it came out, so I'd have something to play on my new laptop (macbook pro). Maybe I'll check out OOTP instead as I think it's osx-compatible.
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Old 02-12-2025, 07:17 AM   #65
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Sign of the times - an article about this development in which a streamer complains that this is going to cost him $30K in lost YT/Twitch revenues.

I'll keep my "old man shakes fist at clouds" comment to myself.
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Old 02-13-2025, 02:08 AM   #66
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Sign of the times - an article about this development in which a streamer complains that this is going to cost him $30K in lost YT/Twitch revenues.

I'll keep my "old man shakes fist at clouds" comment to myself.

I read a similar (possibly the same) article and had exactly the same thought!
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Old 02-13-2025, 08:33 AM   #67
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WorktheSpace.. I watch him on a regular basis (he does FM and F1 Manager). Him and lollujo
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Old 02-13-2025, 08:40 AM   #68
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I believe the only FM youtuber I've seen more than once that I recall is the guy who does stuff with his dad.
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Old 02-14-2025, 01:36 PM   #69
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What are some of the most fun/fulfilling careers you've had in any FM version? I pretty much always stick to England (like 2nd/3rd/4th tier) because I love the FA Cup, but might be looking to mix it up in the most recent iteration. Has anyone had a lengthy career in another nation, big or small?
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Old 02-15-2025, 12:08 PM   #70
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My current career (FM21 Touch) I challenged myself to take a blank team newly-promoted into the nation's bottom tier to a) win that nation's top league and b) do well enough that I become a legend, before moving on to another league. My plan was to do the top 6 leagues by UEFA coefficient.

Started in Italy, then Spain, then Portugal, then France, then Germany, and now I have Carshalton in the EPL (England is the longest, of course). Haven't won it yet, but I am a club legend, as well as a club legend of 5 clubs in those 5 other nations. It's currently 2088.

All but one of those teams remained in the top division except the Spanish one (Alfaro), which yo-yos between the Primera & Segunda. Ironically, the very first one, in Italy, Virtus Verona (the "little" Verona club) is easily the most successful, mostly due to a sugar daddy from Russia buying the club after I left. They've won Serie A 13 times and the UCL 3 times and are usually the top reputation club in the world. And their transfer history is hilariously spendy.

Been a lot of fun. Can't help but feel it'll be my last career for a while since full fat takes too much time and this was the last version of Touch. But I'm enjoying it immensely.
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Old 02-15-2025, 12:27 PM   #71
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Hahaha jesus, Touch still takes a long time if you're up to 2088!!! That's awesome.

I like taking or creating a club in one of the minnow countries that plays in a bigger country (Andorra, San Marino, you've got FC Vaduz in Liechtenstein in the Swiss league too), giving them world class intake, and running both the team and the national team. You're probably not competing for the World Cup title with just one team pulling in players and there's luck of the draw for positions so you need to be flexible with NT tactics but you can get competitive in Nations League etc, and I always had fun seeing almost all the guys in that setup coming through my youth system.
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Old 02-15-2025, 03:02 PM   #72
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IIRC, I started this save in late 2022. I'll have to look later to see if the game file tells me for sure. But yeah. It's getting to the point where I'll get a "media" post in my inbox about "flere-imsaho will take charge of his 3000th game this weekend". :O
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