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The Jackal · 05-14-2009, 12:58 PM

Has it been suggested that maybe Lathum was forced to vote for PB by a wolf role overnight?

PurdueBrad · 05-14-2009, 12:59 PM

I've done my part trying to defend myself. My vote is there, my analysis is there. Those of you that were willing to look beyond, much appreciated. I'm going to avoid wasting much more time defending what appears to be a sinking ship, kind of like playing music on the Titanic as it sinks.

PurdueBrad · 05-14-2009, 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by The Jackal

Has it been suggested that maybe Lathum was forced to vote for PB by a wolf role overnight?

Hehe, no, but I would totally want that role in the future. Let's see:

Hoopsguy would vote Hoopsguy
Jackal would profess his love for Sidney Crosby and Marc Andre Fleury
EF would profess his love for Big Ben and the Steelers

and none of you would vote me on day 1.

hoopsguy · 05-14-2009, 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by The Jackal

Has it been suggested that maybe Lathum was forced to vote for PB by a wolf role overnight?

I suggested potential Sympathizer (cultist/sorcerer), but I think that from a percentage chance he is more likely to have a good guy role with information than the one villager who knows the wolves. However, upon further review of that role the Sympathizer does not start off knowing the wolves, but instead scans for them and wins with them.

I do not think Lathum makes this play at all as a wolf.

So, at the moment I've got Lathum pretty damn high on my trust list.

Lathum · 05-14-2009, 01:05 PM

Danny. We all know we can't revel roles. If someone guess something that may or may not be associated with your role or one of it's mechanics are you allowed to tell them if they are correct or not?

hoopsguy · 05-14-2009, 01:07 PM

Jackal, for that to happen there would need to be an unlisted wolf role. We've already verified that one of the listed wolf roles is in the game (Criticizer).

The "Desperate for Attention" needy role might fit into the PB/Lathum dynamic.

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The Desperate for Attention - You want everyone's attention at all times, however you need to be careful not to draw suspicion as a needy. Each night you may pull aside one player and see how they respond to your attempts for attention. If you talk to the empathizer or sympathizer you will know it. However there is also one player out there who if you talk to will learn your identity, but will not be able to outright reveal it to the group.

dubb93 · 05-14-2009, 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by hoopsguy

I suggested potential Sympathizer (cultist/sorcerer), but I think that from a percentage chance he is more likely to have a good guy role with information than the one villager who knows the wolves. However, upon further review of that role the Sympathizer does not start off knowing the wolves, but instead scans for them and wins with them.

I do not think Lathum makes this play at all as a wolf.

So, at the moment I've got Lathum pretty damn high on my trust list.

I think it would have to be considered that he is the Sympathizer and his night 1 scan was PB. At that point no matter if he knows the wolves or not he would atleast know PB's role. Assuming PB came back villager to Lathum this could prehaps explain his actions.

Like I said earlier I really thought this was a bodyguard block/wolf kill issue where PB and Lathum saw each other, or Lathum was the seer. With both of those out the window per Lathum I really don't know what to make of this.

DaddyTorgo · 05-14-2009, 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by EagleFan

Someone asked who I thought was a better choice. I really don't know at this point to be honest.

These last couple days have really sucked at work as I have become the scape goat for other people not doing their job and following proper procedure (how am I supposed to know something that happened half way around the world and I was not told about it until it became a crisis in the meeting today?). I really haven't had the time and at the moment I don't have the patience to look through the thread. Don't use this last paragraph as anything to base your judgement of me within the game from, just letting you know where my head currently is.

gah - sorry to hear that dood. that's fracking frustrating!

DaddyTorgo · 05-14-2009, 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Lathum

still catching up but cut me some slack, you don't wanna vote with me that's fine, but don't come off like I'm an ass because I am trying to stay within the rules of the game and have strict limitations about what I can say, I've already blown up Danny;s PM box with questions.

FWIW I agree with DT's logic about EF and think he is a solid choice.

I agree also. I'm sure Lathum is just struggling to stay within the rules of the game and has blown up Danny's Inbox trying to test them.

The Jackal · 05-14-2009, 01:11 PM

But would Lathum as the cultist put a vote up that would so obviously draw attention to him? If he was the sympathizer and scanned PB as a wolf and wanted to let him know he wouldn't have done it like that, knowing PB would draw tremendous heat from a seer-like vote.

hoopsguy · 05-14-2009, 01:11 PM

Well, PB has said he has a small role. PB did not reveal a larger role when he was on the block yesterday, which makes me believe he does not have one of the pivotal (and public) villager roles. Either he is telling the truth about small villager role or he has a wolf role; those make the most sense to me based on how yesterday went down.

So, would the Sympathizer burn himself on D2 with a showdown against some villager role other than seer? Maybe bodyguard? Otherwise, it would have to be a pretty juicy private role for him to take the 1:1 trade.

Lathum · 05-14-2009, 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by dubb93

I think it would have to be considered that he is the Sympathizer and his night 1 scan was PB. At that point no matter if he knows the wolves or not he would atleast know PB's role. Assuming PB came back villager to Lathum this could prehaps explain his actions.

Would that really be the optimal play?

DaddyTorgo · 05-14-2009, 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Lathum

I assure you I am up to something. Trying to win the game for the good guys, ask yourself why I would play this way as a wolf?

BTW I fully support the vote on EF.

not trying to pick on lathum, just interesting that he fully supports the vote on EF but isn't/won't campaign for votes against PB

just noting that for later in case it becomes of some importance

dubb93 · 05-14-2009, 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by hoopsguy

Well, PB has said he has a small role. PB did not reveal a larger role when he was on the block yesterday, which makes me believe he does not have one of the pivotal (and public) villager roles. Either he is telling the truth about small villager role or he has a wolf role; those make the most sense to me based on how yesterday went down.

So, would the Sympathizer burn himself on D2 with a showdown against some villager role other than seer? Maybe bodyguard? Otherwise, it would have to be a pretty juicy private role for him to take the 1:1 trade.

It wastes two days lynching the villager and then the Sympathizer. There is no other point for that role other than to cause confusion and to protect the wolves at all costs.

The Jackal · 05-14-2009, 01:13 PM

I find it hard to believe the sympathizer learns villager roles when he scans them, so I'd throw that out. It's possible he's the sympathizer knowing he's voting for a non-wolf to buy the wolves 1-2 days of no suspicion on them, but I donno.

Lathum · 05-14-2009, 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by hoopsguy

So, would the Sympathizer burn himself on D2 with a showdown against some villager role other than seer? Maybe bodyguard? Otherwise, it would have to be a pretty juicy private role for him to take the 1:1 trade.

I just reread the sympathizer role. It only says they would learn if the person was a villager or not. They wouldn't learn anyones role.

Lathum · 05-14-2009, 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

not trying to pick on lathum, just interesting that he fully supports the vote on EF but isn't/won't campaign for votes against PB

just noting that for later in case it becomes of some importance

My point is that I don't want people to blindly follow me under the assumption I have 100% knowledge.

I think the reasons layed out for an EF vote are sound

The Jackal · 05-14-2009, 01:16 PM

I've got some errands to run, I'll be back later. Throw me in the deep tissue massage room, Danny.

Lathum · 05-14-2009, 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by dubb93

It wastes two days lynching the villager and then the Sympathizer. There is no other point for that role other than to cause confusion and to protect the wolves at all costs.

IMO that would be a terrible way to play as sympathizer when early on the odds of a villager being voted out are much greater.

If I was sympathizer I would get as many scans as I could and use that info to either deflect attention from known wolves later in game, steer voting, or if need be fake reveal and take the fall.

I wouldn't burn through it day 2 so I could get the first person who came back as villager killed and in the process get myself killed.

Danny · 05-14-2009, 01:19 PM

Danny throws Jackal in the massage room with a 350 pound woman who thinks Jackal is just dreamy

Alan T · 05-14-2009, 01:21 PM

The big hurdle for me today in why I didn't vote for PurdueBrad is the wolf action that we know about from last night. Based on recent games, it seems that type of play of "Criticizing Eaglefan" would more likely attract people to vote for PurdueBrad then anyone else. If a wolf is going to make that play, they do it for one of two reasons:

1) Eaglefan is a wolf and knew he had at least a 40-50% chance of being scanned by the seer and needed some way to try to either push people in a different direction which would require the seer to either out themselves to get him on day 2 with no other COT built.

or

2) Neither EF or PB are a wolf, but this makes less sense to me since EF was just as likely to get heat today as PB, why waste an action on a play such as that?

Ideally why that isn't used on anyone else that wasn't under suspicion or even saved for when it could have a much stronger effect (ie: stopping one vote out of 20 is far less powerful than stopping one vote out of 6 for instance) doesn't add up at all to me.

I already commented this morning that I don't see Lathum making this play as a wolf honestly, I could see it as a sympathizer however but even if that is the case, we still wouldn't want to vote for him since he counts as a good guy for the purposes of bodycount.

There are several others that I pondered voting for (Telle for instance), I also don't really have huge problems with a Hoops vote, but already discussed why I did not go that direction either. The main reason my vote is on EF is it seems to be the vote that tells us the most about other people as well (besides PurdueBrad). If nothing else, it seemed like a decent candidate to run against PurdueBad as it would help polarize the playerbase to understand who was on which side of the discussion.

dubb93 · 05-14-2009, 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Lathum

Would that really be the optimal play?

No, see post #513 and on to the end of the thread for optimal play.

Werewolf XVII Return to the Forest

Alan T · 05-14-2009, 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Alan T

Ideally why that isn't used on anyone else that wasn't under suspicion or even saved for when it could have a much stronger effect (ie: stopping one vote out of 20 is far less powerful than stopping one vote out of 6 for instance) doesn't add up at all to me.

Actually re-reading the role descriptions, I see they can criticize once every other night, so I guess it makes sense to use it last night to get it going, but then that still goes back to the original question, assuming both EF and PB had an equal chance of getting heat today, why use it on EF if PB is a wolf? That is going to do nothing but draw attention in the direction they don't want. There were far craftier places to put it (such as on someone who voted for PB the day before perhaps) to reach the same goal. That is the real struggle that I have with that action from last night.

Lathum · 05-14-2009, 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Autumn

I've lost track of the vote count. Very little movement since it settled at 3-4 targets, and a fair number of votes still to come.

I don't see a particular reason to move until closer to deadline, as I assume we'll see some shifting.

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Originally Posted by dubb93

No, see post #513 and on to the end of the thread for optimal play.

Werewolf XVII Return to the Forest

a lot less people at that point in that game, so much in fact that was an end game scenerio, and why would I set up for a fake reveal when I can't reveal?

Why are you so hell bent on making me look bad here?

Lathum · 05-14-2009, 01:33 PM

pay no attention to the first quote, thats 513 from this game.

dubb93 · 05-14-2009, 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Lathum

Why are you so hell bent on making me look bad here?

I'm not. I pointed out a possible scenerio and you have shit on me since I posted it. Why are you so defensive about what I posted yet you are giving everyone else a pass on their theory?

Lathum · 05-14-2009, 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by dubb93

What the hell does that mean? Either you know he is bad or you don't. Quit playing games, role or not I'm not following you on this vote anymore. Its almost like you are just making things up to sidetrack us.

Unvote PB

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Originally Posted by dubb93

No, see post #513 and on to the end of the thread for optimal play.

Werewolf XVII Return to the Forest

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Originally Posted by dubb93

I'm not. I pointed out a possible scenerio and you have shit on me since I posted it. Why are you so defensive about what I posted yet you are giving everyone else a pass on their theory?

You are so delusional. Your first post comes across as very aggressive towards me, telling me to stop playing games and accusing me of sidetracking people.

You then post the link to a game when you did a fake reveal in and end game scenerio that helped the wolves win and coyly suggested I am doing the same thing which is an absolutely ludicrous since it's day 2.

You then say I am shitting on you and being defensive when I have been nothing but willing to answer questions the best I can, yet YOU are the only one who refuses to accept the limitations put on me and instead try to make it look like I am a wolf making some elaborate play.

How can you seriously say that by posting that link you aren't trying to make me look bad?

PurdueBrad · 05-14-2009, 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Lathum

100% knowledge.

Lathum, if you had to put a percentage (or if you are allowed to) on your knowledge, what percent would you give it?

Lathum · 05-14-2009, 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by PurdueBrad

Lathum, if you had to put a percentage (or if you are allowed to) on your knowledge, what percent would you give it?

I don't think I can say

saldana · 05-14-2009, 01:53 PM

ok, so my initial inclination was to follow lathum...he is way to deliberate in his decisions to do something without having a very good reason, especially something that would put him in a position to get lynched if and when it goes bad.

after stewing on it for most of the day, im relatively sure that Jackal is correct, and that Lathum has been compelled to vote for PB, and is not allowed to change it (i came up with that myself, but Jackal had already posted it) or talk about the compulsion.

assuming that the above is correct, that puts both lathum and pb at the top of my CoT...it makes sense to me that the wolves would want to use lathum as their unwiting tool, as we would not hesitate to lynch him tomorrow, and no one would ever believe his protestations of innocence, knowing his history as a wolf.

that also clears pb for me, as why would the wolves try to force a run on one of their own.

i also find myself folloing alan's logic (a fact which i am sure he will use against me, and accuse me of being a wolf trying to ingratiate myself to him)...i can definitely see the creation of the PB/Lathum dynamic as a means to get heat off EF for the next 2 days.

vote EF

Lathum · 05-14-2009, 01:54 PM

dola- If I didn't have a very good reason for my vote today I would be voting Dubb for sure.

It almost seems he knows I am going to be cleared at some point and is trying to plant seeds of doubt.

Autumn · 05-14-2009, 01:54 PM

Alan, I am right with you on your thinking. Based on what Lathum has said I'm guessing it could be either EF or PB, so I'm fine with a runoff between them.

EagleFan · 05-14-2009, 01:55 PM

WTF? I have been prevented from voting and now everyone is buying into some story that Lathum can only vote PB, like it's a wolf ability to force him to vote that way? Is this another Abe game where the wolves get all sorts of powers?

Fuck it! Vote me out if you're that gullable.

What next, Lathum will claim he can walk on water and that his shit cures cancer and everyone will buy into that too?

Lathum · 05-14-2009, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by dubb93

No, see post #513 and on to the end of the thread for optimal play.

Werewolf XVII Return to the Forest

I know I just posted it.

But please, someone answer me this, am I crazy for seeing this as a blatent attempt to make it look like I am a wolf or the sympathizer attempting to make a move?

You all should look at this, I think it speaks volumes

Autumn · 05-14-2009, 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by EagleFan

WTF? I have been prevented from voting and now everyone is buying into some story that Lathum can only vote PB, like it's a wolf ability to force him to vote that way? Is this another Abe game where the wolves get all sorts of powers?

Fuck it! Vote me out if you're that gullable.

What next, Lathum will claim he can walk on water and that his shit cures cancer and everyone will buy into that too?

Odd that you would blame it on Lathum. He's voting for PurdueBrad, you realize? He never claimed that he is forced to vote PB, and in fact said he would vote Dubb otherwise.

hoopsguy · 05-14-2009, 02:05 PM

Lathum, I think it is fair to try and figure out your angle, especially since you cannot necessarily fill in all the blanks. I disagree with Dubb on Day 2 being optimal for this move in a 21 person game.

Lathum · 05-14-2009, 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by hoopsguy

Lathum, I think it is fair to try and figure out your angle, especially since you cannot necessarily fill in all the blanks. I disagree with Dubb on Day 2 being optimal for this move in a 21 person game.

I never said it was fair, but he is blatently trying to paint me as a wolf. First by accusing me of sidetracking the village then posting that absurd link.

I'm sorry, but that link got me riled up, it's just so adsurd

Lathum · 05-14-2009, 02:09 PM

should say wasn't fair

Danny · 05-14-2009, 02:09 PM

I'll be out for the next couple hours, will be back around 6:00 eastern or so.

PurdueBrad · 05-14-2009, 02:14 PM

Lathum, I don't know what all you can answer but let me try some things:

1- Were you given a pair of names to choose from or a list?

2- Did it guarantee that one was a wolf?

3- Was EF one of the other names?

4- Will the Penguins go to the Stanley Cup?

PurdueBrad · 05-14-2009, 02:14 PM

OH, and Danny's gone, screw the rules, tell us all you know and BK will delete it.

Hehehe!

claphamsa · 05-14-2009, 02:15 PM

hoopsguy · 05-14-2009, 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by PurdueBrad

4- Will the Penguins go to the Stanley Cup?

Magic 8-ball says: "Outlook not so good".

hoopsguy · 05-14-2009, 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by PurdueBrad

OH, and Danny's gone, screw the rules, tell us all you know and BK will delete it.

Hehehe!

Hmm, so one of the people voting for me is suggesting that another of the people voting for me will work in concert with him to cheat the rules of the game.

And people wonder why I'm paranoid?

MartinD · 05-14-2009, 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by The Jackal

I've got some errands to run, I'll be back later. Throw me in the deep tissue massage room, Danny.

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Originally Posted by Danny

Danny throws Jackal in the massage room with a 350 pound woman who thinks Jackal is just dreamy

That's definitely going to be a deep tissue massage...

hoopsguy · 05-14-2009, 02:20 PM

Probably a happy ending as well ...

MartinD · 05-14-2009, 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Alan T

There are several others that I pondered voting for (Telle for instance), I also don't really have huge problems with a Hoops vote, but already discussed why I did not go that direction either. The main reason my vote is on EF is it seems to be the vote that tells us the most about other people as well (besides PurdueBrad). If nothing else, it seemed like a decent candidate to run against PurdueBad as it would help polarize the playerbase to understand who was on which side of the discussion.

Deliberate mistake?

(Yes, I know that it's just a typo, just one that I found amusing...)

Alan T · 05-14-2009, 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by MartinD

Deliberate mistake?

(Yes, I know that it's just a typo, just one that I found amusing...)

It is a little known fact that I play Werewolf like the Da Vinci code. If you carefully look at all of my posts in a row, you could possibly break the code and learn all of the secret roles in the game.

I have already said too much.

PurdueBrad · 05-14-2009, 02:26 PM

^----- illuminati

Autumn · 05-14-2009, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Alan T

It is a little known fact that I play Werewolf like the Da Vinci code. If you carefully look at all of my posts in a row, you could possibly break the code and learn all of the secret roles in the game.

I have already said too much.

THE CODE IS BROKEN

05-14-2009, 01:21 PM	#1071
Alan T Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Mass.	The big hurdle for me today in why I didn't vote for PurdueBrad is the wolf action that we know about from last night. Based on recent games, it seems that type of play of "Criticizing Eaglefan" would more likely attract people to vote for PurdueBrad then anyone else. If a wolf is going to make that play, they do it for one of two reasons: 1) Eaglefan is a wolf and knew he had at least a 40-50% chance of being scanned by the seer and needed some way to try to either push people in a different direction which would require the seer to either out themselves to get him on day 2 with no other COT built. or 2) Neither EF or PB are a wolf, but this makes less sense to me since EF was just as likely to get heat today as PB, why waste an action on a play such as that? Ideally why that isn't used on anyone else that wasn't under suspicion or even saved for when it could have a much stronger effect (ie: stopping one vote out of 20 is far less powerful than stopping one vote out of 6 for instance) doesn't add up at all to me. I already commented this morning that I don't see Lathum making this play as a wolf honestly, I could see it as a sympathizer however but even if that is the case, we still wouldn't want to vote for him since he counts as a good guy for the purposes of bodycount. There are several others that I pondered voting for (Telle for instance), I also don't really have huge problems with a Hoops vote, but already discussed why I did not go that direction either. The main reason my vote is on EF is it seems to be the vote that tells us the most about other people as well (besides PurdueBrad). If nothing else, it seemed like a decent candidate to run against PurdueBad as it would help polarize the playerbase to understand who was on which side of the discussion. __________________ Couch to ??k - From the couch to a Marathon in roughly 18 months.

05-14-2009, 02:09 PM	#1089
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	I'll be out for the next couple hours, will be back around 6:00 eastern or so. Last edited by Danny : 05-14-2009 at 02:10 PM.

05-14-2009, 02:15 PM	#1092
claphamsa Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: non white trash MD	ha __________________ Dominating Warewolf for 0 games! GIT R DUN!!!

05-14-2009, 12:58 PM	#1051
The Jackal Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: New Hampshire	Has it been suggested that maybe Lathum was forced to vote for PB by a wolf role overnight?

05-14-2009, 01:05 PM	#1055
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	Danny. We all know we can't revel roles. If someone guess something that may or may not be associated with your role or one of it's mechanics are you allowed to tell them if they are correct or not?

05-14-2009, 01:11 PM	#1060
The Jackal Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: New Hampshire	But would Lathum as the cultist put a vote up that would so obviously draw attention to him? If he was the sympathizer and scanned PB as a wolf and wanted to let him know he wouldn't have done it like that, knowing PB would draw tremendous heat from a seer-like vote.

05-14-2009, 01:11 PM	#1061
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	Well, PB has said he has a small role. PB did not reveal a larger role when he was on the block yesterday, which makes me believe he does not have one of the pivotal (and public) villager roles. Either he is telling the truth about small villager role or he has a wolf role; those make the most sense to me based on how yesterday went down. So, would the Sympathizer burn himself on D2 with a showdown against some villager role other than seer? Maybe bodyguard? Otherwise, it would have to be a pretty juicy private role for him to take the 1:1 trade.

05-14-2009, 01:13 PM	#1065
The Jackal Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: New Hampshire	I find it hard to believe the sympathizer learns villager roles when he scans them, so I'd throw that out. It's possible he's the sympathizer knowing he's voting for a non-wolf to buy the wolves 1-2 days of no suspicion on them, but I donno.

05-14-2009, 01:16 PM	#1068
The Jackal Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: New Hampshire	I've got some errands to run, I'll be back later. Throw me in the deep tissue massage room, Danny.

05-14-2009, 01:19 PM	#1070
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	Danny throws Jackal in the massage room with a 350 pound woman who thinks Jackal is just dreamy

05-14-2009, 01:33 PM	#1075
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	pay no attention to the first quote, thats 513 from this game.

05-14-2009, 01:53 PM	#1080
saldana Pro Starter Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Bethlehem, Pa	ok, so my initial inclination was to follow lathum...he is way to deliberate in his decisions to do something without having a very good reason, especially something that would put him in a position to get lynched if and when it goes bad. after stewing on it for most of the day, im relatively sure that Jackal is correct, and that Lathum has been compelled to vote for PB, and is not allowed to change it (i came up with that myself, but Jackal had already posted it) or talk about the compulsion. assuming that the above is correct, that puts both lathum and pb at the top of my CoT...it makes sense to me that the wolves would want to use lathum as their unwiting tool, as we would not hesitate to lynch him tomorrow, and no one would ever believe his protestations of innocence, knowing his history as a wolf. that also clears pb for me, as why would the wolves try to force a run on one of their own. i also find myself folloing alan's logic (a fact which i am sure he will use against me, and accuse me of being a wolf trying to ingratiate myself to him)...i can definitely see the creation of the PB/Lathum dynamic as a means to get heat off EF for the next 2 days. vote EF

05-14-2009, 01:54 PM	#1081
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	dola- If I didn't have a very good reason for my vote today I would be voting Dubb for sure. It almost seems he knows I am going to be cleared at some point and is trying to plant seeds of doubt.

05-14-2009, 01:54 PM	#1082
Autumn Head Coach Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Bath, ME	Alan, I am right with you on your thinking. Based on what Lathum has said I'm guessing it could be either EF or PB, so I'm fine with a runoff between them.

05-14-2009, 01:55 PM	#1083
EagleFan Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Mays Landing, NJ USA	WTF? I have been prevented from voting and now everyone is buying into some story that Lathum can only vote PB, like it's a wolf ability to force him to vote that way? Is this another Abe game where the wolves get all sorts of powers? Fuck it! Vote me out if you're that gullable. What next, Lathum will claim he can walk on water and that his shit cures cancer and everyone will buy into that too?

05-14-2009, 02:05 PM	#1086
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	Lathum, I think it is fair to try and figure out your angle, especially since you cannot necessarily fill in all the blanks. I disagree with Dubb on Day 2 being optimal for this move in a 21 person game.

05-14-2009, 02:09 PM	#1088
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	should say wasn't fair

05-14-2009, 02:20 PM	#1096
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	Probably a happy ending as well ...

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