Werewolf IX: Village of the Damned

[SnDvls]

Originally Posted by ardent enthusiast

With Warlord out, I can now say I've been suspicious of Superman. I still for the life of me can't figure out why they didn't go after CW, Schmidty, Superman, or myself.

Of course, I can't figure out why items haven't been fed to me, either. Now that pipeline is done. Sigh.

well I haven't gotten anything either. Earlier I can see it's because I'm not really in the "fofc crowd" and lately it's because a few (bug and Sup) pointed fingers at me as a wolf. Now if I don't get something tonight (assuming I live) I think it's because you all have smell-o-vision or somthing

[Mr. Wednesday]

SnDvls, FWIW, you're currently in my circle of trust (that term being in vogue of late). I think Vince believes me about you as well.

[MrBug708]

I dont have too mcuh to go on eirght now either but

vote - Raiders Army

[hoopsguy]

If we do not have any seer revelations today then I'm looking at two candidates:
RealDeal - fallout from yesterday
RaidersArmy - based on my suspicions I have outlined earlier

I'm really looking for a better reason to vote for someone than I have for either of these two but I don't know how long it serves our collective purposes to wait for information that may not emerge. Sometime soon we need to get the conversation going ...

[SnDvls]

I think RealDeal is ok...right now

Raiders and Bug have big question marks for me. With both when the vote/unvote and how.
Superman falls in that category too, but I'm getting a stronger vibe from the first two

don't know if that helps anyone, but it's my 2 cents

[Poli]

About 1 more hour till I leave. I certainly hope we get the right guy this time.

[Raiders Army]

Originally Posted by MrBug708

I dont have too mcuh to go on eirght now either but

vote - Raiders Army

Okay...this is a little maddening. Why me? I'd like to think I've helped more than I've (unintentionally) hurt. I guess you guys don't see it that way.

Then again, judging on your spelling (or typing skills) I would guess that you're drunk. Heh heh.

No, seriously, why me? I don't think RealDeal is the one, but in case it comes down to it, I'll vote for him because of self-preservation. I'd also like you to think about the question I asked of him last night: Why vote for yourself?

If he's an innocent villager, he's only helping the wolves, and that's somewhat odd.

If he's a wolf, it's a brilliant ploy to deflect it on someone else.



2 more reports to go in real life.

[Raiders Army]

yeah, and if I forgot

Vote RealDeal

[Vince]

Raiders Army -- Well Other Leads Fail me.

I've been trying to follow up on any sort of lead possible, and I keep coming up with question marks. I still don't know if subtlety or brazen revealing is the way to go -- I think I'm leaning towards subtlety right now.

[SnDvls]

[quote=Raiders Army]Okay...this is a little maddening. Why me? I'd like to think I've helped more than I've (unintentionally) hurt. I guess you guys don't see it that way.

Then again, judging on your spelling (or typing skills) I would guess that you're drunk. Heh heh.

No, seriously, why me? I don't think RealDeal is the one, but in case it comes down to it, I'll vote for him because of self-preservation. I'd also like you to think about the question I asked of him last night: Why vote for yourself?

[\QUOTE]

ya I'm a little type happy today, not drunk just trying to do too many things at once. Raiders it sucks knowing your innocent and no one believes you, well take this for what it's worth. unvote Raiders Army

vote Superman

I had him a couple of times on my radar.

[Superman=#54]

Any real reasons as to why am worthy of a vote?

I have been quiet. Sndvls I have never accused you alone. In my post I listed several people that were suspect of being wolves. I never gave a direct accusation. I was just analyzing what I have read. I'm just a villager, nothing more and nothing less.

[Coffee Warlord]

Folks are on their way up to visit, and I will thusly be gone and inaccesible from 5pm till late this evening, so...

Vote RealDeal

He was a huge proponent of offing a villager, and, to be perfectly honest, I'm not altogether thrilled about the pissing contest that went on last night.

[Vince]

Originally Posted by Raiders Army

Okay...this is a little maddening. Why me? I'd like to think I've helped more than I've (unintentionally) hurt. I guess you guys don't see it that way.

I re-read everything RA, and I can't come up with anything concrete about you. That being said, it didn't alleviate my suspicion of you. I've got a few leads on what is going on, but there are a few glaring holes in my analysis because I don't know who has what. If I knew what you had yesterday/have today, I could probably clear your name completely -- but that's unlikely to happen.

[Raiders Army]

Originally Posted by Vince

I re-read everything RA, and I can't come up with anything concrete about you. That being said, it didn't alleviate my suspicion of you. I've got a few leads on what is going on, but there are a few glaring holes in my analysis because I don't know who has what. If I knew what you had yesterday/have today, I could probably clear your name completely -- but that's unlikely to happen.

*Whew, just got done with my inspection reports...8 in total*

Alrighty, now my full attention can be on the game...at least for the next 20 minutes until I go home. I am leery of letting people know what I had/have yesterday and today, simply because that makes me a target. I'd like to clear myself, but I'm not willing to risk it.

One thing that came to my mind while I was working is that maybe RealDeal is the sorceror? But then that doesn't jive with what happened last night, since he said that he was going to vote for himself before someone was converted.

I think if we get a wolf or a sorceror at least by tomorrow night that would be great.

Also, can I put in a vote to put this game on hiatus over the weekend with the next lynch vote on Monday night? There are some preseason games I'd like to watch on the NFL Network as well as Kung Fu Hustle and I'm going to get Madden.

[Vince]

Originally Posted by Raiders Army

I am leery of letting people know what I had/have yesterday and today, simply because that makes me a target. I'd like to clear myself, but I'm not willing to risk it.

I hate to break it to you my friend, but you're already a target on a few people's minds.

Originally Posted by Raiders Army

One thing that came to my mind while I was working is that maybe RealDeal is the sorceror? But then that doesn't jive with what happened last night, since he said that he was going to vote for himself before someone was converted.

There was no sorceror until AFTER the night actions, so that can't be. I myself am very suspicious of RealDeal's actions...I don't know how/where to place him. I wouldn't be terribly surprised if he still has the Coat of Arms.

[SnDvls]

I second the hiatus thing, I'm going to ASU's training camp this Sat. all morning so I'd be hard to be active.

Superman, unless a landslide comes at you I'm keeping my vote there. I don't want to off a villager, but I don't want everyone to bandwaggon on you either until I know more.

[Peregrine]

Also, can I put in a vote to put this game on hiatus over the weekend with the next lynch vote on Monday night? There are some preseason games I'd like to watch on the NFL Network as well as Kung Fu Hustle and I'm going to get Madden.

Is that a threat? Why should we care how Madden you get?

I was going to have the next lynch vote on Sunday night but I don't mind moving it back if several people have problems with it.

[Raiders Army]

Originally Posted by Vince

I hate to break it to you my friend, but you're already a target on a few people's minds.

Really???

Originally Posted by Vince

There was no sorceror until AFTER the night actions, so that can't be. I myself am very suspicious of RealDeal's actions...I don't know how/where to place him. I wouldn't be terribly surprised if he still has the Coat of Arms.

Hmmmmm....That's a possibility then. Actually, that's the only reason I can think of as to why someone would want others to vote for them.

Now, the question is why would he want to get rid of it?

[Raiders Army]

Originally Posted by Peregrine

Is that a threat? Why should we care how Madden you get?

I was going to have the next lynch vote on Sunday night but I don't mind moving it back if several people have problems with it.

Because....not only do I have an NCAA dynasty going, but I also need to get my Madden dynasty kickin!

[Vince]

Originally Posted by Raiders Army

I am leery of letting people know what I had/have yesterday and today, simply because that makes me a target. I'd like to clear myself, but I'm not willing to risk it.

I'm still leery of you unless I can figure out what it is you held yesterday. Today's item would probably also clear you, but yesterday's is the important one, and I think you'll agree that admitting to an item you may no longer possess is much less damning than the one you currently hold.

[Raiders Army]

I guess it doesn't matter at this point, but I don't like the fact that people will know that the wolves have it now. I had a saber of duels, but I passed it onto henry last night. I was going to hold onto it since it looked like I might have to duel hoops (heh heh), but I gave it to henry because I think that I've been a little too vocal the past few days and I might've been a target last night. Ironically, I gave it to the target last night.

[Peregrine]

Voting so far:

kingfc22 - ardent
RealDeal - Eaglesfan27, RealDeal, Raiders Army, Coffee Warlord
Raiders Army - MrBug708
Eaglesfan27 - Mr. Wednesday
Superman - Sndvls

[Vince]

So now the Wolves have a sabre of duels AND the coat of arms (if RealDeal is to be believed)? Ay...what a disastrous night. Give me a minute to update my info here, and I'll see what I can do about clearing you, RA.

[Raiders Army]

Going home now. I'll check you guys out later.

[RealDeal]

This is a compilation of all the information I have. It's not much, but it will be useful to you after tonight.

1. I started the game with the coat of arms.
2. I kept the coat of arms up until last night.
3. I received 1 silver of Blade's money when he died.
4. I passed the coat and the 1 silver to henry last night.
5. I received another silver this morning since I did not have an item.
6. I have no hard evidence, but my top three suspects have been king (really laying low), superman, and coffee warlord, although ardent's statements seems to clear CW.

I do once again urge you to kill me tonight, so I can be vindicated. Blade's actions have harmed this team more than any actions the wolves have taken so far.

[Raiders Army]

I guess that's some good knowledge for us all to know; I've been too hammered at work here to think of the game clearly. Maybe I should've used it, but I didn't want to kill a villagers (odds were). Also, henry is the one I talked to, so I trusted him (although I didn't the day I talked to him!)

I'm going home now.

[Vince]

Originally Posted by Raiders Army

I guess it doesn't matter at this point, but I don't like the fact that people will know that the wolves have it now. I had a saber of duels, but I passed it onto henry last night. I was going to hold onto it since it looked like I might have to duel hoops (heh heh), but I gave it to henry because I think that I've been a little too vocal the past few days and I might've been a target last night. Ironically, I gave it to the target last night.

Hrm, well that's not at all what I was expecting you to say. It doesn't clear you -- and your response here puts you even more in the limelight. Why wouldn't you want anyone to know that the wolves have the sabre? Now we have a definite wolf if the sabre is used -- a pretty good trade off, if you ask me.

[Vince]

Hoops has been awfully quiet today...and if I was a wolf, I'd probably look to converting someone like him -- thoughtful, not quite a major target. Plus, I haven't ever been thouroughly convinced that he isn't a wolf to begin with. What's your take on today, hoops?

[SnDvls]

Something give me a bad feeling that all my talk about trusting AE that he was converted last night.

[Vince]

Well, I'm out to mow the lawns over here at my uncle's. I should be back in an hour or so. Currently, the only people I'm not distrustful of are SnDvls, Mr. Wednesday and myself. Coffee Warlord seems to be pretty safe in my eyes too. Everyone else? I have no clue

[MrBug708]

Unvote - Raiders Army
Vote - Ardent E

I think you were a werewolf from the get go or were converted last night. Just a hunch is all...

[Peregrine]

Current voting:

kingfc22 - ardent
RealDeal - Eaglesfan27, RealDeal, Raiders Army, Coffee Warlord
Eaglesfan27 - Mr. Wednesday
Superman - Sndvls
ardent - MrBug708

Still 6 people haven't voted.

[hoopsguy]

Been quiet because I was at a client site today with another person from my work - can't spend as much time posting when I've got customers and co-workers to work with

Which is too bad because this is a day that I think is pretty pivotal for us.

Was not converted last night, although of course I would say that even if it was so that is a lousy defense. I would use my posts on the money trail as a demonstration of my continued villager status.

Hopefully more thoughts to come ... have to catch up on the thread a little bit before commenting further.

[hoopsguy]

Although it isn't explicit, the stories between AE and Coffee dovetail together nicely enough that I would believe they are a package deal - both villagers or both wolves. I don't believe the latter; there is no reason for the wolves to associate with each other any more in their postings than any other two random people on the board unless the life of a wolf is called into question and it appears to be salvageable.

This assumes that one of them wasn't converted last night. Which also screws with my previous trust of Vince to some extent.

Two other "villagers" that appear tied together at this point is Mr. Wednesday and SunDvls. Wednesday vouches for Sun as a villager.

So that leaves some parties that are up for grabs - dont' have time for a full list before making the drive home but hope to continue these thoughts soon:

RealDeal - probably going to pass tonight. I hope that Blade was lucky/good in targeting him early in the process and forcing the issue.

Raiders - a guy I have been watching closely for two days now. Why would he give away the Saber? What was he hoping to gain with that move if he thought I might turn up the heat today? If he is a villager wouldn't he be inclined to think that someone focusing on him is a werewolf? If so, the saber would be a nice backup option in the event that a lynching is approaching. Same logic holds if a wolf - why give this item up if you feel that you are in danger during the daytime hours? Unless you are trying to accumulate silver for some reason ...

Eaglesfan - really wish he was more actively participating. I thought I would have fun playing this game with him after reading his analysis (OK, it was wrong, but still ...) during the first Vampire/WW game. He has stated that he isn't able to be as active this week, but is every person who stated that being honest vs. lying low as a wolf until numbers are more advantageous? A suspect, but not terribly high on the list. Medium/high on the list of guys I would convert if I was a wolf.

[Raiders Army]

Originally Posted by Vince

Hrm, well that's not at all what I was expecting you to say. It doesn't clear you -- and your response here puts you even more in the limelight. Why wouldn't you want anyone to know that the wolves have the sabre? Now we have a definite wolf if the sabre is used -- a pretty good trade off, if you ask me.

Okay, I'm sorry but work took precedence today, although I checked in now and then. Fridays and Mondays always suck for me because it's when I do the most work.

Today I had to write up our inspection reports which were (on average) 4 pages. That sucked. I was able to cut and paste a lot, but it still sucked some brain cells out of my head. Couple that with my Friday morning run (2.9 miles all uphill), and I'm officially fried today.

This is my last post in this thread, since we're going to watch Kung Fu Shuffle and then I'm going to bed....with my wife!!!

I have no night actions at this point, so I'll see you all this weekend sometime. I'll probably check in tomorrow morning.

[Vince]

Well, I'm running late, and I agree with hoopsguy -- this is a pivotal vote. I wanted to try to figure out who the second werewolf was before posting this...but since I'm on the way out and I might be killed tonight, it needs to be put out in the open.

I own the Notebook. It was passed to me yesterday, and I used it that night to track the Coat of Arms. This is where things get interesting.

RealDeal is telling the truth -- he passed the Coat of Arms to Henry. Henry was killed, so the coat of arms was lost to the wolves, however...the notebook also allows me to see where the item ended up...

...which is with Raiders Army.

Even though he has the coat of arms and it's a wasted vote, I haven't been able to draw out the other wolf, so I vote for Raiders Army.

I am going to pass the notebook on to someone who I think is a villager tonight, so that in case I die, it remains in the game -- it is a quite valuable item, in my opinion.

Good luck gentlemen, and godspeed.

[Schmidty]

Well, I guess I'll:

Vote RealDeal

If only to get him out of the game.

[Eaglesfan27]

Originally Posted by hoopsguy

Eaglesfan - really wish he was more actively participating. I thought I would have fun playing this game with him after reading his analysis (OK, it was wrong, but still ...) during the first Vampire/WW game. He has stated that he isn't able to be as active this week, but is every person who stated that being honest vs. lying low as a wolf until numbers are more advantageous? A suspect, but not terribly high on the list. Medium/high on the list of guys I would convert if I was a wolf.

I've been fairly quiet because I haven't had any significant insightful things to say. However, I've posted impressions wherever I've had them. I guess I've been a bit gun shy about posting detailed analysis after my analysis was so severely flawed in the game where SirFozzie and the vampires won.

Also, my wife truly has been on vacation this week which has lowered my activity somewhat. However, she isn't home tonight and I'll be following the next few hours with great interest. I am on call tonight which will hopefully be quiet (that is why she went out with her best friend tonight.)

Also, I think it is easier to do a detailed analysis when they are fewer people and there is more posts to analyze.

[hoopsguy]

Vote Raiders Army

Sucks that it will take two votes to bag him, but I'm glad to see that Raiders got caught in a lie. I passed the Notebook to Vince so I am pretty confident he is telling the truth.

[kingfc22]

After analyzing voting patterns up to this point and the analysis of Vince and Hoops of whom I trust are villagers. I will cast my vote for:

Vote Raiders Army

[Mr. Wednesday]

Unvote EaglesFan27
Vote RaidersArmy

[Mr. Wednesday]

Er, wait. If he has the coat of arms, then I'll hold off on that and angle for someone else.

Unvote Raiders Army
Vote EaglesFan27

[Eaglesfan27]

I think the analysis is solid by Hoopsguy and Vince, but I think RealDeal might still be a wolf. His behavior is outlandish, and I think he is trying to fool us by passing the coat and voting for himself. I'll stick with my vote for now.

[Vince]

Originally Posted by Eaglesfan27

I think the analysis is solid by Hoopsguy and Vince, but I think RealDeal might still be a wolf. His behavior is outlandish, and I think he is trying to fool us by passing the coat and voting for himself. I'll stick with my vote for now.

For what it's worth, I think this would be an incredibly devious strategy...

RealDeal and Raiders Army are wolves.

RealDeal passes the Coat of Arms to Henry...whom they then attack, knowing they can get the Coat of Arms back.

RealDeal is then killed, Raiders Army piles on to look innocent, and not only does RA look innocent, but he has a 'get out of lynch free' card.

RealDeal voting for himself is just...odd, though. And Raiders Army didn't exactly pile on -- that leads me to believe that RealDeal is in fact a villager.

[SnDvls]

UNVOTE SUPERMAN
VOTE RAIDERS ARMY

I guess we'll see who has the coat

[Vince]

Well, something that I just now noticed that alleviates a LOT of worries --

Originally Posted by Rules

Notebook of the Detective – [Notebook] The owner of the notebook may designate one item to track in the night. The Detective will be notified who ended up with the Item after the pass phase. The detective is not notified if the Thief steals the item, he will still think it is with its old owner. If the tracked item is not in the game he will be notified of that.

I was worried that RA might have used the Thief's Glove to steal it, and that's how he ended up with it -- but since this is the case, Raider's Army has to be a wolf.

[hoopsguy]

Also, if RealDeal is a wolf with Raiders he could have just passed him the Coat - no need to go through Henry for it.

The fact that RealDeal surrendered the item when he was up for lynching makes me strongly believe he is a villager. Not 100%, but pretty close. If he was a wolf he could at least stall us out with the item.

Also, Real posted that he sent it to Henry before Vince came out with the Notebook. I just don't see him being deceitful here. Say what you will about how he played the game earlier, I see him as on my team at this point. And Real votes very low on my sorceror worries since the chances of him being lynched today were quite high.

[hoopsguy]

Wow, sure is quiet around here ... guys, it really looks like we have a wolf in our sites and we still have four votes (tie) on RealDeal. Raiders is not moving his ...

Votes are, I think:
Kingfc - Ardent
RealDeal - Eagles, RealDeal, Raiders, Coffee, Schmidty
Eagles - Mr. Wednesday
Ardent - Bug
Raiders - Vince, Hoops, Kingfc, Sundvls

[hoopsguy]

Tie is another stalemate. We absolutely cannot afford this.

[hoopsguy]

And the only alive villager that I'm seeing in the list of active users on the site is Schmidty - last posted 14 minutes ago in "What the Hell Do You Look Like".

Jeff, Fouts, Henry, Lathum - wish one of you guys could cast a vote right about now as I've seen you viewing the thread.