Werewolf XCVIII - 24 Day Game Over - Post 2899

[hoopsguy]

Confirmed time on start of Day 2. 8:06 PM CST last night.

[Passacaglia]

Originally Posted by hoopsguy

Pass, I believe it was 8:06 PM on 7/7. Will double-check that now.

Thanks. 8:06 Central?

[hoopsguy]

OK, back out again for an hour or so. I'm hoping BK beats me back to the thread.

[Passacaglia]

So we're past 23:00, and 40% is enough to lynch. Clap had 8 of 21 before I unvoted. Or am I wrong about that...Alan?

[EagleFan]

But 8 isn't 40%.

[EagleFan]

It's 38%

[Alan T]

Originally Posted by Passacaglia

So we're past 23:00, and 40% is enough to lynch. Clap had 8 of 21 before I unvoted. Or am I wrong about that...Alan?

Clap had 7 votes according to the vote count on the last page. We would have been at what I would assume was the 40% stage of 23 hours though and he needed 9 votes if I am doing the math correctly. Even if there is a hidden vote in there, we still would have been one short. Now that you unvoted, we are two short.

[Alan T]

Originally Posted by hoopsguy

Chief Rum - EagleFan (924, 3:23 PM), Telle (950, 3:53 PM)
Claphamsa - Pass (775, 8:57 AM), nfg (781, 9:21 AM), DT (923, 3:23 PM), Alan T (935, 3:31), Autumn (948, 3:46), Purdue (967, 4:58 pm), Chief (969, 6:01 PM)

Purdue - path (867, 1:55), Schmidty (956 4:18 pm), Jackal (960, 4:37 pm), Danny (966 4:55 pm), NTN (991, 7:09 PM), Clap (993, 7:14 PM)

Telle - BrianD (881, 2:23 PM)

nfg22 - king (949, 3:51 PM)

The Jackal - Saldana (947, 3:44 PM)

This is the last vote count I see and what I am going off of. I see only 7 votes here right?

[Passacaglia]

Originally Posted by EagleFan

But 8 isn't 40%.

I wasn't saying it was. I was just setting the scene. Sorry, I guess I could have come through with the percent. It looks like 9/21 is required to lynch. My thinking on Alan was that his vote counted double, making us actually 9/22, but that would have given us a lynch, so my read on him is off.

[EagleFan]

6-6 now if I am counting correctly.

[Passacaglia]

Originally Posted by Alan T

This is the last vote count I see and what I am going off of. I see only 7 votes here right?

Yep. I was going off clap's post saying he had 8 -- but maybe he was counting two for you also.

[PurdueBrad]

Yeah, we're tied at 6 all right now.

[EagleFan]

Originally Posted by Passacaglia

I wasn't saying it was. I was just setting the scene. Sorry, I guess I could have come through with the percent. It looks like 9/21 is required to lynch. My thinking on Alan was that his vote counted double, making us actually 9/22, but that would have given us a lynch, so my read on him is off.

It was actually only 7 when you unvoted to make it 6. I looked back and the 8 number came from clap thinking he had 8 votes on him.

[claphamsa]

i went from the last count... and added new votes... but im not a good counter :P thats why i work for the government.

[Alan T]

Originally Posted by Passacaglia

I wasn't saying it was. I was just setting the scene. Sorry, I guess I could have come through with the percent. It looks like 9/21 is required to lynch. My thinking on Alan was that his vote counted double, making us actually 9/22, but that would have given us a lynch, so my read on him is off.

My vote does not count double. I didn't really suggest that was the case. I was simply saying that yesterday's vote count had an extra hidden vote in it. I haven't commented yet today if that was the case or not. I can understand the confusion, but for arguement sake if there was one hidden today as well, we still would have been one vote short. (now two votes short if you were trying to save Claphamsa just now)

[Passacaglia]

Originally Posted by Alan T

My vote does not count double. I didn't really suggest that was the case. I was simply saying that yesterday's vote count had an extra hidden vote in it. I haven't commented yet today if that was the case or not. I can understand the confusion, but for arguement sake if there was one hidden today as well, we still would have been one vote short. (now two votes short if you were trying to save Claphamsa just now)

Right -- I think we're all clear. Yes, I didn't want us to be one short of lynching clap right now.

[EagleFan]

Hi PB, would you like to discuss changing that sig?

[Alan T]

Ok just making sure everyone is on the same page.

Keep in mind the percentages are just my guesses of what is needed though.

[Passacaglia]

Originally Posted by Alan T

Ok just making sure everyone is on the same page.

Keep in mind the percentages are just my guesses of what is needed though.

Huh? We know the percentage is 40%. No need to guess on that.

[PurdueBrad]

EF, I would gladly change the sig, regardless of your vote. In fact, it will be done after this post.

[claphamsa]

but ti changes by time of day....

[PurdueBrad]

It is done EF.

[claphamsa]

oh wow, its almost 9! thats what 3hours OT does to you

[EagleFan]

Originally Posted by PurdueBrad

EF, I would gladly change the sig, regardless of your vote. In fact, it will be done after this post.

Suddenly my urge to vote for you has vanished. Unless you do something wolfish that is.

[Alan T]

Originally Posted by Passacaglia

Huh? We know the percentage is 40%. No need to guess on that.

40% is not a static number. It changes through the day. My speculation today was on what the required number would be and when. Now that we are at the 23 hour mark it is back to 40% again.

[Thomkal]

Okay then I need to vote, despite DT voting for Clap, I just don't see his actions today as very wolfy, though no one else admitting to being a programmer still makes me suspicious of him. So I will have to vote for PurdueBrad then to see if its wolves pushing a vote on Clap or not.

vote PurdueBrad

[claphamsa]

wow, im flying up the post count and imissed out on the first 4 pages of pre game posting

[DaddyTorgo]

back from dinner and all

@5:43 PM - I say Option B. Option A i can handle. Interesting insight - noted.

[henry296]

Just finished reading the day.

I'm not buying Clap as a wolf... too aggressive for this early in the game and I suspect others have computer skillls. Now that he has posted I would think someone would reply to DT as perhaps his earlier messages were cryptic.

Also not convinced on Chief Rum since the only reason given was the first vote on Kwhit.

Therefore, i think the best move of the day is to vote for PurdueBrad to learn from yesterday

[b]Vote PurdueBrad] - sorry fellow Pens fan.

[henry296]

Bad formating

Vote PurdueBrad

[DaddyTorgo]

going back to catch up

[claphamsa]

also i would like to note that i have not suspected Danny or Heinze yet this game.

[henry296]

I think the night phase lasts 6 hours after day phase ends. Lynch was 9 PM est and the two night kills were at 3 AM. For that I feel for Barkeep.

i really hope that the second kill was a mis-guided villager or else we need to make progress against the conspiracy.

[Thomkal]

well heinze isn't playing this game, so it'd be hard to suspect him.

[claphamsa]

u havent played in a while have you.....

[EagleFan]

unvote CR

vote clap

I would still rather stay with the CR vote though. PB is not pinging me so cla makes more sense with DT's suspicion at least.

[DaddyTorgo]

ok - i'm on 991. let me address this now.

it's not necessarily what you said in your PM clap. it's the fact that I have asked since you sent it if there were any other people that could corroborate your thing about "looking for other programmers".

nobody else has even said that is a part of their role, despite knowing now for more than a day that somebody is going to be lynched because of that. now if you want to say "well i'm the only programmer that knows that" i suppose that's a vague possibility, but you didn't state that in your initial PM to me.

[DaddyTorgo]

@8:50 PM - the answer to your question is no.

[DaddyTorgo]

Originally Posted by claphamsa

well i never said i was the programmer looking for other programmers till about an hour ago....

actually you told me that much much earlier

[claphamsa]

Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

ok - i'm on 991. let me address this now.

it's not necessarily what you said in your PM clap. it's the fact that I have asked since you sent it if there were any other people that could corroborate your thing about "looking for other programmers".

nobody else has even said that is a part of their role, despite knowing now for more than a day that somebody is going to be lynched because of that. now if you want to say "well i'm the only programmer that knows that" i suppose that's a vague possibility, but you didn't state that in your initial PM to me.

DT i never saw anything about a programmer getting lynched....

second off who sais they need to look for me? I jsut said i have special privileges.... that could be... unlimited pms... or something of the like, not necessarily 2 way. so no i dont think there is any reason anyone else would be looking for me.

[DaddyTorgo]

guys - i have talked to others with computer skills - nobody has said anything close to what clap said

[Passacaglia]

VOTE CLAPHAMSA

[claphamsa]

Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

actually you told me that much much earlier

yes but i just posted that it was ME publically about an hour before that post, in which i was respondent to someone.. (thromkal?)

[PurdueBrad]

I'm really selfishly hoping that some of you guys follow DT on this cause, as I've now said for a second day, I kind of want to play for awhile!

[DaddyTorgo]

i'm not suspicious of PB really though either.

let me go back and find the PM's clap sent to me to make myself feel better bout that vote.

[claphamsa]

Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

guys - i have talked to others with computer skills - nobody has said anything close to what clap said

nor have i ever said they would.... once again DT is making assumptions that hurt the village, and passing it off as damning evidence

[Alan T]

Originally Posted by Passacaglia

VOTE CLAPHAMSA

I think this likely should be the lynch vote right here.

[Barkeep49]

Vote count as of 1041:

Chief Rum: Telle (950, 3:53 PM)
Claphamsa: nfg (781, 9:21 AM) DT (923, 3:23 PM) Alan T (935, 3:31) Autumn (948, 3:46) Purdue (967, 4:58 pm) Chief (969, 6:01 PM) EF (1040, 7:49)
Purdue: path (867, 1:55) Schmidty (956 4:18 pm) Jackal (960, 4:37 pm) Danny (966 4:55 pm) NTN (991, 7:09 PM) Clap (993, 7:14 PM) Thomkal (1040, 7:41 pm) henry (1034, 7:44
Telle: BrianD (881, 2:23 PM)
nfg22: king (949, 3:51 PM)
The Jackal: Saldana (947, 3:44 PM)

[DaddyTorgo]

Originally Posted by clap

and I have special privelages with other programmers, but I dont know who they are......so fi someone tells you they are one of the programmers its good for me to know (maybe) probably wont matter

no other programmers have said anything about special privelages

[claphamsa]

Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

i'm not suspicious of PB really though either.

let me go back and find the PM's clap sent to me to make myself feel better bout that vote.

please post it for all to see, since i have already done so. then you can stop making insane inferences from it.