2011-12 NHL Regular Season Thread - Page 13

Pumpy Tudors · 12-05-2011, 11:28 PM

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Ok. I'll bite.

Why no mention of Marty Brodeur? Is it because you find him so attractive that just uttering or typing his name makes your entire body quiver?

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Originally Posted by EagleFan

Like a Penguins fan would know what a tough guy is...

I don't know how I missed this before. I have no words.

MizzouRah · 12-05-2011, 11:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Fidatelo

I love the new realignment. That is all.

I do as well.

chadritt · 12-05-2011, 11:49 PM

Wont they have to come up with a whole new realignment after Phoenix moves? I mean....im assuming that if Atlanta had to move then so will Phoenix.

SackAttack · 12-06-2011, 01:28 AM

*Looks at score of Panthers/Caps*

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*waves little rubber rat by the tail*

Suburban Rhythm · 12-06-2011, 07:03 AM

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Originally Posted by chadritt

Wont they have to come up with a whole new realignment after Phoenix moves? I mean....im assuming that if Atlanta had to move then so will Phoenix.

Just a guess, but I wonder if that is being taken into account.

The fact that the "East" has the two 7-team divisions, and the "West" owners agreed to it, says to me that most expect Phoenix to move...and head East (Quebec? Hamilton?)...thus balancing a 7- and 8-team division in each region.

My question is still the matchups for what would be now called the conference finals, and the SCF. Will it be A&B and C&D?

Suburban Rhythm · 12-06-2011, 07:04 AM

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Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

Woot - Bruins!!

Pens did have too many chances...and when they did, Thomas was there.

Still would love to see 7 of those two teams, both healthy, in the ECF.

RomaGoth · 12-06-2011, 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Pyser

I'm thinking about it more, and i really want to know what is terrible about this

After looking it over a bit more, it's not as bad as I originally believed.

However, I wish the Wings would have been put in a conference with Toronto, I really miss that rivalry.

This will definitely help tv ratings and cut down travel, and it will be nice to see teams every year instead of every other year.

DaddyTorgo · 12-06-2011, 09:53 AM

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Pens did have too many chances...and when they did, Thomas was there.

Still would love to see 7 of those two teams, both healthy, in the ECF.

It was a great game. I was frankly surprised by the way the Bruins were able to effectively shut down Crosby + Malkin. Those two 5-on-3 PP's were absolutely phenomenal...although pretty ticky-tacky in terms of some of the calls that led to them (from what I recall).

The Boston morning sports radio guys came up with a goofy stunt for their phonescreener guy...they're going to make him camp out with the Occupy Boston folks until the Bruins lose a regulation-time game. Haha.

Honolulu_Blue · 12-06-2011, 09:54 AM

I really like the realignment plan.

From a Wings perspective it's going to cut down on travel and there will be a lot fewer 10:30 pm EST west coast start times.

Coming out of the lockout in 2005, the NHL tried to re-kindle rivalries by having a team play every other team in its division 8 times or something very close to that. It was a good idea in theory, but totally fizzled. The divisional games became a grind and it really didn't do much for the rivalries. The reason is, of course, is that rivalries are made in playoffs series. That's where the real passion, emotion and hate are born. So, having to face the same teams every year could do wonders there.

It will be interesting to see what they do with the third round of the playoffs.

Suburban Rhythm · 12-06-2011, 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

It was a great game. I was frankly surprised by the way the Bruins were able to effectively shut down Crosby + Malkin. Those two 5-on-3 PP's were absolutely phenomenal...although pretty ticky-tacky in terms of some of the calls that led to them (from what I recall).

The Boston morning sports radio guys came up with a goofy stunt for their phonescreener guy...they're going to make him camp out with the Occupy Boston folks until the Bruins lose a regulation-time game. Haha.

Welcome to the world of NHL officiating. The first penalty of the game, Dupuis tugging on Chara's jersey...I am wondering if Chara still isn't sure what happened there because he didn't feel anything. But later on the in the game, you can have full 5-on-5 scrums in front of the net, with no calls.

The 5-on-3 PPs...I try not to question coaching in general, and moreso in hockey because it's so fluid. But 1) why in the world is Crosby on the point? Look at all his goals-- they are garbage plays from 5 feet and in and 2) Why are Malkin and Crosby on the point together, so they can pass the puck back and forth? The other 3 guys are standing around.

They miss Letang-- he'd miss the net by 4 feet, but at least he'd open things up by shooting.

DaddyTorgo · 12-06-2011, 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Suburban Rhythm

Welcome to the world of NHL officiating. The first penalty of the game, Dupuis tugging on Chara's jersey...I am wondering if Chara still isn't sure what happened there because he didn't feel anything. But later on the in the game, you can have full 5-on-5 scrums in front of the net, with no calls.

The 5-on-3 PPs...I try not to question coaching in general, and moreso in hockey because it's so fluid. But 1) why in the world is Crosby on the point? Look at all his goals-- they are garbage plays from 5 feet and in and 2) Why are Malkin and Crosby on the point together, so they can pass the puck back and forth? The other 3 guys are standing around.

They miss Letang-- he'd miss the net by 4 feet, but at least he'd open things up by shooting.

Oh yeah, I know. NHL officiating is no better than any other (well okay, it's better than NBA!). But at least one of those seemed...very questionable that there wasn't an offsetting penalty on the Penguins guy (I guess it was the second 5-on-3).

Yeah...the Bruins TV guys were wondering the same thing about having Crosby + Malkin on the point...didn't seem to create any chances.

That said - Thomas is in the frigging zone right now. Wow.

Young Drachma · 12-06-2011, 10:49 AM

I like the new realignment plan. I just wonder what they're going to call the new ~~divisions~~ conferences and whether they'll owe to history or just stick to geography. (I'm guessing the latter.)

Doug5984 · 12-06-2011, 10:50 AM

Team Conference Realignment! (I like it- quite a bit)

Fidatelo · 12-06-2011, 01:02 PM

I hope they use the old division names (Adams, Patrick, Smythe, and Norris) for these "conferences". Then I hope they always make the Adams winner play the Patrick winner for the Prince of Wales trophy and the Smythe play the Norris for the Campbell trophy. Finally, the winners of those trophies play each other for the Stanley Cup.

Pumpy Tudors · 12-06-2011, 01:34 PM

I would prefer that Gary Bettman just vote after the regular season on which two teams get to play for the Stanley Cup.

RomaGoth · 12-06-2011, 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Pumpy Tudors

I would prefer that Gary Bettman just vote after the regular season on which two teams get to play for the Stanley Cup.

Pittsburgh vs. Chicago every year? No thanks.

Honolulu_Blue · 12-06-2011, 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Pumpy Tudors

I'm glad that I've never had to worry about my team's goaltending. The Devils have had legitimate starting goaltending for over 20 years now. Sean Burke, Chris Terreri, John Vanbiesbrouck, Kevin Weekes, Johan Hedberg, Scott Clemmensen, etc. I've always liked New Jersey's chances.

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Honolulu_Blue · 12-06-2011, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by HiFiRevival

Tootoo get's a 2 game suspension. What a complete fucking joke. Shanahan is Colin Campbell already. Jordin Tootoo of Nashville Predators suspended 2 games for hit on Buffalo Sabres' Ryan Miller - ESPN

Hrm.

I think 2 games sounds about right.

Miller comes back from his first game after suffering a concussion from being run by Lucic on what was a pretty controversial hit that many GMs thought was suspension worthy.

Tootoo cuts into Miller's crease, charges Miller and dives at his head.

Miller was in his crease, not out playing the puck some 30 feet away.

Shanny had no choice but to suspend him.

I have no issue with this at all.

cuervo72 · 12-06-2011, 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Fidatelo

I hope they use the old division names (Adams, Patrick, Smythe, and Norris) for these "conferences". Then I hope they always make the Adams winner play the Patrick winner for the Prince of Wales trophy and the Smythe play the Norris for the Campbell trophy. Finally, the winners of those trophies play each other for the Stanley Cup.

Pretty much agreed here. It's like they decided they made a mistake with the last realignment, and didn't quite want to admit it, so they decided to call the divisions conferences to make it seem different.

*shurg* - as long as it's closer to the old way (which might get me to watch more NHL).

Draft Dodger · 12-06-2011, 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by HiFiRevival

Tootoo is a repeat offender on shots to the head. It should have been in the 20 game suspension realm. 2 games is nothing.

meh. Tootoo is a loser, but I think 2 games is about right for that hit

Fidatelo · 12-06-2011, 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by HiFiRevival

Except for the part where the NHL has stressed that suspensions are longer for repeat offenders. Maybe that "rule" only applies to Ovechkin.

Fidatelo · 12-06-2011, 09:50 PM

I'm streaming the NESN feed of the Jets/Bruins game right now, and I gotta say, whoever the play-by-play guy is, he's really good! In fact the coverage in general is just very solid. And their cameras caught a fan drinking from a flask in the stands, which was pretty awesome

Dr. Sak · 12-06-2011, 09:54 PM

You like Jack Edwards?

DaddyTorgo · 12-06-2011, 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Fidatelo

I'm streaming the NESN feed of the Jets/Bruins game right now, and I gotta say, whoever the play-by-play guy is, he's really good! In fact the coverage in general is just very solid. And their cameras caught a fan drinking from a flask in the stands, which was pretty awesome

Jack Edwards makes us Boston folk want to stab our eardrums out.

I'm surprised that Winnipeg is beating the Bruins. Not that I don't think Winnipeg is good or anything...but the Bruins are playing so well I would have thought it would take a team playing at a whole nother level to beat Boston right now, and while Winnipeg is playing well it's not SUPERHUMAN or anything. Then again...3 games in 4 nights they gotta be beat.

DaddyTorgo · 12-06-2011, 10:03 PM

Kudos to Winnipeg. Pavlek was a beast.

Fidatelo · 12-06-2011, 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr. Sak

You like Jack Edwards?

Apparently I do!

molson · 12-06-2011, 10:12 PM

I love that all the Boston sports media types I remember from the 80s are pretty much all still there. When I was in town over Thanksgiving Mike Dowling and Mike Lynch talking on a Patriots pre-game. Jack Edwards is like a nerdier, poor man's Mike Dowling.

Dr. Sak · 12-06-2011, 10:14 PM

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Apparently I do!

God Bless you my Canadian friend. That's like saying you like Maxwell House coffee instead of Tim Hortons.

samifan24 · 12-06-2011, 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr. Sak

You like Jack Edwards?

I'm a Bruins fan and I don't hate Jack but I do have to shake my head at the things he says at least two or three times a game. He's a homer, yes, but a really nerdy one.

MizzouRah · 12-07-2011, 12:13 AM

Anytime we can beat Detroit, I'm a happy man!

Grover · 12-07-2011, 12:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Dr. Sak

You like Jack Edwards?

lol. Most over the top commentator in all of sports.

SackAttack · 12-07-2011, 12:54 AM

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Originally Posted by HiFiRevival

I love the rat thing. I can't believe something that seems like a legitimate hockey quirk exists in Florida.

Kind of a neat story behind it, too. Mellanby one-timed a rat off the dressing room wall in '96, then went out and scored two goals in the game that night. I believe it was John Vanbiesbrouck who dubbed that a "rat trick," and, well...now you know the rest...of the story.

RomaGoth · 12-07-2011, 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by MizzouRah

Anytime we can beat Detroit, I'm a happy man!

The Wings are so streaky this year it is frustrating.

Suburban Rhythm · 12-07-2011, 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Dr. Sak

You like Jack Edwards?

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Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

Jack Edwards makes us Boston folk want to stab our eardrums out.

I'm surprised that Winnipeg is beating the Bruins. Not that I don't think Winnipeg is good or anything...but the Bruins are playing so well I would have thought it would take a team playing at a whole nother level to beat Boston right now, and while Winnipeg is playing well it's not SUPERHUMAN or anything. Then again...3 games in 4 nights they gotta be beat.

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Apparently I do!

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God Bless you my Canadian friend. That's like saying you like Maxwell House coffee instead of Tim Hortons.

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I'm a Bruins fan and I don't hate Jack but I do have to shake my head at the things he says at least two or three times a game. He's a homer, yes, but a really nerdy one.

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lol. Most over the top commentator in all of sports.

I found myself Monday night during the Pens-B's game, wishing there was a way to simulcast Jack on the NESN feed and Steigy on the ROOTPIT feed into one giant clusterfuck.

Suburban Rhythm · 12-07-2011, 09:45 AM

DOLA

From that game, his call during Campbell-Vitale...

Edit: Screw embedding!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_6WCkSL3I0c

Not sure which part I like best. The "using him as a speed bag" while Campbell is swinging at air, or the "big left" by Vitale at the end.

Honolulu_Blue · 12-07-2011, 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Suburban Rhythm

DOLA

From that game, his call during Campbell-Vitale...

Edit: Screw embedding!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_6WCkSL3I0c

Not sure which part I like best. The "using him as a speed bag" while Campbell is swinging at air, or the "big left" by Vitale at the end.

I think my favorite is "this Northeastern Husky is going to look like one ugly dog."

Suburban Rhythm · 12-07-2011, 10:00 AM

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I think my favorite is "this Northeastern Husky is going to look like one ugly dog."

This is where I'll give Edwards a nod-- he's really prepared, especially in comparison to a bum like Steigerwald. He's not a total homer in the sense it's a Globetrotters-Generals game, that the other team is a necessary evil to allow the Bruins to play the game.

Suburban Rhythm · 12-07-2011, 05:02 PM

Crosby sitting out @ Philly Thursday and @ Islanders Saturday as a "precaution"

Grover · 12-07-2011, 05:11 PM

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Crosby sitting out @ Philly Thursday and @ Islanders Saturday as a "precaution"

Hope he's alright. I'd much rather face the Pens with him in the lineup.

Draft Dodger · 12-07-2011, 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Suburban Rhythm

This is where I'll give Edwards a nod-- he's really prepared, especially in comparison to a bum like Steigerwald. He's not a total homer in the sense it's a Globetrotters-Generals game, that the other team is a necessary evil to allow the Bruins to play the game.

he is very prepared and calls a very accurate game (which is, sadly, a bit of a rarity these days). And he's extremely energetic - really gets caught up in the game. Yes, he goes over the top and he's a brutal homer but I would rather listen to him than a large percentage of pbp guys.

Grover · 12-07-2011, 07:35 PM

Edwards is at his absolute worst when calling games that are against either Montreal or Philadelphia. He does not hide his hatred for either team.

Exhibit A. Yes, this was after Jones had injured Bergeron. Edwards' reaction was completely unwarranted though.

Galaxy · 12-07-2011, 08:43 PM

Not a fan of the realignment plan and the playoff setup.

Grover · 12-07-2011, 09:15 PM

Claude Giroux, I love you.

Dr. Sak · 12-07-2011, 09:18 PM

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Claude Giroux, I love you.

+1

Dr. Sak · 12-07-2011, 09:35 PM

I can't wait till John Steigerwald writes a story tomorrow on how Claude Giroux is on steroids.

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Fidatelo Pro Starter Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Winnipeg, MB	I hope they use the old division names (Adams, Patrick, Smythe, and Norris) for these "conferences". Then I hope they always make the Adams winner play the Patrick winner for the Prince of Wales trophy and the Smythe play the Norris for the Campbell trophy. Finally, the winners of those trophies play each other for the Stanley Cup. __________________ "Breakfast? Breakfast schmekfast, look at the score for God's sake. It's only the second period and I'm winning 12-2. Breakfasts come and go, Rene, but Hartford, the Whale, they only beat Vancouver maybe once or twice in a lifetime."

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Pumpy Tudors Bounty Hunter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Pittsburgh, PA	I would prefer that Gary Bettman just vote after the regular season on which two teams get to play for the Stanley Cup. __________________ No, I am not Batman, and I will not repair your food processor.

12-06-2011, 09:50 PM	#627
Fidatelo Pro Starter Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Winnipeg, MB	I'm streaming the NESN feed of the Jets/Bruins game right now, and I gotta say, whoever the play-by-play guy is, he's really good! In fact the coverage in general is just very solid. And their cameras caught a fan drinking from a flask in the stands, which was pretty awesome __________________ "Breakfast? Breakfast schmekfast, look at the score for God's sake. It's only the second period and I'm winning 12-2. Breakfasts come and go, Rene, but Hartford, the Whale, they only beat Vancouver maybe once or twice in a lifetime."

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chadritt High School Varsity Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Los Angeles, CA	Wont they have to come up with a whole new realignment after Phoenix moves? I mean....im assuming that if Atlanta had to move then so will Phoenix.

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SackAttack Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Green Bay, WI	Looks at score of Panthers/Caps ... waves little rubber rat by the tail

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Doug5984 College Benchwarmer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Louisiana	Team Conference Realignment! (I like it- quite a bit)

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Dr. Sak Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Stuck in Yinzerville, PA	You like Jack Edwards?

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DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	Kudos to Winnipeg. Pavlek was a beast.

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molson General Manager Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: The Mountains	I love that all the Boston sports media types I remember from the 80s are pretty much all still there. When I was in town over Thanksgiving Mike Dowling and Mike Lynch talking on a Patriots pre-game. Jack Edwards is like a nerdier, poor man's Mike Dowling. Last edited by molson : 12-06-2011 at 10:16 PM.

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MizzouRah Hall Of Famer Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Troy, Mo	Anytime we can beat Detroit, I'm a happy man!

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Suburban Rhythm Pro Starter Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Pittsburgh	DOLA From that game, his call during Campbell-Vitale... www.youtube.com</a> http:>Gregory Campbell Fights Joe Vitale Much to Jack Edwards' Delight - YouTube" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen> Edit: Screw embedding! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_6WCkSL3I0c Not sure which part I like best. The "using him as a speed bag" while Campbell is swinging at air, or the "big left" by Vitale at the end. __________________ "Do you guys play fast tempos with odd time signatures?" "Yeah" "Cool!!" Last edited by Suburban Rhythm : 12-07-2011 at 09:46 AM.

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Suburban Rhythm Pro Starter Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Pittsburgh	Crosby sitting out @ Philly Thursday and @ Islanders Saturday as a "precaution" __________________ "Do you guys play fast tempos with odd time signatures?" "Yeah" "Cool!!"

12-07-2011, 07:35 PM	#646
Grover Pro Starter Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Lisboa, ME	Edwards is at his absolute worst when calling games that are against either Montreal or Philadelphia. He does not hide his hatred for either team. Exhibit A. Yes, this was after Jones had injured Bergeron. Edwards' reaction was completely unwarranted though. __________________ Come On You Irons! West Ham United \| Philadelphia Flyers \| Cincinnati Bengals \| Kansas City Royals FOFC Greatest Band Draft Runner Up FOFC Movie Remake Draft Winner FOFC Movie Comedy Draft Winner

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