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Old 02-14-2013, 03:57 PM   #901
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Old 02-16-2013, 01:55 PM   #902
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Old 02-16-2013, 02:04 PM   #903
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Old 02-16-2013, 02:10 PM   #904
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The FA Cup competition is the shit. Three Championship sides thru to the quarterfinals thus far and Oldham fights another day.
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Old 02-16-2013, 04:58 PM   #905
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Great goal from Totti today.
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Old 02-16-2013, 05:00 PM   #906
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Great goal from Totti today.

It was - I have to admit
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Old 02-19-2013, 09:30 PM   #907
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Stat of the now, showing how ridiculous prices have gotten in England:

Tickets for Arsenal's Champions League game today against Bayern: 96 Pounds.
Season Tickets for Bayern Munich: 94 pounds.

So it cost more for one game at Arsenal then it does for 17 or more games at Bayern.
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Old 02-20-2013, 07:59 AM   #908
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Where are the seats located? How do the costs compare to other teams in the same countries?
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Old 02-20-2013, 08:07 AM   #909
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@ sovereign : Bayern is in general the most expensive in Germany (but those season tickets are standing room in the classic "fan section" behind one goal, basically itīs where you go if you are either in a fan club or a young guy not minding close quarters and be right in the thick of things)

And the difference definitely isnīt that extreme, but from what i can gather on average tickets for EPL matches are about twice as expensive as Bundesliga tickets. The lack of standing room tickets (which still make up around 20 - 30 % of most germany stadiums) is part of the reason obviously, since those are lowering the average a lot here (are about 50% cheaper than the cheapest seats)

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Stat of the now, showing how ridiculous prices have gotten in England:

Tickets for Arsenal's Champions League game today against Bayern: 96 Pounds.

Season Tickets for Bayern Munich: 94 pounds.

So it cost more for one game at Arsenal then it does for 17 or more games at Bayern.

were those tickets the lowest available category ? (even the most expensive tickets at the 2nd leg in munich will be less expensive though, i think itīs about 70 pound)

On the matches played by the german teams so far :

Dortmund caught a break in Donezk with the home team basically coming straight from their winter break, but still a 2:2 without 2 very important pieces (Subotic and Gundogan) was a good result.

Bayern with a stellar game, imo they are a big time favourite to win it all as they are an even better team than last year. Martinez is amazing, the way he kills the opositions game in midfield is special. Guy seems to be everywhere and win every tough challenge (and then knows what to do with the ball).
Schweinsteiger and him in the centre of the midfield are going to be really, really good.
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Old 02-20-2013, 10:17 AM   #910
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With regards to ticket prices at Arsenal - not quite the whole picture for most matches there are tickets for 25UKP available and even lower (10/11UKP) for kids, senior citizens and suchlike.

Season tickets ARE extortionate at Arsenal and most UK clubs because they guarantee you tickets for the biggest matches where you're in a lottery to get in otherwise (most of the big teams all are in the nice situation where they can largely charge whatever they want and guarantee selling out regularly).

(please note if you're not an Arsenal 'fan' then you'll pay more - not by a huge amount though, a premium of around 10UKP per ticket)

While this is far more expensive than it used to be, its still somewhat cheaper than going to watch Orlando Magic ...

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Old 02-20-2013, 03:33 PM   #911
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would it be fair to call todays result in Milan "shocking"?
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Old 02-20-2013, 03:52 PM   #912
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would it be fair to call todays result in Milan "shocking"?

Shocking yes, but it's far from over. I can easily see Barca putting 3-4 past Milan at the Nou Camp and then nobody will remember the first leg.

It'd be nice if they went out though - make the road a little smoother for Juve.
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Old 02-20-2013, 04:28 PM   #913
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USA midfielder and yellow card magnet Jermaine Jones scored for Schalke against Galatasaray today.

Milan

Good first legs for Serie A and the Bundesliga, not so much for La Liga.
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Old 02-20-2013, 09:11 PM   #914
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Old 02-20-2013, 09:26 PM   #915
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Old 02-21-2013, 04:00 PM   #916
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This might have been the most frustrating game ever tobeatch from chelsea...so many chancrs and no one ever just takes a rip...they keep looking for one more little pass and end up with nothing.

If it hadn't been for a great tackle by cahill and the rip shot by Hazard (exactly what no one elae on the pitch was doing) I might have busted the remote into the fireplace
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Old 02-21-2013, 04:03 PM   #917
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Well, Torres took a few shots, they just weren't anywhere near the goal.

At this point I'm mostly waiting for next year, when we should have multiple useful strikers and a competent manager.
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Old 02-23-2013, 07:08 AM   #918
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Old 02-24-2013, 08:27 AM   #919
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My god, having Gus Johnson do the City/Chelsea match today is a fucking travesty.
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Old 02-24-2013, 08:47 AM   #920
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My god, having Gus Johnson do the City/Chelsea match today is a fucking travesty.

I just can't make up my mind if he will ever pull it off. I don't think he will. Just doesn't suit him really I don't think. Although, I don't think he's as bad as some are saying.
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Old 02-24-2013, 09:05 AM   #921
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I'm rooting for Chelsea to get something just to make the gap 14 or 15 points at the top but if a Chelsea loss helps them finish fifth or worse that's okay too I guess.
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Old 02-24-2013, 09:28 AM   #922
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My god, having Gus Johnson do the City/Chelsea match today is a fucking travesty.

Fuck Fox. Couldn't be more happy that they are losing the Premier League next season now.
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Old 02-24-2013, 10:03 AM   #923
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Fuck Fox. Couldn't be more happy that they are losing the Premier League next season now.

I haven't kept up, but it's going to NBC Sports, is that right?
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Old 02-24-2013, 10:32 AM   #924
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Old 02-24-2013, 11:55 AM   #925
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Old 02-25-2013, 12:10 PM   #926
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Italian FA, UEFA, FIFA, anybody going to do something about the abuse Balotelli is taking or are you going to wait until he goes "Catona" on someone and then condemn him for not continuing to take the abuse?
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Old 02-26-2013, 12:05 PM   #927
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Thankfully they fined Balotelli. That should fix it.
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Old 03-05-2013, 01:05 PM   #928
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Old 03-05-2013, 01:20 PM   #929
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Rooney not starting today. What?
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Old 03-05-2013, 02:16 PM   #930
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Old 03-05-2013, 03:38 PM   #931
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Old 03-05-2013, 03:45 PM   #932
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I can't believe Nani got a red card for that. What a horrible way to go out, things were looking good before that absurd call changed the game.

It's hard enough to beat Real Madrid without shit like that happening.
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Old 03-05-2013, 03:51 PM   #933
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I can't have any complaints about the red card, it was clearly dangerous play. There was no intent, but you need to know where the other players are when you stick your leg out like that.

FWIW Roy Keane agrees with me in the UK post match analysis.
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Old 03-05-2013, 03:51 PM   #934
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I literally switched on the game after the challenge but before Nani got up. Saw the replay they showed and thought WTF? However, watching the other angles in the post match analysis, I can see why he got red: you could only see that he half pulled out from the one angle, and from the refs POV it looked terrible and red all day long.

He was maybe unlucky, but from what the ref would have seen it's red every day of the week
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Old 03-05-2013, 03:51 PM   #935
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I can't believe Nani got a red card for that. What a horrible way to go out, things were looking good before that absurd call changed the game.

It's hard enough to beat Real Madrid without shit like that happening.

I agree it was a harsh call but that foot was REALLY high. I mean chest level almost right into his chest. I can see somebody at full speed thinking wow that looked bad.
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Howard Webb wouldn't have sent Nani off.
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Never thought I'd write this, but I though Ronaldo made a classy move after his goal by not celebrating it heavily.
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Old 03-05-2013, 04:05 PM   #938
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FWIW Roy Keane agrees with me in the UK post match analysis.

Must be as good at punditry as he was at management.
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Old 03-05-2013, 04:32 PM   #939
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Never thought I'd write this, but I though Ronaldo made a classy move after his goal by not celebrating it heavily.


+1...

I wa thinking at first, "wow he doesn't look that excited", but then I realized he was trying not to show up MU..
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Old 03-06-2013, 02:58 AM   #940
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The kick to the chest looks so bad, but i must agree that a red card was probably too harsh, as Nani was looking at the ball and not noticing Arbeloa was running towards it too so it was not intentional.

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Old 03-06-2013, 06:17 AM   #941
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The kick to the chest looks so bad, but i must agree that a red card was probably too harsh, as Nani was looking at the ball and not noticing Arbeloa was running towards it too so it was not intentional.


Not sure why everybody is worried about the intention? Simple fact is find me that in the rules. It was wreckless. I would have given yellow but I think the official was well within reason to go red. I know everybody is upset at how it impacted the game but I don't see it as all that controversial of a red card.
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Old 03-06-2013, 06:52 AM   #942
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It looks like a karate kick to the chest. He had to go, intent or not.
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Old 03-06-2013, 07:08 AM   #943
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You could say it was a reckless high foot, that would make it a yellow card. It's only red if Nani uses "excessive force" which clearly did not happen imo since he just had his foot up, it wasn't like Nani kicked Arbeloa or anything.

Straight from FIFA's website on the interpretation of Law 12 (Fouls and Misconduct): fifa.com

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“Careless” means that the player has shown a lack of attention or
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• A player who uses excessive force must be sent off

That is careless or reckless, should have either been just a foul or a yellow.
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You could say it was a reckless high foot, that would make it a yellow card. It's only red if Nani uses "excessive force" which clearly did not happen imo since he just had his foot up, it wasn't like Nani kicked Arbeloa or anything.

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That is careless or reckless, should have either been just a foul or a yellow.

Even on the video above, the side angle looks like careless/reckless, but the angle from behind, which was roughly the ref's angle, looks like excessive force: you can't see the leg soften on impact and it looks like Nani goes straight through Arbeloa

ManU are not my team, and i always an English team to beat a foreign team, but I don't think it could be said to be wrong for a red. It is a case for video evidence though, as i think it probably would have been yellow if the ref had seen the side angle
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Old 03-06-2013, 09:20 AM   #945
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You could say it was a reckless high foot, that would make it a yellow card. It's only red if Nani uses "excessive force" which clearly did not happen imo since he just had his foot up, it wasn't like Nani kicked Arbeloa or anything.

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That is careless or reckless, should have either been just a foul or a yellow.

it says he must be cautioned...it doesnt say he cant be sent off.

i gotta say, considering how many cards are handed out and penalties given on questionable calls that FAVOR MU, i think it is kind of funny to watch all the whining that is going on right now...if anyone had launched a karate kick like that at rooney, all the people that are crying now would be screaming for a 3 game ban!!!
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Old 03-06-2013, 05:26 PM   #946
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Old 03-06-2013, 10:13 PM   #947
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It looks like a karate kick to the chest. He had to go, intent or not.

I would have to agree.
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Old 03-06-2013, 10:17 PM   #948
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I hate defending united but that isn't a red. You have to take into account intent and it clearly wasnt there. And Keane would say the sky is green if SAF said it was blue. That means less than nothing.

The handball on the line does probably even things up however.
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Old 03-08-2013, 09:26 PM   #949
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