Soccer Thread 2012-13 - Page 22

DaddyTorgo · 03-26-2013, 09:22 PM

Prediction: 2-1 Mexico win.

Anything better than that would be GREAT. Anything worse is...quite possible. I could see 3-0 or 3-1.

And yes - I was typing that before the announcers brought it up.

GrantDawg · 03-26-2013, 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by PilotMan

It's on! Of course, I'm pessimistic. I would be happy with a close game, and a good showing, even if we lose tonight. A 1-1, or 0-0 would be a win. Very scared with the back line. But maybe we will find a diamond in the rough back there.

That is where I am at. I am afraid of a 3 goal loss. Anything close would be great.

DaddyTorgo · 03-26-2013, 09:29 PM

I think that with the poor weather Costa Rica wasn't able to exploit the fact that the US backline were all strangers to each other. Mexico will have no such problem - their offensive movement on and off the ball is so much better than Costa Rica...

sovereignstar v2 · 03-26-2013, 09:31 PM

They just finished blaring this over the loudspeakers at the Azteca.

PilotMan · 03-26-2013, 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

I think that with the poor weather Costa Rica wasn't able to exploit the fact that the US backline were all strangers to each other. Mexico will have no such problem - their offensive movement on and off the ball is so much better than Costa Rica...

Well yeah, and there isn't snow to slow everyone down. Beasley at the back is ok in the snow, but he will be horribly exposed tonight.

DaddyTorgo · 03-26-2013, 09:38 PM

Wow - the away team in this series hasn't won a qualifier in 41 years? YIKES. I didn't realize it was THAT bad.

DaddyTorgo · 03-26-2013, 09:39 PM

Shit foul Beasley. Nice. That was damn close to a PK...

kingfc22 · 03-26-2013, 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by PilotMan

Well yeah, and there isn't snow to slow everyone down. Beasley at the back is ok in the snow, but he will be horribly exposed tonight.

Right on cue.

PilotMan · 03-26-2013, 09:49 PM

I like that the commentators are clear homers and that there is one of each. Kinda like watching WWF back in the day with Bobby Heenan and Gene Okerlund.

DaddyTorgo · 03-26-2013, 09:49 PM

Why is ding-dong calling him Matt Beasley? Oh...he's confusing Biesler and Beasley...that makes sense then.

DaddyTorgo · 03-26-2013, 09:51 PM

Another yellow.

IlliniCub · 03-26-2013, 09:51 PM

I agree Pilotman I was just thinking the same thing, I'm waiting to hear the headset slam and then see the Mexican commentator trip a US player at a crucial moment.

Crapshoot · 03-26-2013, 09:51 PM

That was a penalty. US got a break there.

DaddyTorgo · 03-26-2013, 09:54 PM

Man this US team misses Stuart Holden.

Crapshoot · 03-26-2013, 09:54 PM

Btw, I assume everyone here follows Jorge Arangure, but this stunned me:

Jorge Arangure ‏@jorgearangure 25m
Fascinating stat: Chicharito has never scored v US and Dempsey has never scored v Mexico.

Crapshoot · 03-26-2013, 09:57 PM

Holy shit, that was a free header - who the hell was covering him? That has to be a goal for Mexico - horrible mess.

kingfc22 · 03-26-2013, 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by PilotMan

I like that the commentators are clear homers and that there is one of each. Kinda like watching WWF back in the day with Bobby Heenan and Gene Okerlund.

I also like how the Mexican announcer is on the field.

DaddyTorgo · 03-26-2013, 09:59 PM

Yellow coming for Edu for that?

Lucky break that wasn't a goal.

Crapshoot · 03-26-2013, 10:00 PM

That's another goal where the Mexicans have somehow missed from less than 6 yards out. That can't last, can it?

kingfc22 · 03-26-2013, 10:01 PM

US is getting beaten badly out on the wings.

Crapshoot · 03-26-2013, 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by kingfc22

US is getting beaten badly out on the wings.

I know Beasley is nowhere near a first-choice LB, but is his pace enough to make up for his complete lack of defensive awareness?

DaddyTorgo · 03-26-2013, 10:09 PM

Man this team just can't hold onto the ball for any length of time - this is gonna get ugly.

kingfc22 · 03-26-2013, 10:15 PM

Nice work by Guzan there.

DaddyTorgo · 03-26-2013, 10:15 PM

damnit Clint - you can't let that run out of play...

PilotMan · 03-26-2013, 10:18 PM

0-0 is a win for the half.

Easy Mac · 03-26-2013, 10:19 PM

Probably better he did. 90 seconds left before extra time. You lay out and play it straight to Mexico and they're probably breaking, as not only is Demsey out of tr play, but so is Edu, Altidore and Zusi.

DaddyTorgo · 03-26-2013, 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Easy Mac

Probably better he did. 90 seconds left before extra time. You lay out and play it straight to Mexico and they're probably breaking, as not only is Demsey out of tr play, but so is Edu, Altidore and Zusi.

fair point i suppose

Crapshoot · 03-26-2013, 10:21 PM

It feels like the US attack consists of Altidore by himself, with Dempsey playing behind him in the hope that he can create something, with 8 other guys behind the ball (Bradley's run aside)

Easy Mac · 03-26-2013, 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

fair point i suppose

And believe me, I was wanting him to lay out if only because it was probably the best chance of the half.

DaddyTorgo · 03-26-2013, 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Easy Mac

And believe me, I was wanting him to lay out if only because it was probably the best chance of the half.

Only reason I was hoping for something. Other than that, and that one ball in to Bradley in the box, it was a pretty dismal half for the US offensively.

Easy Mac · 03-26-2013, 10:29 PM

I was surprised to see Bradley get the ball taken from him in the middle of the half. I honestly don't think I've seen that in years. He's probably the only guy tonight who I haven't seen make at least 1 hideous pass.

Beasley is out of his depth tonight. The center is holding nicely, but the marking on spot kicks is severely lacking.

Zusi disappears for loooooong stretches.

It's pretty clear the US has zero interest in even attempting to push or press in the attacking half. It's dangerous , because it lets Mexico constantly pressure the defense and Bradley/Edu whenever we knock it around. Back there.

Crapshoot · 03-26-2013, 10:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Easy Mac

I was surprised to see Bradley get the ball taken from him in the middle of the half. I honestly don't think I've seen that in years. He's probably the only guy tonight who I haven't seen make at least 1 hideous pass.

Beasley is out of his depth tonight. The center is holding nicely, but the marking on spot kicks is severely lacking.

Zusi disappears for loooooong stretches.

It's pretty clear the US has zero interest in even attempting to push or press in the attacking half. It's dangerous , because it lets Mexico constantly pressure the defense and Bradley/Edu whenever we knock it around. Back there.

Agree. Beasley has looked like a sieve. The US looked better towards the end but needs to string more than 3 passes together.

rowech · 03-26-2013, 10:35 PM

I guess for me, I would say the US just needs to defend the crosses and wings better. Don't care too much about the offense really as a 0-0 tie is good enough for me.

DaddyTorgo · 03-26-2013, 10:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Easy Mac

I was surprised to see Bradley get the ball taken from him in the middle of the half. I honestly don't think I've seen that in years. He's probably the only guy tonight who I haven't seen make at least 1 hideous pass.

Beasley is out of his depth tonight. The center is holding nicely, but the marking on spot kicks is severely lacking.

Zusi disappears for loooooong stretches.

It's pretty clear the US has zero interest in even attempting to push or press in the attacking half. It's dangerous , because it lets Mexico constantly pressure the defense and Bradley/Edu whenever we knock it around. Back there.

Interestingly, it's also contrary to what Jurgen was saying they were going to do before the game.

Easy Mac · 03-26-2013, 10:41 PM

Can someone tell Edu to not dribble out of the back.

Also, is Altidore on the wing now? Seems odd.

DaddyTorgo · 03-26-2013, 10:41 PM

All of our giveaways are on passes that we shouldn't be giving the ball away on either...they're not aggressive passes trying to make something happen, they're usually errant back-passes or square balls (yes, under some degree of pressure, but still).

Crapshoot · 03-26-2013, 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Easy Mac

Can someone tell Edu to not dribble out of the back.

Also, is Altidore on the wing now? Seems odd.

Grant Wahl says Altidore has moved left, Gomez to the center. I don't understand why the target man is playing on the wing either.

PilotMan · 03-26-2013, 10:42 PM

This game is about to break open.

DaddyTorgo · 03-26-2013, 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Crapshoot

Grant Wahl says Altidore has moved left, Gomez to the center. I don't understand why the target man is playing on the wing either.

It's the Jurgen Klinsman era, who the fuck knows.

kingfc22 · 03-26-2013, 10:44 PM

We seriously don't have another option at LB?!?

DaddyTorgo · 03-26-2013, 10:44 PM

Eddie Johnson probably coming on for Altidore then I'd assume?

Seems an odd choice - Jozy hasn't played bad at all I don't think. In fact, his holding up of the ball was actually being beneficial.

Disagree with Twellman's analysis - how is Altidore supposed to "get involved" when his team can't string more than 3 passes together? Everytime they got him the ball he held it up fine and got others involved.

kingfc22 · 03-26-2013, 10:45 PM

Errrr....Eddie Johnson. Really Jurgen?

SirFozzie · 03-26-2013, 10:47 PM

Wow. Panama 2, Honduras 0. This group is wideeeeeeee open.

Easy Mac · 03-26-2013, 10:47 PM

I do love me some Run DMB faces.

kingfc22 · 03-26-2013, 10:52 PM

US just needs to put together some kind of counter attack that results in at least a shot. Not sure they can hold on for another 30 minutes of constant pressure without going forward at all.

Easy Mac · 03-26-2013, 10:56 PM

Thankfully, at the moment, Mexico appears to be playing for the perfect goal, the one where Dos Santos flutter and Hernandez shimmers as the ball glides into the net. Mexico seems to be a dangerous team when they just throw caution to the wind.

DaddyTorgo · 03-26-2013, 10:58 PM

Wow...how did they NOT bury that?

Crapshoot · 03-26-2013, 11:02 PM

Only one team is trying to win this game.

DaddyTorgo · 03-26-2013, 11:02 PM

Just as I was about to suggest that maybe Zusi was done for...nicely done by him. They may actually pull out a point here.

Crapshoot · 03-26-2013, 11:04 PM

I don't know if its Beasley, but Aquino has been damn impressive tonight.

03-26-2013, 09:22 PM	#1051
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	Prediction: 2-1 Mexico win. Anything better than that would be GREAT. Anything worse is...quite possible. I could see 3-0 or 3-1. And yes - I was typing that before the announcers brought it up. Last edited by DaddyTorgo : 03-26-2013 at 09:23 PM.

03-26-2013, 09:49 PM	#1059
PilotMan Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Seven miles up	I like that the commentators are clear homers and that there is one of each. Kinda like watching WWF back in the day with Bobby Heenan and Gene Okerlund. __________________ He's just like if Snow White was competitive, horny, and capable of beating the shit out of anyone that called her Pops. Like Steam? Join the FOFC Steam group here: http://steamcommunity.com/groups/FOFConSteam

03-26-2013, 09:49 PM	#1060
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	Why is ding-dong calling him Matt Beasley? Oh...he's confusing Biesler and Beasley...that makes sense then. Last edited by DaddyTorgo : 03-26-2013 at 09:51 PM.

03-26-2013, 09:54 PM	#1064
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	Man this US team misses Stuart Holden. Last edited by DaddyTorgo : 03-26-2013 at 09:55 PM.

03-26-2013, 09:59 PM	#1068
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	Yellow coming for Edu for that? Lucky break that wasn't a goal. __________________ If I've ever helped you and you'd like to buy me a coffee, or just to say thanks, I have my Bitcoin and Ethereum addressed listed below :) BTC: bc1qykhsfyn9vw4ntqfgr0svj4n9tjdgufryh2pxn5 ETH: 0x2AcdC5cd88EA537063553F5b240073bE067BaCa9

03-26-2013, 09:29 PM	#1053
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	I think that with the poor weather Costa Rica wasn't able to exploit the fact that the US backline were all strangers to each other. Mexico will have no such problem - their offensive movement on and off the ball is so much better than Costa Rica...

03-26-2013, 09:31 PM	#1054
sovereignstar v2 hates iowa Join Date: Oct 2010	They just finished blaring this over the loudspeakers at the Azteca.

03-26-2013, 09:38 PM	#1056
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	Wow - the away team in this series hasn't won a qualifier in 41 years? YIKES. I didn't realize it was THAT bad.

03-26-2013, 09:39 PM	#1057
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	Shit foul Beasley. Nice. That was damn close to a PK...

03-26-2013, 09:51 PM	#1061
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	Another yellow.

03-26-2013, 09:51 PM	#1062
IlliniCub High School Varsity Join Date: Mar 2012	I agree Pilotman I was just thinking the same thing, I'm waiting to hear the headset slam and then see the Mexican commentator trip a US player at a crucial moment.

03-26-2013, 09:51 PM	#1063
Crapshoot Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Dec 2003	That was a penalty. US got a break there.

03-26-2013, 09:54 PM	#1065
Crapshoot Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Dec 2003	Btw, I assume everyone here follows Jorge Arangure, but this stunned me: Jorge Arangure ‏@jorgearangure 25m Fascinating stat: Chicharito has never scored v US and Dempsey has never scored v Mexico.

03-26-2013, 09:57 PM	#1066
Crapshoot Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Dec 2003	Holy shit, that was a free header - who the hell was covering him? That has to be a goal for Mexico - horrible mess.

03-26-2013, 10:00 PM	#1069
Crapshoot Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Dec 2003	That's another goal where the Mexicans have somehow missed from less than 6 yards out. That can't last, can it?

03-26-2013, 10:01 PM	#1070
kingfc22 Head Coach Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Morgan Hill, CA	US is getting beaten badly out on the wings. __________________ Fan of SF Giants, 49ers, Sharks, Arsenal

03-26-2013, 10:09 PM	#1072
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	Man this team just can't hold onto the ball for any length of time - this is gonna get ugly.

03-26-2013, 10:15 PM	#1073
kingfc22 Head Coach Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Morgan Hill, CA	Nice work by Guzan there. __________________ Fan of SF Giants, 49ers, Sharks, Arsenal

03-26-2013, 10:15 PM	#1074
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	damnit Clint - you can't let that run out of play...

03-26-2013, 10:18 PM	#1075
PilotMan Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Seven miles up	0-0 is a win for the half. __________________ He's just like if Snow White was competitive, horny, and capable of beating the shit out of anyone that called her Pops. Like Steam? Join the FOFC Steam group here: http://steamcommunity.com/groups/FOFConSteam

03-26-2013, 10:19 PM	#1076
Easy Mac Registered User Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Here	Probably better he did. 90 seconds left before extra time. You lay out and play it straight to Mexico and they're probably breaking, as not only is Demsey out of tr play, but so is Edu, Altidore and Zusi.

03-26-2013, 10:21 PM	#1078
Crapshoot Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Dec 2003	It feels like the US attack consists of Altidore by himself, with Dempsey playing behind him in the hope that he can create something, with 8 other guys behind the ball (Bradley's run aside)

03-26-2013, 10:29 PM	#1081
Easy Mac Registered User Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Here	I was surprised to see Bradley get the ball taken from him in the middle of the half. I honestly don't think I've seen that in years. He's probably the only guy tonight who I haven't seen make at least 1 hideous pass. Beasley is out of his depth tonight. The center is holding nicely, but the marking on spot kicks is severely lacking. Zusi disappears for loooooong stretches. It's pretty clear the US has zero interest in even attempting to push or press in the attacking half. It's dangerous , because it lets Mexico constantly pressure the defense and Bradley/Edu whenever we knock it around. Back there.

03-26-2013, 10:35 PM	#1083
rowech Pro Starter Join Date: Feb 2006	I guess for me, I would say the US just needs to defend the crosses and wings better. Don't care too much about the offense really as a 0-0 tie is good enough for me. Last edited by rowech : 03-26-2013 at 10:35 PM.

03-26-2013, 10:41 PM	#1085
Easy Mac Registered User Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Here	Can someone tell Edu to not dribble out of the back. Also, is Altidore on the wing now? Seems odd.

03-26-2013, 10:41 PM	#1086
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	All of our giveaways are on passes that we shouldn't be giving the ball away on either...they're not aggressive passes trying to make something happen, they're usually errant back-passes or square balls (yes, under some degree of pressure, but still).

03-26-2013, 10:42 PM	#1088
PilotMan Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Seven miles up	This game is about to break open. __________________ He's just like if Snow White was competitive, horny, and capable of beating the shit out of anyone that called her Pops. Like Steam? Join the FOFC Steam group here: http://steamcommunity.com/groups/FOFConSteam

03-26-2013, 10:44 PM	#1090
kingfc22 Head Coach Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Morgan Hill, CA	We seriously don't have another option at LB?!? __________________ Fan of SF Giants, 49ers, Sharks, Arsenal

03-26-2013, 10:44 PM	#1091
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	Eddie Johnson probably coming on for Altidore then I'd assume? Seems an odd choice - Jozy hasn't played bad at all I don't think. In fact, his holding up of the ball was actually being beneficial. Disagree with Twellman's analysis - how is Altidore supposed to "get involved" when his team can't string more than 3 passes together? Everytime they got him the ball he held it up fine and got others involved. __________________ If I've ever helped you and you'd like to buy me a coffee, or just to say thanks, I have my Bitcoin and Ethereum addressed listed below :) BTC: bc1qykhsfyn9vw4ntqfgr0svj4n9tjdgufryh2pxn5 ETH: 0x2AcdC5cd88EA537063553F5b240073bE067BaCa9 Last edited by DaddyTorgo : 03-26-2013 at 10:46 PM.

03-26-2013, 10:45 PM	#1092
kingfc22 Head Coach Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Morgan Hill, CA	Errrr....Eddie Johnson. Really Jurgen? __________________ Fan of SF Giants, 49ers, Sharks, Arsenal

03-26-2013, 10:47 PM	#1093
SirFozzie Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: The State of Insanity	Wow. Panama 2, Honduras 0. This group is wideeeeeeee open. __________________ Check out Foz's New Video Game Site, An 8-bit Mind in an 8GB world! http://an8bitmind.com

03-26-2013, 10:47 PM	#1094
Easy Mac Registered User Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Here	I do love me some Run DMB faces.

03-26-2013, 10:52 PM	#1095
kingfc22 Head Coach Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Morgan Hill, CA	US just needs to put together some kind of counter attack that results in at least a shot. Not sure they can hold on for another 30 minutes of constant pressure without going forward at all. __________________ Fan of SF Giants, 49ers, Sharks, Arsenal

03-26-2013, 10:56 PM	#1096
Easy Mac Registered User Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Here	Thankfully, at the moment, Mexico appears to be playing for the perfect goal, the one where Dos Santos flutter and Hernandez shimmers as the ball glides into the net. Mexico seems to be a dangerous team when they just throw caution to the wind.

03-26-2013, 10:58 PM	#1097
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	Wow...how did they NOT bury that? __________________ If I've ever helped you and you'd like to buy me a coffee, or just to say thanks, I have my Bitcoin and Ethereum addressed listed below :) BTC: bc1qykhsfyn9vw4ntqfgr0svj4n9tjdgufryh2pxn5 ETH: 0x2AcdC5cd88EA537063553F5b240073bE067BaCa9