West Coast League: Number of Conferences

[Eaglesfan27]

This may change if we have a radical change in membership, but otherwise, I think we can start these preliminary polls now that we have the members in place to see which option is the most favored.

[Galaxy]

Who are the members of the league?

[Sun Tzu]

Originally Posted by Galaxy

Who are the members of the league?

1. EaglesFan27
2. Hell Atlantic
3. bhlloy
4. cartman
5. Kodos
6. kingsnebwsu
7. Sir Fozzie
8. Galaxy
9. Sun Tzu
10. kcchief
11. Raiders Fan
12. Terps

I like the idea of roughly 1/3 of my games (with the potential for 1 additional out of conference) being against the guys on here. This also allows us to stick to the "sub 80 OVR rating" idea. So I'll take option D.

[Galaxy]

I like option D. You get three people per conference, yet it is spread among four BCS conferences. I think it increases the chance for exciting drama and bowl match-ups (and a battle for the BCS game spots, including the title game).

[Sun Tzu]

I may have mis-voted. So...if roughly 1/3 of my games are against human people, which one do I need to vote for? It's early here

[Sun Tzu]

Dola

Ok I think my vote has changed to option C...just for the sake of playing people here more than twice a year. Assuming we go with any conference other than the Pac-10, it should be doable. Sorry Galaxy, I meant to vote for option C from the get go...of course if the final decision winds up being option D, I'm still going to be happy :P

EaglesFan would you mind reset the poll?

[Eaglesfan27]

With 4 conferences, if you play 2 human non-conference games, you will get about 1/3 against human teams. With 3 conferences, you'll have 3 (maybe only 2 in some years depending upon the league) against other human foes and will only need at least 1 non-conference human game to play about a third.

[Eaglesfan27]

I'm not sure how to reset the poll, but when we do the final tally, it is easy enough to subtract 1 from option 4 and add 1 to option 3. If 2 options are very close but there is a few votes for other options (i.e. no clear winner), I plan on having a subsequent poll with just the 2 most popular options.

[Galaxy]

Is the NCAA schedule now 11 or 12 regular (not including conference championship games) games?

[Galaxy]

Originally Posted by Eaglesfan27

With 4 conferences, if you play 2 human non-conference games, you will get about 1/3 against human teams. With 3 conferences, you'll have 3 (maybe only 2 in some years depending upon the league) against other human foes and will only need at least 1 non-conference human game to play about a third.

Just a quick note, don't forget that in the 12-team, 2-division conferences, you may have the possibility of not playing each other every year if you're in opposing divisions. I think even the Big 10 (you'll miss two teams a year) and Pac 10 (you miss one team a year) has that possibility.

[Eaglesfan27]

Yep. I was thinking that which is why I put the parathentical about some conferences reducing the number of human vs human games.

[bhlloy]

My vote is to go with 3 conferences of 4 teams. That sounds like a good mix of inter-conference rivalries and flexibility when choosing teams.

Are there really 4 viable BCS conferences with 3 teams rated less than 80 anyway?

[kingnebwsu]

I voted for 4 conferences of 3 teams each. I'm honestly okay with either 4x3 or 3x4. I'm sure those will be the two most popular choices.

[Anthony]

i voted for 1 conference, all human teams. i know its in the minority, but we're doing this MP league to play against humans. i can play against the computer on my own time any time i want. i like the thought of knowing that on x day of the week, at x time of the evening, i can play against some good FOFC competition.

oh well, whatever we choose will work for me.

[Kodos]

Thought this could help people in the decision-making process:

Originally Posted by kingnebwsu

JUST TEAMS UNDER 80:

ACC:
Virginia--79
North Carolina--79
Boston College--77
Wake Forest--77
NC State--77
Duke--77

Big 10:
Michigan State 79
Indiana 79
Minnesota 77
Iowa 74

Big 12:
Oklahoma State 79
Colorado 79
Texas A&M 77
Kansas 77
Iowa State 72
Baylor 67

Big East:
USF 79
Rutgers 79
Pittsburgh 79
Louisville 79
Connecticut 74
Syracuse 72

Pac 10:

Washington 79
Washington State 77
Oregon State 77
Stanford 74

SEC:
Arkansas 79
Kentucky 77
Mississippi State 74
Vanderbilt 72

[Kodos]

I voted for 4 conferences with 3 teams. It gives more flexibility in how many games against humans you have. If you only want 2, you can have that, and if you want more, you can schedule up to 4 out of conference opponents (in season two).

[Galaxy]

Originally Posted by Kodos

I voted for 4 conferences with 3 teams. It gives more flexibility in how many games against humans you have. If you only want 2, you can have that, and if you want more, you can schedule up to 4 out of conference opponents (in season two).

Kind of how I feel. Plus, I think having 4 conferences as oppose to 3 allows for more bowl match ups (and national championship/BCS bowl contenders).

[Eaglesfan27]

If I haven't heard from the last 4 who haven't voted by tomorrow afternoon, I'll PM them.

[Galaxy]

Just out of curiosity, what are the ratings for the next worst teams in the Big 10, Pac 10 and SEC?

[Terps]

Sorry for taking so long to vote, I wasn't on at all yesterday... I like the idea of 4 conferences with 3 teams.

[Eaglesfan27]

No problem, Terps. I figure some people just won't check in until the weekdays. However, hopefully, we'll have everyone check in by tomorrow.

[Galaxy]

Who's left?

[Galaxy]

How will we do the voting for the actual conferences?

Do we take a vote on all six conferences first? Do you do a run-off for each conference?

[Eaglesfan27]

Raiders Army, Cartman, and Kcchief haven't checked in, yet.

[Sun Tzu]

Originally Posted by Eaglesfan27

Raiders Army, Cartman, and Kcchief haven't checked in, yet.

PMed. I'm not sure if these guys even know we have a sub-forum yet, since they have been active throughout the day.

[Galaxy]

Originally Posted by Sun Tzu

PMed. I'm not sure if these guys even know we have a sub-forum yet, since they have been active throughout the day.

It is hard to notice.

[Raiders Army]

Voted. I'm somewhat indifferent.

[Galaxy]

I guess we're just waiting on cartman to vote.

[kingnebwsu]

With 7 votes I don't think one more vote makes a difference. 4 conferences of 3 teams looks like the winner.

It's actually 6 votes, since Sun Tzu asked to change his vote, but with 5 being the highest that any other option can get, that looks like the winner.

[Sun Tzu]

I think king is right on this one. I was leaning towards 3 conferences with 4 guys each which would mean more Human v Human games...in fact I even meant to vote for that one but accidentally voted for D. That would put the vote at 4-6, and if cartman votes for C too then it would be 5-6. I'm somewhat afraid of getting my schedule in year 2 or 3 and finding out that I don't play either of my in conference human opponents, and having to burn every out of conference game on them.

But, the flip side is that we'll have a much better chance of playing eachother in bowl games or conference championships in the future, and that's much more fun than playing in week 4 or week 9. So I say bring on the 4 conference 3 people layout.

[Galaxy]

Originally Posted by Sun Tzu

I think king is right on this one. I was leaning towards 3 conferences with 4 guys each which would mean more Human v Human games...in fact I even meant to vote for that one but accidentally voted for D. That would put the vote at 4-6, and if cartman votes for C too then it would be 5-6. I'm somewhat afraid of getting my schedule in year 2 or 3 and finding out that I don't play either of my in conference human opponents, and having to burn every out of conference game on them.

But, the flip side is that we'll have a much better chance of playing eachother in bowl games or conference championships in the future, and that's much more fun than playing in week 4 or week 9. So I say bring on the 4 conference 3 people layout.

I like the idea of watching three or four teams battle in the polls and BCS rankings, with two spots in the BCS title game.

[kingnebwsu]

Yeah. Especially since most conferences have title games and the last 2 weeks of the season (rivalry weeks & conference championships) will probably be the best 2 weeks of the season every year.