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Old 03-08-2010, 05:15 PM   #101
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Further, notice the check box "Stranger to Stranger" marked no. There is no claim she didn't know who he was.
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Old 03-08-2010, 05:19 PM   #102
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But he didn't put a name in the report, and she knew his name. That doesn't say she described him that way, it was the way the officer described him. I doubt she ran up to him amd said "I was just assulted by a white male." Those are his words for the report. I suspect it was the officer that went to NFL.com to get the physical stats.

Yeah, that's what I was saying (or trying to say) just that it wasn't "... the press officer misreading the information."
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Old 03-08-2010, 05:20 PM   #103
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Old 03-08-2010, 05:25 PM   #104
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Yeah, that's what I was saying (or trying to say) just that it wasn't "... the press officer misreading the information."


I think he was. I should look for it, but I seem to remember the intial press officer saying that she said she was assulted by a "white male, 6'5 245 pounds." I have a feeling that she came claiming she was assulted by an over-grown idiot named Ben, and the officer inserted the rest.
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Old 03-08-2010, 05:32 PM   #105
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I think he was. I should look for it, but I seem to remember the intial press officer saying that she said she was assulted by a "white male, 6'5 245 pounds." I have a feeling that she came claiming she was assulted by an over-grown idiot named Ben, and the officer inserted the rest.

Ohhhhhh, now I get what you were saying. I must have missed that version of it along the way. My bad I reckon, I was just 'fused.
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Old 03-10-2010, 09:01 PM   #106
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Report: Big Ben Told Cops No Sex with Accuser | TMZ.com

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Ben Roethlisberger told police that he never had sex with his accuser, but admitted she bumped her head after the two made "contact" in the bathroom -- this according to a new report.

KDKA in Pittsburgh claims they spoke with insiders who claim Ben told Milledgeville police that the woman "slipped and fell" after an incident in the bathroom at the Capital City nightclub.

According to the report, the woman suffered injuries to her head.


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KDKA.com in Pittsburgh are claiming they know what Ben Roethlisberger said to police immediately after the alleged sexual assault. Here is his version of the story allegedly.

When Roethlisberger talked to police the night of the event he told them there was no sexual intercourse. He did have sexual contact with the woman but it was not consummated. He said he did not force himself on the woman, but she did fall and hit her head.

Also it is being reported that Roethlisberger’s lawyers have not agreed to a DNA sample even though the police have asked for it.
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Old 03-11-2010, 03:50 AM   #107
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At first I didn't think anything of this story, but I think it's one of those things that won't go away. I would not be surprised at all to see him charged at some point. Fair or not, I can see a smaller college town police and DA being pissed about some big shot coming in and fucking with the college girls. His story is also kind of weird if true. I mean they fooled around and she fell and hit her head? Something about the story just seems off to me.

And guilty or not, Big Ben is a fucking moron. Why on Earth would you put yourself in a position like that?
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Old 03-11-2010, 04:26 AM   #108
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This is some pretty confusing shit. Less than 1% of pro athletes get accused of sexual assault, and wayyyy less than 1% get accused of it twice. However, it seems as though the first accuser was batshit crazy. Does that make her a liar? Who knows? This whole situation is unfortunately murky, and I do not envy the detectives that are obligated to follow the case.
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Old 03-11-2010, 04:44 AM   #109
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This story gets murkier. She hit her head, and they believe there is dna evidence. More details need to come out (and of course we don't know if this report is true), but the chances that this just goes away have gone way down.
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Old 03-11-2010, 05:16 AM   #110
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The girls story could be complete bullshit for all we know. But still, what the fuck is he doing messing around with a drunk 20 year old girl in a bathroom at a college bar? There is nothing good that can come of that.

And that complete lack of common sense is what makes me question what really went down that night. On the surface, it's incomprehensible that an athlete of Ben's stature would force himself on to a girl. But after hearing how stupid he is with his decision making in life, I don't put it past him.
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Old 03-11-2010, 05:26 AM   #111
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Old 03-11-2010, 05:31 AM   #112
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Why would he be in the same bathroom with her and why admit to this kind of contact? That right there is enough to cast the eye or suspicion his way. Not a good decision, especially given his track record. If this one doesn't bite him, one of these sleeping dogs he keeps poking with these sticks of ignorance will eventually wake up and take a nice chunk out of his ass. Time to stay away from the bars, or party with a different group of people who can help him to not make these decisions.
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Old 03-11-2010, 07:30 AM   #113
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Why would he be in the same bathroom with her and why admit to this kind of contact?

Speculating here of course but sounds like he knows there are witnesses who saw him in there, and he also knows she sustained some kind of "injury" (quoting that because maybe they were making out and he got a little extra heated and forced her up against a wall and she hit her head). So you admit to everything that you know could be proven or verified and deny what you know can't be (like groping or slapping your dick against her hip).
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Old 03-11-2010, 10:41 AM   #114
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I cant believe there aren't pics of this chick all over the internet...

Being that this is all that comes to mind to me, I am apparent very jaded!
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Old 03-11-2010, 10:54 AM   #115
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Old 03-11-2010, 11:11 AM   #116
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“He had been kicked out of a bar at Lake Oconee before he even came to Milledgeville,” Eady said.

Dude was looking for trouble from the start.

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Old 03-11-2010, 01:17 PM   #117
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Speculating here of course but sounds like he knows there are witnesses who saw him in there, and he also knows she sustained some kind of "injury" (quoting that because maybe they were making out and he got a little extra heated and forced her up against a wall and she hit her head). So you admit to everything that you know could be proven or verified and deny what you know can't be (like groping or slapping your dick against her hip).


Sounds like it to me, too. Plus, there is no telling how many video cameras there are in that bar. They may even have footage of him going into the bathroom with her. Going to make it hard to deny.
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Old 03-11-2010, 02:11 PM   #118
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You know, if Ben watched more porn growing up, this wouldn't have happened.
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Old 03-11-2010, 02:15 PM   #119
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My guess is that initially the sex is consensual with these girls, but mid-coitus the girl realizes "Hey, if this progresses further, and we end up getting married, my last name will be Roethlisberger" and they freak the fuck out.
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Old 03-11-2010, 02:31 PM   #120
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I have seen pics of the girl in question.

You know when you see Ben make an awful decision during a game and you go "What the fuck is he thinking?"

It's applicable here also.

It's not at the point where he has to worry about competing for pussy with Steve Phillips, but he's not gonna' be nipping at Ton Brady's heels anytime soon.
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Old 03-11-2010, 03:05 PM   #121
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Or perhaps he says something stupid like, "Do you want my Roethlisfrank to go with the Roethlisberger?"

That might be the best post on FOFC in 2010 thus far.
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Old 03-11-2010, 04:30 PM   #122
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I thought this was funny one of the backups on the steelers was at the bar my friend works at someone asked him what Ben was like. He said a lot of teammates don't like him personally. He compared him to the wigger from that movie Malibu's Most Wanted. Dont remember the guys name I think he went to Roman Catholic HS in philly.
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Old 03-11-2010, 04:48 PM   #123
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I thought this was funny one of the backups on the steelers was at the bar my friend works at someone asked him what Ben was like. He said a lot of teammates don't like him personally. He compared him to the wigger from that movie Malibu's Most Wanted. Dont remember the guys name I think he went to Roman Catholic HS in philly.

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Old 03-11-2010, 04:51 PM   #124
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But still, what the fuck is he doing messing around with a drunk 20 year old girl in a bathroom at a college bar? There is nothing good that can come of that.
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Old 03-11-2010, 05:48 PM   #125
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I know all of this is allegation stuff at this point, but Ben had better have damned well told the exact truth of what happened to the police. If they are requesting DNA, they at least have cause to think they can make a case out of this.

I usually get aggravated at the people who say "if she hadn't worn that, she wouldn't have been raped" or "if he'd just stayed home, he wouldn't be in this position" Here? I have to admit it is correct. He gets kicked out of one club, moves on to another club and decides he wants sex with a 20 year old in the bathroom? This goes back to the first page of the thread, why didn't anyone with him say "Ya know Ben, I think you've had enough tonight, let's cap this B-day party early and get some rest"?

He put himself in a horrible situation here. I go back to his statement to the police. He'd better hope to God there is no physical evidence that is contrary to his comments. If that's the case, this thing gets much uglier than it is now.
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Old 03-11-2010, 06:10 PM   #126
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I usually get aggravated at the people who say "if she hadn't worn that, she wouldn't have been raped" or "if he'd just stayed home, he wouldn't be in this position" Here? I have to admit it is correct. He gets kicked out of one club, moves on to another club and decides he wants sex with a 20 year old in the bathroom? This goes back to the first page of the thread, why didn't anyone with him say "Ya know Ben, I think you've had enough tonight, let's cap this B-day party early and get some rest"?

Doesn't even need to be like that. As Tiger proved, a rich celebrity who wants to crush tons of random hot chicks can have that provided for him effortlessly. IF Ben is guilty of this, it's likely because he has serious issues with behaving like a functional human being, and not just because he couldn't handle blue balls.
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Old 03-11-2010, 06:31 PM   #127
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Even if he is cleared of this, I suspect that 2010 will be his last season in Pittsburgh. Arizona would be a logical destination if leinart doesn't set the world on fire.

Something just aint right with the dude. Like others said, people complete careers with no allegations. With him it is twice. Then all that motorcycle garbage. I'm just over it.
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Old 03-11-2010, 06:41 PM   #128
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That might be the best post on FOFC in 2010 thus far.

I'll see if I can top it...

He might say the Roethlisfrank comes between two buns...

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Old 03-11-2010, 07:18 PM   #129
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I thought this was funny one of the backups on the steelers was at the bar my friend works at someone asked him what Ben was like. He said a lot of teammates don't like him personally. He compared him to the wigger from that movie Malibu's Most Wanted. Dont remember the guys name I think he went to Roman Catholic HS in philly.

Sounds like the tool that everyone in Findlay remembers him as, well except for the older people who adore him because he is a NFL player.

I was told by a girl I was dating back in the day that her and a friend were at Outback Steakhouse and Roethlisberger was there, he hit on both girls and they both blew him off. Then he used the don't you know who I am line.

He was at Bob Evans with 10 family members, the manager asked him to autograph a picture for the store. He said sure as long as they pick up the bill, the manager says ok. Roethlisberger stiffs the waitress, no tip.

He also told the FFD he would donate a large amount of money if he was ever drafted in the NFL, they have yet to see a dime.

Everything I've seen from running into him when I used to live in Findlay to all the stuff I've heard about him around town lead me to believe he is a complete d-bag.
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Old 03-11-2010, 07:33 PM   #130
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I was told by a girl I was dating back in the day that her and a friend were at Outback Steakhouse and Roethlisberger was there, he hit on both girls and they both blew him off.

Sounds like he got what he wanted then

edit: Oh, sorry ... you said blew him off

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Old 03-12-2010, 05:02 PM   #131
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Oopsie (for the cop at least)

Cop who wrote incident report had pictures taken with Roethlisberger *| ajc.com
The Milledgeville cop who filed the initial incident report accusing Pittsburgh Steelers quarterback Ben Roethlisberger of sexual assault posed in pictures with the NFL star hours earlier, the Milledgeville Union-Recorder reports.

Roethlisberger's accuser, a 20-year-old female student at Georgia College and State University, found Sgt. Jerry Blash to report the alleged incident last week.

Blash, who had taken several close-up pictures in the city's downtown area with the quarterback, reportedly wrote the initial report that did not identify Roethlisberger as the suspect.

Police Chief Woodrow Blue told the Union-Recorder that officers handled the case properly, and the investigators on the case were not among other officers pictured with Roethlisberger.

"The photographs did not and have not affected the investigation at all," Blue told the Union-Recorder.

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Old 03-12-2010, 05:08 PM   #132
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Oopsie (for the cop at least)

Cop who wrote incident report had pictures taken with Roethlisberger *| ajc.com
The Milledgeville cop who filed the initial incident report accusing Pittsburgh Steelers quarterback Ben Roethlisberger of sexual assault posed in pictures with the NFL star hours earlier, the Milledgeville Union-Recorder reports.

Roethlisberger's accuser, a 20-year-old female student at Georgia College and State University, found Sgt. Jerry Blash to report the alleged incident last week.

Blash, who had taken several close-up pictures in the city's downtown area with the quarterback, reportedly wrote the initial report that did not identify Roethlisberger as the suspect.

Police Chief Woodrow Blue told the Union-Recorder that officers handled the case properly, and the investigators on the case were not among other officers pictured with Roethlisberger.

"The photographs did not and have not affected the investigation at all," Blue told the Union-Recorder.


The only thing missing in that picture is a mullet on 'ol Ben.
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Old 03-12-2010, 05:25 PM   #133
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Reports are that he's hired a top private investigator to dig up dirt on the girl. I know that celebrities get accused of false crimes a lot, but it's kind of sad how if this girl was a victim, they'll literally destroy her life now.

The Associated Press: Roethlisberger's lawyer hires private investigator
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Old 03-12-2010, 06:41 PM   #134
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Reports are that he's hired a top private investigator to dig up dirt on the girl. I know that celebrities get accused of false crimes a lot, but it's kind of sad how if this girl was a victim, they'll literally destroy her life now.

The Associated Press: Roethlisberger's lawyer hires private investigator

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Old 03-13-2010, 02:16 PM   #135
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Reports are that he's hired a top private investigator to dig up dirt on the girl. I know that celebrities get accused of false crimes a lot, but it's kind of sad how if this girl was a victim, they'll literally destroy her life now.

The Associated Press: Roethlisberger's lawyer hires private investigator


No surprise. Standard operating procedure on these cases, and the reason so many rapes go unreported. They will make this girl out to be Satan regardless of her history.
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Old 04-09-2010, 10:32 AM   #136
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I saw this morning where the local DA will announce on Monday whether charges will be filed against Roethlesberger.

But I'm posting more because it hadn't hit me until I saw the story with the D.A.'s name - Fred Bright. His jurisdiction as a prosecutor also happens to cover the little berg of Monticello, GA where I spent most of my FOFC posting life.

His nickname "Not So", as in Fred "Not So" Bright. This guy couldn't have convicted Hitler of jaywalking nor Lady Godiva of exposure. Not only is he brutally bad but his staff has proven consistently unable to get even the weakest of convictions with overwhelming cases. Even if Ben is charged, the only way he's getting convicted of anything is if he pleads guilty.
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Old 04-09-2010, 02:42 PM   #137
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I saw this morning where the local DA will announce on Monday whether charges will be filed against Roethlesberger.

But I'm posting more because it hadn't hit me until I saw the story with the D.A.'s name - Fred Bright. His jurisdiction as a prosecutor also happens to cover the little berg of Monticello, GA where I spent most of my FOFC posting life.

His nickname "Not So", as in Fred "Not So" Bright. This guy couldn't have convicted Hitler of jaywalking nor Lady Godiva of exposure. Not only is he brutally bad but his staff has proven consistently unable to get even the weakest of convictions with overwhelming cases. Even if Ben is charged, the only way he's getting convicted of anything is if he pleads guilty.


I would guess that he is not getting charged. Unless the presser is to annouce they are sending the case to the Grand Jury (which would be a strange reason to have a presser), they are more than likely closing the case. I would guess there will be some sort of outrage one way or another after this is done.
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Old 04-09-2010, 06:52 PM   #138
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I would guess there will be some sort of outrage one way or another after this is done.

Short of them having video of the victim saying yes & signing a waiver, or her recanting, I'd say that's a fair bet.
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Old 04-09-2010, 10:30 PM   #140
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ESPN says no charges to be filed.

Hopefully that clears the way for a trade. Send him to St Louis or San Fran and be done with it.
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Old 04-10-2010, 12:03 AM   #141
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Old 04-10-2010, 02:16 AM   #142
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ESPN says no charges to be filed.

Hopefully that clears the way for a trade. Send him to St Louis or San Fran and be done with it.

I hear Michael Vick is available...
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Old 04-10-2010, 09:25 AM   #143
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I hear Michael Vick is available...

I'll go ahead and pass on that one.

Seriously, a serial wanker/exposer like Charles Haley goes his entire career without rape type allegations. Ben gets nailed 2 times in a year. Even if it's just questionable screwing, he's gotta do better than that. Couple that with the motorcycle nonsense, I'm just over it.
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Old 04-12-2010, 02:00 PM   #144
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DA: No charges against Steelers' Roethlisberger *| ajc.com

No charges from the DA, saying "the 20-year-old student's accusations could not be proven beyond a reasonable doubt, and her lawyer said in a letter that she did not want to press charges.

"Therefore there will be no arrests made nor criminal prosecution against Mr. Roethlisberger," Bright said."
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Old 04-12-2010, 02:04 PM   #145
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Old 04-12-2010, 02:48 PM   #146
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Ben better keep his shit straight, for the rest of his playing career, if he wants to salvage any type of decent legacy in Pittsburgh.
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Old 04-12-2010, 02:58 PM   #147
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In fairness (to a guy who I personally believe is as guilty as homemade sin on this one), here's the local version of the story with more complete quotes from the DA.

“The sexual allegation against Mr. Roethlisberger cannot be proven beyond a reasonable doubt,” said Bright during Monday’s press conference, which has drawn outside media from all over the country.

The Georgia Bureau of Investigation and the Milledgeville Police Department turned over their findings to the district attorney’s office last week. Bright said there was no evidence to warrant criminal charges in the case.

“This decision was not difficult to reach,” said Bright.

He said that neither Roethlisberger nor the student will face criminal charges.

“We’re still waiting on a few other bits and pieces, but it won’t change anything,” he said of closure to the investigation. “It’s [the case] closed.”

Both parties, had been out downtown frequenting bars in the hours leading up to the events in question, said Bright.

“There were conversations, actions — and it was a two-way street — of a sexual nature,” he said of the events leading up to the allegations.

Case is a good example as a night that got out of hand, he said.

“Her details are somewhat foggy,” said Bright, due to the 20-year-old’s possible level of intoxication.


That's a little different, in my reading at least, that the national version which seems to be more along the lines of "we don't have enough to prove anything". This sounds more like, we don't have shit beyond her word.
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Old 04-12-2010, 03:54 PM   #148
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Why isn't a 20 year old who was >.20 drunk facing any kind of charges. And/or the establishment.
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Why isn't a 20 year old who was >.20 drunk facing any kind of charges. And/or the establishment.

You might say she already was punished.
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No charges from the DA, saying "the 20-year-old student's accusations could not be proven beyond a reasonable doubt, and her lawyer said in a letter that she did not want to press charges.

"Therefore there will be no arrests made nor criminal prosecution against Mr. Roethlisberger," Bright said."

I wonder how much poorer big ben is after this.....
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