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Old 07-11-2011, 11:22 AM   #151
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Maybe I'm old and/or slow, but I'm on Google+ and don't know what the hell to DO with it. I have added people to circles, but what's next?
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Old 07-11-2011, 11:25 AM   #152
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Old 07-11-2011, 11:25 AM   #153
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Old 07-11-2011, 11:30 AM   #154
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It's still in it's "new" stage, so there's going to be some bugs. WELCOME TO HOLLYWOOD!!!
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Old 07-11-2011, 11:31 AM   #155
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Can you like... add another friend's circle if you have permission? I'd think that would be fairly common with work groups or online communities.

I think circles are personal. But maybe they may add a "public" circle option in the future?
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Old 07-11-2011, 01:18 PM   #156
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Old 07-11-2011, 01:55 PM   #157
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So do I have to click on each circle to get something similar to a news feed for each circle? Or is there a place I can get info from every circle in one feed?
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Old 07-11-2011, 02:00 PM   #158
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Old 07-11-2011, 02:34 PM   #159
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So do I have to click on each circle to get something similar to a news feed for each circle? Or is there a place I can get info from every circle in one feed?

That is your general "Stream"
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Old 07-11-2011, 04:02 PM   #160
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Old 07-11-2011, 04:25 PM   #161
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Old 07-11-2011, 04:48 PM   #162
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Alright, I'll take the plunge. I keep seeing that it is full and try again later. For those who care my gmail is: briansevenoneninesevenone. Make the alpha versions of the numbers, into numbers (71971) and that's my gmail address.
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Old 07-11-2011, 07:31 PM   #163
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Old 07-11-2011, 07:46 PM   #164
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Old 07-11-2011, 09:57 PM   #165
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Old 07-12-2011, 10:40 AM   #166
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Thanks for the invites! I tried responding (to say 'thank you'), but, the emails got bounced back.
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Old 07-12-2011, 10:42 AM   #167
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I'm kind of going...meh with this....
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Old 07-12-2011, 10:44 AM   #168
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It is a bit underwhelming...but, I guess it's still in its early stages?
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Old 07-12-2011, 10:53 AM   #169
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I still think functionally it is 100000x better than facebook.

Only thing lacking, imo, is users at the moment.
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Old 07-12-2011, 10:57 AM   #170
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Old 07-12-2011, 10:59 AM   #171
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I'm struggling to see what this does better, other than the fact that circles are more obvious/intuitive than the groups in facebook? An overwhelming meh so far.
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Old 07-12-2011, 11:06 AM   #172
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I'm struggling to see what this does better, other than the fact that circles are more obvious/intuitive than the groups in facebook? An overwhelming meh so far.

1. Way cleaner
2. Ties in with other google apps
3. Circles
4. Easy control over who you share stuff with
5. No games
6. While limited use,t he video chat is very nice

That's off the top of my head.
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Old 07-12-2011, 11:12 AM   #173
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It's only been out 14 days.
Don't forget Google has a search engine, VOIP, a Skype like video chat, a browser, a cell phone OS, and cars that drive themselves. All waiting to be integrated into Google+

Also, FB had aged 2 years before it was released to everyone.
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Old 07-12-2011, 11:18 AM   #174
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Also, FB had aged 2 years before it was released to everyone.

And to me, that's when it went downhill (not too be all hipster about it, but it was great when it was just college students)
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Old 07-12-2011, 11:27 AM   #175
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I'm struggling to see what this does better, other than the fact that circles are more obvious/intuitive than the groups in facebook? An overwhelming meh so far.
it's not facebook
that's what i like about it
that's also what i like about turkey breast and freshly paved streets
they're not facebook
duh

edit: i'll think of other things that i like after i check facebook and see how my mafia is doing
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Old 07-12-2011, 12:00 PM   #176
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1. Way cleaner
2. Ties in with other google apps
3. Circles
4. Easy control over who you share stuff with
5. No games
6. While limited use,t he video chat is very nice

That's a pretty good list of reasons for me maybe to not even pursue it, although I'd been thinking about at least taking a look at it.

2. I rarely use any Google apps beyond search
3. Not much on circles/groups/etc
5. Games are the difference in me keeping FB open 16 hrs a day versus checking it once every week or two
6. I can't think of much that appeals to me less than video chat

Not knocking any of it, just not my things, so I sort of oddly appreciate the list of pros you found.
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Old 07-12-2011, 12:11 PM   #177
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It's only been out 14 days.
Don't forget Google has a search engine, VOIP, a Skype like video chat, a browser, a cell phone OS, and cars that drive themselves. All waiting to be integrated into Google+

Also, FB had aged 2 years before it was released to everyone.

The OS may be in trouble if they lose their lawsuits.
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Old 07-12-2011, 12:17 PM   #178
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I think #3 is the big thing. I can add co-workers or even clients and keep an open communication to them in tandem with with the more standard Facebook type connections(which will likely be split down as well).

That and connections are not made through the Facebook style mutual confirmation. Anyone can add anyone to their circle. That doesn't mean you get access to the other person's private posts, but you start seeing their public posts on your feed(think Twitter) and they get notified they were added to your circle. There are people I may add to a limited circle I would never bother communicating with through Facebook. Strictly functionally speaking this isn't a huge difference, but I suspect it will have far ranging consequences with the amount of, topics of discussion and type of people the Google+ userbase connects with.

Overall I suspect the social aspect will be much more open. Which as an idea appeals to me.
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Old 07-12-2011, 12:18 PM   #179
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5. Games are the difference in me keeping FB open 16 hrs a day versus checking it once every week or two
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I imagined you as the last person on Earth that would ever play FarmVille.
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I think #3 is the big thing. I can add co-workers or even clients and keep an open communication to them in tandem with with the more standard Facebook type connections(which will likely be split down as well).

That and connections are not made through the Facebook style mutual confirmation. Anyone can add anyone to their circle. That doesn't mean you get access to the other person's private posts, but you start seeing their public posts on your feed(think Twitter) and they get notified they were added to your circle. Strictly functionally speaking this isn't a huge difference, but I suspect it will have far ranging consequences with the amount of and type of people the Google+ userbase connects with.

Overally I suspect the social aspect will be much more open. Which as an idea appeals to me.

How are circles different than creating and customizing lists on Facebook?
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Old 07-12-2011, 12:20 PM   #181
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I imagined you as the last person on Earth that would ever play FarmVille.

It's really just another resource gathering timewaster, same as Syrnia which I played for something like three years. Played The West, played Omerta. Really not much difference except that FB puts 'em all in one place. As I pointed out quite a bit on FB, there's really nothing new about these kind of games except the location/ease of access.
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Old 07-12-2011, 12:27 PM   #182
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How are circles different than creating and customizing lists on Facebook?


I think a major piece is that everyone uses them, which I feel will spark more topical conversation specific to each rough "circle". Being so embedded at the core and being more intuitive makes for a different culture. Also being able to add people to a circle without sending a confirmation email will foster more communication and networking as well.

Obviously a lot of my points are theoretical on how I think Google+ will change the way people use a social networking site for the better. Not really concrete, people need to use it as a social platform to see these changes. You can't really do that on your own though, you can't force it, chicken and egg type thing. I'm very interested in seeing where it goes.
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Can you actually post to specific lists on Facebook though? I thought that was more of just a grouping within your friends list for organizational purposes.
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Not only can you post/share to certain circles at a given time, but you can also view posts/updates from particular circles too (and I would imagine, in time, you'll be able to customize your steam to show only certain circles too)
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Old 07-12-2011, 12:42 PM   #185
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I haven't used facebook lists, I had assumed you could. If not they are pointless and there's no comparison.
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I haven't used facebook lists, I had assumed you could. If not they are pointless and there's no comparison.

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Old 07-12-2011, 12:49 PM   #187
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That's a pretty good list of reasons for me maybe to not even pursue it, although I'd been thinking about at least taking a look at it.

2. I rarely use any Google apps beyond search
3. Not much on circles/groups/etc
5. Games are the difference in me keeping FB open 16 hrs a day versus checking it once every week or two
6. I can't think of much that appeals to me less than video chat

Not knocking any of it, just not my things, so I sort of oddly appreciate the list of pros you found.

Yup, sounds like completely different wants out of the stuff.

I personally use picassa for all of my photo stuff, use spreadsheets a fair amount, use calendar, use reader...

Not all of that is integrated, but it's pretty easy to see the dotted line connecting it all for future construction.
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Old 07-12-2011, 01:09 PM   #188
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Can you actually post to specific lists on Facebook though?

As far as I knew you could, or at least used to be able to. Never tried it though, only really considered it for game post purposes, never actually tried it now that I think about it. That may have disappeared during the last revision of "groups" though.
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Old 07-13-2011, 10:47 AM   #192
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Not all of that is integrated, but it's pretty easy to see the dotted line connecting it all for future construction.


The interesting part of this for me is how everyone keeps bringing up the integration of all of this stuff as if it was a good thing. The good thing about integrating all of the various components is that it makes things easier for people to use. The bad thing is that it makes it easier to be abused.

Thanks to all of the various hacks/viruses/exploits/etc out there for things that tied into facebook leaving people very exposed, I actually stopped allowing any application to integrate with my facebook, and I actually also set up a noscript cross-scripting policy to not allow anything else at all to pull scripts that interact with facebook.

Maybe I am using facebook wrong, but I just use it to keep in touch with old friends/family almost like a "group email" ability of sorts. As long as my frinds/family remain there, thats where I'll be. If they move to google+, that is where I'll go.

i definitely don't like the idea of everything under the sun integrating itself at google+ for the same reasons as listed above though. I fully understand that is what google wants to do, and I understand why they want to do it. I just don't understand why security conscious users would want it.
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Well it's all associated in with your Google account already, all that's missing is the GUI tie-in within Google+. These of course are all Google products that he was discussing, which is a little different than all the crazy shit Facebook linked with.
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How are circles different than creating and customizing lists on Facebook?

Lists are far more annoying than Circles. And Lists obviously feel as they were added after everything was in place (which they were), while Circles feel completely integrated in the experience.

One of the best things with Circles is when you post anything you can specify the people it goes to. Its impossible to have status updates on Facebook only go to certain people (or very hard, I don't know how to do it). Maybe your FOFC friends won't care about the stuff you are doing with your Church friends, etc.

And yes, you can post to lists specifically. But that sort of thing doesn't show up in your newsfeed - its more like a message.
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Well it's all associated in with your Google account already, all that's missing is the GUI tie-in within Google+. These of course are all Google products that he was discussing, which is a little different than all the crazy shit Facebook linked with.

Yeah, exactly. I'm talking about Google specific apps that would be within their architecture which would reduce/eliminate many of the risks Alan T is referring to.
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Old 07-13-2011, 02:31 PM   #196
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Only thing lacking, imo, is users at the moment.
...and that's the big question for me. Not "will a bunch of text sim geeks who pay attention to stuff like interfaces, functionality, etc. use it?" If, as I suspect, a great majority of my Facebook friends list doesn't use it G+ with any frequency, there's not going to be a compelling reason for me to use it regularly, either. And I don't see myself using both long-term. I'd *love* to have a circle of, say, "Friends with Toddlers," to whom I ask questions and share stuff that only parents with toddlers care about, but if 50-75% of my friends who have toddlers are checking FB constantly, and G+ once a week, guess which one I'm heading to?
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Well MySpace went down to Facebook, so there is no saying that users won't make Google+ the #1. It may depend what Facebook does.
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