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Rizon · 07-15-2011, 03:00 PM

Ah, that worked. I added Rob Ordona to one of my circles, then went to his page and looked under "who has Rob Ordona in their circles" and my name does not appear.

cuervo72 · 07-15-2011, 03:06 PM

But he has to rely on you to set that setting, yes?

/me can't wait to see Ben's bud get busted for something then have the law check bud's Google+ and want to question Ben

Rizon · 07-15-2011, 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by cuervo72

But he has to rely on you to set that setting, yes?

Nope, Ben can make himself invisible in other people's circles.

cuervo72 · 07-15-2011, 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Rizon

Nope, Ben can make himself invisible in other people's circles.

But wait...the article you linked has the following exchange:

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Maribel July 11, 2011 at 5:05 pm

I don’t want to be listed on any random person’s profile. Can it be changed to where unless you allow them to add you to a circle they shouldn’t be albe to add you at all?

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Damon Morda July 11, 2011 at 5:43 pm

At this time, I’m not aware of any way to prevent people from adding you to their circles. They will not necessarily see your posts, unless you add them to a circle or post publicly, but you will appear in their circles when people view their profiles.

jeff061 · 07-15-2011, 03:25 PM

You are still functionally in their circle, just no one can tell you are. You are invisible.

Rizon · 07-15-2011, 03:27 PM

Oh yeah, you can't prevent people from adding you to circles (similar to how you can't prevent someone from bookmarking your FB profile). But you can prevent your name from showing up in someone elses circle that added you. So if Ben's crazy person from the past adds him to a circle, nobody but crazy person can see Ben's been added to that circle.

cuervo72 · 07-15-2011, 03:28 PM

Then this part:

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but you will appear in their circles when people view their profiles

is not correct?

Rizon · 07-15-2011, 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by cuervo72

Then this part:

is not correct?

Hmm, I can't seem to get that page to come up at the moment so I can't tell the context of how that question was asked.

But you can, in fact, change your own privacy settings so that your name will not appear to others in someone elses circles in their profile.

Rizon · 07-15-2011, 03:42 PM

I'm trying to get some screen shots to prove it, but for some reason my mouse randomly decides not work within G+

Alan T · 07-15-2011, 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Rizon

I'm trying to get some screen shots to prove it, but for some reason my mouse randomly decides not work within G+

Give it a little bit. I find when I load up google+, I can't do anything with my mouse other than move it around for 15 - 45 seconds but then it will start working.

Rizon · 07-15-2011, 03:46 PM

Ok, first thing I did in my own settings was remove the ability for anyone to see, on my page, who has me in circles.

I circled in red where that would normally show up.

Rizon · 07-15-2011, 03:50 PM

Trying to find someone who added me to their circle that I haven't added back ...

cuervo72 · 07-15-2011, 03:53 PM

Well, I was able to see you via "In Passacaglia's circles".

Rizon · 07-15-2011, 03:54 PM

I wonder if I need 3 people to test this. I un circled a friend, looked in her profile, but I still show under her profile in her circles. Not sure if that's because it's myself or because you really CAN'T remove yourself from being displayed. Going to have to dick with this when I get back from lunch.

gstelmack · 07-15-2011, 03:54 PM

Yet another thread today that needs flere diagrams what with all the circle talk.

Rizon · 07-15-2011, 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by cuervo72

Well, I was able to see you via "In Passacaglia's circles".

Yes, that's because we're in mutual circles. If you have the person in a circle, then you'll show up.

Rizon · 07-15-2011, 03:56 PM

Cuervo, let me PM you a random friend's profile and have you check and see if I show up.

jeff061 · 07-15-2011, 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by gstelmack

Yet another thread today that needs flere diagrams what with all the circle talk.

lol, yes, this design is much easier to see and do than it is to explain.

cuervo72 · 07-15-2011, 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Rizon

Cuervo, let me PM you a random friend's profile and have you check and see if I show up.

Ok, go for it.

Rizon · 07-15-2011, 03:58 PM

I'm suspecting it's not working ... or that since her and I use to be mutual circle pals that I'm still there.

It would be ass if you can't remove yourself from being seen in another's circles.

cuervo72 · 07-15-2011, 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Rizon

I'm suspecting it's not working ... or that since her and I use to be mutual circle pals that I'm still there.

It would be ass if you can't remove yourself from being seen in another's circles.

yy, that's my point indeed.

Ben E Lou · 07-15-2011, 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Rizon

I'm suspecting it's not working ... or that since her and I use to be mutual circle pals that I'm still there.

It would be ass if you can't remove yourself from being seen in another's circles.

That's what I have been TRYING to say!

I looked pretty heavily into privacy and couldn't find a way without the other person knowing about it. Like I said, it's of course possible that I just don't know the system very well, but everything said here seems to be confirming that...

Pumpy Tudors · 07-15-2011, 04:13 PM

sure wish jbmagic could voice his opinion on whether facebook or google+ is better, even though he's probably on neither

Ryan S · 07-15-2011, 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Ben E Lou

That's what I have been TRYING to say!

I looked pretty heavily into privacy and couldn't find a way without the other person knowing about it. Like I said, it's of course possible that I just don't know the system very well, but everything said here seems to be confirming that...

As I said earlier, I reckon that we should provide some feedback to google about this, and we should also recommend that they make the privacy options a little clearer.

stevew · 07-15-2011, 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Pumpy Tudors

sure wish jbmagic could voice his opinion on whether facebook or google+ is better, even though he's probably on neither

how the ai?

Ben E Lou · 07-15-2011, 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Ryan S

As I said earlier, I reckon that we should provide some feedback to google about this, and we should also recommend that they make the privacy options a little clearer.

afk now, but planning on it.

Rizon · 07-15-2011, 05:09 PM

What's weird is that I removed a friend from my circles (to test this).
I created an account for my wife. Searched my friend, and sure enough, I'm listed as being BOTH circling her and being circled by her ... even though I'm not currently circled with her.

*edited for fail

Rizon · 07-15-2011, 05:15 PM

Well, at least I know for sure that if you had someone in your circles and remove them, they still show on their profile (if you both were mutually circled, then you show up regardless of privacy settings). I suspect the ability to avoid showing up is not working properly/not available or I'm not using it properly or not testing it properly.

Either way it's not intuitive enough and needs some improvin.

Rizon · 07-15-2011, 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Ben E Lou

That's what I have been TRYING to say!

I looked pretty heavily into privacy and couldn't find a way without the other person knowing about it. Like I said, it's of course possible that I just don't know the system very well, but everything said here seems to be confirming that...

At first I really didn't understand why you were concerned. But the more I think about it, you are 100% legitimate in your concern and I feel the same way.

Rizon · 07-15-2011, 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Rizon

At first I really didn't understand why you were concerned. But the more I think about it, you are 100% legitimate in your concern and I feel the same way.

And reading through some of the posts regarding this on the g+ forums, there is a disconnect from not understanding the concern. People aren't understanding the difference between I don't want someone to circle me and I don't care if someone circles me, I just don't want it to be made public on THEIR page.

Rizon · 07-15-2011, 05:37 PM

From what I'm reading it appears to be a known bug so the feature isn't working correctly.

Rizon · 07-15-2011, 05:47 PM

Man, this is being hotly debated on their forums. Lots of good reading. All it boils down to is people not wanting to be guilty-by-association by something that doesn't understand how circles/G+ work(s). Seems like someone that could be fixed.

Hypothetical: NAMBLA circles Ben. This doesn't show up on Ben's page. Ben goes about life normally. Someone goes on NAMBLAs page and see's they've circled Ben and incorrectly draws the conclusion Ben likes boys just because of that. Someone busts a cap up in Ben over it.

In a more realistic situation, I can see how this could cause trouble in relationships between ex's vs current relationships.

JediKooter · 07-15-2011, 05:50 PM

Or trying to get a job.

DanGarion · 07-15-2011, 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by stevew

Larger thought. Sex offenders have to register in many states due to penalties, etc. Why don't these people also have to register if they are going to be a part of online social communities. I guess they don't just sit around and dream of getting to go make some fresh rape. However it's just something that strikes me as odd.

The same reason they don't have to register as a sex offender here...

JediKooter · 07-15-2011, 05:51 PM

However, feel free to add me to the "I'd bang Scarlett Johanson in a New York Minute" circle.

DanGarion · 07-15-2011, 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by JediKooter

However, feel free to add me to the "I'd bang Scarlett Johanson in a New York Minute" circle.

I would too, that is one of my free passes.

JonInMiddleGA · 07-15-2011, 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by DanGarion

I would too, that is one of my free passes.

Damn, you just made me feel old. You caused me to realize that my originally issued free passes have pretty much aged beyond the point that I'd want to use them. I don't think trying to trade them in would go over very well.

Crap.

Galaxy · 07-16-2011, 10:18 PM

So did Fb redo their chat feature? It seems like it's a pain in the butt now.

JonInMiddleGA · 07-16-2011, 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Galaxy

So did Fb redo their chat feature? It seems like it's a pain in the butt now.

It's weird to say the least.

Basically everything - "messages" (in the old PM sense), chat, whatever - are now "messages". You want to get in touch with someone you click on their name, type it up & then it shows up in their messages folder. They can respond in "real time" or whenever they're online or whatever.

And your entire chat log (or what we'd normally call a chat log) goes into a single "message" that's stored under that persons name (although you can empty the history for that person).

MJ4H · 07-17-2011, 12:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Galaxy

So did Fb redo their chat feature? It seems like it's a pain in the butt now.

Sort of. There is now the option to have a dynamic sidebar that has your most frequently interacted with friends in it (the number depends on how many can fit vertically without scrolling). Anytime there isn't room for the sidebar in the window, it goes back to the normal little pull up thing it's always been with the tile list of online users over on the left side. It's actually kind of handy. You can always manually hide the sidebar with the gear icon in the bottom right.

Passacaglia · 07-26-2011, 12:17 PM

So I was added to a circle by someone I don't know today, which is the first time that's happened to me. Have people found themselves actually being added by random people, or adding random people (other than celebrities)? Just wondering if people are using circles the way people on here had been saying they will.

jeff061 · 07-26-2011, 12:25 PM

I've added people who I see are posting things I'm interested in or seem to share a common interest. I've had people add me similarly, generally I can tell why and reciprocate. If I see we have people in common or I can tell what they are about from their profile(generally work/tech stuff) I'll add them, if they have an empty profile and/or have no one in common I'll ignore.

This way of connecting with people is exactly how I expected people to use Google+ differently.

Alan T · 07-26-2011, 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Passacaglia

So I was added to a circle by someone I don't know today, which is the first time that's happened to me. Have people found themselves actually being added by random people, or adding random people (other than celebrities)? Just wondering if people are using circles the way people on here had been saying they will.

I haven't really seen many of people I interact with regularly actually using it. I've been added to circles of various family members as well as people from FOFC and some people from work.. but hardly anyone is actually posting in it right now. Everyone seems to still be using facebook. I assume still waiting for more people to start using it before they do.

Rizon · 07-26-2011, 01:04 PM

The Most Interesting Man in the World added me

gstelmack · 07-26-2011, 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Rizon

The Most Interesting Man in the World added me

Pumpy?

Rizon · 07-26-2011, 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by gstelmack

Pumpy?

No, this guy was black.

JonInMiddleGA · 07-26-2011, 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Alan T

I haven't really seen many of people I interact with regularly actually using it..

This.

So far I've added/been added by I think 3 FOFC'er and 2 FB'ers. Of those, I've seen one actually use it (with anything I've seen) for anything & even that was mostly experimenting with some photos to test the privacy settings. Last traffic among those users that I see (when I checked today) was July 17.

Pumpy Tudors · 07-26-2011, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Rizon

No, this guy was black.

This made me grunt out a pained "oooooh" in my cubicle. That was a nut punch, but it was well worth it.

Ryan S · 08-23-2011, 04:07 PM

It looks like facebook are fighting back with some google+ type features.

Facebook blog

bhlloy · 08-23-2011, 04:25 PM

Think it's pretty telling that this thread gets bumped with an update on what Facebook is doing. I think everybody in my circles average about 1 update a day, usually somebody checking in for the hell of it at lunch.

07-15-2011, 03:06 PM	#352
cuervo72 Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Maryland	But he has to rely on you to set that setting, yes? /me can't wait to see Ben's bud get busted for something then have the law check bud's Google+ and want to question Ben __________________ null

07-15-2011, 03:25 PM	#355
jeff061 Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: MA	You are still functionally in their circle, just no one can tell you are. You are invisible. __________________ Last edited by jeff061 : 07-15-2011 at 03:25 PM.

07-15-2011, 03:53 PM	#363
cuervo72 Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Maryland	Well, I was able to see you via "In Passacaglia's circles". __________________ null

07-15-2011, 03:54 PM	#365
gstelmack Pro Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Cary, NC	Yet another thread today that needs flere diagrams what with all the circle talk. __________________ -- Greg -- Author of various FOF utilities

07-15-2011, 04:13 PM	#373
Pumpy Tudors Bounty Hunter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Pittsburgh, PA	sure wish jbmagic could voice his opinion on whether facebook or google+ is better, even though he's probably on neither __________________ No, I am not Batman, and I will not repair your food processor.

07-15-2011, 05:50 PM	#383
JediKooter Coordinator Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: San Diego via Sausalito via San Jose via San Diego	Or trying to get a job. __________________ I'm no longer a Chargers fan, they are dead to me Coming this summer to a movie theater near you: The Adventures of Jedikooter: Part 4

07-15-2011, 05:51 PM	#385
JediKooter Coordinator Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: San Diego via Sausalito via San Jose via San Diego	However, feel free to add me to the "I'd bang Scarlett Johanson in a New York Minute" circle. __________________ I'm no longer a Chargers fan, they are dead to me Coming this summer to a movie theater near you: The Adventures of Jedikooter: Part 4

07-16-2011, 10:18 PM	#388
Galaxy Coordinator Join Date: Apr 2005	So did Fb redo their chat feature? It seems like it's a pain in the butt now.

07-26-2011, 12:17 PM	#391
Passacaglia Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Big Ten Country	So I was added to a circle by someone I don't know today, which is the first time that's happened to me. Have people found themselves actually being added by random people, or adding random people (other than celebrities)? Just wondering if people are using circles the way people on here had been saying they will.

07-26-2011, 12:25 PM	#392
jeff061 Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: MA	I've added people who I see are posting things I'm interested in or seem to share a common interest. I've had people add me similarly, generally I can tell why and reciprocate. If I see we have people in common or I can tell what they are about from their profile(generally work/tech stuff) I'll add them, if they have an empty profile and/or have no one in common I'll ignore. This way of connecting with people is exactly how I expected people to use Google+ differently. __________________ Last edited by jeff061 : 07-26-2011 at 12:31 PM.

08-23-2011, 04:07 PM	#399
Ryan S Quarterback Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: London, England	It looks like facebook are fighting back with some google+ type features. Facebook blog Last edited by Ryan S : 08-23-2011 at 04:08 PM.

08-23-2011, 04:25 PM	#400
bhlloy Coordinator Join Date: Nov 2003	Think it's pretty telling that this thread gets bumped with an update on what Facebook is doing. I think everybody in my circles average about 1 update a day, usually somebody checking in for the hell of it at lunch.

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