STARK (GoT) Thread

Chief Rum · 05-20-2013, 12:49 AM

This is the House Stark thread. You may only post in here or view this thread if you are allowed to in the game rules.

This thread is for members of House Stark.

FOR REFERENCE

Here is the player list, with roles

HOUSE STARK

King Robb Stark-- Coffee Warlord

Roose Bolton-- JAG
Rickard Karstark-- MrBug708
Theon Greyjoy-- Lathum

HOUSE LANNISTER

King Joffrey Baratheon-- Zinto

Tywin Lannister-- hoopsguy
Jaime Lannister-- greenbeans
Ser Gregor Clegane-- Julio Riddols

HOUSE BARATHEON OF DRAGONSTONE

King Stannis Baratheon-- Autumn

Ser Davos Seaworth-- InBlue
Axell Florent-- claphamsa
Melisandre-- bulletsponge

HOUSE BARATHEON OF STORM'S END

King Renly Baratheon-- path12

Loras Tyrell-- murrayyyyy
Cortnay Penrose-- Darth Vilus
Brienne of Tarth-- fontisian

NEUTRAL CHARACTERS

Barristan Selmy-- mauchow
Lord Varys-- DaddyTorgo
Cersei Lannister-- Narcizo
Petyr Littlefinger Baelish-- saldana
Tyrion Lannister-- Danny

MrBug708 · 05-20-2013, 01:08 AM

Checking in. I won't be around morning/early afternoon. Deadline time might be hit/miss, at least the next two days

JAG · 05-20-2013, 06:21 AM

Greetings fellow bannermen and King Robb. Pray excuse me while I am leached and read the last page of rules.

Coffee Warlord · 05-20-2013, 08:39 AM

Good doggy!

Coffee Warlord · 05-20-2013, 08:48 AM

I find it moderately unnerving that two of my bannermen are people who royally fuck me in the books.

Coffee Warlord · 05-20-2013, 09:02 AM

My without even reading the rules since they aren't posted thoughts...

One, we need boats.

Two, it sure wouldn't suck to get Littlefinger on our side. I've got to guess he's got a boatload of cash, and controlling the money could be a big deal.

JAG · 05-20-2013, 09:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coffee Warlord

I find it moderately unnerving that two of my bannermen are people who royally fuck me in the books.

The other isn't much to write home about either. Be that as it may, there is nothing in my role PM that should give you cause for fear.

Coffee Warlord · 05-20-2013, 09:03 AM

OF COURSE YOU WOULD SAY THAT.

Coffee Warlord · 05-20-2013, 09:04 AM

FYI - Kings have a special ability and a drawback.

I won't say what it is, due to the possibility of spies down the road, but mine's not bad. I want to find out if Hands are public knowledge or not first - if they aren't, I have an amusing idea.

JAG · 05-20-2013, 09:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coffee Warlord

My without even reading the rules since they aren't posted thoughts...

One, we need boats.

Two, it sure wouldn't suck to get Littlefinger on our side. I've got to guess he's got a boatload of cash, and controlling the money could be a big deal.

Your Grace, I fear our war shall be lost if we do not ally ourselves with another House. We cannot stand alone against the Lannisters. If it's boats we need, King Stannis would be a wise choice of ally as he has a sizable fleet.

MrBug708 · 05-20-2013, 09:21 AM

I'm assuming this is before your mother let Jaime Lannister go free and you behead me

Coffee Warlord · 05-20-2013, 09:22 AM

See, I'm a little smarter than my literary counterpart.

Mom stays at home. Under lock and key.

MrBug708 · 05-20-2013, 09:29 AM

So, two banner screw you over and you behead a third. We have a great group here!

MrBug708 · 05-20-2013, 09:29 AM

Go Northmen!

Coffee Warlord · 05-20-2013, 09:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rules

The game will continue until there is just one remaining king and three bannermen in the game. The bannermen must be vassals to the remaining king. If you’re a king, your goal is to be that king. If you’re a bannerman, your goal is to be one of those three bannermen—EVEN IF THAT’S NOT YOUR KING AT THE START.

So it looks like we can only ever have 3 bannermen.

In other words, control of the neutrals is likely going to be key.

Coffee Warlord · 05-20-2013, 09:52 AM

...Assuming there's a provision in the game to actually do something like that.

JAG · 05-20-2013, 10:07 AM

To have their assistance, we must needs find out what their goals are and how we can help each other achieve our goals.

MrBug708 · 05-20-2013, 10:29 AM

Do we get PM ability?

Thinking aloud, the lannisters will have the most money, Stannis the most ships, Joffery will probably have the most men. What is our advantage without tipping our hand?

We rule the North, Eddard could have been King when he found the Kingslayer with the dead baby.

The Lannisters are allied so they are powerful and want to unite the lands. Stannis will preserve his birthright and will not ally with us as he must bend the knee.

Our next move will be difficult

MrBug708 · 05-20-2013, 10:31 AM

Me thinks that Varys will be listening to every word

Coffee Warlord · 05-20-2013, 10:39 AM

We've got a chunk of troops, but I have no idea how it compares. It might be a quality vs quantity thing for us. As per some of my abilities, without going into too much detail, we fight better than others when going into battle.

At a guess...

Lannisters == Money
Stannis == Ships
Renly == Men
Us == Quality

Coffee Warlord · 05-20-2013, 10:42 AM

Which is again, why I'm making an early thought that, if possible, Littlefinger might be our best neutral to go after first and foremost. The South is well known for their greed. Wars are fought not only with steel, but with gold and silver. We have the former, we should work to control the latter.

MrBug708 · 05-20-2013, 10:46 AM

Stannis probably has magic with the Red Priestess

Coffee Warlord · 05-20-2013, 10:49 AM

My guess is she either can assassinate someone for him, or act as a bodyguard / seer type deal and root out spies. Former sounds reasonably reasonable.

Coffee Warlord · 05-20-2013, 10:57 AM

Sort of sounds like me and Stannis (Autumn) are both subtly feeling out a potential alliance from the main thread.

JAG · 05-20-2013, 10:59 AM

I agree that bringing in additional coin will be useful, though until we see how coin, men, and ships can be used, it will be hard to make detailed plans. We should not neglect the other neutrals though. Barristan Selmy could be a useful protector for King Robb, Varys may be able to aid in intelligence-gathering, and so on.

Coffee Warlord · 05-20-2013, 11:03 AM

Absolutely. I'm sure they're all going to be useful in one way or another.

Since we don't have a clear picture from the rules on that yet, let's shift focus to something we CAN control - tomorrow's vote.

JAG · 05-20-2013, 11:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coffee Warlord

Sort of sounds like me and Stannis (Autumn) are both subtly feeling out a potential alliance from the main thread.

It sounds like he threw out a 3-king alliance offer vs. the Lannisters. That would be a wise way to go, as once the Lannisters are no longer a threat it seems unlikely Stannis would then treat with Renly against us.

Coffee Warlord · 05-20-2013, 11:11 AM

Well, in reality, we're ALL against each other. As much as the King in the North would like to claim the North and only the North, it's not allowed in the rule. At some point, we're going to turn on one another.

If we ignore the RP aspect for a moment, and go cold, hard pragmatism, we'll need to figure who is the most useful ally early, with the understanding whoever we ally with will be an enemy later on.

JAG · 05-20-2013, 11:17 AM

Sure, just saying we're more likely to make it to the end if we make an alliance now rather than sitting back and letting others make alliances against us. A 3 v. 1 suits us well so long as we're not the 1 as it eliminates a rival and gets thus gets us closer to our goal of being the last king / 3 bannermen standing. Then we just need to make sure we're not on the wrong end of a 2 v. 1 following that.

Coffee Warlord · 05-20-2013, 12:22 PM

Now that I have my question about the Hand answered. JAG, unless you utterly don't wanna do it, I'm tapping you as Hand of the King.

Hands of the North have a longer lifespan than Hands from certain other houses, I promise.

Lathum · 05-20-2013, 12:55 PM

So this is Winterfel.

Looks like a good place to burn to the ground someday

Coffee Warlord · 05-20-2013, 01:47 PM

You want me to kill you now or later?

Lathum · 05-20-2013, 01:52 PM

so, umm, CW, you have read the books?

Coffee Warlord · 05-20-2013, 01:54 PM

Ayyyyup.

Like I mentioned up above. My bannermen include 2 people who betray me and 1 I have to behead. Good times!

Coffee Warlord · 05-20-2013, 01:55 PM

Luckily, I am not bound by GRRM's Rule of Being A Stark: You must be a blind idiot.

JAG · 05-20-2013, 02:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coffee Warlord

Now that I have my question about the Hand answered. JAG, unless you utterly don't wanna do it, I'm tapping you as Hand of the King.

Hands of the North have a longer lifespan than Hands from certain other houses, I promise.

I believe I can ably serve you in this manner.

Coffee Warlord · 05-20-2013, 02:02 PM

Though if you say your special ability is "you may burn Winterfell and name yourself King of the North", I'm going to be very upset.

Lathum · 05-20-2013, 02:33 PM

thats my ability!

Coffee Warlord · 05-20-2013, 02:35 PM

Well shit.

Coffee Warlord · 05-20-2013, 04:53 PM

I'm simply bumping this to put House Stark on top. Where it belongs.

Coffee Warlord · 05-20-2013, 06:24 PM

Well, we do know I can send bannermen out on raids.

CONQUEST!

Lathum · 05-20-2013, 07:32 PM

Are we supposed to do something today?

Coffee Warlord · 05-20-2013, 07:35 PM

Waiting for the rules to be posted?

Coffee Warlord · 05-20-2013, 07:41 PM

Really not much point going into deep strategy until we know wtf we can actually do.

MrBug708 · 05-20-2013, 07:52 PM

We can't PM right? Any special abilities/moves we want to share, has to be done here?

Coffee Warlord · 05-20-2013, 07:58 PM

Yeah. I can PM with JAG, as he's my Hand, but that's it, unless there's something goofy involved.

MrBug708 · 05-20-2013, 08:00 PM

Well, death to Jaime Lannister then

Coffee Warlord · 05-20-2013, 08:05 PM

I think we can arrange that.

Coffee Warlord · 05-20-2013, 10:53 PM

Well this just got interesting. Check the rules.

MrBug708 · 05-20-2013, 11:14 PM

I saw some more of it posted...which part were you referring to?

05-20-2013, 01:08 AM	#2
MrBug708 Head Coach Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Whittier	Checking in. I won't be around morning/early afternoon. Deadline time might be hit/miss, at least the next two days

05-20-2013, 06:21 AM	#3
JAG Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: St. Paul, MN	Greetings fellow bannermen and King Robb. Pray excuse me while I am leached and read the last page of rules.

05-20-2013, 08:39 AM	#4
Coffee Warlord Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Colorado Springs	Good doggy!

05-20-2013, 08:48 AM	#5
Coffee Warlord Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Colorado Springs	I find it moderately unnerving that two of my bannermen are people who royally fuck me in the books.

05-20-2013, 09:02 AM	#6
Coffee Warlord Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Colorado Springs	My without even reading the rules since they aren't posted thoughts... One, we need boats. Two, it sure wouldn't suck to get Littlefinger on our side. I've got to guess he's got a boatload of cash, and controlling the money could be a big deal.

05-20-2013, 09:03 AM	#8
Coffee Warlord Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Colorado Springs	OF COURSE YOU WOULD SAY THAT.

05-20-2013, 09:04 AM	#9
Coffee Warlord Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Colorado Springs	FYI - Kings have a special ability and a drawback. I won't say what it is, due to the possibility of spies down the road, but mine's not bad. I want to find out if Hands are public knowledge or not first - if they aren't, I have an amusing idea.

05-20-2013, 09:21 AM	#11
MrBug708 Head Coach Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Whittier	I'm assuming this is before your mother let Jaime Lannister go free and you behead me

05-20-2013, 09:22 AM	#12
Coffee Warlord Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Colorado Springs	See, I'm a little smarter than my literary counterpart. Mom stays at home. Under lock and key.

05-20-2013, 09:29 AM	#13
MrBug708 Head Coach Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Whittier	So, two banner screw you over and you behead a third. We have a great group here!

05-20-2013, 09:52 AM	#16
Coffee Warlord Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Colorado Springs	...Assuming there's a provision in the game to actually do something like that.

05-20-2013, 10:29 AM	#18
MrBug708 Head Coach Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Whittier	Do we get PM ability? Thinking aloud, the lannisters will have the most money, Stannis the most ships, Joffery will probably have the most men. What is our advantage without tipping our hand? We rule the North, Eddard could have been King when he found the Kingslayer with the dead baby. The Lannisters are allied so they are powerful and want to unite the lands. Stannis will preserve his birthright and will not ally with us as he must bend the knee. Our next move will be difficult

05-20-2013, 10:31 AM	#19
MrBug708 Head Coach Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Whittier	Me thinks that Varys will be listening to every word

05-20-2013, 10:39 AM	#20
Coffee Warlord Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Colorado Springs	We've got a chunk of troops, but I have no idea how it compares. It might be a quality vs quantity thing for us. As per some of my abilities, without going into too much detail, we fight better than others when going into battle. At a guess... Lannisters == Money Stannis == Ships Renly == Men Us == Quality

05-20-2013, 10:42 AM	#21
Coffee Warlord Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Colorado Springs	Which is again, why I'm making an early thought that, if possible, Littlefinger might be our best neutral to go after first and foremost. The South is well known for their greed. Wars are fought not only with steel, but with gold and silver. We have the former, we should work to control the latter.

05-20-2013, 10:46 AM	#22
MrBug708 Head Coach Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Whittier	Stannis probably has magic with the Red Priestess

05-20-2013, 10:49 AM	#23
Coffee Warlord Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Colorado Springs	My guess is she either can assassinate someone for him, or act as a bodyguard / seer type deal and root out spies. Former sounds reasonably reasonable.

05-20-2013, 10:57 AM	#24
Coffee Warlord Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Colorado Springs	Sort of sounds like me and Stannis (Autumn) are both subtly feeling out a potential alliance from the main thread.

05-20-2013, 11:03 AM	#26
Coffee Warlord Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Colorado Springs	Absolutely. I'm sure they're all going to be useful in one way or another. Since we don't have a clear picture from the rules on that yet, let's shift focus to something we CAN control - tomorrow's vote.

05-20-2013, 11:11 AM	#28
Coffee Warlord Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Colorado Springs	Well, in reality, we're ALL against each other. As much as the King in the North would like to claim the North and only the North, it's not allowed in the rule. At some point, we're going to turn on one another. If we ignore the RP aspect for a moment, and go cold, hard pragmatism, we'll need to figure who is the most useful ally early, with the understanding whoever we ally with will be an enemy later on.

05-20-2013, 12:22 PM	#30
Coffee Warlord Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Colorado Springs	Now that I have my question about the Hand answered. JAG, unless you utterly don't wanna do it, I'm tapping you as Hand of the King. Hands of the North have a longer lifespan than Hands from certain other houses, I promise.

05-20-2013, 12:55 PM	#31
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	So this is Winterfel. Looks like a good place to burn to the ground someday

05-20-2013, 01:47 PM	#32
Coffee Warlord Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Colorado Springs	You want me to kill you now or later?

05-20-2013, 01:52 PM	#33
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	so, umm, CW, you have read the books?

05-20-2013, 01:54 PM	#34
Coffee Warlord Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Colorado Springs	Ayyyyup. Like I mentioned up above. My bannermen include 2 people who betray me and 1 I have to behead. Good times!

05-20-2013, 01:55 PM	#35
Coffee Warlord Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Colorado Springs	Luckily, I am not bound by GRRM's Rule of Being A Stark: You must be a blind idiot.

05-20-2013, 02:02 PM	#37
Coffee Warlord Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Colorado Springs	Though if you say your special ability is "you may burn Winterfell and name yourself King of the North", I'm going to be very upset.

05-20-2013, 02:33 PM	#38
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	thats my ability!

05-20-2013, 02:35 PM	#39
Coffee Warlord Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Colorado Springs	Well shit.

05-20-2013, 04:53 PM	#40
Coffee Warlord Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Colorado Springs	I'm simply bumping this to put House Stark on top. Where it belongs.