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View Poll Results: If Trump Loses In November, What Do You Think Happens Next
Normal transition of power. He meets with Biden, stays until 1/20, comes to inauguration, etc. 5 5.56%
He doesn't fight the result, but resigns prior to the inauguration. 2 2.22%
He fights the result but gives up shortly before the inauguration (let's define "shortly" as "some time after the EC meets on 12/14") 30 33.33%
He fights the result all the way to January 20th. Has to be physically removed. 12 13.33%
He fights the result for a short time, but gives up and resigns before the inauguration 6 6.67%
He fights the result for a short time, but gives up an then we have a normal transition as per option 1. 30 33.33%
Other. (You know you gotta specify this one.) 5 5.56%
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Old 12-12-2020, 08:21 AM   #751
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Twitter is turning off commenting and liking on his posts that mention the election. He’s got to be out of his mind.

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Old 12-12-2020, 08:25 AM   #752
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So, the two big dates left are the EC voting on Monday and Congress accepting the results on Jan. 6th.

There are a lot of MAGA House members who would be fine having a vote on accepting the results. They would lose, of course. But they would be happy to fight.

But, apparently, you need an objection from a House member AND a Senator to even get a vote. And I don't think that McConnell wants his members having to go on record with a vote. They don't get the benefit of gerrymandered districts when they run for reelection.

So my guess is that McConnell is happy for all of the norm-busting that Trump has done, but he's ready for it to end.

And I've always felt that McConnell is pulling Trump's strings more than people realize (A very smart puppetmaster with a very stupid puppet).

So I think that McConnell will backchannel to the WH that it is time for Trump to acknowledge that Biden will be President, while continuing to deny his legitimacy. And he'll make Trump think that it is all his idea.
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Old 12-12-2020, 08:26 AM   #753
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dola--so number 3 above, with more whining--like Edward said.
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Old 12-12-2020, 09:22 AM   #754
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Twitter is turning off commenting and liking on his posts that mention the election. He’s got to be out of his mind.
Huh? I’m not seeing this...
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Old 12-12-2020, 09:25 AM   #755
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Huh? I’m not seeing this...
They turned it back on. This morning you couldn't like or comment on his tweets.
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Old 12-12-2020, 09:38 AM   #756
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So apparently the leader of the Proud Boys was invited to a meeting at the White House this morning
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Old 12-12-2020, 09:46 AM   #757
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On the one hand, how disgusting.

On the other hand, it's not McConnel or Graham or Bill Barr. When the Proud Boys are the only people left returning your calls, you really need to take the hint.
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Old 12-12-2020, 10:05 AM   #758
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Old 12-12-2020, 10:08 AM   #759
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This is a stupid deranged unhinged man who knows the moment he's out of office he's in danger to criminal and financial investigations.

He's going to fight using all resources to control the government (he had 125 stupid assholes join him in his Supreme Court gambit, they should all be removed from office).

His followers are going to be more deranged and dangerous as he escalates further.

The run-offs have to go blue or this will get much worse.
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Old 12-12-2020, 11:37 AM   #760
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They do what now?

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Old 12-12-2020, 02:13 PM   #761
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....him?
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Old 12-12-2020, 02:23 PM   #762
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I think they called the guy from the John Lennon conspiracy theory by mistake
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Old 12-12-2020, 04:12 PM   #763
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He looks like a Red Skelton impersonator.
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Old 12-12-2020, 04:44 PM   #764
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Old 12-12-2020, 04:50 PM   #765
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I think they called the guy from the John Lennon conspiracy theory by mistake

It's the glasses. But closer to Lennon than JFK Jr.

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Old 12-12-2020, 05:20 PM   #766
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Ben Stein can keep his money.

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Old 12-12-2020, 08:38 PM   #767
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You read it! You can't unread it!

But honestly I thought Ben Stein was dead.
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Old 12-12-2020, 08:48 PM   #768
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Old 12-12-2020, 09:05 PM   #769
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If we're all sleeping comfortably in our beds we can't fight trump! That's the nefarious plan!
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Old 12-12-2020, 09:34 PM   #770
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In case there was any question about their racist foundations, the Proud Boys are going around D.C. tearing down and burning BLM banners, some of them from churches.
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Old 12-12-2020, 09:39 PM   #771
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No one questioned that that the Proud Boys are racist. I don't even think they deny it.
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In case there was any question about their racist foundations, the Proud Boys are going around D.C. tearing down and burning BLM banners, some of them from churches.

You can be anti-BLM w/o being racist.
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Old 12-12-2020, 11:14 PM   #773
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Yes, but you can't be a Proud Boy without being racist.
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Old 12-12-2020, 11:46 PM   #774
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Rushing to defend an openly racist neo-fascist group.
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Old 12-13-2020, 12:18 AM   #775
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Don't see those armored tanks and tear gas for these right wing riots tonight. Strange how that works.
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Don't see those armored tanks and tear gas for these right wing riots tonight. Strange how that works.

It wasn't the white time to use teargas and tanks.
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Old 12-13-2020, 08:40 AM   #777
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Old 12-13-2020, 10:39 AM   #778
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I wonder how many people caught covid in these protests/riots and counter-protests.
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Old 12-13-2020, 10:42 AM   #779
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An understated, I think, part of all this is how Biden is just not reacting to anything.

Trump needs chaos. He needs the fight to keep going. He gains power when you fight back. It's the classic "when you mud wrestle a pig, you both get dirty, but the pig enjoys it." Biden isn't getting down into the dirt with him.
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Old 12-13-2020, 10:43 AM   #780
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I imagine some, Nobody. Being outside helps cut it down, and the masked groups help as well. Probably less than a large group in a small area with no mask, but more than none.

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Old 12-13-2020, 12:55 PM   #781
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Ben needs to add a new poll option:

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Old 12-13-2020, 01:08 PM   #782
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That's an opinion of a non-trumpian lawyer, btw. Not someone fron his team, or even sources from his people. Not saying it is wrong, just that it is a guess.

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Old 12-13-2020, 01:10 PM   #783
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If Trump tried that I believe he would be breaking the law.

I get Biden not going after Trump for the things Trump did in office, although I think he should, but if Trump attempts to govern once Biden takes over that absolutely would have to be stomped out.
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Old 12-13-2020, 01:16 PM   #784
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That's an opinion of a non-trumpian lawyer, btw. Not someone fron his team, or even sources from his people. Not saying it is wrong, just that it is a guess.

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Oh yeah, that isn't the campaign. That's just a guess.

I think that Trump won't do that. He will be President-In-Exile-and-God-Emperor-Trump. But I don't think he'll have a fake oath of office administered.

He has to walk up to the line where he looks strong but not stupid to his supporters.

Shit posting on Twitter about how much better he'd be as president and pointing out that he should be president is one thing. Actually having, like, fake presidential seals made and stuff is another.
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"giant jurists" floored me.
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Old 12-13-2020, 02:06 PM   #787
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Trump says no judge has ruled on evidence. He is wrong. Judge Ludwig, who Trump appointed just months ago, said the President had standing in his court. He then ruled against him pretty harshly based on merit.

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Old 12-13-2020, 02:08 PM   #788
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Ben needs to add a new poll option:


I guess I should have went and bet on this in Vegas back on8/22 when I called it.

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Funny I was just thinking about this question this morning myself. I think it is very likely even with the vote by mail suppression BS he losers at least by 2-3% popular vote and losers a few key states such as Florida, NC, Pennsylvania,Michigan and Minnesota that give Biden the EC victory.
I think "he fights the result all the way to January 20th. Has to be physically removed." and he stages as a patriotic act to his supporters. I think he then keeps traveling the country claiming he won and is the legitimate president to his base doing interviews and trying to stay in the media focus. He will set up shop in some place like Mel Largo and declare he is the rightful president as a modern day Jefferson Davis. I could see right wing domestic terrorist carrying out bombings and the like in his name too. The question and am not sure what happens is what will the federal government do in this sceanrio.

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Old 12-13-2020, 06:34 PM   #789
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It wasn't the white time to use teargas and tanks.

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The days between tomorrow's EC vote and 1/20 could be quite problematic with Trump directing any federal response to violence/riots and pressuring red-state politicians to take it easy on the "patriots."
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Old 12-13-2020, 09:21 PM   #790
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trump has given some insights into his plan going forward. He will call Biden the illegitimate President and everything that he says will go from there. I'm not sure he'll go so far as to take an oath of office separate, but he's dangerously close to criminal behavior. I think he's too stupid to keep from crossing the line after Jan 20th as well. He is already fueling the flames for people who have little reservation about killing in the name of trump. It's coming. I hope when that happens, and he's not the president, that he's arrested and charged.
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Old 12-14-2020, 06:46 AM   #791
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Parler and Qanon folks losing their shit over the google outage
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Old 12-14-2020, 08:22 AM   #792
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I just saw a CBS poll that 48% of Republicans say Trump should not concede and should do whatever it takes to remain in office. The only thing that will keep us from an outbreak of numerous mass casualty incidents is the hope that, like those of us sitting at our computer while Trump does things we never thought he'd do instead of taking to the streets, the vast majority of these MAGA pu$$ies do nothing but cry to each other on social media after Biden takes over, and eventually things go back to some sort of normal.

There will still be threats and a few violent incidents, but I'm hoping the complacency of Americans and not wanting to upend pretty decent personal situations will keep most of the possible action from actually happening.
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Old 12-14-2020, 09:27 AM   #793
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This kind of crap cannot just continue to be allowed.

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Huh. I missed this.

Twitter Confirms Trump Could Be Banned After Inauguration Day For Repeated Violations
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This kind of crap cannot just continue to be allowed.



The Michigan GOP has already removed him from all committee assignments.
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Parler and Qanon folks losing their shit over the google outage

They do that over the arrival of a day ending in the letter y though, so meh.
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I think that would go a ways with mitigating some of the stupid. Sure, he'll hold rallies and move to Parler or whatever - but I'm (naively?) hopeful it won't be covered the same way that every network jumps on every single Tweet he makes.

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Next up: pressure on GOP members of Congress to accept votes from "Alternate Electors" in the swing states.

On Fox News, Stephen Miller Says ‘An Alternate Set Of Electors’ Will Certify Trump As Winner
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Heh. Guess who made the announcement in Georgia?

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Next up: pressure on GOP members of Congress to accept votes from "Alternate Electors" in the swing states.

On Fox News, Stephen Miller Says ‘An Alternate Set Of Electors’ Will Certify Trump As Winner
Part of me wanted to think that Miller was just lying.


He wasn't.

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