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Old 08-08-2005, 07:15 PM   #201
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Slow. It's detailed in the dynasty reports forum.
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Old 08-08-2005, 07:15 PM   #202
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Okay...I can see the logic in it as well....however, I hate it when people make statements like that.

If you don't agree with it, you're evil!!!!!!

Don't you think the wolves are reading that and will agree so they don't out themselves?

Yes but it gives us more time to find who they are without losing someone because we are being impulsive, I'd rather die by the claw than by my fellow villagers because it only breeds more confusion and resentment.
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Old 08-08-2005, 07:17 PM   #203
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Yes but it gives us more time to find who they are without losing someone because we are being impulsive, I'd rather die by the claw than by my fellow villagers because it only breeds more confusion and resentment.
True. If it's tied, I say we keep it that way. Though I'm all about my innocence.
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Old 08-08-2005, 07:20 PM   #204
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Yes but it gives us more time to find who they are without losing someone because we are being impulsive, I'd rather die by the claw than by my fellow villagers because it only breeds more confusion and resentment.
Well, now that I think about it, you're right. It will give people time to identify other people (as the seer or whatnot).

But since you didn't say that argument, I'd just attribute that to your playstyle. Ugh. I remember the X-Com WW.
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Old 08-08-2005, 07:20 PM   #205
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All right guys, heading out. Be back in about 2-3 hours.
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Old 08-08-2005, 07:24 PM   #206
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Vote totals, looks like 3 people are tied right now:

Briand - Lathum
Superman - MrBug
Ardent - (4)Schmidty, Coffee Warlord, qwikshot, superman
RealDeal - Blade6119
Hoopsguy - Kingfc22
Qwikshot - (4)hoopsguy, eaglesfan27, RealDeal, ardent
digamma - BrianD
Raiders Army - fouts
Mr. Wednesday - SnDvls
Sndvls - (2)dubb93, Mr. Wednesday
Eaglesfan27 - Vince
Lathum - digamma
fouts - (4)henry296, Raiders Army, jeff061, jeff061

Keep in mind that if you have the Ring of Wisdom you need to PM me if you want to use it today, same with the Ring of Visions though that is one-shot.
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Old 08-08-2005, 07:28 PM   #207
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Keep in mind that if you have the Ring of Wisdom you need to PM me if you want to use it today, same with the Ring of Visions though that is one-shot.

Intrigue!!!!
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Old 08-08-2005, 07:36 PM   #208
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I think it was RealDeal who pointed this out earlier - there was some movement (not all of it Jeff) after Qwik was up to four votes. Just something to ponder if we end up lynching someone else who turns out to be a villager. And, yes, I know this cuts both ways.

Edited to correct spelling.

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Old 08-08-2005, 07:48 PM   #209
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just over an hour correct if I have my time change right, until voting ends.
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Old 08-08-2005, 07:49 PM   #210
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just over an hour correct if I have my time change right, until voting ends.

Nope only 10 minutes.
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Old 08-08-2005, 07:50 PM   #211
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Nope only 10 minutes.


okay 8PM eastern is 5PM AZ...thanks
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Old 08-08-2005, 07:50 PM   #212
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dola

it's that whole, we don't change our clocks thing. I don't have to figure it out much.
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Old 08-08-2005, 07:53 PM   #213
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Interesting, it will be a no lynch unless someone changes their vote in the next few minutes.
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Old 08-08-2005, 07:54 PM   #214
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If we don't lynch tonight, unless a seer gets lucky and then outs themselves we still have nothing to go on tomorrow.

Therefore, UNVOTE Fouts
VOTE qwikshot

Although I am putting myself on a limb, I really feel this is best for all us villagers. There is one other villager who can vouch that I am a good guy.
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Old 08-08-2005, 08:01 PM   #215
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Well dude, ballsy move, hope you were right.
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Old 08-08-2005, 08:10 PM   #216
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It still may be tied if someone uses their ring-a-ding-ding.
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Old 08-08-2005, 08:24 PM   #217
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Yeah, that was gutsy as hell Henry -- you just took a giant step forward as a candidate if Qwik isn't a bad guy.

Although RA makes a good point -- there might be some secret votes going on.
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Old 08-08-2005, 08:27 PM   #218
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Well the rings have to be used during the normal voting period, so they're done. Note for tomorrow, if you want to use a ring during voting, PM me during the day.

Final voting

Briand - Lathum
Superman - MrBug
Ardent - (4)Schmidty, Coffee Warlord, qwikshot, superman
RealDeal - Blade6119
Hoopsguy - Kingfc22
Qwikshot - (5)hoopsguy, eaglesfan27, RealDeal, ardent, henry296
digamma - BrianD
Raiders Army - fouts
Mr. Wednesday - SnDvls
Sndvls - (2)dubb93, Mr. Wednesday
Eaglesfan27 - Vince
Lathum - digamma
fouts - (3) Raiders Army, jeff061, jeff061

The villagers argue all day and just about everyone is mentioned as a potential suspect. In the end it takes a last minute vote change for Qwikshot to be named the victim. He seems strangely silent as he is strung up, as if sure he wouldn't be able to change anyone's minds at this point. It turns out to be all for the best though, as Qwikshot was a Sorceror! Qwikshot had the Notebook of the Detective, which has been given to the King for distribution.


Night 1

Lathum
kingfc22
sundvls
blade6119
Coffee Warlord
Henry296
BrianD
digamma
eaglesfan27
hoopsguy
fouts
schmidty
dubb93
vince
Qwikshot - Lynched Day 1 - Sorceror
RealDeal
Jeff061
Raiders Army
Mr. Wednesday
MrBug708
Superman=#54
ardent enthusiast

You have until midnight to get in the werewolf kill, as well as any item actions you want to do tonight. That includes items you want to activate (and who you want to use them on) and items you want to pass, and who you want to pass them to. PM me if you have any questions and read the order of events in the first post if you're not sure how things will go down!

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Old 08-08-2005, 08:28 PM   #219
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Wow.
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Old 08-08-2005, 08:28 PM   #220
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A just breathed a deep sigh of relief.
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Old 08-08-2005, 08:29 PM   #221
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Huh, well how bout that. Nice job on that. Still don't get why you took the chance.
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Old 08-08-2005, 08:30 PM   #222
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Nice work, Henry. Off to a very solid start.
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Old 08-08-2005, 08:32 PM   #223
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well very gutsy call for sure, but the right one it turns out. Hope we all make it through the night.
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Old 08-08-2005, 08:33 PM   #224
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Huh, well how bout that. Nice job on that. Still don't get why you took the chance.

I really felt our odds were just as good tonight as tomorrow in lynching a bad guy without giving the wolves a free kill. Notice it was qwikshot a bad guy who really advocated the tie vote.
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Old 08-08-2005, 08:33 PM   #225
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A sorceror, not "THE" sorceror - reading too much into this or does this sound like the apprentice decided to go the sorceror route as well?
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Old 08-08-2005, 08:34 PM   #226
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Very ballsy decision, we salute you Henry. Great work.
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Old 08-08-2005, 08:41 PM   #227
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Well I hate to rain on Henry but it smells fishy to me.

The wolves don't know who the sorcerer is, so I consider it a strong possibility that ardent or fouts is a wolf. If henry is a wolf it would be a clever move to switch because it would seem WAY to obvious. By doing this he deflects any possible last minute switches that would kill a wolf.

I think it is just dumb luck we got the sorcerer, so it makes Henry look even better.

I think whoever has the power should watch Henry tonight.

That is all, I will now go take a bath in A1 because I am probably dinner.
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Old 08-08-2005, 08:47 PM   #228
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What makes you think you're going down, Lathum?

Good work Henry, by the way.
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Old 08-08-2005, 09:03 PM   #229
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Heh, I forgot something important - when Qwikshot was killed, he had the Notebook of the Detective. This has now been given to King Jeff061 who will distribute it tonight.
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Old 08-08-2005, 09:07 PM   #230
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Old 08-08-2005, 09:07 PM   #231
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Old 08-08-2005, 09:10 PM   #232
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Crown of the King – [Crown] It is public knowledge who owns the crown. The owner of the crown cannot be lynched (but may be eaten) and owner may not pass the Crown (who would willingly abdicate the throne?). The owner of the Crown's vote counts double for lynching, their single vote counts as two votes, and may not be split between different players. When another player is lynched or eaten then that player’s items go to the owner of the crown (assuming that the wolves do not keep the items they found on their victim). The owner of the Crown then must pass those items (except for the Silver).

OK, not to tick off the king - but did anyone see anything in the rules that indicated that the crown must start with a non-wolf? If the items are assigned randomly, couldn't the Crown have ended up in the hands of the wolves or Sorcerors?

I would really like to have this be a baseless concern, as it would be great to have one player on my list to not worry about in this game for a period of time. Of course, the wolves could use the Sword of the Pirate to take the Crown and get the extra vote + lynch protection.

Anyone using the Pirate Sword to assume the Crown is likely to be a big, fat target of the remaining villager items if they don't have an overwhelming argument for why they are just an honest villager trying to help the cause.
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Old 08-08-2005, 09:11 PM   #233
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Unless someone has any better ideas, I'm going to more or less random this thing away.
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Old 08-08-2005, 09:17 PM   #234
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There is one other villager who can vouch that I am a good guy

Henry, how would another villager be able to vouch for you? I didn't see any kind of seer powers that work during the day.

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Ring of Wisdom
Ring of Vision
Saber
Staff

Rings = double votes
Saber = Duel, none took place
Staff = Lightning wound, none took place

Rules also state there are no special roles assigned to villagers. Nor are there any items with PM powers that can be used by villagers until night. So ... help me out here. How would there be another villager that can vouch for you?
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Old 08-08-2005, 09:20 PM   #235
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Well Hoops isn't getting it!! .

In any case what you said I believe is true. All I can do is my best to put the villagers in a position to win. But yeah, I'll likely be dodging bullets with people discriminating my every vote and who I give items out to.
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Old 08-08-2005, 09:23 PM   #236
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You can pass it to me...after all, you'll notice I'm passing you a silver piece.
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Old 08-08-2005, 09:23 PM   #237
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By the way, thanks for not lynching me. Mucho appreciated.
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Old 08-08-2005, 09:27 PM   #238
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The item that I have gives me the power to talk with another person in the village. Based on our conversations today that person hopefully believes that I am a villager.
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Old 08-08-2005, 09:27 PM   #239
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I suppose I'll give it to Hoops afterall, he's put some good thought in today.

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Henry, how would another villager be able to vouch for you? I didn't see any kind of seer powers that work during the day.

I'd like this answered as well....
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Old 08-08-2005, 09:29 PM   #240
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The item that I have gives me the power to talk with another person in the village. Based on our conversations today that person hopefully believes that I am a villager.

ah.

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Robe of the Priest – [Robe] The owner of the Robe may take one other player into the “confessional” each day and conducted unlimited PM’s with that player. The same player cannot be take into the confessional on back to back days.

For those that are wondering. Still not sure how that absolves him of guilt.
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Old 08-08-2005, 09:29 PM   #241
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Unless someone has any better ideas, I'm going to more or less random this thing away

Didn't you vote for Ardent in Post #166 out of resentment for his use of a random number generator in an earlier WW?

Although by taking me out of the mix it is not purely random ...

FWIW, I don't have any real reason to think that you are not a villager - it is statistically improbable for the crown to fall into evil hands out of the gate. But if Peregrine was looking to spice up the game then ... who knows.

At the moment I'm more intrigued about the answer to my Henry question.

Of course, asking questions like this on Day 1 is what got me converted in X-Com ...
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Old 08-08-2005, 09:29 PM   #242
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I suppose I'll give it to Hoops afterall, he's put some good thought in today...
Fair enough.
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Old 08-08-2005, 09:31 PM   #243
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Hmmm ... you sure about that, Henry?

Peregrine, if there has been a screwup on the item activation I'm going to feel bad about targetting Henry. If not, then ...
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Old 08-08-2005, 09:32 PM   #244
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Hehe, I have a feeling I'd lose my crown real quick for selling items .

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Curse you. It went to you in non-random fashion though .
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Old 08-08-2005, 09:33 PM   #245
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Hmmm ... you sure about that, Henry?

Peregrine, if there has been a screwup on the item activation I'm going to feel bad about targetting Henry. If not, then ...

Yeah, unless there's been a mistake I suspect tomorrow will be an easy lynching.
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Old 08-08-2005, 09:35 PM   #246
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If someone wants to step forward and suggest they chatted with Henry today that would make things more ... interesting.

1.) There was a goof-up on the item and it was listed incorrectly. In which case Henry did talk during the day to someone.
2.) There was no mix-up at all, but a wolf decides to try and help out Henry.
3.) There was a goof-up on the item, it was listed incorrectly, but Henry talked to a wolf who is laughing his way to the bank at Henry being hung out to dry here.

Anyone else have another scenario I'm missing?
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Old 08-08-2005, 09:38 PM   #247
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Nice work, henry.

Boy, stop by the grocery store on the way home from work and you miss a lot.
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Old 08-08-2005, 09:40 PM   #248
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There will be no Night 0 in this game, though I may allow a couple of items to be activated retroactively the first day, I will let you know this.

This was posted by Peregrine in Post 70. He let me retroactively choose someone to talk with until midnight tonight.
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Old 08-08-2005, 09:41 PM   #249
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4.) Goof up by Henry and a real villager...both don't realize the item can't be activated until night?

Or is that covered elsewhere?
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Old 08-08-2005, 09:50 PM   #250
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Well, I guess this "rookie" has been vindicated. I would suggest now examining the people who changed votes away from Qwik when the voting was tight.
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