Official College Football Thread - Week 13 - Page 7

Chief Rum · 11-27-2011, 02:30 AM

Rick, you're a great Bruin. You're also an awful head coach. Bye-bye now.

dzilla77 · 11-27-2011, 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Easy Mac

he has 2

Didn't realize Georgia Tech fans were taking credit for PJ's 1-AA NCs at Georgia Southern.

Easy Mac · 11-27-2011, 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by dzilla77

Didn't realize Georgia Tech fans were taking credit for PJ's 1-AA NCs at Georgia Southern.

Who's a GT fan? I especially hate Georgia Southern... but the statement was:

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Didn't realize PJ had any D1 NC's. I think by the real count is 0-0.

So, I think that's the reason I responded.

JonInMiddleGA · 11-27-2011, 12:00 PM

AP poll is out ... LSU unanimous #1, Alabama unanimous #2

Buccaneer · 11-27-2011, 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

AP poll is out ... LSU unanimous #1, Alabama unanimous #2

The only poll that has always mattered, imo.

Suicane75 · 11-27-2011, 12:14 PM

Bah, give VT or Houston a chance.

Ben E Lou · 11-27-2011, 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

AP poll is out ... LSU unanimous #1, Alabama unanimous #2

Heh. Brad Edwards is now predicting that even if the unfathomable happens in Atlanta, it's still looking like LSU-Alabama because LSU wouldn't drop far enough with a loss to a 10-win UGA team to knock them out of the title game.

LSU Tigers, Alabama Crimson Tide clear No. 1 and 2 in Associated Press Top 25 poll - ESPN

cuervo72 · 11-27-2011, 01:08 PM

Was wondering that.

Was also just wondering if LSU does beat Georgia as expected if they should even need to beat Alabama again. I know they will have to beat them again, but why should they?

(I realize that this doesn't jibe with any previous playoff calls I may have had)

Ben E Lou · 11-27-2011, 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by cuervo72

Was wondering that.

Was also just wondering if LSU does beat Georgia as expected if they should even need to beat Alabama again. I know they will have to beat them again, but why should they?

(I realize that this doesn't jibe with any previous playoff calls I may have had)

How do you even define "should" in this situation? Is it based on "right" being hte current rule set? Is it based on "right" being the rule set that you think should be in place? That I think should be in place?

But really, from the great majority of angles, yes, they should. Based on the current rules, yes, they should have to beat them again. You gotta win that last game to win it all. Based on how some think it should be--a playoff system--yes, they should have to beat them again. You'd have to win that last game to win it all. Unless there's an allowance in the rules for a committee to simply crown a clear-cut number one with them having to play a Bowl Game, then they should.

Now, I don't know the rules, but are the voters required to go with the winner of the final game as their #1? Specifically, what happens if Bama beats LSU by a FG in overtime??? Would voters be allowed to vote a tie for first, or is it a required winner-take-all?

Swaggs · 11-27-2011, 01:27 PM

It's hard to put anyone ahead of LSU, even if they lose.

If they lose next week, it would have been to the SEC champion (and Georgia would probably jump into the top 6 or 8 then). They would have beaten the likely Pac 12 Champ in Oregon at a neutral site, the possible Big East champ in WVU on the road, the #2 (or #1) on the road in Alabama, and two other top 10 teams in Arkansas and South Carolina. There is just no way you can look at Stanford, VPI, Houston, or anyone else (with their wins and schedules) and put them ahead of a 1-loss LSU with wins over half the top 10.

JPhillips · 11-27-2011, 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Ben E Lou

Heh. Brad Edwards is now predicting that even if the unfathomable happens in Atlanta, it's still looking like LSU-Alabama because LSU wouldn't drop far enough with a loss to a 10-win UGA team to knock them out of the title game.

LSU Tigers, Alabama Crimson Tide clear No. 1 and 2 in Associated Press Top 25 poll - ESPN

So that would mean one less at-large team? Has that exception been spelled out in the "only two team per conference" rule? I think that would mean either Michigan or Stanford would get left out.

DeToxRox · 11-27-2011, 01:42 PM

Yep, If UGA wins then Michigan is likely left out of the BCS.

Ben E Lou · 11-27-2011, 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Swaggs

It's hard to put anyone ahead of LSU, even if they lose.

If they lose next week, it would have been to the SEC champion (and Georgia would probably jump into the top 6 or 8 then). They would have beaten the likely Pac 12 Champ in Oregon at a neutral site, the possible Big East champ in WVU on the road, the #2 (or #1) on the road in Alabama, and two other top 10 teams in Arkansas and South Carolina. There is just no way you can look at Stanford, VPI, Houston, or anyone else (with their wins and schedules) and put them ahead of a 1-loss LSU with wins over half the top 10.

Heh, ok then. Edwards didn't spell it out like that, but when you put it that way, it does seem to clear the way for a one-loss LSU. I suppose it's possible that one of the one-loss teams playing in a conf. championship wins 70-0 and leapfrogs Bama, or the late-season-loss bias hurts LSU in the human polls...

But really, 11 out of 12 games this year, UGA hasn't looked capable of staying within 3 TDs of LSU. It would require 6 or 8 guys to have the game of their life the same week for this to actually happen.

Swaggs · 11-27-2011, 01:51 PM

Are the top 4 teams still guaranteed a spot in the BCS (aside from the multiple teams from the same conference stuff)? If so, Stanford is probably in decent shape to earn an auto bid. They were 6th last week and will presumably jump Arkansas this week and have a shot to move up if Virginia Tech loses to Clemson again or Oklahoma State loses to Oklahoma.

cartman · 11-27-2011, 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by JPhillips

So that would mean one less at-large team? Has that exception been spelled out in the "only two team per conference" rule? I think that would mean either Michigan or Stanford would get left out.

Yep, they have the exception in place. If the top two teams are from the same conference, and a 3rd team is the conference champion, then three teams from the same conference can make it.

cartman · 11-27-2011, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Ben E Lou

Now, I don't know the rules, but are the voters required to go with the winner of the final game as their #1? Specifically, what happens if Bama beats LSU by a FG in overtime??? Would voters be allowed to vote a tie for first, or is it a required winner-take-all?

The coaches and Harris poll are required to vote the BCS championship game winner as #1. AP is free to vote for whoever they want.

JonInMiddleGA · 11-27-2011, 01:57 PM

re: top 4 teams guaranteed?

BCS selection procedures

5. If any of the 10 slots remain open after application of provisions 1 through 4, and an at-large team from a conference with an annual automatic berth for its champion is ranked No. 3 in the final BCS Standings, that team will become an automatic qualifier, provided that no at-large team from the same conference qualifies for the national championship game.

6. If any of the 10 slots remain open after application of provisions 1 through 5, and if no team qualifies under paragraph No. 5 and an at-large team from a conference with an annual automatic berth for its champion is ranked No. 4 in the final BCS Standings, that team will become an automatic qualifier provided that no at-large team from the same conference qualifies for the national championship game.

larrymcg421 · 11-27-2011, 02:00 PM

Sure glad that there are no playoffs to ruin the importance of regular season games like LSU-Alabama, where it apparently didn't matter one bit who won the game.

JonInMiddleGA · 11-27-2011, 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by larrymcg421

where it apparently didn't matter one bit who won the game.

Only because of the somewhat unusual situation where the clearly two best teams happened to meet during the regular season. Don't get that every year, just count our blessings & carry on.

Ajaxab · 11-27-2011, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Ben E Lou

Now, I don't know the rules, but are the voters required to go with the winner of the final game as their #1? Specifically, what happens if Bama beats LSU by a FG in overtime??? Would voters be allowed to vote a tie for first, or is it a required winner-take-all?

That's a great question. If LSU beats Georgia, it certainly would seem legit to vote for them as national champ as long as they don't get blown out by Alabama. Beating Bama on the road would seem to be worth more than losing on a neutral field. Someone could make the case that the Sugar Bowl isn't truly a neutral venue, but it is still more neutral than playing in Tuscaloosa. If LSU wins this Saturday, they would really have to wet the bed in the BCS championship for me to consider any other team as national champ.

cuervo72 · 11-27-2011, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by larrymcg421

Sure glad that there are no playoffs to ruin the importance of regular season games like LSU-Alabama, where it apparently didn't matter one bit who won the game.

I guess this is my lament, and where it actually seems unfair to LSU. I understand that under current rules they'd have to win and under the logic of "last team to win" they have to win, but taken on the whole they'd be getting the screw a little bit.

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Only because of the somewhat unusual situation where the clearly two best teams happened to meet during the regular season. Don't get that every year, just count our blessings & carry on.

You know...in this situation, I'd actually rather both teams play schools out of the conference. Alabama may well be one of the top two teams (I still don't know how you can say clearly beyond how they played LSU), but I'd still like to see them prove it against someone else. Maybe LSU vs OSU and Bama vs Stanford. I'm fairly sure both would win, but in my mind it would more cement the superiority of the conference. Of course that would do nothing for Alabama's title hopes.

Swaggs · 11-27-2011, 03:01 PM

Looks like the BCS rankings will go LSU, Alabama, Oklahoma State, Stanford, and Virginia Tech this week. It will be interesting to see if Stanford stays in the top 4 (and in line to get an auto bid) if OSU and VPI win next week.

JonInMiddleGA · 11-27-2011, 03:09 PM

Y'know, I really wonder if it isn't time for the polls to be scaled back to a Top 20 instead of 25.

FSU? Seriously?

Don't get me wrong, they'll probably show up in my own poll too but as much as ever I wonder whether there's really anything worth talking about past about 20. The rest of the poll is the equivalent of NASCAR field-filler.

Swaggs · 11-27-2011, 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

Y'know, I really wonder if it isn't time for the polls to be scaled back to a Top 20 instead of 25.

FSU? Seriously?

Don't get me wrong, they'll probably show up in my own poll too but as much as ever I wonder whether there's really anything worth talking about past about 20. The rest of the poll is the equivalent of NASCAR field-filler.

After about 10 weeks, isn't it largely arbitrary outside of the top 8 or 10 anyway?

The only really valuable thing about being in the bottom half of the top 25 is that your highlights are more likely to be shown on ESPN (or like shows) and you get to see your name on the list, which is free publicity for recruiting and brand recognition.

dawgfan · 11-27-2011, 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief Rum

They were hoping no one would recognize them and would forget UCLA was playing inthe game.

As much as I get kind of tired of the "black-out" uniform variations or the newer "white-out" ones, I actually think those UCLA white-outs were not bad.

That said, I hate seeing my Huskies wear white pants with their purple tops and all-whites in road games, so I can understand.

Matthean · 11-27-2011, 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Swaggs

Anyone seen this video of Gus Malzahn's wife at a church luncheon yet?

I'm wondering if she is part of the reason he isn't a head coach yet. She is a nut job.

Bad editing or not. She needs to lay off the caffeine. He was already offered a HC job and turned it down so I don't see she her nuttiness being an issue.

Eaglesfan27 · 11-27-2011, 04:17 PM

Due to family emergency, just watched the USC-UCLA game. It was great seeing USC show how much of a gap really exists still. If Barkley somehow comes back, I like this team's chances to compete for a National Championship next year.

panerd · 11-27-2011, 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Eaglesfan27

Due to family emergency, just watched the USC-UCLA game. It was great seeing USC show how much of a gap really exists still. If Barkley somehow comes back, I like this team's chances to compete for a National Championship next year.

I thought they had one more year of probation?

bhlloy · 11-27-2011, 04:35 PM

Two more years of scholarship reductions but the postseason ban comes off this year

panerd · 11-27-2011, 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by bhlloy

Two more years of scholarship reductions but the postseason ban comes off this year

You're right, they have already missed two seasons on bowls. Wow time flies nowadays!

MizzouRah · 11-27-2011, 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Eaglesfan27

Due to family emergency, just watched the USC-UCLA game. It was great seeing USC show how much of a gap really exists still. If Barkley somehow comes back, I like this team's chances to compete for a National Championship next year.

Hope everything is ok.

I watched most of that game and USC is defnitely in a good place next year if Barkley comes back, which I believe he will.

dawgfan · 11-27-2011, 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by MizzouRah

I watched most of that game and USC is defnitely in a good place next year if Barkley comes back, which I believe he will.

Why would Barkley return? Dude is probably a top-10 pick at this point...

Eaglesfan27 · 11-27-2011, 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by dawgfan

Why would Barkley return? Dude is probably a top-10 pick at this point...

If he comes back, he could win a Heisman, a national championship, and set every USC passing record. He could become known as the most beloved Trojan player ever. Those are the only reasons I could see him passing up the money.

MizzouRah · 11-27-2011, 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by dawgfan

Why would Barkley return? Dude is probably a top-10 pick at this point...

My thoughts are that if he waited one more year, he would be #1 in the draft next season.. although I don't think that matters much anymore as far as $$$ goes.

MrBug708 · 11-27-2011, 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Eaglesfan27

If he comes back, he could win a Heisman, a national championship, and set every USC passing record. He could become known as the most beloved Trojan player ever. Those are the only reasons I could see him passing up the money.

Only a Trojan who has been alive for the glory years of Bush, could label a kid as the most beloved Trojan.

MrBug708 · 11-27-2011, 10:13 PM

Oh and according to Kevin Prince, UCLA won't push for bowl eligibility if/when they lose to Oregon

Matthean · 11-27-2011, 11:34 PM

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Originally Posted by MrBug708

Only a Trojan who has been alive for the glory years of Bush, could label a kid as the most beloved Trojan.

+1. Marcus Allen would be one I could see being more beloved.

Butter · 11-28-2011, 10:07 AM

Wanted to throw in my congrats to Minnesota. They went from possibly being one of the worst teams in the country, to finishing strong. I think between they and Indiana, the bottom feeders are about to see some turnover in the Big Ten.

jbergey22 · 11-28-2011, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Butter_of_69

Wanted to throw in my congrats to Minnesota. They went from possibly being one of the worst teams in the country, to finishing strong. I think between they and Indiana, the bottom feeders are about to see some turnover in the Big Ten.

Certainly an interesting first year for Jerry Kill. And you are right in the fact that the team didnt quit is an optimistic sign going forward. I am not sure on his recruiting skills but every indication is that he is a solid coach and someone the players love.

cuervo72 · 11-28-2011, 12:30 PM

Derp. I'd forgotten about this.

2006 Michigan vs. Ohio State football game - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

RainMaker · 11-28-2011, 01:29 PM

So Alabama's loss to LSU got them a bye to the National Championship.

Every week is a playoff!

molson · 11-28-2011, 01:33 PM

I don't think rematches are the ill that playoffs are going to fix. Was it unfair for the Patriots to have to play the Giants again in the Super Bowl - they had just beaten them a month before!

Matthean · 11-28-2011, 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

Y'know, I really wonder if it isn't time for the polls to be scaled back to a Top 20 instead of 25.

FSU? Seriously?

Don't get me wrong, they'll probably show up in my own poll too but as much as ever I wonder whether there's really anything worth talking about past about 20. The rest of the poll is the equivalent of NASCAR field-filler.

A four loss Auburn team was in the top 25 before facing 'Bama. I view it like I view top QBs in the NFL. Once you get past roughly the top 5, I don't really care. MSU and Michigan are 13 and 16 respectively. I won't put money on either to win a road game against a ranked team.

RainMaker · 11-28-2011, 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by molson

I don't think rematches are the ill that playoffs are going to fix. Was it unfair for the Patriots to have to play the Giants again in the Super Bowl - they had just beaten them a month before!

No, but these are the precise arguments BCS supporters make regarding a playoff. Fiesta Bowl Inc. thanks them.

Mizzou B-ball fan · 11-28-2011, 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by MizzouRah

Not a great game by any means, but we beat KU so that makes it a GREAT game, imo.

jbergey22 · 11-28-2011, 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by RainMaker

No, but these are the precise arguments BCS supporters make regarding a playoff. Fiesta Bowl Inc. thanks them.

We get it. You want the playoff and dont like the current system.

But do you real have to cherry pick extreme examples every other day to try and make a point? It has already been explained that this is based on opinion. There really is no right or wrong answer. Do you want people to tell you the playoff system is perfect and the BCS system sucks? Would that make you happy?

MizzouRah · 11-28-2011, 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Mizzou B-ball fan

jbergey22 · 11-28-2011, 04:05 PM

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Oh come on now. You beat one of the worst D1 college football teams in the land by a closer margin than most teams that played them and you decided to end the rivalry because of greed. Is it really something to feel that great about?

MizzouRah · 11-28-2011, 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by jbergey22

Oh come on now. You beat one of the worst D1 college football teams in the land by a closer margin than most teams that played them and you decided to end the rivalry because of greed. Is it really something to feel that great about?

Next year you guys will be the Kansas of the SEC and will be going through their pain

I hear ya.. isn't the NCAA all about greed nowdays?

If you read my original post I said it wasn't a pretty win, but a win nonetheless.

We usually get our asses kicked in basketball, so it's nice to have something to smile about.

11-27-2011, 02:30 AM	#301
Chief Rum Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Where Hip Hop lives	Rick, you're a great Bruin. You're also an awful head coach. Bye-bye now. __________________ . . I would rather be wrong...Than live in the shadows of your song...My mind is open wide...And now I'm ready to start...You're not sure...You open the door...And step out into the dark...Now I'm ready.

11-27-2011, 12:00 PM	#304
JonInMiddleGA Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Behind Enemy Lines in Athens, GA	AP poll is out ... LSU unanimous #1, Alabama unanimous #2 __________________ "I lit another cigarette. Unless I specifically inform you to the contrary, I am always lighting another cigarette." - from a novel by Martin Amis

11-27-2011, 01:08 PM	#308
cuervo72 Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Maryland	Was wondering that. Was also just wondering if LSU does beat Georgia as expected if they should even need to beat Alabama again. I know they will have to beat them again, but why should they? (I realize that this doesn't jibe with any previous playoff calls I may have had) __________________ null Last edited by cuervo72 : 11-27-2011 at 01:10 PM.

11-27-2011, 01:27 PM	#310
Swaggs Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	It's hard to put anyone ahead of LSU, even if they lose. If they lose next week, it would have been to the SEC champion (and Georgia would probably jump into the top 6 or 8 then). They would have beaten the likely Pac 12 Champ in Oregon at a neutral site, the possible Big East champ in WVU on the road, the #2 (or #1) on the road in Alabama, and two other top 10 teams in Arkansas and South Carolina. There is just no way you can look at Stanford, VPI, Houston, or anyone else (with their wins and schedules) and put them ahead of a 1-loss LSU with wins over half the top 10. __________________ DOWN WITH HATTRICK!!! The RWBL Are you reading In The Bleachers?

11-27-2011, 01:51 PM	#314
Swaggs Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	Are the top 4 teams still guaranteed a spot in the BCS (aside from the multiple teams from the same conference stuff)? If so, Stanford is probably in decent shape to earn an auto bid. They were 6th last week and will presumably jump Arkansas this week and have a shot to move up if Virginia Tech loses to Clemson again or Oklahoma State loses to Oklahoma. __________________ DOWN WITH HATTRICK!!! The RWBL Are you reading In The Bleachers?

11-27-2011, 12:14 PM	#306
Suicane75 Coordinator Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: NJ	Bah, give VT or Houston a chance.

11-27-2011, 01:42 PM	#312
DeToxRox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Michigan	Yep, If UGA wins then Michigan is likely left out of the BCS.

11-27-2011, 01:57 PM	#317
JonInMiddleGA Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Behind Enemy Lines in Athens, GA	re: top 4 teams guaranteed? BCS selection procedures 5. If any of the 10 slots remain open after application of provisions 1 through 4, and an at-large team from a conference with an annual automatic berth for its champion is ranked No. 3 in the final BCS Standings, that team will become an automatic qualifier, provided that no at-large team from the same conference qualifies for the national championship game. 6. If any of the 10 slots remain open after application of provisions 1 through 5, and if no team qualifies under paragraph No. 5 and an at-large team from a conference with an annual automatic berth for its champion is ranked No. 4 in the final BCS Standings, that team will become an automatic qualifier provided that no at-large team from the same conference qualifies for the national championship game. __________________ "I lit another cigarette. Unless I specifically inform you to the contrary, I am always lighting another cigarette." - from a novel by Martin Amis

11-27-2011, 02:00 PM	#318
larrymcg421 Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Georgia	Sure glad that there are no playoffs to ruin the importance of regular season games like LSU-Alabama, where it apparently didn't matter one bit who won the game. __________________ Top 10 Songs of the Year 1955-Present (1976 Added) Franchise Portfolio Draft Winner Fictional Character Draft Winner Television Family Draft Winner Build Your Own Hollywood Studio Draft Winner

11-27-2011, 03:01 PM	#322
Swaggs Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	Looks like the BCS rankings will go LSU, Alabama, Oklahoma State, Stanford, and Virginia Tech this week. It will be interesting to see if Stanford stays in the top 4 (and in line to get an auto bid) if OSU and VPI win next week. __________________ DOWN WITH HATTRICK!!! The RWBL Are you reading In The Bleachers?

11-27-2011, 03:09 PM	#323
JonInMiddleGA Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Behind Enemy Lines in Athens, GA	Y'know, I really wonder if it isn't time for the polls to be scaled back to a Top 20 instead of 25. FSU? Seriously? Don't get me wrong, they'll probably show up in my own poll too but as much as ever I wonder whether there's really anything worth talking about past about 20. The rest of the poll is the equivalent of NASCAR field-filler. __________________ "I lit another cigarette. Unless I specifically inform you to the contrary, I am always lighting another cigarette." - from a novel by Martin Amis

11-27-2011, 04:17 PM	#327
Eaglesfan27 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: New Jersey	Due to family emergency, just watched the USC-UCLA game. It was great seeing USC show how much of a gap really exists still. If Barkley somehow comes back, I like this team's chances to compete for a National Championship next year. __________________ Retired GM of the eNFL 2007 Super Bowl Champion Philadelphia Eagles (19-0 record.) GM of the WOOF 2006 Doggie Bowl Champion Atlantic City Gamblers. GM of the IHOF 2019 and 2022 IHOF Bowl Champion Asheville Axemen.

11-27-2011, 04:35 PM	#329
bhlloy Coordinator Join Date: Nov 2003	Two more years of scholarship reductions but the postseason ban comes off this year

11-27-2011, 10:13 PM	#337
MrBug708 Head Coach Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Whittier	Oh and according to Kevin Prince, UCLA won't push for bowl eligibility if/when they lose to Oregon

11-28-2011, 10:07 AM	#339
Butter Coordinator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Dayton, OH	Wanted to throw in my congrats to Minnesota. They went from possibly being one of the worst teams in the country, to finishing strong. I think between they and Indiana, the bottom feeders are about to see some turnover in the Big Ten. __________________ My listening habits

11-28-2011, 12:30 PM	#341
cuervo72 Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Maryland	Derp. I'd forgotten about this. 2006 Michigan vs. Ohio State football game - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia __________________ null

11-28-2011, 01:29 PM	#342
RainMaker General Manager Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Chicago, IL	So Alabama's loss to LSU got them a bye to the National Championship. Every week is a playoff! Last edited by RainMaker : 11-28-2011 at 01:29 PM.

11-28-2011, 01:33 PM	#343
molson General Manager Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: The Mountains	I don't think rematches are the ill that playoffs are going to fix. Was it unfair for the Patriots to have to play the Giants again in the Super Bowl - they had just beaten them a month before!

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