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Old 04-25-2010, 03:50 PM   #1
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Island of Misfit Toys, Take 6.3 - and an invitation to join in

It's been quite a while since I played an IMT career, and a good deal has changed since I did so. I also have fallen pretty well behind the curve in terms of gameplanning, but from what I hear the more recent FOF game is more welcoming of the concept of "plan around your talent" that seems fairly attractive to me for this sort of thing. Anyway, I'm thinking about giving it a whirl.

Anyhow, I have set up an empty cupboard career -- playing in the Solecismized NFL, a QuikSim through 2009, and starting right after the 2010 draft with the empty-roster Buffalo Bills.

I am intrigued enough by this idea that I thought I'd post the game files, and see if anyone else might be interested in playing along. I honestly don't know what pace I might be able to keep... but we'll see what happens.

Anyway... if you're interested in a different take on FOF, doing some different evaluation of players (a lower grade of guys than you're probably used to), and maybe some collaboration or at least discussion, I'd welcome you to download the files here, and offer your thoughts on what to do from here. I can volunteer that historically, in my IMT careers, the first year tends to put in place an awful lot of guys who stick around for a decade (usually for lack of preferred alternatives) - so year one tends to be pretty important.

If you'd rather just look in and comment, that's fine too, of course. I haven't had a ton of FOF time of late, and it's my hope that I can maybe learn a bit more about the new game with this effort.

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Old 04-25-2010, 04:02 PM   #2
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Oh, for the uninitiated, the Island of Misfit Toys concept is to build a team completely around undrafted rookie free agents. No player will join this team other than as a rookie who went undrafted. As you might imagine, I have turned off GM firing for this career, as this is usually a pretty long haul toward respectability. In previous versions, I have won titles with IMT teams, but if often felt much more like an exercise in happenstance... landing a creeper or six at the right positions was the real way to get somewhere. That may still be the case, but one thing I always find in these IMT careers is that I learn something about the lower-level players -- especially since many of them are getting tons of playing time, unlike on a more conventional team. So, in case you were wondering what the concept is -- there you have it.

A few previous attempts at (or discussion of) the same concept:

FOF 2004 - Return to the Island of Misfit Toys - Front Office Football Central

FOF4 - Island of Misfit Toys - Front Office Football Central
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Old 04-25-2010, 04:21 PM   #3
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Before I let the thought get away, I will plant a seed right away. Before I exited the draft screen, I sorted the remaining QB by Solecismic test score, expecting just to note the top handful of guys so I could go look them up -- as I fully expect this team to be a "try not to lose the game" style, at least initially. Anyway, the top of the heap was this guy...who turns out to have four blue combines to go along with that 38 test score.



So, left to my own devices... I'd probably say that this guy was a lock to creep at least a bit in camp, and I would be thinking he's the very likely opening day starter. I suspect most of those zero-looking bars are phony, but I haven't given thought to what he might eventually look like, based on those combines. He does have pretty reasonable sense rush skills (a true rating) so it's at least possible to be thinking about an offensive line with mostly run-blocking skills.

Just a quick thought...
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Old 04-25-2010, 06:47 PM   #4
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Okay... let's see if we can start off with another "maybe you didn't know this" tidbit. Did you know that after the draft, your scout actually sees the current and future ratings, bar-by-bar, of every rookie? All *we* see is the blue (or orange) bars projecting some sort of distorted future projection... but the scout already sees what he thinks is really going on. Now, how do we get him to cough up some of that information?

Work with me here...

Do a Recommend of free agents, seasons 1 to 2, sorted by Current Special Teams rating. Actually, this will likely yield us some useful players anyway - a guy with serious ST skill will always be os at least some use, so why not start building cohesion here and now while we have open tryouts?

Anyway... check out the sorted list. FB Russell Small doesn't have the run blocking I look for in a FB, but he's at least a notch or two above Donaldson's 74 (including the 2nd yr guys is the way to anchor our information here), and that's pretty solid. but that's not really all that exciting -- his blue bar already suggested big potential in ST, so this would have been a target guy for that purpose anyway.

Now, look a few guys further down that sort. What about rookie TE Les Meek? He's sorted here as having a current ST between 63 and 74... but his blue bar is only something like 30-63. Maybe not a shock, but it's at least possible that this guy's "true" ST bar is something like 60/70 right now, and that blue bar is a phony underrating of his actual skill/potential.

This isn't the most jarring example I have ever seen, but it's a useful tool to sort through rookies. When I see a guy who has an *actual* rating that's demonstrably better than his supposed *future* (blue/orange) rating, I figure that guy might be hiding something good, and maybe he's worth a look.

On this team, I reckon both Small and Meek are worth a contract offer.
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Old 04-25-2010, 07:15 PM   #5
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Curious case in OLB Ray Israelson. He has three bars of note, and they are all pretty good ones if we were to slot him at the weak side of a 3-4 front: PR Tech (68-100), PS Strength (48-78), and Punishing Hitter (63-98).

However, the scout doesn't even pick him up when sorting by current PR Tech, so he's no better than a 9/XX there right now. And that 4.70 dash doesn't really back up the pass rushing skill, either. On a normal team, probably not worth a real look... on this team, probably not mush downside, but I don't think this is a guy worth building our formation around. The 3-4 front might still make more sense, given the likely paucity of the talent we'll see at DL.
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Old 04-25-2010, 07:41 PM   #6
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A few candidates for chemistry leaders -- one way this team has to get an edge is through chemistry, so landing some high-personality position leaders (with secure leadership ratings) would make sense here. These are the oldest guys we'll ever see on the team, so might as well make it count.

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POS Player Group Ldr Prs Rated Notes on Skills RB Patrick Scott 10-11 98 100 24/35 Not terrible, endurance LG Roc McClain 1-2 97 100 12/35 Run blocker, 4.07 dash WR Edward Lee 1-2 96 95 11/28 Looks terrible RB Harry Maloney 9-10 96 77 19/28 minor ST, 3rd down skills SS Otis Robinson 3-4 94 93 10/26 some man coverage, KR DE Lonnie Coffey 11-12 93 86 17/37 PR Tech, endurance LT Raymond Hoover 10-11 93 81 12/28 Some Bl Str, not much TE Vernon Manning 1-2 90 98 8/18 some ST WR Renaldo Nastasi 5-6 90 97 12/22 medium BPR, some others DE Justin Godfrey 8-9 87 99 15/36 run D, 7.30 Ag, only 260 lbs RB Gary Michalewicz 1-2 86 83 11/12 nothing to see CB Gary Kawaguchi 5-6 85 85 11/21 some zone, 45 pos drill

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Old 04-25-2010, 07:58 PM   #7
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It wouldn't be a ridiculous move to decide to pick up G McClain, WR Lee, and TE Manning as offensive position leaders (we'd have to position switch someone to RB/FB). That way we'd have all three group leader in sync, enabling two things:

1) it's just easier to remember to look for the 9-10 and 12-1 guys, and to avoid the (whoever) guys at all offensive positions

2) we can grab multi-affinity guys at QB who can triple up with that group

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Old 04-26-2010, 05:51 AM   #8
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FB Small seems to have better current ratings in several areas than his blues would suggest...
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Old 04-26-2010, 06:03 AM   #9
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Intriguing concept to play with though I'd probably be horrible at it, especially since I haven't moved to latest 6.3b version
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Old 04-26-2010, 08:33 AM   #10
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Before I let the thought get away, I will plant a seed right away. Before I exited the draft screen, I sorted the remaining QB by Solecismic test score, expecting just to note the top handful of guys so I could go look them up -- as I fully expect this team to be a "try not to lose the game" style, at least initially. Anyway, the top of the heap was this guy...who turns out to have four blue combines to go along with that 38 test score.



So, left to my own devices... I'd probably say that this guy was a lock to creep at least a bit in camp, and I would be thinking he's the very likely opening day starter. I suspect most of those zero-looking bars are phony, but I haven't given thought to what he might eventually look like, based on those combines. He does have pretty reasonable sense rush skills (a true rating) so it's at least possible to be thinking about an offensive line with mostly run-blocking skills.

Just a quick thought...

I look forward to reading and following.

And, I know that it is only cosmetic, but I still like to wonder about the backstory of the mildly talented Polish genius from El Paso who ended up playing for N.C. State. Only in America.
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Old 04-26-2010, 08:55 AM   #11
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And, I know that it is only cosmetic, but I still like to wonder about the backstory of the mildly talented Polish genius from El Paso who ended up playing for N.C. State. Only in America.

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Old 04-26-2010, 01:47 PM   #12
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Probably the obvious cases here, but SLB Todd Linquist looks like an interesting pass rush technique prospect and RCB Keith Buford has interesting man-to-man skills. LCB T.J. Edwards has some interesting skills (interceptions, special teams). Maybe RB Jessie Ogu as a 3rd down RB? WR Jose Rivero has an interesting 40-time and agility combo.
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Old 04-26-2010, 02:44 PM   #13
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With a quick look at the DB talent available (and knowing a bit about what to expect in any IMT career) I was thinking that maybe the way to go might be to make this a zone-first team, and to look at guys who have good position skill scores from the combine. Sorting rookie DBs by current interception skills yields a handful of guys who look to have decent ability there (always nice) and several safeties with position scores of 40+, supporting at least some combination of zone and interceptions.
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Old 04-26-2010, 02:46 PM   #14
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Dealing with the limited talent pool that we are... do not forget the ability to switch positions. Many of my long-term IMT starters at CB were former safeties, DE were DT (or LB), and so forth. Some positions are really tough to fill in the customary fashion after the draft, don't forget to think outside the box.
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Old 04-26-2010, 06:01 PM   #15
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Fair enough... I may have some time tonight or tomorrow morning, and will probably fill in the initial roster using mostly common sense. Anyone mentioned here will certainly get a roster spot. if I notice anything else interesting along the way, I will try to document my thinking as best I can.

I'm thinking that for year one - where the team will stink anyway - I won't worry too much about creating a serious gameplan. We'll just run a big vanilla and see what players might stand out as "build-around" types afterward.
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Old 04-27-2010, 05:25 AM   #16
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A glance prior to training camp, after a few position switches.

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Front Office Football 2007 Buffalo Bills Roster, Scout Overview Player # Pos Start Exp Current Estimate Future Estimate Cntrct Capps, Thurman 10 QB 1 11 30 1 yr. Stephenson, C.J. 7 QB 1 8 40 1 yr. Bethea, Mark 9 QB 1 7 41 1 yr. Wisniewski, Tracy 17 QB 1 4 14 1 yr. Latham, Artie 27 RB 1 31 45 1 yr. Harmon, Herman 24 RB 1 28 52 1 yr. Ogu, Jessie 21 RB 1 25 37 1 yr. Huffman, Andy 47 RB 1 22 45 1 yr. Small, Russell 40 FB 1 29 37 1 yr. Brigham, Lorenzo 46 FB 1 22 53 1 yr. Manning, Vernon 45 FB 1 7 20 1 yr. Mitting, Isaac 81 TE 1 21 44 1 yr. Meek, Les 48 TE 1 17 30 1 yr. Weintraub, Tito 84 TE 1 15 45 1 yr. McQuilken, Winfred 80 FL 1 22 34 1 yr. Spencer, O.J. 83 SE 1 19 53 1 yr. Giles, Carlos 89 SE 1 16 51 1 yr. Bates, Justin 88 SE 1 15 41 1 yr. Pulido, Mel 86 SE 1 14 25 1 yr. Lee, Edward 82 SE 1 11 30 1 yr. Greene, Ed 53 C 1 21 50 1 yr. Whalen, Phillip 56 C 1 8 22 1 yr. Musum, Ryan 67 LG 1 20 28 1 yr. Rivers, Melvin 73 LG 1 13 38 1 yr. McLain, Rod 60 LG 1 12 35 1 yr. Cosgrove, Luther 77 RG 1 18 28 1 yr. Beyer, Alex 76 LT 1 17 20 1 yr. Serban, Dennis 70 LT 1 16 41 1 yr. Holdhusen, Don 68 RT 1 19 54 1 yr. Mickus, Jose 62 RT 1 15 37 1 yr. Kitchen, Chester 63 RT 1 11 36 1 yr. Cothran, Lamont 18 P 1 36 60 1 yr. Federspiel, Jimmie 4 K 1 31 66 1 yr. Reeves, Ralph 2 K 1 22 59 1 yr. White, Lee 97 LDE 1 20 43 1 yr. Baxter, J.T. 90 LDE 1 18 39 1 yr. Pallansch, Monty 75 LDE 1 18 36 1 yr. Sanaee, Bubba 98 RDE 1 21 36 1 yr. Godfrey, Justin 79 RDE 1 15 38 1 yr. Ballard, Kendall 96 LDT 1 14 44 1 yr. Erickson, Michael 94 NT 1 16 50 1 yr. Rivers, Marvin 58 SILB 1 17 47 1 yr. Whitfield, Willie 52 SILB 1 13 34 1 yr. Hanaki, Bert 91 WILB 1 22 44 1 yr. Beyer, J.J. 93 SLB 1 17 38 1 yr. Israelson, Ray 54 SLB 1 15 29 1 yr. Linquist, Todd 55 WLB 1 17 46 1 yr. Santulli, Ernest 92 WLB 1 10 29 1 yr. Ford, Lincoln 28 LCB 1 16 62 1 yr. Edwards, T.J. 25 LCB 1 12 44 1 yr. Kawaguchi, Gary 33 LCB 1 10 20 1 yr. Buford, Keith 23 RCB 1 22 52 1 yr. Blanchard, Allen 20 RCB 1 14 30 1 yr. Boyd, Kevin 43 SS 1 21 39 1 yr. Tisdall, Rusty 49 SS 1 10 50 1 yr. Robinson, Otis 42 SS 1 9 25 1 yr. Rutter, Quentin 26 FS 1 14 50 1 yr. $$ - player is suspended, ## - player is inactive, ** = player is injured, %% - player is on IR. Players Under Contract: 57 Inactive: 0 On Active Roster: 57 Salary Cap: $134,800,000 Cap Room: $67,230,000 Maximum for New Player: $67,550,000 Cap Room Lost (to old contracts): $49,410,000 Cap Room Lost Next Year (to old contracts): $0 Cap Room Required Next Year: $0
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Old 04-27-2010, 07:38 AM   #17
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Won't be advancing until at least this evening... left the game files (pre-camp) on a thumb drive at home.

One note -- on this team, even a semi-credible SILB would have a shot at Defensive Rookie of the Year with the potential for maybe 120 tackles... but I'm not sure we're going to have anyone worth anything at all at ILB. Rivers looked like the best run stopper in the URFA class, but that's not saying much -- maybe a Run D rating of about 22 or so, I think. Not a big tackler in the secondary either, so I'm guessing we won't see any one guy with eye-popping numbers.

Also, SLB J.J. Beyer look pretty good, but he is impeding the D7 chemistry, so unless he has a great camp, he's likely getting cut.
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Old 04-28-2010, 10:10 AM   #18
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I really like following these things. I know when I'm looking at scrubs I sort by all the "true" physical ratings to find guys that might have something going on. Go through all the guys with high sense rush, big play receiving, blocking strength, pass rush strength, and punishing hitter. For upfront defenders, a pass rush strength and punishing hitter pairing is usually worth a look. For the DBs, a punishing hitter and another high bump or interception bar can be pretty interesting as well. And I definitely try to dig up an RB with a high breakaway and speed to the outside combo. Those guys have a tendency to creep as well.
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Old 04-28-2010, 01:28 PM   #19
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Okay, finally had time to run a vanilla training camp with that batch of 57 players. Here's the back end:

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Front Office Football 2007 Buffalo Bills Roster, Scout Overview Player # Pos Start Exp Current Estimate Future Estimate Cntrct Capps, Thurman 10 QB 1 14 30 1 yr. Stephenson, C.J. 7 QB 1 11 41 1 yr. Bethea, Mark 9 QB 1 9 37 1 yr. Wisniewski, Tracy 17 QB 1 6 19 1 yr. Latham, Artie 27 RB 1 32 42 1 yr. Harmon, Herman 24 RB 1 29 47 1 yr. Ogu, Jessie 21 RB 1 26 35 1 yr. Huffman, Andy 47 RB 1 21 39 1 yr. Small, Russell 40 FB 1 31 36 1 yr. Brigham, Lorenzo 46 FB 1 25 48 1 yr. Manning, Vernon 45 FB 1 9 20 1 yr. Mitting, Isaac 81 TE 1 23 40 1 yr. Meek, Les 48 TE 1 18 28 1 yr. Weintraub, Tito 84 TE 1 17 39 1 yr. McQuilken, Winfred 80 FL 1 24 32 1 yr. Spencer, O.J. 83 SE 1 21 47 1 yr. Giles, Carlos 89 SE 1 18 44 1 yr. Bates, Justin 88 SE 1 17 35 1 yr. Pulido, Mel 86 SE 1 16 26 1 yr. Lee, Edward 82 SE 1 13 28 1 yr. Greene, Ed 53 C 1 25 45 1 yr. Whalen, Phillip 56 C 1 10 23 1 yr. Musum, Ryan 67 LG 1 24 30 1 yr. McLain, Rod 60 LG 1 16 35 1 yr. Rivers, Melvin 73 LG 1 15 34 1 yr. Cosgrove, Luther 77 RG 1 19 29 1 yr. Beyer, Alex 76 LT 1 19 22 1 yr. Serban, Dennis 70 LT 1 18 40 1 yr. Holdhusen, Don 68 RT 1 21 47 1 yr. Mickus, Jose 62 RT 1 17 32 1 yr. Kitchen, Chester 63 RT 1 15 35 1 yr. Cothran, Lamont 18 P 1 35 52 1 yr. Federspiel, Jimmie 4 K 1 32 61 1 yr. Reeves, Ralph 2 K 1 23 61 1 yr. White, Lee 97 LDE 1 22 42 1 yr. Pallansch, Monty 75 LDE 1 21 35 1 yr. Baxter, J.T. 90 LDE 1 19 36 1 yr. Sanaee, Bubba 98 RDE 1 23 35 1 yr. Godfrey, Justin 79 RDE 1 18 36 1 yr. Ballard, Kendall 96 LDT 1 18 42 1 yr. Erickson, Michael 94 NT 1 16 42 1 yr. Rivers, Marvin 58 SILB 1 21 43 1 yr. Whitfield, Willie 52 SILB 1 16 31 1 yr. Hanaki, Bert 91 WILB 1 25 40 1 yr. Beyer, J.J. 93 SLB 1 19 35 1 yr. Israelson, Ray 54 SLB 1 18 35 1 yr. Linquist, Todd 55 WLB 1 20 38 1 yr. Santulli, Ernest 92 WLB 1 13 30 1 yr. Ford, Lincoln 28 LCB 1 19 52 1 yr. Edwards, T.J. 25 LCB 1 14 38 1 yr. Kawaguchi, Gary 33 LCB 1 12 21 1 yr. Buford, Keith 23 RCB 1 25 44 1 yr. Blanchard, Allen 20 RCB 1 16 26 1 yr. Boyd, Kevin 43 SS 1 23 35 1 yr. Robinson, Otis 42 SS 1 12 26 1 yr. Tisdall, Rusty 49 SS 1 11 39 1 yr. Rutter, Quentin 26 FS 1 18 47 1 yr. $$ - player is suspended, ## - player is inactive, ** = player is injured, %% - player is on IR. Players Under Contract: 57 Inactive: 0 On Active Roster: 57 Salary Cap: $134,800,000 Cap Room: $67,230,000 Maximum for New Player: $67,550,000 Cap Room Lost (to old contracts): $49,410,000 Cap Room Lost Next Year (to old contracts): $0 Cap Room Required Next Year: $0

A +5 for Wisniewski is a really good sign. I don't have access to any of the change-tracking utilities at the moment, so I will piece together what I need - but the raw materials are above, at least.
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Old 04-28-2010, 01:54 PM   #20
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I see a nice jump for SLB Israelson right off the bat (15/29 to 18/35).
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Old 04-28-2010, 01:58 PM   #21
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A few quick notes just looking at the bars of these guys before starting with anything...

Wisniewski is clearly the guy to play at QB, but his bars tell us precious little about what style of offense he can run. He has 9 formations, with no real slant among them. Next year, expanding that may be a priority.

At RB, Latham looks passable, rest are usable but nobody is special

FB Small will likely be a long term asset, but not a serious run blocker

TE Mitting looks like the starter there, but a void in RR means he's just beef, no gravy

WR is a mixed bag, no surprise... no strong bias between short-yardage (GD) guys and downfield (BPR) guys, really... some of each to a degree

G McClain had the best dash combine of any OL, and looks like he may be a long term asset for us... some run blocking potential there, and his 35 held

LT Alex Beyer has the look of a high BStr guy whose other ratings may creep over time... even after a -2 camp

I fouled up defensive front more than I had realized, and have to cut two guys just to get things close to realigned.

Looks like SLB Israalson posted a +6 camp and has some real potential -- he was the punishing hitter + pass rush strength profile guy who seems to have panned out well... not much potential as a run stopper, though

DB group is a mishmash of bars, no real theme there either... several guys with solid looking Int bar, at least
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Old 04-28-2010, 02:22 PM   #22
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Okay, I loaded up a gameplan titled "Balanced" (I'm assuming this was from the library published some while ago) and a vanilla 3-4 defense, and I ran season one. I have played enough IMT careers to know what to expect here... if this is news to you, you may want to sit down before continuing...

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Front Office Football 2007 2010 Summary for Buffalo Bills Year 2010 Record 1-15 Winning Pct. .062 All-Time 7-25 Winning Pct. .218 Playoffs 0-0 Playoff Visits 0 Bowl Wins 0 Head Coach Sam Frederick Record 1-15 Winning Pct. .062 Off. Coord. J. Gooding Def. Coord. A. Newton Buffalo Bills Team Rank Rushes per Game 21.3 32 Rushing Yards 89.1 31 Yards Per Carry 4.19 17 Pass Attempts 33.3 13 Completions 17.5 29 Completion Pct. 52.5 32 Passing Yards 167.6 32 Yards Per Attempt 5.03 32 Yards Per Catch 9.58 29 (T) Total Yardage Gained 233.9 32 3rd Down Conversions 36.7 21 Points Per Game 7.5 32 Pass Rush Pct. 13.8 32 Pass Defense Pct. 19.9 32 Turnovers 35 28 Turnover Margin -21 32 Opponents Team Rank Rushes per Game 35.5 32 Rushing Yards 158.6 32 Yards Per Carry 4.47 27 Pass Attempts 25.3 1 Completions 17.9 1 Completion Pct. 70.9 32 Passing Yards 218.8 15 Yards Per Attempt 8.64 32 Yards Per Catch 12.20 32 Total Yardage Gained 372.3 32 3rd Down Conversions 46.1 31 Points Per Game 31.1 32 Pass Rush Pct. 23.0 30 Pass Defense Pct. 74.3 32 Turnovers 14 32 Week Team Versus Oppnt 1 0 at NYJ 37 2 10 GBY 35 3 7 at JAX 34 4 6 CLE 23 5 0 at MIA 24 6 10 at PIT 31 7 11 at BAL 37 8 3 NYJ 30 9 3 CIN 37 10 14 at NED 19 12 24 at DET 23 13 6 KCY 36 14 7 MIN 40 15 10 NED 34 16 0 at CHI 27 17 9 MIA 30 Passing Pos Att Comp Yards Y/Att TD Int Rate 17 T. Wisniewski QB 415 225 2175 5.24 4 21 51.2 10 T. Capps QB 118 55 506 4.29 3 2 60.2 **Team --- 533 280 2681 5.03 7 23 53.2 $$Opp --- 405 287 3500 8.64 23 4 112.0 Rushing Pos Att Yards Y/Att TD Fum 27 A. Latham RB 205 773 3.77 2 4 24 H. Harmon RB 102 531 5.21 0 4 **Team --- 340 1426 4.19 2 31 $$Opp --- 568 2538 4.47 27 19 Receiving Pos Targ Catch Yards Y/Ctc Y/Tar Drop TD 83 O. Spencer WR 128 63 646 10.25 5.05 15 2 89 C. Giles WR 116 59 605 10.25 5.22 12 2 80 W. McQuilken WR 83 37 430 11.62 5.18 7 1 86 M. Pulido WR 62 35 411 11.74 6.63 3 1 27 A. Latham RB 43 24 190 7.92 4.42 1 0 84 T. Weintraub TE 24 16 126 7.88 5.25 2 1 Defense Pos Tack Asst Sack Hurr Ints Defn PDPct 58 M. Rivers ILB 94 34 0.0 1 1 1 72.9 54 R. Israelson OLB 79 22 3.0 1 0 6 70.5 43 K. Boyd S 78 39 1.0 0 0 2 76.0 91 B. Hanaki ILB 76 18 0.0 0 0 0 65.3 55 T. Linquist OLB 43 18 4.0 8 0 2 79.1 52 W. Whitfield ILB 42 9 0.0 0 0 1 73.0 26 Q. Rutter S 38 15 0.0 1 0 1 71.6 49 R. Tisdall S 35 15 0.0 0 0 1 73.7 94 M. Erickson DT 33 6 1.0 1 0 0 81.3 25 T. Edwards CB 32 11 0.0 1 1 3 77.2 98 B. Sanaee DE 31 12 1.0 2 0 2 82.7 96 K. Ballard DT 31 15 2.5 4 0 0 79.5 33 G. Kawaguchi CB 31 12 0.0 0 0 1 72.8 97 L. White DE 30 10 0.5 4 0 0 81.5 23 K. Buford CB 28 8 0.0 0 1 2 75.3 92 E. Santulli OLB 27 17 0.5 5 0 0 77.9 28 L. Ford CB 27 11 0.0 0 0 2 72.1 90 J. Baxter DE 21 4 0.5 5 0 0 81.6 20 A. Blanchard CB 18 5 0.0 0 1 3 79.4
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Old 04-28-2010, 02:23 PM   #23
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Since the summary doesn't include this stuff...

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Front Office Football 2007 Blocking Statistics Player Pos Team GP GS KRB KRO BPct Pnck SkA PPly SPct Musum, Ryan G BUF 16 16 21 58 36.2 0 8 504 1.6 Beyer, Alex T BUF 16 16 18 42 42.9 0 13 479 2.7 Greene, Ed C BUF 16 16 17 52 32.7 0 4 484 0.8 Holdhusen, Don T BUF 16 16 10 37 27.0 0 14 486 2.9 McLain, Rod G BUF 16 16 8 37 21.6 0 5 421 1.2 Rivers, Melvin G BUF 16 0 8 21 38.1 0 5 249 2.0 Kitchen, Chester T BUF 16 0 6 15 40.0 0 3 209 1.4 Whalen, Phillip C BUF 16 0 5 13 38.5 0 2 103 1.9 Small, Russell FB BUF 16 11 3 15 20.0 0 0 266 0.0 Brigham, Lorenzo FB BUF 16 0 3 10 30.0 0 0 119 0.0 Mitting, Isaac TE BUF 9 9 3 4 75.0 0 0 210 0.0 Meek, Les TE BUF 16 0 0 3 0.0 0 0 135 0.0 Weintraub, Tito TE BUF 16 7 0 6 0.0 0 0 242 0.0 Player Pos Team RPly OPct Musum, Ryan G BUF 297 19.5 Beyer, Alex T BUF 286 14.7 Greene, Ed C BUF 276 18.8 Holdhusen, Don T BUF 291 12.7 McLain, Rod G BUF 226 16.4 Rivers, Melvin G BUF 157 13.4 Kitchen, Chester T BUF 103 14.6 Whalen, Phillip C BUF 64 20.3 Small, Russell FB BUF 184 8.2 Brigham, Lorenzo FB BUF 65 15.4 Mitting, Isaac TE BUF 113 3.5 Meek, Les TE BUF 65 4.6 Weintraub, Tito TE BUF 178 3.4 KRB - Key Run Blocks, KRO - Key Run Block Opportunities, BPct - Key Run Block Percentage, Pnck = Pancake Blocks, SkA - Sacks Allowed, PPly - Passing Plays on Field, SPct - Sack Allowed Percentage, RPly - Rushing Plays on Field, OPct - Block Opportunity Percentage.
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Old 04-28-2010, 02:43 PM   #24
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While I have the draft app up, here are some notes to myself and anyone reading:

Dash: RB Stan Dillon 4.48, WR Gus Owens 4.47 has some bars, QB Carlos Schmigdall 4.53, C Everett Coffey 5.07, T Ethan Covington 5.02 big bar, LT Butch Penn 5.02, DE Joey Owens bar, ILB Damon Behrendt, MLB Jason Greenwood, OLB Carl Mustian 4.58, CB Edward Brodie 4.46

Sole Test: QB Harry Gosselin 40, S Antonio Lynch 39 3 blue combines, RT Alex Nixon

Strength: G Horace Andrews 37 (three reds!), RG Brad Lowery

Agility: CB Xavier Marx 6.92!,

BJump: DE Xavier Sebek, RB Oliver Bromley, WR Willie Crawford

PSpec: CB Leon Ethridge 52, TE Peter Fredrickson
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Old 04-28-2010, 02:49 PM   #25
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Here's the latest incremental file, to bring you up to date -- into late free agency in 2011. (You need both this file and the one from the first post in this thread)

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At this point, there's a range of things to be done.

-Need to decide who among our young returning players is worth a new contract.

-Need to decide what to do with team chemistry, especially at the D7 where I inadvertently mucked things up significantly (making our SILB position a fairly tough decision).

-Need to scour for new players to add and bring along to camp

-Need to think about a gameplan to use that may fit this team better than the vanillas from year one... I'm wide open on both sides of the ball.
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Old 04-29-2010, 05:46 PM   #27
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Okay, then. Basically, here's my thinking going forward:

-If this team is ever going to be winning, it will be because we have some combination of true quality breakout players, sufficient solid enough role players around them, and then a whole lot of cohesion and chemistry. Basically, if we can land 2-4 impact players a year (impact meaning "guys who might actually get playing time on a real roster") and then otherwise build for chemistry... that's on the path toward a winning season in perhaps 8-10 years from now.

So, in order to have cohesion and chemistry high through that period, I need to lock up a number of players -- pretty much regardless of their skill level -- pretty soon.

That is, I figure, the real path to a winning team here. I'm sifting through the initial roster now, handing out new contracts and probably finding 20 guys who will still be on this roster in 2020.
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Old 04-29-2010, 06:48 PM   #28
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What do you do with your draft picks, QS?
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What do you do with your draft picks, QS?

Arizona gets all of them. It's usually semi-interesting to see what a franchise does by having a top pick (often 1.1) and a double draft just handed to them every season. Usually they end up in big cap trouble before they really get good. I'll try to keep track in the thread.

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RB Jeremy Swift (bench press 25), sounds like that power inside (>64) is for real, the third down running (>62) could be lower than advertised, but that combo can be interesting.

RB Gus Gellings (10/15, punt returner, semi-decent receiving skills) might be worth a shot at WR, but the punt returning (>59) alone makes him interesting.

DT Corey Chapman has okay speed (5.00 is decent for a DT) and power (31 bench reps), which seems to be in-line with the advertised blue. He'll be a big liability on running plays (no run defense, so-so play diagnosis). Not sure he can be moved to DE, though.

A 52 position drill for a CB? That's pretty huge. Some of the return skills are bogus (at least the kick returning), but the solecismic score, 40-time and position drill are good enough. And Ethridge is even an affinity match. Must get player.

You probably didn't miss S Kim Alexander and his 48 position drill score.

TE Louie Cooper also interests me as a player with long snapping skills and additionally some run blocking, getting downfield and big-play bars, with some combine scores that support his case a bit (4.73 dash, 7.51 agility, 9'7" broad jump).

And then there's combine skipping SLB Shannon Wynn, with an 80+ special teams bar, 70ish punishing hitter.
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Thanks... everyone on that list will get an invite to camp, for certain.
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Front Office Football 2007 Buffalo Bills Roster, Scout Overview Player # Pos Start Exp Current Estimate Future Estimate Cntrct Stephenson, C.J. 7 QB 2 11 41 1 yr. Duran, Tommie 6 QB 1 11 24 1 yr. Wisniewski, Tracy 17 QB 2 8 21 1 yr. Latham, Artie 27 RB 2 34 39 1 yr. Harmon, Herman 24 RB 2 30 45 1 yr. Swift, Jeremy 34 RB 1 27 52 1 yr. Dillon, Stan 36 RB 1 25 34 1 yr. Ogu, Jessie 21 RB 2 25 32 1 yr. Small, Russell 40 FB 2 33 35 1 yr. Brigham, Lorenzo 46 FB 2 25 45 1 yr. Woodson, Charles 29 FB 1 22 54 1 yr. Manning, Vernon 45 FB 2 10 20 1 yr. Rackley, D.J. 85 TE 1 25 52 1 yr. Mitting, Isaac 81 TE 2 24 37 1 yr. Lowery, Riddick 44 TE 1 22 55 1 yr. Fredrickson, Peter 41 TE 1 20 46 1 yr. Baillargeon, Riddick 87 TE 1 17 50 1 yr. Cooper, Louie 11 TE 1 17 32 1 yr. McQuilken, Winfred 80 FL 2 28 30 1 yr. Spencer, O.J. 83 FL 2 23 43 1 yr. Owens, Gus 13 FL 1 19 43 2 yrs Gellings, Gus 37 FL 1 14 31 1 yr. Giles, Carlos 89 SE 2 21 39 1 yr. Pulido, Mel 86 SE 2 18 26 1 yr. Lee, Edward 82 SE 2 12 26 1 yr. Greene, Ed 53 C 2 27 43 1 yr. McKenzie, Shannon 57 C 1 13 53 2 yrs Musum, Ryan 67 LG 2 28 31 1 yr. McLain, Rod 60 LG 2 23 35 1 yr. Lowery, Brad 72 RG 1 20 46 2 yrs Beyer, Alex 76 LT 2 22 24 1 yr. Nygaard, Gino 64 LT 1 20 30 2 yrs Covington, Ethan 71 RT 1 4 40 1 yr. Springer, Curtis 14 P 1 29 64 2 yrs Federspiel, Jimmie 4 K 2 38 56 1 yr. Chapman, Corey 99 LDE 1 21 34 2 yrs Barlow, Walt 78 LDE 1 20 40 2 yrs Sanaee, Bubba 98 RDE 2 25 34 1 yr. Godfrey, Justin 79 RDE 2 19 34 1 yr. Ballard, Kendall 96 LDT 2 22 41 1 yr. Grebene, Clarence 74 NT 1 21 27 1 yr. Brownlee, Ben 93 SILB 1 22 35 2 yrs Whitfield, Willie 52 SILB 2 19 29 1 yr. Hanaki, Bert 91 WILB 2 27 37 1 yr. Borders, Timothy 50 WILB 1 12 53 1 yr. Israelson, Ray 54 SLB 2 25 38 1 yr. Wynn, Shannon 51 SLB 1 19 41 2 yrs Salerno, Quentin 95 SLB 1 15 39 1 yr. Linquist, Todd 55 WLB 2 21 35 1 yr. Ford, Lincoln 28 LCB 2 24 46 1 yr. Marx, Xavier 31 LCB 1 21 43 2 yrs Edwards, T.J. 25 LCB 2 15 34 1 yr. Kawaguchi, Gary 33 LCB 2 15 22 1 yr. Buford, Keith 23 RCB 2 30 40 1 yr. Ethridge, Leon 22 RCB 1 19 58 1 yr. Blanchard, Allen 20 RCB 2 16 24 1 yr. Dillon, Walt 38 RCB 1 7 23 1 yr. Boyd, Kevin 43 SS 2 28 32 1 yr. Alexander, Kim 39 SS 1 19 52 1 yr. Robinson, Otis 42 SS 2 14 27 1 yr. Wooden, Kenyon 32 SS 1 12 38 1 yr. Rutter, Quentin 26 FS 2 26 45 1 yr. Lynch, Antonio 30 FS 1 12 36 2 yrs Finley, Julio 47 FS 1 11 30 1 yr.

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Front Office Football 2007 Buffalo Bills Roster, Scout Overview Player # Pos Start Exp Current Estimate Future Estimate Cntrct Stephenson, C.J. 7 QB 2 13 41 1 yr. Duran, Tommie 6 QB 1 13 26 1 yr. Wisniewski, Tracy 17 QB 2 10 21 1 yr. Latham, Artie 27 RB 2 35 35 1 yr. Harmon, Herman 24 RB 2 32 44 1 yr. Swift, Jeremy 34 RB 1 28 45 1 yr. Ogu, Jessie 21 RB 2 27 32 1 yr. Dillon, Stan 36 RB 1 27 34 1 yr. Small, Russell 40 FB 2 36 36 1 yr. Brigham, Lorenzo 46 FB 2 29 45 1 yr. Woodson, Charles 29 FB 1 24 47 1 yr. Manning, Vernon 45 FB 2 11 21 1 yr. Rackley, D.J. 85 TE 1 29 47 1 yr. Mitting, Isaac 81 TE 2 26 36 1 yr. Fredrickson, Peter 41 TE 1 25 50 1 yr. Lowery, Riddick 44 TE 1 24 47 1 yr. Baillargeon, Riddick 87 TE 1 19 41 1 yr. Cooper, Louie 11 TE 1 19 32 1 yr. McQuilken, Winfred 80 FL 2 29 29 1 yr. Spencer, O.J. 83 FL 2 26 44 1 yr. Owens, Gus 13 FL 1 21 40 2 yrs Gellings, Gus 37 FL 1 16 29 1 yr. Giles, Carlos 89 SE 2 23 39 1 yr. Pulido, Mel 86 SE 2 21 28 1 yr. Lee, Edward 82 SE 2 15 27 1 yr. Greene, Ed 53 C 2 30 43 1 yr. McKenzie, Shannon 57 C 1 17 53 2 yrs Musum, Ryan 67 LG 2 30 31 1 yr. McLain, Rod 60 LG 2 27 35 1 yr. Lowery, Brad 72 RG 1 22 41 2 yrs Beyer, Alex 76 LT 2 22 24 1 yr. Nygaard, Gino 64 LT 1 21 30 2 yrs Covington, Ethan 71 RT 1 6 40 1 yr. Springer, Curtis 14 P 1 30 55 2 yrs Federspiel, Jimmie 4 K 2 39 57 1 yr. Barlow, Walt 78 LDE 1 22 37 2 yrs Chapman, Corey 99 LDE 1 22 31 2 yrs Sanaee, Bubba 98 RDE 2 27 34 1 yr. Godfrey, Justin 79 RDE 2 23 34 1 yr. Ballard, Kendall 96 LDT 2 26 41 1 yr. Grebene, Clarence 74 NT 1 22 29 1 yr. Brownlee, Ben 93 SILB 1 25 36 2 yrs Whitfield, Willie 52 SILB 2 22 30 1 yr. Hanaki, Bert 91 WILB 2 31 38 1 yr. Borders, Timothy 50 WILB 1 14 48 1 yr. Israelson, Ray 54 SLB 2 28 38 1 yr. Wynn, Shannon 51 SLB 1 21 37 2 yrs Salerno, Quentin 95 SLB 1 17 34 1 yr. Linquist, Todd 55 WLB 2 24 35 1 yr. Ford, Lincoln 28 LCB 2 27 46 1 yr. Marx, Xavier 31 LCB 1 24 40 2 yrs Edwards, T.J. 25 LCB 2 17 34 1 yr. Kawaguchi, Gary 33 LCB 2 16 22 1 yr. Buford, Keith 23 RCB 2 31 31 1 yr. Ethridge, Leon 22 RCB 1 21 47 1 yr. Blanchard, Allen 20 RCB 2 18 24 1 yr. Dillon, Walt 38 RCB 1 8 22 1 yr. Boyd, Kevin 43 SS 2 30 30 1 yr. Alexander, Kim 39 SS 1 21 46 1 yr. Robinson, Otis 42 SS 2 17 28 1 yr. Wooden, Kenyon 32 SS 1 15 35 1 yr. Rutter, Quentin 26 FS 2 31 46 1 yr. Lynch, Antonio 30 FS 1 15 38 2 yrs Finley, Julio 47 FS 1 13 26 1 yr. $$ - player is suspended, ## - player is inactive, ** = player is injured, %% - player is on IR. Players Under Contract: 64 Inactive: 0 On Active Roster: 64 Salary Cap: $141,600,000 Cap Room: $116,560,000 Front Office Football 2007 Maximum for New Player: $116,900,000 Cap Room Lost (to old contracts): $0 Cap Room Lost Next Year (to old contracts): $0 Cap Room Required Next Year: $4,950,000
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Buffalo Bills Player Report

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NamePosTeamIMTBUF2011c CurrentIMTBUF2011c FutureIMTBUF2011d CurrentIMTBUF2011d FutureOverall Current ChangeOverall Future Change
Duran, TommieQBBuffalo112413 (2)26 (2)22
Stephenson, C.J.QBBuffalo114113 (2)41 (0)20
Wisniewski, TracyQBBuffalo82110 (2)21 (0)20
Dillon, StanRBBuffalo253427 (2)34 (0)20
Harmon, HermanRBBuffalo304532 (2)44 (-1)2-1
Latham, ArtieRBBuffalo343935 (1)35 (-4)1-4
Ogu, JessieRBBuffalo253227 (2)32 (0)20
Swift, JeremyRBBuffalo275228 (1)45 (-7)1-7
Brigham, LorenzoFBBuffalo254529 (4)45 (0)40
Manning, VernonFBBuffalo102011 (1)21 (1)11
Small, RussellFBBuffalo333536 (3)36 (1)31
Woodson, CharlesFBBuffalo225424 (2)47 (-7)2-7
Baillargeon, RiddickTEBuffalo175019 (2)41 (-9)2-9
Cooper, LouieTEBuffalo173219 (2)32 (0)20
Fredrickson, PeterTEBuffalo204625 (5)50 (4)54
Lowery, RiddickTEBuffalo225524 (2)47 (-8)2-8
Mitting, IsaacTEBuffalo243726 (2)36 (-1)2-1
Rackley, D.J.TEBuffalo255229 (4)47 (-5)4-5
Gellings, GusFLBuffalo143116 (2)29 (-2)2-2
McQuilken, WinfredFLBuffalo283029 (1)29 (-1)1-1
Owens, GusFLBuffalo194321 (2)40 (-3)2-3
Spencer, O.J.FLBuffalo234326 (3)44 (1)31
Giles, CarlosSEBuffalo213923 (2)39 (0)20
Lee, EdwardSEBuffalo122615 (3)27 (1)31
Pulido, MelSEBuffalo182621 (3)28 (2)32
Greene, EdCBuffalo274330 (3)43 (0)30
McKenzie, ShannonCBuffalo135317 (4)53 (0)40
McLain, RodLGBuffalo233527 (4)35 (0)40
Musum, RyanLGBuffalo283130 (2)31 (0)20
Lowery, BradRGBuffalo204622 (2)41 (-5)2-5
Beyer, AlexLTBuffalo222422 (0)24 (0)00
Nygaard, GinoLTBuffalo203021 (1)30 (0)10
Covington, EthanRTBuffalo4406 (2)40 (0)20
Federspiel, JimmieKBuffalo385639 (1)57 (1)11
Springer, CurtisPBuffalo296430 (1)55 (-9)1-9
Barlow, WaltLDEBuffalo204022 (2)37 (-3)2-3
Chapman, CoreyLDEBuffalo213422 (1)31 (-3)1-3
Ballard, KendallLDTBuffalo224126 (4)41 (0)40
Grebene, ClarenceNTBuffalo212722 (1)29 (2)12
Godfrey, JustinRDEBuffalo193423 (4)34 (0)40
Sanaee, BubbaRDEBuffalo253427 (2)34 (0)20
Israelson, RaySLBBuffalo253828 (3)38 (0)30
Salerno, QuentinSLBBuffalo153917 (2)34 (-5)2-5
Wynn, ShannonSLBBuffalo194121 (2)37 (-4)2-4
Brownlee, BenSILBBuffalo223525 (3)36 (1)31
Whitfield, WillieSILBBuffalo192922 (3)30 (1)31
Borders, TimothyWILBBuffalo125314 (2)48 (-5)2-5
Hanaki, BertWILBBuffalo273731 (4)38 (1)41
Linquist, ToddWLBBuffalo213524 (3)35 (0)30
Edwards, T.J.LCBBuffalo153417 (2)34 (0)20
Ford, LincolnLCBBuffalo244627 (3)46 (0)30
Kawaguchi, GaryLCBBuffalo152216 (1)22 (0)10
Marx, XavierLCBBuffalo214324 (3)40 (-3)3-3
Blanchard, AllenRCBBuffalo162418 (2)24 (0)20
Buford, KeithRCBBuffalo304031 (1)31 (-9)1-9
Dillon, WaltRCBBuffalo7238 (1)22 (-1)1-1
Ethridge, LeonRCBBuffalo195821 (2)47 (-11)2-11
Alexander, KimSSBuffalo195221 (2)46 (-6)2-6
Boyd, KevinSSBuffalo283230 (2)30 (-2)2-2
Robinson, OtisSSBuffalo142717 (3)28 (1)31
Wooden, KenyonSSBuffalo123815 (3)35 (-3)3-3
Finley, JulioFSBuffalo113013 (2)26 (-4)2-4
Lynch, AntonioFSBuffalo123615 (3)38 (2)32
Rutter, QuentinFSBuffalo264531 (5)46 (1)51
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So, I reckon everyone who bumped in camp gets a spot going forward... right? QB might be interesting now... I like the look of Duran a bit.
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Old 05-01-2010, 02:40 AM   #36
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I'm curious what happens to Wisniewski. Unfortunately, he's got to play for us to see how he pans out in the end and it might be a whole lotta playing time for nothing...tough call.
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Scratching my head here, all but one of my suggestions took huge hits. Especially CB Ethredge's hit is very disappointing and unexpected; -11, ouch...
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Old 05-01-2010, 09:52 AM   #38
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MIJB, my general experience is that while there will be guys with good-looking bars who slide through the whole draft, and there will be guys with some great combines who slide through...it's very rare to find guys with both who do. My usual expectation here is to find *either* low bar creepers (guys like Wisnieswki) or good-bar guys who slide but remain worthwhile.

A guy like Ethridge, even after a -11 camp,might still be worth keeping around, at least for now. Here's a look at him post-camp:



With those reds in zone, int, and ST... I see a guy who could be very solid as a nickel back for the long haul, even.
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Old 05-01-2010, 10:05 AM   #39
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At the start of the 2011 season, I decide to release RB Latham, for several reasons. My plan now is to go with Harmon as the main duty guy (63 power, 89 elus, decent receiving skills) and Swift (99 power, 68 3rd down) as the backup and short yardage guy. With two power-first backs, and better inside run blockers than our tackles, I will plan to push more runs between the tackles than I usually would.

In time, maybe this team becomes one Al Davis would like.
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After a 1-5 start, Wisniewski has a 47 rating, and I think it's time to calm things down on offense, and just try to play it safer. I rein in the passing game, and we will try to move the chains on offense without doing much aggressively.

In four games with a play-it-safe approach, we post a total of 20 points (3-0-14-3) and I decide it's time to try something new.

So, for the final six games, i tweak some key settings -- and we will try to pass 75% of the time on 1st and 10, and then run 80% of the time on second and long. We'll try to benefit from doing the unexpected.
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Old 05-01-2010, 11:50 AM   #41
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Basically, nothing to see here in terms of the team accomplishing anything. Pretty much as expected.

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Front Office Football 2007 2011 Summary for Buffalo Bills Year 2011 Record 2-14 Winning Pct. .125 All-Time 9-39 Winning Pct. .187 Playoffs 0-0 Playoff Visits 0 Bowl Wins 0 Head Coach Sam Frederick Record 3-29 Winning Pct. .093 Off. Coord. J. Gooding Def. Coord. A. Newton Buffalo Bills Team Rank Rushes per Game 20.1 32 Rushing Yards 62.6 32 Yards Per Carry 3.11 32 Pass Attempts 34.2 11 Completions 16.4 30 Completion Pct. 47.9 32 Passing Yards 158.4 31 Yards Per Attempt 4.63 32 Yards Per Catch 9.68 31 Total Yardage Gained 203.0 32 3rd Down Conversions 27.9 32 Points Per Game 7.7 32 Pass Rush Pct. 13.3 32 Pass Defense Pct. 36.6 32 Turnovers 36 30 (T) Turnover Margin -14 30 Opponents Team Rank Rushes per Game 38.8 32 Rushing Yards 166.9 32 Yards Per Carry 4.31 25 Pass Attempts 27.7 3 Completions 19.3 12 (T) Completion Pct. 69.8 32 Passing Yards 205.1 7 Yards Per Attempt 7.41 27 Yards Per Catch 10.62 7 Total Yardage Gained 366.5 32 3rd Down Conversions 38.5 25 Points Per Game 25.9 32 Pass Rush Pct. 26.2 32 Pass Defense Pct. 84.8 32 Turnovers 22 24 (T) Week Team Versus Oppnt 1 14 at NED 34 2 7 PHI 20 3 19 at CLE 16 4 13 at MIA 24 5 7 at DEN 29 6 7 OAK 33 8 3 SDO 29 9 0 NYJ 23 10 14 at KCY 30 11 3 NED 18 12 3 at DAL 31 13 3 JAX 30 14 10 WAS 7 15 3 MIA 29 16 10 at NYK 33 17 7 at NYJ 29 Passing Pos Att Comp Yards Y/Att TD Int Rate 17 T. Wisniewski QB 419 204 1999 4.77 7 17 51.2 6 T. Duran QB 124 56 511 4.12 0 9 26.7 **Team --- 547 262 2535 4.63 7 26 45.7 $$Opp --- 443 309 3281 7.41 21 10 97.5 Rushing Pos Att Yards Y/Att TD Fum 24 H. Harmon RB 135 390 2.89 1 1 Front Office Football 2007 34 J. Swift RB 93 319 3.43 2 4 21 J. Ogu RB 35 129 3.69 0 0 **Team --- 322 1002 3.11 4 29 $$Opp --- 620 2670 4.31 15 21 Receiving Pos Targ Catch Yards Y/Ctc Y/Tar Drop TD 89 C. Giles WR 123 59 715 12.12 5.81 6 1 83 O. Spencer WR 97 45 445 9.89 4.59 1 3 13 G. Owens WR 76 37 442 11.95 5.82 3 0 41 P. Fredrickson TE 42 23 130 5.65 3.10 3 0 86 M. Pulido WR 47 22 210 9.55 4.47 5 0 Defense Pos Tack Asst Sack Hurr Ints Defn PDPct 91 B. Hanaki ILB 104 42 1.0 1 0 0 71.9 54 R. Israelson OLB 92 19 4.0 1 1 6 72.4 93 B. Brownlee ILB 88 37 0.0 0 2 3 73.9 43 K. Boyd S 74 34 0.0 0 1 4 77.4 52 W. Whitfield ILB 61 15 0.0 1 0 2 75.1 55 T. Linquist OLB 43 16 0.0 9 0 1 79.9 74 C. Grebene DT 37 21 4.0 6 0 0 82.1 30 A. Lynch S 36 12 0.0 0 0 6 80.3 28 L. Ford CB 35 7 0.0 0 0 4 76.8 31 X. Marx CB 35 7 0.0 0 0 5 75.3 39 K. Alexander S 35 10 0.0 0 3 1 81.2 23 K. Buford CB 32 7 0.0 0 0 8 80.3 96 K. Ballard DT 31 7 0.5 1 0 0 79.7 78 W. Barlow DE 30 14 1.0 7 0 0 79.8 79 J. Godfrey DE 29 10 0.0 3 0 0 80.4 51 S. Wynn OLB 28 10 1.5 2 0 3 76.5 99 C. Chapman DE 24 16 0.0 4 0 0 81.1 20 A. Blanchard CB 22 8 0.0 0 2 1 76.3 33 G. Kawaguchi CB 17 6 0.0 0 0 1 76.3
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Tough to say what the stats tell us about DT Grebene, but he had a +2 rookie camp, a pretty good statistical season (9.2 T%, 4.7 PR%) and now scouts at 25/29.
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I will advance to the next post-draft stage, and post a new file shortly.
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Old 05-01-2010, 12:07 PM   #44
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Notes from the post-draft screen:

QB Winston Cooley - 86 PSpec and 4.37 dash!!! but three greens
C Raymond Booth - 5.04 dash and max run blocking bar
WR Bucky Pexna - 6.96 agil
S Richie Alexander - 47 Sole, 45 PSpec
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Interesting stuff, as usual. I've always found this concept interesting and naturally, I'm not nearly good enough at FOF to attempt it, but I'm thinking a baseball variation could be in the offing.
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Here's a new file... contents to be added to those from the previous ones.

http://www.sevenshuffles.com/QuikSand/imtbuf_2012.zip

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Old 05-01-2010, 12:19 PM   #47
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MIJB, my general experience is that while there will be guys with good-looking bars who slide through the whole draft, and there will be guys with some great combines who slide through...it's very rare to find guys with both who do. My usual expectation here is to find *either* low bar creepers (guys like Wisnieswki) or good-bar guys who slide but remain worthwhile.

A guy like Ethridge, even after a -11 camp,might still be worth keeping around, at least for now. Here's a look at him post-camp:

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With those reds in zone, int, and ST... I see a guy who could be very solid as a nickel back for the long haul, even.
I hear ya. It was just a bit moaning about me giving some so-so advice.

I'll grab the new file and make another set of well educated guesses on guys who seem to be semi-decent but will still likely lose potential after camp.
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Old 05-01-2010, 01:15 PM   #48
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Some somewhat-obvious suggestions:
RB Michael Barker, 50+ for hole recognition and speed to outside in experience.
WR James Gillespie, returnman (and basically nothing but).
K Scottie Kirchhof, could be a top-notch kickoff specialist, if you're into using a roster spot for that.
DE Leo Gerken, run defense potential, punishing hitter.
DT Edgar Hoffman and Mark Terrell, 40-time under 5.00.
DT R.J. Tuholski, 22/29 and only 48% developed, decent strength and agility.
WILB Andy Fitzgerald, decent 40-yd dash.
MLB Jamie Fletcher and SLB Glen Clausen, strange set of bars, very developed for a rookie.
WLB Scott Rust, run defense, zone defense, speicla teams.
RCB Juan Sawyer, punt returning, interceptions, broad jump score.
LT Earl Linquist and LG Colin Huntley, pass blockers with good agility scores.
SS Roy Harrison, 43 position drill.
LDE Derek Alcott.
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Old 05-02-2010, 01:49 PM   #49
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Okay, took a huge slate of stiffs into training camp this year. I think at the end of season three, we can start filling in the roster puzzle a bit -- basically reaching some conclusions on what guys on the roster then are long term keepers, and what slots we feel we have more or less in hand.
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Old 05-02-2010, 01:51 PM   #50
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One interesting twist... QB Tommie Duran, our #2 last year who got around 100 passes in reserve, is already "angry" and unwilling to sign for a year two. I plan to re-sign him after camp if possible, staying at least broadly within my own rules... but will try to avoid such a situation again. In my history, guys who inexplicably are pissed off about playing time are often better than their visible ratings suggest. Interesting tidbit, we'll see if he gets grabbed in free agency before we can reclaim him.
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