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Old 05-02-2010, 01:54 PM   #51
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I bum training camp up an extra hour for playbook study, hoping to get a couple more formations for our young QB Wisniewski.

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Top Ten Most Likely Busts: Name Team Pos Change Dunlap, Peter Buffalo LT -14 Federspiel, Jimmie Buffalo K -11 Spencer, O.J. Buffalo FL -9 Rodriguez, Chris Buffalo QB -8 Hoffman, Edgar Buffalo NT -6 Ford, Lincoln Buffalo LCB -6 Rust, Scott Buffalo SLB -6 Booth, Raymond Buffalo C -6 Pulido, Mel Buffalo SE -6 Clausen, Glen Buffalo SLB -5 Top Ten Most Likely Breakouts: Name Team Pos Change Owens, Gus Buffalo FL 3 Penxa, Bucky Buffalo FL 2 Rackley, D.J. Buffalo TE 1 Tuholski, R.J. Buffalo LDT 1 Barlow, Walt Buffalo LDE 1 Chapman, Corey Buffalo LDE 1 Whitfield, Willie Buffalo SILB 1 Brownlee, Ben Buffalo SILB 1 Buford, Keith Buffalo RCB 1 Linquist, Todd Buffalo WLB 1

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Old 05-02-2010, 01:55 PM   #52
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Buffalo Bills Player Report

(IMTBUF2012c - IMTBUF2012d)



NamePosTeamIMTBUF2012c CurrentIMTBUF2012c FutureIMTBUF2012d CurrentIMTBUF2012d FutureOverall Current ChangeOverall Future Change
Borgerson, ScottieQBBuffalo102913 (3)29 (0)30
Cooley, WinstonQBBuffalo83210 (2)32 (0)20
Rodriguez, ChrisQBBuffalo164518 (2)37 (-8)2-8
Shepherd, RexQBBuffalo184521 (3)40 (-5)3-5
Stephenson, C.J.QBBuffalo134115 (2)41 (0)20
Wisniewski, TracyQBBuffalo112514 (3)25 (0)30
Barker, MichaelRBBuffalo243025 (1)31 (1)11
Clinton, HughRBBuffalo293829 (0)34 (-4)0-4
Harmon, HermanRBBuffalo324034 (2)40 (0)20
Swift, JeremyRBBuffalo294131 (2)41 (0)20
Brigham, LorenzoFBBuffalo284130 (2)41 (0)20
Manning, VernonFBBuffalo122113 (1)20 (-1)1-1
Small, RussellFBBuffalo363636 (0)36 (0)00
Fredrickson, PeterTEBuffalo345338 (4)53 (0)40
Mitting, IsaacTEBuffalo253227 (2)32 (0)20
Rackley, D.J.TEBuffalo284332 (4)44 (1)41
Owens, GusFLBuffalo233726 (3)40 (3)33
Penxa, BuckyFLBuffalo152817 (2)30 (2)22
Spencer, O.J.FLBuffalo273829 (2)29 (-9)2-9
Giles, CarlosSEBuffalo233125 (2)31 (0)20
Gillespie, JamesSEBuffalo133315 (2)31 (-2)2-2
Lee, EdwardSEBuffalo152417 (2)24 (0)20
Pulido, MelSEBuffalo243125 (1)25 (-6)1-6
Booth, RaymondCBuffalo136218 (5)56 (-6)5-6
Garrison, RandalCBuffalo124516 (4)41 (-4)4-4
Greene, EdCBuffalo313835 (4)38 (0)40
McKenzie, ShannonCBuffalo205325 (5)53 (0)50
Musum, RyanLGBuffalo353536 (1)36 (1)11
Lowery, BradRGBuffalo233925 (2)39 (0)20
McLain, RodRGBuffalo263430 (4)34 (0)40
Beyer, AlexLTBuffalo272727 (0)27 (0)00
Dunlap, PeterLTBuffalo125314 (2)39 (-14)2-14
Linquist, EarlLTBuffalo164619 (3)43 (-3)3-3
Nygaard, GinoLTBuffalo253025 (0)30 (0)00
Federspiel, JimmieKBuffalo415241 (0)41 (-11)0-11
Kirchhof, ScottieKBuffalo161916 (0)17 (-2)0-2
Springer, CurtisPBuffalo354936 (1)49 (0)10
Barlow, WaltLDEBuffalo233525 (2)36 (1)21
Chapman, CoreyLDEBuffalo253127 (2)32 (1)21
Gerken, LeoLDEBuffalo194022 (3)39 (-1)3-1
Griffith, WayneLDEBuffalo103812 (2)34 (-4)2-4
Pearson, BrantLDEBuffalo102912 (2)29 (0)20
Ballard, KendallLDTBuffalo253928 (3)39 (0)30
Tuholski, R.J.LDTBuffalo232927 (4)30 (1)41
Terrell, MarkRDTBuffalo123416 (4)33 (-1)4-1
Grebene, ClarenceNTBuffalo252926 (1)29 (0)10
Hoffman, EdgarNTBuffalo165118 (2)45 (-6)2-6
Farr, DarrenRDEBuffalo164018 (2)39 (-1)2-1
Godfrey, JustinRDEBuffalo253127 (2)30 (-1)2-1
Sanaee, BubbaRDEBuffalo273429 (2)34 (0)20
Clausen, GlenSLBBuffalo164018 (2)35 (-5)2-5
Israelson, RaySLBBuffalo384340 (2)40 (-3)2-3
Rust, ScottSLBBuffalo125015 (3)44 (-6)3-6
Wynn, ShannonSLBBuffalo223526 (4)35 (0)40
Brownlee, BenSILBBuffalo303633 (3)37 (1)31
Whitfield, WillieSILBBuffalo242627 (3)27 (1)31
Fitzgerald, AndyWILBBuffalo102413 (3)24 (0)30
Hanaki, BertWILBBuffalo353535 (0)35 (0)00
Fletcher, JamieWLBBuffalo243827 (3)37 (-1)3-1
Linquist, ToddWLBBuffalo252627 (2)27 (1)21
Ford, LincolnLCBBuffalo293832 (3)32 (-6)3-6
Kawaguchi, GaryLCBBuffalo192221 (2)22 (0)20
Marx, XavierLCBBuffalo283830 (2)38 (0)20
Porcaro, MelvinLCBBuffalo154218 (3)38 (-4)3-4
Buford, KeithRCBBuffalo292930 (1)30 (1)11
Ethridge, LeonRCBBuffalo204124 (4)41 (0)40
Sawyer, JuanRCBBuffalo194121 (2)37 (-4)2-4
Alexander, KimSSBuffalo224225 (3)42 (0)30
Harrison, RoySSBuffalo175119 (2)46 (-5)2-5
Robinson, OtisSSBuffalo203019 (-1)26 (-4)-1-4
Alexander, RichieFSBuffalo81710 (2)17 (0)20
Lynch, AntonioFSBuffalo193922 (3)39 (0)30
Rutter, QuentinFSBuffalo324337 (5)43 (0)50
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Old 05-02-2010, 02:11 PM   #53
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Here's a visual look at the various QB options we have before us, more or less. With Wisniewski now really showing much growth (lack of a mentor hurting here?) I think it's probably time to give this position some serious thought. I think a look at the bars ought to help on that front:


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Old 05-02-2010, 02:18 PM   #54
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So, my feeling is that all Wisniewski has going for him at this point is the various "creeper" indications. Two flat camps down, and he is still at a potential rating of only 25. Maybe at this rate he continues to gain a couple points a season if he remains our starter...eventually becoming, what, a 34/34 veteran without many specific skills that truly aid a gameplan? (His best bar is basically the avoid rush)

Duran looks like the guy who right now would probably be the most useful, I suppose. The rest are the usual ragtag gang of castoffs. Cooley might be interesting with those fleet feet (wildcat QB material) but is likely a pick machine forever, given his combines.

So, I guess we have weaker prospects here than I had hoped when we had the strong initial camp from Wisniewski... I was hoping we'd be at something like 25/30 by now, and still counting out the steps ahead into the 40s or 50s perhaps.
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Old 05-02-2010, 02:57 PM   #55
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Two guys from this class who are personality conflicts. C Booth wasn't a tough cut after a -6 camp, but I really do like the looks of S Harrison. Even after a -5 camp Harrison still looks like a solid long term asset as a safety, return man, and special teamer. Would like to keep him, but I think the investment in chemistry is too important to dash that way.

I decide to move S Harrison to RB, where he actually looks to still be useful. He will get a shot maybe as our 3rd RB this year. I thought he would be an affinity, but i guess Jan 22 is in the wrong group...dang.
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Old 05-02-2010, 03:34 PM   #56
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I am thinking about splitting the starts this season between Duran and Wisniewski, at least to see if Duran demonstrates any more addition to the offense. Plan right now is to go with a slight derivation from Ben's "smash mouth" offensive gameplan posted publicly.
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Old 05-02-2010, 07:42 PM   #57
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So... half a season in the bag behind Wisniewski running a smash-mouth offense behind a lot of 2TE formations and a fair bit of inside running. And, we remain thoroughly dreadful on the field. We're 0-8, Wiz sits with a 39.7 rating, and the backup Duran (with 44 attempts in reserve) has a rating of 99.4. The fans are furious, they demand the backup-- and they will get him. We'll also be without starting TE (and developing stalwart) Frederickson, who will be out with an injury. Frederickson is nothing much in the passing game (which for us is nothing much anyway) but is developing into a heck of a run blocker for us.

We'll carry forward with Duran behind center, and the same gameplan in place...
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Old 05-02-2010, 08:08 PM   #58
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Front Office Football 2007 2012 Summary for Buffalo Bills Year 2012 Record 0-16 Winning Pct. .000 All-Time 9-55 Winning Pct. .140 Playoffs 0-0 Playoff Visits 0 Bowl Wins 0 Head Coach Sam Frederick Record 3-45 Winning Pct. .062 Off. Coord. J. Gooding Def. Coord. A. Newton Buffalo Bills Team Rank Rushes per Game 24.3 29 Rushing Yards 94.8 31 Yards Per Carry 3.90 20 Pass Attempts 33.8 14 Completions 16.5 31 Completion Pct. 48.8 32 Passing Yards 157.8 32 Yards Per Attempt 4.67 32 Yards Per Catch 9.56 31 Total Yardage Gained 234.5 32 3rd Down Conversions 29.4 32 Points Per Game 11.3 32 Pass Rush Pct. 18.8 23 Pass Defense Pct. 47.6 24 Turnovers 42 32 Turnover Margin -25 32 Opponents Team Rank Rushes per Game 35.9 32 Rushing Yards 151.2 32 Yards Per Carry 4.21 23 Pass Attempts 26.1 1 Completions 16.4 1 Completion Pct. 63.1 27 Passing Yards 187.9 1 Yards Per Attempt 7.21 28 Yards Per Catch 11.43 21 (T) Total Yardage Gained 329.8 17 3rd Down Conversions 38.8 22 Points Per Game 26.3 32 Pass Rush Pct. 22.9 29 Pass Defense Pct. 89.1 32 Turnovers 17 30 (T) Week Team Versus Oppnt 1 6 MIA 31 2 17 at ARI 24 3 18 CLE 28 4 20 at TEN 24 5 10 at IND 13 6 10 HOU 18 7 13 at MIA 34 9 3 JAX 16 10 7 NYJ 24 11 14 at NED 40 12 7 STL 31 13 6 at KCY 23 14 13 SEA 31 15 3 at NYJ 30 16 13 at SFO 19 17 21 NED 34 Passing Pos Att Comp Yards Y/Att TD Int Rate 3 T. Duran QB 302 147 1512 5.01 9 17 50.0 17 T. Wisniewski QB 211 102 905 4.29 2 12 39.7 **Team --- 541 264 2524 4.67 12 30 46.4 $$Opp --- 417 263 3006 7.21 17 9 89.2 Rushing Pos Att Yards Y/Att TD Fum 34 J. Swift RB 221 893 4.04 1 1 Front Office Football 2007 27 M. Barker RB 85 347 4.08 2 2 38 R. Harrison RB 70 245 3.50 0 0 **Team --- 389 1516 3.90 3 22 $$Opp --- 574 2419 4.21 20 15 Receiving Pos Targ Catch Yards Y/Ctc Y/Tar Drop TD 83 O. Spencer WR 97 49 475 9.69 4.90 8 3 89 C. Giles WR 109 47 347 7.38 3.18 5 1 13 G. Owens WR 91 43 520 12.09 5.71 4 2 88 B. Penxa WR 56 26 305 11.73 5.45 4 1 85 D. Rackley TE 43 21 221 10.52 5.14 0 0 81 I. Mitting TE 33 18 171 9.50 5.18 0 0 34 J. Swift RB 23 18 143 7.94 6.22 2 3 Defense Pos Tack Asst Sack Hurr Ints Defn PDPct 91 B. Hanaki ILB 107 34 0.5 0 0 1 69.7 50 B. Brownlee ILB 84 36 2.0 0 0 4 74.7 54 R. Israelson OLB 73 20 2.5 5 1 6 77.4 30 A. Lynch S 53 24 0.0 1 0 2 73.8 26 Q. Rutter S 51 28 1.0 0 2 7 83.8 55 T. Linquist OLB 49 12 5.5 11 0 3 79.4 98 B. Sanaee DE 41 9 2.0 5 0 0 82.5 31 X. Marx CB 37 18 0.0 0 0 1 77.0 28 L. Ford CB 35 7 1.0 0 4 7 84.7 99 C. Chapman DE 32 8 1.5 6 0 0 79.9 52 W. Whitfield ILB 31 9 0.0 0 0 2 65.6 22 L. Ethridge CB 30 7 0.0 0 1 9 82.5 96 K. Ballard DT 28 11 2.5 5 0 1 83.8 39 K. Alexander S 28 13 0.0 0 0 3 74.7 79 J. Godfrey DE 27 12 1.0 6 0 0 81.9 74 C. Grebene DT 27 20 1.0 3 0 0 82.0 78 W. Barlow DE 18 3 1.5 2 0 0 81.1 37 J. Sawyer CB 18 8 0.0 0 1 2 78.3 58 G. Clausen OLB 17 8 1.0 2 0 0 78.9

Okay, so there's nothing really all that different between 2-14 and 0-16, but this feels terrible, of course.

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Front Office Football 2007 Blocking Statistics Player Pos Team GP GS KRB KRO BPct Pnck SkA PPly SPct McLain, Rod G BUF 16 16 24 62 38.7 2 7 508 1.4 Musum, Ryan G BUF 16 16 17 62 27.4 2 5 457 1.1 Greene, Ed C BUF 12 12 15 40 37.5 0 5 300 1.7 Nygaard, Gino T BUF 16 16 13 36 36.1 0 7 490 1.4 Beyer, Alex T BUF 16 16 12 59 20.3 1 7 494 1.4 Lowery, Brad G BUF 16 0 6 28 21.4 0 2 205 1.0 Small, Russell FB BUF 16 15 5 15 33.3 1 1 245 0.4 McKenzie, Shannon C BUF 16 0 4 20 20.0 0 2 166 1.2 Linquist, Earl T BUF 16 0 4 11 36.4 0 2 186 1.1 Fredrickson, Peter TE BUF 8 8 3 10 30.0 0 0 158 0.0 Brigham, Lorenzo FB BUF 16 2 2 9 22.2 0 1 154 0.6 Rackley, D.J. TE BUF 16 11 1 11 9.1 0 0 223 0.0 Garrison, Randal C BUF 4 4 1 11 9.1 0 5 119 4.2 Mitting, Isaac TE BUF 16 4 0 2 0.0 0 0 220 0.0 Player Pos Team RPly OPct McLain, Rod G BUF 327 19.0 Musum, Ryan G BUF 295 21.0 Greene, Ed C BUF 210 19.0 Nygaard, Gino T BUF 313 11.5 Beyer, Alex T BUF 329 17.9 Lowery, Brad G BUF 156 17.9 Small, Russell FB BUF 220 6.8 McKenzie, Shannon C BUF 108 18.5 Linquist, Earl T BUF 136 8.1 Fredrickson, Peter TE BUF 182 5.5 Brigham, Lorenzo FB BUF 144 6.3 Rackley, D.J. TE BUF 210 5.2 Garrison, Randal C BUF 71 15.5 Mitting, Isaac TE BUF 118 1.7 KRB - Key Run Blocks, KRO - Key Run Block Opportunities, BPct - Key Run Block Percentage, Pnck = Pancake Blocks, SkA - Sacks Allowed, PPly - Passing Plays on Field, SPct - Sack Allowed Percentage, RPly - Rushing Plays on Field, OPct - Block Opportunity Percentage.

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Front Office Football 2007 Miscellaneous Statistics Player Pos Team GP GS Fum Rec FReTD FF STTck STPly Swift, Jeremy RB BUF 16 16 1 0 0 0 0 25 Owens, Gus WR BUF 16 13 1 1 0 0 0 31 Spencer, O.J. WR BUF 16 1 1 2 0 0 1 162 Barker, Michael RB BUF 16 0 2 1 0 0 2 293 Giles, Carlos WR BUF 16 10 1 0 0 0 1 151 Penxa, Bucky WR BUF 16 0 1 0 0 0 0 82 Harrison, Roy RB BUF 16 0 0 1 0 0 15 97 Rackley, D.J. TE BUF 16 11 2 1 0 0 0 90 Mitting, Isaac TE BUF 16 4 0 0 0 0 4 248 Fredrickson, Peter TE BUF 8 8 0 0 0 0 1 56 Brigham, Lorenzo FB BUF 16 2 0 1 0 0 3 192 Gillespie, James WR BUF 16 0 2 0 0 0 2 194 Duran, Tommie QB BUF 12 8 5 0 0 0 0 0 Small, Russell FB BUF 16 15 1 0 0 0 25 164 Cooley, Winston QB BUF 4 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 Wisniewski, Tracy QB BUF 8 8 1 1 0 0 0 0 Greene, Ed C BUF 12 12 0 0 0 0 0 23 McLain, Rod G BUF 16 16 0 1 0 0 3 123 Musum, Ryan G BUF 16 16 0 0 0 0 0 57 Beyer, Alex T BUF 16 16 0 0 0 0 0 3 Federspiel, Jimmie K BUF 16 0 0 0 0 0 0 67 Sanaee, Bubba DE BUF 16 16 0 0 0 0 0 41 Godfrey, Justin DE BUF 16 0 0 1 0 1 0 99 Ballard, Kendall DT BUF 16 0 0 1 0 1 0 37 Hanaki, Bert ILB BUF 16 13 0 1 0 0 1 156 Whitfield, Willie ILB BUF 16 0 0 0 0 1 0 33 Israelson, Ray OLB BUF 16 16 0 0 0 1 0 61 Linquist, Todd OLB BUF 16 16 0 0 0 2 0 28 Kawaguchi, Gary CB BUF 16 0 0 0 0 0 2 159 Robinson, Otis S BUF 8 0 0 1 1 1 6 131 Ford, Lincoln CB BUF 16 3 0 1 0 1 0 43 Rutter, Quentin S BUF 16 16 0 0 0 0 0 50 McKenzie, Shannon C BUF 16 0 0 0 0 0 4 122 Lowery, Brad G BUF 16 0 0 1 0 0 4 123 Springer, Curtis P BUF 16 0 0 0 0 0 0 123 Barlow, Walt DE BUF 16 0 0 0 0 1 0 30 Grebene, Clarence DT BUF 16 16 0 0 0 0 0 48 Chapman, Corey DE BUF 16 16 0 1 0 0 0 60 Brownlee, Ben ILB BUF 16 16 0 1 0 3 0 45 Wynn, Shannon OLB BUF 5 0 0 1 0 0 5 125 Ethridge, Leon CB BUF 16 3 0 0 0 0 0 188 Marx, Xavier CB BUF 16 16 0 0 0 0 0 41 Lynch, Antonio S BUF 16 16 0 0 0 0 0 39 Alexander, Kim S BUF 16 0 0 0 0 2 3 149 Linquist, Earl T BUF 16 0 0 0 0 0 2 123 Clausen, Glen OLB BUF 11 0 0 0 0 0 0 210 Sawyer, Juan CB BUF 16 13 4 0 0 1 0 89 Player Pos Team TDs 2PC Pts APYds Avg/G YScrm Avg/G Swift, Jeremy RB BUF 4 0 24 1036 64.8 1036 64.8 Owens, Gus WR BUF 2 0 12 520 32.5 520 32.5 Spencer, O.J. WR BUF 6 1 38 1589 99.3 475 29.7 Barker, Michael RB BUF 2 0 12 388 24.3 388 24.3 Giles, Carlos WR BUF 1 0 6 357 22.3 347 21.7 Penxa, Bucky WR BUF 1 0 6 305 19.1 305 19.1 Harrison, Roy RB BUF 1 0 6 300 18.8 300 18.8 Rackley, D.J. TE BUF 0 0 0 221 13.8 221 13.8 Mitting, Isaac TE BUF 0 0 0 171 10.7 171 10.7 Fredrickson, Peter TE BUF 0 0 0 146 18.3 146 18.3 Brigham, Lorenzo FB BUF 1 0 6 54 3.4 54 3.4 Gillespie, James WR BUF 0 0 0 380 23.8 31 1.9 Duran, Tommie QB BUF 0 0 0 23 1.9 23 1.9 Small, Russell FB BUF 0 0 0 15 0.9 15 0.9 Cooley, Winston QB BUF 0 0 0 5 1.3 5 1.3 Wisniewski, Tracy QB BUF 0 0 0 3 0.4 3 0.4 Sawyer, Juan CB BUF 1 0 6 241 15.1 0 0.0 Fum - Fumbles, Rec - Fumbles Recovered, FReTD - Fumble Recoveries for Touchdown, FF - Fumbles Forced, STTck - Special Team Tackles, STPly - Special Team Plays, TDs - Touchdowns Scored, 2PC - Two-Point Conversions, Pts - Points Scored, APYds - All-Purpose Yards, Avg/G - All-Purpose Yards per Game, YScrm - Yards from Scrimmage, Avg/G - Yards from Scrimmage per Game.
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Old 05-02-2010, 08:32 PM   #59
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From the 2013 post-draft sortable pages:

WR Blaine Hansen 4.44 dash
SS jermaine Kohn, 45 Pspec, 4.53 dash, lots of phony bars
LT Joel Tadlock, 47 Sole, 7.62 agil, two good bars
DT Warren Pribbernow, 34 str, two big bars
DE Benjamin Castillo, same deal
CB Dexter Hasken, 7.06 agil, 33 sole, 2 nearmax return bars
QB Rondell Barker, 90 PSpec, bars for west coast offense
QB Marlon Tartabull, long passing, good lower bars, 34 test
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Old 05-02-2010, 08:34 PM   #60
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Here is a new file, for those making the effort to keep up (MIJB?)...

http://www.sevenshuffles.com/QuikSand/imtbills_2013.zip
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Old 05-02-2010, 08:49 PM   #61
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Some quick thoughts on what players we have aboard from the first three seasons are likely to be here long term:

Position Group: QB
Anchor Players/Solid Starters:
Reserves Worth Long Term Spot: Tommie Duran (3x affinity, best performer so far)
Special Teamers/Alternative Uses:
Chemistry Centerpieces:


Position Group: RB/FB
Anchor Players/Solid Starters:
Reserves Worth Long Term Spot:
Special Teamers/Alternative Uses: FB Russell Small (gunner, ST, playable)
Chemistry Centerpieces: FB Vernon Manning


Position Group: WR/TE
Anchor Players/Solid Starters: TE Peter Frederickson (great blocking TE, long snapper)
Reserves Worth Long Term Spot: WR Gus Owens, WR Bucky Penxa
Special Teamers/Alternative Uses:
Chemistry Centerpieces: WR Edward Lee

Position Group: OL
Anchor Players/Solid Starters:
Reserves Worth Long Term Spot: RG Rod McLain (67 Run Bl, affinity leader), LG Ryan Musum, LT Alex Beyer
Special Teamers/Alternative Uses:
Chemistry Centerpieces:


Position Group: DL
Anchor Players/Solid Starters:
Reserves Worth Long Term Spot: NT Clarence Grebene
Special Teamers/Alternative Uses:
Chemistry Centerpieces: DE Justin Godfrey (66 Run D)


Position Group: LB
Anchor Players/Solid Starters: SLB Ray Israelson (quite solid other than Run D)
Reserves Worth Long Term Spot: SILB Ben Brownlee (decent lower bars), WILB Bert Hanaki (66 Run D)
Special Teamers/Alternative Uses: SLB Shannon Wynn (gunner, reserve coverage LB)
Chemistry Centerpieces:


Position Group: DB
Anchor Players/Solid Starters:
Reserves Worth Long Term Spot: CB Xavier Marx, CB Leon Ethridge, CB Juan Sawyer, S Quentin Rutter, S Antonio Lynch
Special Teamers/Alternative Uses:
Chemistry Centerpieces: S Otis Robinson

So, that makes 22 players that I, more or less, figure to have around after another 5, maybe 10, seasons in one capacity or another. Obviously landing a serious creeper or otherwise very useful engine at any position changes the game there... but basically we're still waiting for most of our defensive line and our ball carriers.
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Old 05-03-2010, 11:11 AM   #62
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You rang, sir?
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Old 05-03-2010, 11:46 AM   #63
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Disappointing affair so far. Even for the early stages, 0-16 and 32's across the board doesn't sound like your average IMT experience...

QB Robbie Everett - Probably has sense rush abilty and has a high Sole score lowish intelligence combo.
RB Levon Malone - receiving skills, affinity(?), WR project?
RB Harry Gaylor - probably overrated, but does seem to have a breakaway speed and hole recognition combo.
RB Rod Bovee - 90+ elusiveness (RB2!), special teams, receiving skills, return skills are fake.
TE Wally Jenkins - no way that 25/59 can be for reall, but worth a shot, no?
WR Deon McLane - return man.
WR Blaine Hanson - big play abilty is probably for real.
OT Stan Klinger - interesting agility score.
OT Rex Goldstein - decent agility score.
OT Greg Kowall - okay 40-time.
DE Leslie Barrett - run stopper.
DE Jay Wynn - very impressive Solescore and agilty test combo.
DE Ted May - pass rusher with play diagnosis.
DE Wade Harding - play diagnosis with pass rushing.
DT Alfred Yoder - pass rush technique, play diagnosis.
DT Leon Mills - 40-time under 5.00.
OLB Alex Hinds - pass defender?
OLB Max Hansen - slightly overrated run defender.
CB Ethan Rayburn - 47 position score.
CB Leslie Davidson - 45 position score.
S Jermaine Kohn - can't be for real, but with a 46 position score, who knows?
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Old 05-03-2010, 12:48 PM   #64
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One interesting twist... QB Tommie Duran, our #2 last year who got around 100 passes in reserve, is already "angry" and unwilling to sign for a year two. I plan to re-sign him after camp if possible, staying at least broadly within my own rules... but will try to avoid such a situation again. In my history, guys who inexplicably are pissed off about playing time are often better than their visible ratings suggest. Interesting tidbit, we'll see if he gets grabbed in free agency before we can reclaim him.

Do you have a sense of whether that kind of inexplicable pissed-off indicates "This guy is actually pretty good" or "This guy is actually better than the starter (which, on our team, does not mean that he is actually any good)"
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Old 05-03-2010, 04:37 PM   #65
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Do you have a sense of whether that kind of inexplicable pissed-off indicates "This guy is actually pretty good" or "This guy is actually better than the starter (which, on our team, does not mean that he is actually any good)"

On most teams, this is most evident when the starter is, say, a 50/50 guy, and the pissed-off reserve is a 28/38 creeper. Then, I tend to take it as a signal that the young guy has some real room to grow.

Here, I'm not really sure, but I definitely do still consider it a good sign that he's pissed. For instance, none of these other 15/40 stiffs are at all peeved about sitting behind a 15/25 starter. So even if those guys are *truly* 32/32 guys underneath, they don't ever seem to get heady about it.

If that clarifies at all...
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Old 05-03-2010, 07:55 PM   #66
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..and I take it back. C.J. Stephenson is disgruntled.
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Old 05-03-2010, 08:04 PM   #67
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Top Ten Most Likely Busts: Name Team Pos Change Yoder, Alfred Buffalo RDT -9 Israelson, Ray Buffalo SLB -8 Hinds, Alex Buffalo SLB -7 Kohn, Jermaine Buffalo SS -7 Lee, Edward Buffalo SE -7 Jenkins, Wally Buffalo TE -7 Manning, Vernon Buffalo FB -6 Kelley, Kelvin Buffalo FB -6 Hansen, Max Buffalo SILB -6 Fredrickson, Peter Buffalo TE -5 Top Ten Most Likely Breakouts: Name Team Pos Change Springer, Curtis Buffalo P 11 Penxa, Bucky Buffalo FL 5 Greene, Ed Buffalo C 2 Coffey, Joe Buffalo RB 1 Duran, Tommie Buffalo QB 1 Spencer, O.J. Buffalo FL 1 Small, Russell Buffalo FB 1 Gaylor, Harry Buffalo RB 1 Linquist, Earl Buffalo LT 1 Lynch, Antonio Buffalo FS 1

So, we get a random super breakout...and it's from the...punter?!?!?!?? Really? That's a sick joke here.

Nice move from WR Penxa, likely makes him a starter for a while. BUt nothing too serious from any of the rookies. Full report on its way momentarily.
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Old 05-03-2010, 08:05 PM   #68
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Buffalo Bills Player Report

(IMTBUF2013c - IMTBUF2013d)



NamePosTeamIMTBUF2013c CurrentIMTBUF2013c FutureIMTBUF2013d CurrentIMTBUF2013d FutureOverall Current ChangeOverall Future Change
Barker, RondellQBBuffalo5408 (3)37 (-3)3-3
Cooley, WinstonQBBuffalo103112 (2)32 (1)21
Duran, TommieQBBuffalo162719 (3)28 (1)31
Everett, RobbieQBBuffalo154019 (4)39 (-1)4-1
Stephenson, C.J.QBBuffalo154118 (3)41 (0)30
Tartabull, MarlonQBBuffalo133618 (5)33 (-3)5-3
Wisniewski, TracyQBBuffalo152618 (3)27 (1)31
Barker, MichaelRBBuffalo263127 (1)31 (0)10
Bovee, RodRBBuffalo183119 (1)27 (-4)1-4
Coffey, JoeRBBuffalo232525 (2)26 (1)21
Gaylor, HarryRBBuffalo253828 (3)39 (1)31
Harrison, RoyRBBuffalo223924 (2)39 (0)20
Malone, LevonRBBuffalo274428 (1)43 (-1)1-1
Swift, JeremyRBBuffalo313434 (3)34 (0)30
Brigham, LorenzoFBBuffalo324035 (3)40 (0)30
Kelley, KelvinFBBuffalo175019 (2)44 (-6)2-6
Manning, VernonFBBuffalo142011 (-3)14 (-6)-3-6
Small, RussellFBBuffalo353536 (1)36 (1)11
Fredrickson, PeterTEBuffalo495752 (3)52 (-5)3-5
Jenkins, WallyTEBuffalo266129 (3)54 (-7)3-7
Mitting, IsaacTEBuffalo282828 (0)28 (0)00
Polston, RickTEBuffalo193321 (2)33 (0)20
Rackley, D.J.TEBuffalo333837 (4)38 (0)40
Hansen, BlaineFLBuffalo173518 (1)32 (-3)1-3
McLane, DeonFLBuffalo132616 (3)24 (-2)3-2
Owens, GusFLBuffalo283530 (2)36 (1)21
Penxa, BuckyFLBuffalo243130 (6)36 (5)65
Spencer, O.J.FLBuffalo282829 (1)29 (1)11
Lee, EdwardSEBuffalo172412 (-5)17 (-7)-5-7
Bernstein, MarcusCBuffalo145221 (7)49 (-3)7-3
Garrison, RandalCBuffalo153818 (3)38 (0)30
Greene, EdCBuffalo363739 (3)39 (2)32
Musum, RyanLGBuffalo373737 (0)37 (0)00
Lowery, BradRGBuffalo253327 (2)33 (0)20
McLain, RodRGBuffalo373737 (0)37 (0)00
Beyer, AlexLTBuffalo272728 (1)28 (1)11
Goldstein, RexLTBuffalo114414 (3)44 (0)30
Kowall, GregLTBuffalo115213 (2)47 (-5)2-5
Linquist, EarlLTBuffalo204123 (3)42 (1)31
Donovan, TommieRTBuffalo235326 (3)50 (-3)3-3
Klinger, StanRTBuffalo184421 (3)45 (1)31
Nygaard, GinoRTBuffalo263027 (1)30 (0)10
Federspiel, JimmieKBuffalo393940 (1)40 (1)11
Springer, CurtisPBuffalo353546 (11)46 (11)1111
Castillo, BenjaminLDEBuffalo192319 (0)22 (-1)0-1
Chapman, CoreyLDEBuffalo293230 (1)30 (-2)1-2
Wynn, JayLDEBuffalo104413 (3)40 (-4)3-4
Ballard, KendallLDTBuffalo292929 (0)29 (0)00
Mills, LionelRDTBuffalo163619 (3)35 (-1)3-1
Pribbernow, WarrenRDTBuffalo162017 (1)20 (0)10
Yoder, AlfredRDTBuffalo124313 (1)34 (-9)1-9
Grebene, ClarenceNTBuffalo292929 (0)29 (0)00
Barrett, LeslieRDEBuffalo93111 (2)31 (0)20
Godfrey, JustinRDEBuffalo292930 (1)30 (1)11
Harding, WadeRDEBuffalo153817 (2)34 (-4)2-4
May, TedRDEBuffalo133716 (3)36 (-1)3-1
Sanaee, BubbaRDEBuffalo313131 (0)31 (0)00
Clausen, GlenSLBBuffalo183321 (3)33 (0)30
Hinds, AlexSLBBuffalo184919 (1)42 (-7)1-7
Israelson, RaySLBBuffalo424234 (-8)34 (-8)-8-8
Wynn, ShannonSLBBuffalo263228 (2)32 (0)20
Brownlee, BenSILBBuffalo363636 (0)36 (0)00
Hansen, MaxSILBBuffalo125817 (5)52 (-6)5-6
Whitfield, WillieSILBBuffalo282828 (0)28 (0)00
Hanaki, BertWILBBuffalo343435 (1)35 (1)11
Fletcher, JamieWLBBuffalo273729 (2)36 (-1)2-1
Linquist, ToddWLBBuffalo272726 (-1)26 (-1)-1-1
Sherman, OrlandoWLBBuffalo131915 (2)19 (0)20
Davison, LeslieLCBBuffalo152917 (2)29 (0)20
Marx, XavierLCBBuffalo323534 (2)34 (-1)2-1
Ethridge, LeonRCBBuffalo263128 (2)31 (0)20
Rayburn, EthanRCBBuffalo153017 (2)29 (-1)2-1
Sawyer, JuanRCBBuffalo233425 (2)33 (-1)2-1
Alexander, KimSSBuffalo253727 (2)37 (0)20
Kohn, JermaineSSBuffalo154516 (1)38 (-7)1-7
Robinson, OtisSSBuffalo192622 (3)26 (0)30
Rutter, QuentinSSBuffalo294233 (4)42 (0)40
Lynch, AntonioFSBuffalo314035 (4)41 (1)41
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Ugh, just noticed the big hot on LB Israelson. Sucks. Possibly excepting the starting TE, that was pretty clearly our best player. I assume it was just random, so he may remain our starter, but a random LSOD for a team like this is pretty unkind.
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By the way, QB Duran gained two more formation to 14, while Wisniewski stuck at 10. I think Duran is the starter for this year.
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Old 05-03-2010, 08:45 PM   #71
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Been lurking for a couple days, but I'm really enjoying this thread. Learning a lot. Thanks for posting.
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Well, I'd comment... but instead I'll let the numbers do the talking.

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Front Office Football 2007 2013 Summary for Buffalo Bills Year 2013 Record 1-15 Winning Pct. .062 All-Time 10-70 Winning Pct. .125 Playoffs 0-0 Playoff Visits 0 Bowl Wins 0 Head Coach Sam Frederick Record 4-60 Winning Pct. .062 Off. Coord. J. Gooding Def. Coord. A. Newton Buffalo Bills Team Rank Rushes per Game 20.7 31 Rushing Yards 74.8 32 Yards Per Carry 3.61 31 Pass Attempts 31.9 20 (T) Completions 13.1 32 Completion Pct. 41.1 32 Passing Yards 138.4 32 Yards Per Attempt 4.33 32 Yards Per Catch 10.54 23 Total Yardage Gained 199.3 32 3rd Down Conversions 25.1 32 Points Per Game 12.1 31 Pass Rush Pct. 14.7 31 Pass Defense Pct. 36.9 30 Turnovers 27 17 (T) Turnover Margin 0 15 (T) Opponents Team Rank Rushes per Game 38.1 32 Rushing Yards 163.0 32 Yards Per Carry 4.28 25 Pass Attempts 26.6 2 Completions 18.6 6 (T) Completion Pct. 69.9 31 Passing Yards 213.4 14 Yards Per Attempt 8.03 31 Yards Per Catch 11.49 28 Total Yardage Gained 366.8 30 3rd Down Conversions 42.9 30 Points Per Game 24.4 28 Pass Rush Pct. 27.0 32 Pass Defense Pct. 100.0 32 Turnovers 27 13 (T) Week Team Versus Oppnt 1 6 at NYJ 24 2 16 CAR 17 3 21 at KCY 24 4 10 CLE 24 5 13 at MIA 17 6 10 at PIT 22 7 30 at BAL 23 8 7 NYJ 13 9 7 CIN 31 10 10 at NED 34 12 13 at NOS 41 13 6 JAX 20 14 22 at TBY 24 15 0 NED 31 16 9 ATL 21 17 13 MIA 24 Passing Pos Att Comp Yards Y/Att TD Int Rate 3 T. Duran QB 316 134 1495 4.73 5 13 45.3 17 T. Wisniewski QB 189 74 708 3.75 0 8 32.7 **Team --- 511 210 2214 4.33 5 24 38.0 $$Opp --- 425 297 3414 8.03 29 11 105.8 Rushing Pos Att Yards Y/Att TD Fum 34 J. Swift RB 175 642 3.67 4 1 Front Office Football 2007 44 L. Malone RB 83 299 3.60 1 2 43 H. Gaylor RB 34 126 3.71 0 1 **Team --- 331 1196 3.61 5 9 $$Opp --- 609 2608 4.28 13 22 Receiving Pos Targ Catch Yards Y/Ctc Y/Tar Drop TD 13 G. Owens WR 137 59 535 9.07 3.91 7 2 85 D. Rackley TE 151 52 496 9.54 3.28 13 1 41 P. Fredrickson TE 55 25 240 9.60 4.36 2 0 83 O. Spencer WR 63 23 287 12.48 4.56 5 1 80 W. Jenkins TE 45 16 199 12.44 4.42 4 0 Defense Pos Tack Asst Sack Hurr Ints Defn PDPct 91 B. Hanaki ILB 92 43 0.5 1 2 3 77.3 26 Q. Rutter S 75 28 0.0 0 1 2 75.1 54 R. Israelson OLB 72 22 0.0 1 0 4 68.9 52 W. Whitfield ILB 62 24 1.0 0 0 2 73.7 92 J. Fletcher OLB 56 17 3.0 5 0 0 78.2 22 L. Ethridge CB 52 7 0.0 0 2 7 75.4 30 A. Lynch S 51 19 0.0 0 1 5 78.3 31 X. Marx CB 43 9 0.0 0 1 4 75.8 24 L. Davison CB 38 9 0.0 0 2 5 80.2 50 B. Brownlee ILB 37 14 1.0 1 0 1 78.0 55 T. Linquist OLB 33 14 6.0 8 1 0 82.4 98 B. Sanaee DE 32 10 1.5 3 0 0 82.5 71 B. Castillo DE 30 9 2.5 6 0 1 82.5 37 J. Sawyer CB 29 7 0.0 0 0 0 69.4 90 T. May DE 29 15 2.5 2 0 0 79.9 79 J. Godfrey DE 27 15 2.0 1 0 0 81.1 74 C. Grebene DT 23 13 2.5 5 0 1 82.9 29 J. Kohn S 23 10 0.0 0 0 2 75.1 39 K. Alexander S 21 12 0.0 0 1 3 83.5 96 K. Ballard DT 17 6 0.0 2 0 0 79.5
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Old 05-03-2010, 10:33 PM   #73
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Not sure what is the right thing to do here. Just wait things out until cohesion and chemistry start to work in our favor? Make a real commitment toward a gameplan, and start being more selective in the style of player we bring aboard to fit the system? Not sure.
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Old 05-03-2010, 10:45 PM   #74
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WR Jamie Hamilton 4.42/6.96
QB Wesley Fialho 4.52, 34 test, 84 PSpec
QB Freddie Meier, big bars
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Old 05-03-2010, 10:48 PM   #75
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New file, into the next free agency period:

http://www.sevenshuffles.com/QuikSand/imtbills2014.zip

Very open to just about any thoughts here, at this point.
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Old 05-04-2010, 07:18 AM   #76
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I'd keep with Duran. At a minimum, maybe we learn a bit more about why he was so angry.

Also, maybe just so we have something to do other than rinse, repeat, I think that we should commit to a gameplan and try to work toward it to the extent possible. I don't even think that it really matters what kind of gameplan--just something around which to build.

And, finally, if this goes on for 20 years with no noticeable improvement, then maybe FOF has changed such that IMT success is no longer possible. If that is the case, then maybe it should evolve into a "no players before the 4th round" kind of thing.

But, I think that we are a ways from that. I have confidence that the IMT guys will do just fine once they get used to playing together.
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Old 05-04-2010, 08:39 AM   #77
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That's a pretty good summary of my feelings as well.

My base thinking right now:

-our best OL are run-first guys at G... and there really aren't any serious passers in this bunch, it seems... so I'd think that a play toward a run-first and controlled passing would make the most sense as the base offense...trouble is, without big bars at accuracy and getting downfield, I fear that the 6.3 version of the short passing offense will be pretty well emasculated (if I'm understanding correctly the people who have been working on this stuff since the latest patches)

-As for defense, I have no real plan -- I have never been really crafty enough to come up with much of a base defensive gameplan other than "don't get caught with your pants down" meaning lots of median expectations and not too much blitzing... I don't have much more creative than that, to be honest (especially for a team that is not an offensive powerhouse)
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Old 05-04-2010, 08:54 AM   #78
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I've never had any idea how to defensive gameplan ever since Jim fixed the "blitz with one guy 100% of the time" exploit.

Maybe a running offense with a more balanced passing attack (i.e. a bit more downfield than one would otherwise have with a ball-control attack).
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Old 05-04-2010, 10:58 AM   #79
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Dang you rookie defensive linemen for not breaking out...
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Old 05-04-2010, 12:13 PM   #81
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Must get player.

I don't have the game up, but he's one of those guys with really weak bars... including the BPR, which shoudl have been good if that dash was any indication. Not sure if that means he will remain low-rated but will play over his ratings (a long time hunch) of it that suggests the 4.42 is just a mirage (and most of the rest of him is too). He'll definitely come to camp.

Also, it looks like I (in manually setting depth charts, which I don't do very often playing solo) benched the WR with a X in his name, and now he is livid. I will plan to do the re-sign after camp game with him, but it's possible he walks off and signs elsewhere. My bad.
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Old 05-04-2010, 01:59 PM   #82
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Three guys where a picture might provoke some discussion:



WR Hamilton... with "must get" combines and dreadful bars. AT least there's room for that BPR to be maybe a 40 or so... but still, what do we expect from this guy? Creeps up to 30? Plays better than that?

DE Benjamin Castillo - drafted for two big bars and an affinity. Got to start most of last year due to injury and my curiosity. State were on par for general low-rated guy. Rookie camp was -1 overall. Any reason to think this guy is going to develop to bring those top two bars (the ones I actually care about) in line with the rest, or is this guy now basically a finished product?

QB Tommie Duran - I guess he's our starter. Do these bars help determine what we ought to be doing with him back there?
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Old 05-04-2010, 02:07 PM   #83
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Hamilton: No idea. Do we still think that the combine bars translate to other positions? Since he has no skills at WR, do we try something crazy and change him to a DB or an RB? I haven't really played with that much at all in FOF, so I have no idea if that is crazy talk or not.

Castillo: Even if those top two bars show some improvement, can we really expect them to get to where we want them to be?

As for Duran, a QB without the ability to throw the ball between 11-30 yards is a . . . liability. That said, I think that we need to stick with the guy. And decentish bars at deep and 3rd down passing give us something which with to work.

I might try a run heavy offense with a slant toward the deep ball, and give him receivers to try and match that. His timing and sense rush bars mean that he can take those longer drops and maybe not get sacked so much and maybe even make a play out of it.

Just my 2c
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Castillo: Even if those top two bars show some improvement, can we really expect them to get to where we want them to be?

Okay, here's my more detailed thinking here:

In careers with limitations (empty cupboard, etc), I have a lot of experience fiddling around with a very low-skill offensive line... or at least a line where I won't invest much draft/cap capital. And in doing so, there's a certain "pattern" player that I have become pretty fond of. His initial bars will look zero or near zero in the areas that I generally consider to be the keys to on-field performance: run blocking and pass blocking. But he will have a strong, even maxed-out bar in blocking strength. High endurance is another good sign, but I don't think it's essential for this pattern of player.

I have had a lot of experience landing guys like that, giving them playing time, and watching their bars in the top two areas move from voids to... well, pretty decent. Not studs, but guys who in time might be rated 30 or 40 in run blocking and pass blocking, which isn't bad given the late-round of after-draft investment required to get them. Actually, if you had the files for this IMT Bills team, you'd see that our current starting LT Alex Beyer is a mini-=creeping version of that style of player (though I don't think he will ever get to 30 on those top bars, I bet they have moved up since he started playing). Anyway... general concept: guys with a strong bar in a fixed skill can see the lousy or zero bars in the more variable skills start to drift up in time.

So... that's my theory with DE Castillo. I confess that I don't have a lot of past with guys like this at DE, as I am rarely patient enough to play them for long. But I halfway expected to see (and still do) some development of those zero/zero bars in Run D and PR Tech into the 5-1- range and then beyond. Would he eventually get to 40 in each? Don't know. Would he maybe play better than the zeroes would suggest? Don't know. But I have a theory, at least, that this guy was worth a season or three as a starter to find out.
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Well then, I defer to your better sense of these guys. And this is all a learning process anyway. So, play him and see if we can't learn this guy some run defense.
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Old 05-04-2010, 03:16 PM   #86
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Just typing up thoughts on random guys...

QB Patrick Cobb - The combines are within solid ranges and I tend to like guys who have bars that flow in a bit of a reverse J shape. (Yes, I'm serious.)

QB Jorge McElroy - Good combines, biggish long passing bar, percent developed does not match his 5/34 rating.

QB Corey Davison - Gotta give the no combine guy a look with that Sol and Pos.

WR Raymond Staat - Gotta get him. Paired GD and End bars, good big p, combines that fit for a solid starter in all places, 17 pct dev is way off 15/35 rating.

WR Ralph Bennett and WR Vince Bernard - I dunno, give a look, cut immediately if you don't get a +3 or more in camp.

WR Tracy Rund - Worth a camp. No combine, possible paired bar and decent looking big play.

LT Everett Price - Love a guy like this. Solid combines, pct dev mismatch, big block strength bar and funny reverse J to other bars.

I'll keep looking, but those are some guys I'd be interested in following as a start.
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For shits and giggles, have you considered playing a lot of Cs out of position in the other slots on your offensive line? You can usually get some better guys that way, and, maybe this has changed, but I did some testing that didn't see much of a negative to depth charting in all centers instead of sticking with lesser OL guys in proper spots. *shurg*
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C Kenny Delgado - Might be a quality body who gets somewhere with playing time.

WILB Daniel Canady - A few decent combines, could be a solid guy.

WILB Chester Hanson - Good strgt and punish, big pos.

MLB Alex Blair - Solid pos and good bars.

SLB Donovan Kirk - Seems to have some interesting things happening.

S Ross Wheelock - A few things to like with the combines and pct dev.

S Rick Brayshaw - Decent combines.

S O.J. Biletnikoff - Shurg. Generally speaking, I think it's tough to find good corners like this. Might have to just convert safeties and stuff.

Anyway, that's it for now. Would be a little interested in watching these guys through a camp.
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Hamilton: No idea. Do we still think that the combine bars translate to other positions? Since he has no skills at WR, do we try something crazy and change him to a DB or an RB? I haven't really played with that much at all in FOF, so I have no idea if that is crazy talk or not.
I'd like to see where that get downfield and big play bar sit after camp. His combine scores send a message of a wingman type, not thinking in the 90's, but more of a 65ish type of guy in those two particular areas.
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I put Hamilton's current BPR at between 35-39. I don't think there's any real give in that rating... he's never going to be a 65 or even a 50 guy at BPR without a random breakout.
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Here are some pre-camp markers for our rookie receivers:

Name - GD, BPR

Rund - 16/76, 36
Bernard - 20, 38
Staat - 24/90, 64
Bennett - 16/21, 40
Hamilton - 27/30, 39
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Top Ten Most Likely Busts: Name Team Pos Change Meier, Freddie Buffalo QB -8 Jamison, Charlie Buffalo RB -8 Monroe, Marshall Buffalo K -7 Wheelock, Ross Buffalo SS -4 Lowery, Brad Buffalo RG -4 Kirk, Donovan Buffalo SLB -4 Blair, Alex Buffalo SILB -3 Delgado, Kennedy Buffalo LG -3 McElroy, Jorge Buffalo QB -2 Wynn, Shannon Buffalo SLB -2 Top Ten Most Likely Breakouts: Name Team Pos Change Spencer, O.J. Buffalo FL 6 Price, Everett Buffalo LT 3 Fredrickson, Peter Buffalo TE 3 Staat, Raymond Buffalo FL 2 Bennett, Ralph Buffalo SE 2 Bernard, Vince Buffalo SE 2 Cobb, Patrick Buffalo QB 2 Ethridge, Leon Buffalo RCB 1 Coffey, Joe Buffalo RB 1 Duran, Tommie Buffalo QB 1
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Buffalo Bills Player Report

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NamePosTeamIMTBUF2014c CurrentIMTBUF2014c FutureIMTBUF2014d CurrentIMTBUF2014d FutureOverall Current ChangeOverall Future Change
Cobb, PatrickQBBuffalo82411 (3)26 (2)32
Davison, CoreyQBBuffalo74512 (5)45 (0)50
Duran, TommieQBBuffalo212824 (3)29 (1)31
Fialho, WesleyQBBuffalo4317 (3)31 (0)30
McElroy, JorgeQBBuffalo5368 (3)34 (-2)3-2
Meier, FreddieQBBuffalo95712 (3)49 (-8)3-8
Stephenson, C.J.QBBuffalo184121 (3)42 (1)31
Wisniewski, TracyQBBuffalo212923 (2)30 (1)21
Coffey, JoeRBBuffalo262627 (1)27 (1)11
Gaylor, HarryRBBuffalo293932 (3)39 (0)30
Jamison, CharlieRBBuffalo315227 (-4)44 (-8)-4-8
Malone, LevonRBBuffalo284030 (2)40 (0)20
Swift, JeremyRBBuffalo343434 (0)34 (0)00
Brigham, LorenzoFBBuffalo373737 (0)37 (0)00
Manning, VernonFBBuffalo111412 (1)14 (0)10
Small, RussellFBBuffalo353535 (0)35 (0)00
Fredrickson, PeterTEBuffalo555558 (3)58 (3)33
Jenkins, WallyTEBuffalo314834 (3)48 (0)30
Rackley, D.J.TEBuffalo363636 (0)36 (0)00
Hamilton, JamieFLBuffalo8199 (1)19 (0)10
McLane, DeonFLBuffalo152417 (2)24 (0)20
Owens, GusFLBuffalo313132 (1)32 (1)11
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Old 05-04-2010, 08:14 PM   #94
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Looks like MP tagged a few guys this round who can develop into pretty useful players. Thanks!
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Old 05-04-2010, 08:16 PM   #95
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Here are some pre-camp markers for our rookie receivers:

Name - GD, BPR

Rund - 16/76, 36
Bernard - 20, 38
Staat - 24/90, 64
Bennett - 16/21, 40
Hamilton - 27/30, 39

And the after-camp:

Rund - 18/68, 36
Bernard - 25, 40
Staat - 29/85, 63
Bennett - 19/27, 41
Hamilton - 30/36, 38
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Old 05-04-2010, 08:58 PM   #96
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With Penxa willing to come back, I see our WR depth chart for this year looking something like:

FL Spencer, Owens
SE Penxa, Staat

We will keep Lee as the inactive affinity gimp, so we probably want to carry one or maybe two more guys on our roster of 53. Neither Bennett nor Bernard looks like much right now, but the +2 camp says keep them... and even Rund gave a +1. 2nd year man Hansen has 34/52 GD and 68 BPR, but I'm considering chucking him for the younger set... by the bars right now, that looks like a crazy move.
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Old 05-04-2010, 08:59 PM   #97
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...and I don't see any way that Jamie Hamilton makes the team, with a zero camp and an 8/18 rating. Two very good combines notwithstanding, the guy doesn't seem to be able to play.

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Old 05-05-2010, 05:41 AM   #98
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Interesting stuff with Hamilton. That's basically going to make me throw my own drafting theories out the window.
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Old 05-05-2010, 08:01 AM   #99
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We gave Hamilton every chance to prove us something with those combines. It's on him.
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Old 05-05-2010, 08:17 AM   #100
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Well... as far as I'm concerned, the goals of this career are split somewhere between winning and learning. If we had no talent at WR, I'd probaly be thinking "let's give this Hamilton kid a chance to play, maybe as the FL2 or something, and we'll see if he posts numbers better than his lousy bars suggest." But given the fact that we now have maybe six legitimate guys easily ahead of him at the position, it would be pretty dumb to do so, I think.
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