Soccer Thread 2012-13 - Page 10

Easy Mac · 10-13-2012, 07:56 AM

jurgen said it was because he had poor national team form.

miami_fan · 10-13-2012, 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Easy Mac

jurgen said it was because he had poor national team form.

So how many new players can we expect based on the last three games or so?

whomario · 10-16-2012, 03:40 PM

Germany just played the perfect game for 60 minutes (with amazing goals and just utter dominance) and then fucking blew a 4-0 lead at home to draw Sweden 4:4

Absolutely bizarre ...

kingfc22 · 10-16-2012, 03:46 PM

Portugal down 0-1 to N. Ireland at the half.

Doubt it will end that way, but still humorous nonetheless.

PadresFan104 · 10-16-2012, 03:59 PM

Guys - Trying to learn more about soccer and have a really novice question. While the World Cup qualifiers are being played, is there a break in the "regular" Leagues like EPL or Serie A? Or do the games continue with the star players taking a leave of absence for the World Cup games?

miami_fan · 10-16-2012, 04:01 PM

Spain 1- France 1

Marc Vaughan · 10-16-2012, 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by PadresFan104

Guys - Trying to learn more about soccer and have a really novice question. While the World Cup qualifiers are being played, is there a break in the "regular" Leagues like EPL or Serie A? Or do the games continue with the star players taking a leave of absence for the World Cup games?

Depends entirely on the leagues and matches involved.

In the lower leagues of most countries normal fixtures will continue, in the upper reaches often they'll stop or have scheduled 'breaks' to avoid qualifiers .... HOWEVER for some international competitions on other continents to the leagues you might not have breaks scheduled and just lose players (Premiership managers sometimes comment about losing African players in this manner).

As with all of soccer - there is rarely a simple answer

Grover · 10-16-2012, 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by PadresFan104

Guys - Trying to learn more about soccer and have a really novice question. While the World Cup qualifiers are being played, is there a break in the "regular" Leagues like EPL or Serie A? Or do the games continue with the star players taking a leave of absence for the World Cup games?

They have international breaks. Where all top European leagues stop play for a week for the two international friendlies/qualifiers, et al.

Like Marc said, English managers whine and moan every two years when they lose their African players for the African Cup of Nations tournament held in January.

PadresFan104 · 10-16-2012, 04:06 PM

Thanks Marc! Thanks Grover! I need to find an "International Soccer for Dummies" website...

MIJB#19 · 10-16-2012, 04:20 PM

C'mon Northern Ireland!

DaddyTorgo · 10-16-2012, 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by PadresFan104

Thanks Marc! Thanks Grover! I need to find an "International Soccer for Dummies" website...

Just buy Football Manager. With the new version coming soon apparently it's easier than ever for noobs to get into it...and we're all a big help.

PadresFan104 · 10-16-2012, 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

Just buy Football Manager. With the new version coming soon apparently it's easier than ever for noobs to get into it...and we're all a big help.

I plan on it. That's why I'm starting to pay attention.

The article on Messi in SI helped re-spark my interest...

MIJB#19 · 10-16-2012, 04:29 PM

D'oh, way to jinx them...

DaddyTorgo · 10-16-2012, 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by PadresFan104

I plan on it. That's why I'm starting to pay attention.

The article on Messi in SI helped re-spark my interest...

We'll be here to help.

PS - if you pre-order on Steam you'll get to play (probably) on this Friday when they early-release on there...instead of on 11/3 when it's slated for release.

Wasn't that a great article?

MIJB#19 · 10-16-2012, 04:35 PM

The world cup chances for Turkey, Serbia and Ukraine do not look good after today's results. At least they're still in better shape than Canada...

DaddyTorgo · 10-16-2012, 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by whomario

Germany just played the perfect game for 60 minutes (with amazing goals and just utter dominance) and then fucking blew a 4-0 lead at home to draw Sweden 4:4

Absolutely bizarre ...

Gah - that's frustrating

RainMaker · 10-16-2012, 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

Just buy Football Manager. With the new version coming soon apparently it's easier than ever for noobs to get into it...and we're all a big help.

Yup, I knew next to nothing about how all this worked (still don't to an extent), but FM helps pick up on things a ton.

I do wish there was a big chart though that shows all the cups/tournaments though.

Ryan S · 10-16-2012, 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by MIJB#19

The world cup chances for Turkey, Serbia and Ukraine do not look good after today's results. At least they're still in better shape than Canada...

I think everyone is in better shape than Scotland.

PadresFan104 · 10-16-2012, 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by RainMaker

Yup, I knew next to nothing about how all this worked (still don't to an extent), but FM helps pick up on things a ton.

I do wish there was a big chart though that shows all the cups/tournaments though.

That would be awesome!

MIJB#19 · 10-16-2012, 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Ryan S

I think everyone is in better shape than Scotland.

I didn't even notice their 2 in 4 games form. Comes to show how little I expected of them in that group. No offense meant...

Big Fo · 10-16-2012, 05:18 PM

lol Canada

They needed a draw in Honduras to make it into the Hex. But they lost 8-1 and finished one point behind Honduras and Panama.

Big Fo · 10-16-2012, 05:25 PM

USA lineup tonight (7:15 ET kickoff on ESPN2): Howard; Cherundolo, Cameron, Bocanegra (capt.), Parkhurst; Zusi, Williams, Bradley, Johnson; Dempsey, Gomez

Guatemala: a bunch of divers and dirty players

USA only needs a draw and can advance with a loss if Jamaica cannot make up three goals on goal differential. But hopefully USA can get the win, actually play well for once in the qualifiers, and knock Guatemala out.

Marc Vaughan · 10-16-2012, 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by RainMaker

Yup, I knew next to nothing about how all this worked (still don't to an extent), but FM helps pick up on things a ton.

I do wish there was a big chart though that shows all the cups/tournaments though.

We did a huge wall chart back in the CM days to show all the competitions, etc. ... but there were only 16 or so nations modelled in the game back in those days, I think it'd be impossible today especially with DVD size cases.

RainMaker · 10-16-2012, 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Marc Vaughan

We did a huge wall chart back in the CM days to show all the competitions, etc. ... but there were only 16 or so nations modelled in the game back in those days, I think it'd be impossible today especially with DVD size cases.

Yeah, Wikipedia has been a huge help. I come across things like the Johnstones Paint Trophy and have no idea what it is until I look it up. I'm blown away by how deep the game is that it covers all that stuff.

RainMaker · 10-16-2012, 06:20 PM

cartman · 10-16-2012, 06:21 PM

How was he not offside?

cartman · 10-16-2012, 06:25 PM

Nice corner to tie!

cartman · 10-16-2012, 06:33 PM

BAM! 2-1 USA! Dempsey with the goal!

cartman · 10-16-2012, 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by cartman

How was he not offside?

Looking at the replay, evidently the defender at the bottom of the screen wasn't aware they were playing the offside trap.

DaddyTorgo · 10-16-2012, 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Marc Vaughan

We did a huge wall chart back in the CM days to show all the competitions, etc. ... but there were only 16 or so nations modelled in the game back in those days, I think it'd be impossible today especially with DVD size cases.

I think I have one of those somewhere still kicking around...

bulletsponge · 10-16-2012, 06:51 PM

Dempsey again.

only bad thing id much rather see Guatemala in the hex than jamaica

cartman · 10-16-2012, 06:52 PM

Dempsey with goal #2! 3-1 USA.

DaddyTorgo · 10-16-2012, 06:53 PM

Missed the opening half hour...silly me.

But ummm...did a Guatemalan fuck Dempsey's GF or something?

SirFozzie · 10-16-2012, 06:53 PM

3-1 USA...

cartman · 10-16-2012, 06:55 PM

That last goal probably should have been Bradley's, but Dempsey made sure it went in.

DaddyTorgo · 10-16-2012, 06:55 PM

Silly me forgot to set my DVR...will have to see halftime highlights for the first (3!) goals.

Big Fo · 10-16-2012, 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by bulletsponge

only bad thing id much rather see Guatemala in the hex than jamaica

It's the exact opposite for me.

kingfc22 · 10-16-2012, 07:28 PM

Why does this team always have to give up the first goal?!?

SirFozzie · 10-16-2012, 07:32 PM

Man, where was this USA attack earlier in the qualifying?

cartman · 10-16-2012, 07:33 PM

So close. Almost the hat trick for Dempsey.

kingfc22 · 10-16-2012, 07:37 PM

Alright Antigua. Knock off Jamaica please.

Big Fo · 10-16-2012, 07:46 PM

Should have been a penalty and a chance for Dempsey to get a hattrick.

DaddyTorgo · 10-16-2012, 07:46 PM

Guess we're not calling PK's tonight hmm?

DaddyTorgo · 10-16-2012, 07:55 PM

Jamaica scores with 13 mins left to put themselves back in 2nd place...whoa

SirFozzie · 10-16-2012, 08:03 PM

wait, a college football game on tuesday? Well, thanks for staying with this to the end, ESPN

SirFozzie · 10-16-2012, 08:04 PM

And Dane Richards has put Jamaica through

sovereignstar v2 · 10-16-2012, 08:08 PM

Dempsey the Diver. Pathetic.

RainMaker · 10-16-2012, 08:12 PM

So if Dempsey gets another yellow in the Hex, he has to miss a game?

rowech · 10-16-2012, 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by RainMaker

So if Dempsey gets another yellow in the Hex, he has to miss a game?

Yes. I can't believe the cards don't reset. That was a really bad choice on his part.

bhlloy · 10-16-2012, 08:47 PM

Just seen some of the footage of the scenes in Serbia after the England U21 game this afternoon, absolutely disgraceful. If UEFA and FIFA is remotely serious about Kick it Out and has any balls, the senior team should be out of the World Cup. If your fans can go another 2 years without a single similar incident at club or international friendly level, we'll let you back in and you can qualify for the Euros.

10-16-2012, 03:40 PM	#453
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10-16-2012, 03:46 PM	#454
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10-16-2012, 03:59 PM	#455
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10-13-2012, 07:56 AM	#451
Easy Mac Registered User Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Here	jurgen said it was because he had poor national team form.

10-16-2012, 04:20 PM	#460
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10-16-2012, 04:29 PM	#463
MIJB#19 Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Maassluis, Zuid-Holland, Netherlands	D'oh, way to jinx them... __________________ * 2005 Golden Scribe winner for best FOF Dynasty about IHOF's Maassluis Merchantmen * Former GM of GEFL's Houston Oilers and WOOF's Curacao Cocktail

10-16-2012, 04:35 PM	#465
MIJB#19 Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Maassluis, Zuid-Holland, Netherlands	The world cup chances for Turkey, Serbia and Ukraine do not look good after today's results. At least they're still in better shape than Canada... __________________ * 2005 Golden Scribe winner for best FOF Dynasty about IHOF's Maassluis Merchantmen * Former GM of GEFL's Houston Oilers and WOOF's Curacao Cocktail

10-16-2012, 05:18 PM	#471
Big Fo Pro Rookie Join Date: Jan 2005	lol Canada They needed a draw in Honduras to make it into the Hex. But they lost 8-1 and finished one point behind Honduras and Panama.

10-16-2012, 05:25 PM	#472
Big Fo Pro Rookie Join Date: Jan 2005	USA lineup tonight (7:15 ET kickoff on ESPN2): Howard; Cherundolo, Cameron, Bocanegra (capt.), Parkhurst; Zusi, Williams, Bradley, Johnson; Dempsey, Gomez Guatemala: a bunch of divers and dirty players USA only needs a draw and can advance with a loss if Jamaica cannot make up three goals on goal differential. But hopefully USA can get the win, actually play well for once in the qualifiers, and knock Guatemala out.

10-16-2012, 06:20 PM	#475
RainMaker General Manager Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Chicago, IL	Wow.

10-16-2012, 06:21 PM	#476
cartman Death Herald Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Le stelle la notte sono grandi e luminose nel cuore profondo del Texas	How was he not offside? __________________ Thinkin' of a master plan 'Cuz ain't nuthin' but sweat inside my hand So I dig into my pocket, all my money is spent So I dig deeper but still comin' up with lint

10-16-2012, 06:25 PM	#477
cartman Death Herald Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Le stelle la notte sono grandi e luminose nel cuore profondo del Texas	Nice corner to tie! __________________ Thinkin' of a master plan 'Cuz ain't nuthin' but sweat inside my hand So I dig into my pocket, all my money is spent So I dig deeper but still comin' up with lint

10-16-2012, 06:33 PM	#478
cartman Death Herald Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Le stelle la notte sono grandi e luminose nel cuore profondo del Texas	BAM! 2-1 USA! Dempsey with the goal! __________________ Thinkin' of a master plan 'Cuz ain't nuthin' but sweat inside my hand So I dig into my pocket, all my money is spent So I dig deeper but still comin' up with lint

10-16-2012, 06:51 PM	#481
bulletsponge Pro Starter Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: TX	Dempsey again. only bad thing id much rather see Guatemala in the hex than jamaica

10-16-2012, 06:52 PM	#482
cartman Death Herald Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Le stelle la notte sono grandi e luminose nel cuore profondo del Texas	Dempsey with goal #2! 3-1 USA. __________________ Thinkin' of a master plan 'Cuz ain't nuthin' but sweat inside my hand So I dig into my pocket, all my money is spent So I dig deeper but still comin' up with lint

10-16-2012, 06:53 PM	#483
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	Missed the opening half hour...silly me. But ummm...did a Guatemalan fuck Dempsey's GF or something?

10-16-2012, 06:53 PM	#484
SirFozzie Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: The State of Insanity	3-1 USA... __________________ Check out Foz's New Video Game Site, An 8-bit Mind in an 8GB world! http://an8bitmind.com

10-16-2012, 06:55 PM	#485
cartman Death Herald Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Le stelle la notte sono grandi e luminose nel cuore profondo del Texas	That last goal probably should have been Bradley's, but Dempsey made sure it went in. __________________ Thinkin' of a master plan 'Cuz ain't nuthin' but sweat inside my hand So I dig into my pocket, all my money is spent So I dig deeper but still comin' up with lint

10-16-2012, 06:55 PM	#486
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	Silly me forgot to set my DVR...will have to see halftime highlights for the first (3!) goals.

10-16-2012, 07:28 PM	#488
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10-16-2012, 07:33 PM	#490
cartman Death Herald Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Le stelle la notte sono grandi e luminose nel cuore profondo del Texas	So close. Almost the hat trick for Dempsey. __________________ Thinkin' of a master plan 'Cuz ain't nuthin' but sweat inside my hand So I dig into my pocket, all my money is spent So I dig deeper but still comin' up with lint

10-16-2012, 07:37 PM	#491
kingfc22 Head Coach Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Morgan Hill, CA	Alright Antigua. Knock off Jamaica please. __________________ Fan of SF Giants, 49ers, Sharks, Arsenal

10-16-2012, 07:46 PM	#492
Big Fo Pro Rookie Join Date: Jan 2005	Should have been a penalty and a chance for Dempsey to get a hattrick.

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10-16-2012, 08:04 PM	#496
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10-16-2012, 08:08 PM	#497
sovereignstar v2 hates iowa Join Date: Oct 2010	Dempsey the Diver. Pathetic.

10-16-2012, 08:12 PM	#498
RainMaker General Manager Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Chicago, IL	So if Dempsey gets another yellow in the Hex, he has to miss a game?

10-16-2012, 08:47 PM	#500
bhlloy Coordinator Join Date: Nov 2003	Just seen some of the footage of the scenes in Serbia after the England U21 game this afternoon, absolutely disgraceful. If UEFA and FIFA is remotely serious about Kick it Out and has any balls, the senior team should be out of the World Cup. If your fans can go another 2 years without a single similar incident at club or international friendly level, we'll let you back in and you can qualify for the Euros.

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