The 2013-2014 NFL Offseason/Coaching/Free Agency (non-draft) Thread

miami_fan · 12-29-2013, 06:34 AM

Houston seems to be looking at Bill O'Brien for their opening. It looks like Rex Ryan might save his job. Maybe there is hope for Schiano and Shanahan as well.

Apathetic Lurker · 12-29-2013, 07:11 AM

Shanahan cant coexist with Danny boy...

QuikSand · 12-29-2013, 07:15 AM

I think Shanahan is a really interesting case. Seems very unlikely that he stays in Washington, given the intense friction, so he's likely gone somehow. But a quick firing doesn't seem that likely either, for both cash and spite reasons.

However... I think Shanahan wants to coach in the NFL, and I think he would actually be an intriguing candidate. Kyle (son who has been OC) is also pretty intriguing, and likely gets work either way... but I'd think that someone might at least kick Shanahan's tires a bit.

BillJasper · 12-29-2013, 01:45 PM

Speculation swirls about Chudzinski in Cleveland | ProFootballTalk

Oh, Cleveland.

BillJasper · 12-29-2013, 02:20 PM

I want the Dolphins to fire Ireland and Philbin and every other coach and scout and secretary the team currently employs.

Dutch · 12-29-2013, 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by QuikSand

I think Shanahan is a really interesting case. Seems very unlikely that he stays in Washington, given the intense friction, so he's likely gone somehow. But a quick firing doesn't seem that likely either, for both cash and spite reasons.

However... I think Shanahan wants to coach in the NFL, and I think he would actually be an intriguing candidate. Kyle (son who has been OC) is also pretty intriguing, and likely gets work either way... but I'd think that someone might at least kick Shanahan's tires a bit.

The Bucs, after a failed college coach attempt with Schiano will probably be on the lookout for a "veteran" NFL coach...fwiw.

And the ownership in Tampa is so much "hands-off" that you think their is a restraining order against them for participating in any league functions whatsoever (outside of cutting checks)...with the talent on the Bucs, it's probably a very close approximation to what would make Shanahan successful again, plus there are great retirement benefits here if he decides he's had enough.

Thomkal · 12-29-2013, 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by BillJasper

Speculation swirls about Chudzinski in Cleveland | ProFootballTalk

Oh, Cleveland.

That would be pretty stupid. So Cleveland likely will do it.

Bobble · 12-29-2013, 03:17 PM

I must have dozed off for a quick second there 'cause I had a nightmare that someone was reporting that the Lions were leaning on KEEPING Schwartz! Ha, isn't that hilarious? Oh, man, for a second there, I was scared crapless but then I realized that it must have been just a nightmare.

Dutch · 12-29-2013, 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Bobble

I must have dozed off for a quick second there 'cause I had a nightmare that someone was reporting that the Lions were leaning on KEEPING Schwartz! Ha, isn't that hilarious? Oh, man, for a second there, I was scared crapless but then I realized that it must have been just a nightmare.

The Tampa Times is reporting that the Bucs are intent on keeping Schiano if he can't find a College Coaching gig (Penn St. please!) because they aren't interested in paying him and a new coach.

Not this crap again...we just went through this crap with Gruden/Raheem...we are a cursed organization, it seems.

BillJasper · 12-29-2013, 05:01 PM

Report: Browns will fire Rob Chudzinski | ProFootballTalk

Wouldn't be surprised to see Chudzinski end up as the offensive coordinator in DC. Plus, if Schiano leaves, I wouldn't be surprised to see Wannstadt elevated to head coach as a cost saving move.

NobodyHere · 12-29-2013, 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Bobble

I must have dozed off for a quick second there 'cause I had a nightmare that someone was reporting that the Lions were leaning on KEEPING Schwartz! Ha, isn't that hilarious? Oh, man, for a second there, I was scared crapless but then I realized that it must have been just a nightmare.

There there now. Pretty soon the Lions will fire Scwhartz and hire someone who sounds like they will be good but will prove to be equally incompetent.

QuikSand · 12-29-2013, 06:13 PM

Wow, I know it sounds tough to say this about a 4-12 team, but I really feel like the Browns would be really wise to stay the course for another year or two with this leadership. No insider knowledge at all, but that looks like a team that has the potential to put a lot of pieces together in a hurry.

OldGiants · 12-29-2013, 06:23 PM

It will be interesting to see which sanctimonious, sententious, washed-up old fool Danny Boy hires in DC. The only coach with a winning record during his ownership is Norv, and Danny Boy inherited him, as he did his money.

BillJasper · 12-29-2013, 06:39 PM

Sounds like the Browns really want to get rid of Chudzinski!

Browns considering a Sunday night meeting with Chudzinski | ProFootballTalk

Desnudo · 12-29-2013, 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by BillJasper

Sounds like the Browns really want to get rid of Chudzinski!

Browns considering a Sunday night meeting with Chudzinski | ProFootballTalk

What exactly were they expecting from him with their current QB situation?

BillJasper · 12-29-2013, 06:46 PM

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What exactly were they expecting from him with their current QB situation?

I'm not sure exactly? But it sounds like it was more they didn't like the way he was running the team than anything to do with wins and losses.

miami_fan · 12-29-2013, 06:54 PM

Maybe they told him to keep starting Weeden. You know to make sure that they ...uh... get enough tape to fairly evaluate him in the offseason.

Draft Dodger · 12-29-2013, 07:21 PM

Weedon is almost old enough to coach - why not just have him be a player coach?

miami_fan · 12-29-2013, 07:23 PM

The Jets owner has confirmed that Rex Ryan will return as head coach. I gotta give the man credit. I did not think he had any shot of staying.

jbergey22 · 12-29-2013, 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by miami_fan

The Jets owner has confirmed that Rex Ryan will return as head coach. I gotta give the man credit. I did not think he had any shot of staying.

LOL! The guy can sell. Apparently, ownership is buying.

BillJasper · 12-29-2013, 08:47 PM

Chudzinski fired.

Solecismic · 12-29-2013, 08:54 PM

According to the research I did on historic head coach firing, Oakland and Minnesota will be making changes as a near certainty. Cleveland was a bit of a surprise, as first-year firings are rare. Washington and Tampa Bay are considered somewhat likely.

Matthean · 12-29-2013, 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by BillJasper

Chudzinski fired.

Good luck to the next guy.

BillJasper · 12-29-2013, 09:06 PM

Praying the Black Monday clouds roll into Miami tomorrow.

Atocep · 12-29-2013, 09:15 PM

I would think Cleveland has someone in mind already if they're letting Chudzinski go after 1 season.

Draft Dodger · 12-29-2013, 09:48 PM

just for the entertainment factor, there is part of me that would like to see Snyder fire Shanahan and then refuse to pay him

mrtourette · 12-30-2013, 02:10 AM

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Originally Posted by BillJasper

I'm not sure exactly? But it sounds like it was more they didn't like the way he was running the team than anything to do with wins and losses.

Yeah looking into it sounds like they were annoyed by that being used as an excuse and Chud's inability to communicate an effective way of dealing with it or planning for the future.

bhlloy · 12-30-2013, 02:17 AM

Is there a more effective way than "we need to get a better quarterback" when you aren't the GM of the team? What's he supposed to do, splice the four shitty QB's he was given together to make a semi-competent one?

miami_fan · 12-30-2013, 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Atocep

I would think Cleveland has someone in mind already if they're letting Chudzinski go after 1 season.

Well, one of the options is...

Cleveland Browns head coach Rob Chudzinski fired, team announces | cleveland.com

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In addition to McDaniels and O'Brien, Jason LaCanfora of CBS Sports reported that Lions coach Jim Schwartz will be a possible candidate if he gets fired. Lombardi was instrumental in bringing Schwartz to Cleveland during the Bill Belichick years, and the two have remained close.

HomerSimpson98 · 12-30-2013, 07:53 AM

Isnt the Cleveland owner Haslam, or something like that, the Flying J gas chain mogul who got clipped with some unethical tidings regarding rebates or something? I figured the dude would want to lay low to let that blow over, but apparently he likes headlines.

Butter · 12-30-2013, 08:13 AM

After the first half of the season, I just don't know how you fire the Browns coaching staff considering they were forced to play with Campbell and Weeden at QB. They are both terrible. The Browns defense was in the top 10 all season, despite being hamstrung by an offense who couldn't move the ball.

Coffee Warlord · 12-30-2013, 08:17 AM

Frazier's gone at Minnesota.

BillJasper · 12-30-2013, 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Coffee Warlord

Frazier's gone at Minnesota.

Doesn't seem fair to fire Frazier and keep Spielman.

Plus, didn't the Vikings say Frazier was safe for 2014 a few weeks ago?

jbergey22 · 12-30-2013, 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by BillJasper

Doesn't seem fair to fire Frazier and keep Spielman.

Plus, didn't the Vikings say Frazier was safe for 2014 a few weeks ago?

Agree. Spielman should be gone as well.

I dont remember them saying that but if they did it was just propaganda as I dont think anyone around here expected him back after the 3rd week of the season. He was in trouble midway through last season.

BillJasper · 12-30-2013, 08:28 AM

Being a Dolphins fan, I'm envious of Vikings and Browns fans this morning.

PurdueBrad · 12-30-2013, 08:46 AM

Shanahan is gone according to ESPN and NFL Network.

PurdueBrad · 12-30-2013, 08:47 AM

Link: Washington Redskins fire Mike Shanahan - NFL.com

BillJasper · 12-30-2013, 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by PurdueBrad

Shanahan is gone according to ESPN and NFL Network.

I think Chudzinski will end up as the QB coach or offensive coordinator there based on his work with Cam Newton. Who ends up as the head coach is anyone's guess?

Warhammer · 12-30-2013, 09:09 AM

My issue with the Browns firing is how do you let a guy go after one season with the roster issues they had?

QuikSand · 12-30-2013, 09:13 AM

It sounds like the issues in CLE were more complicated/personal than just "not a good coach" stuff. Palace intrigue FTL.

BillJasper · 12-30-2013, 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by QuikSand

It sounds like the issues in CLE were more complicated/personal than just "not a good coach" stuff. Palace intrigue FTL.

NFL Network reporting that some Browns players are calling the organization a joke.

JPhillips · 12-30-2013, 09:38 AM

Mike Zimmer is rumored to be on the radar for the Redskins job. I'd hate to lose him as DC, but I'd love to see the fights between he and Snyder.

Butter · 12-30-2013, 09:40 AM

There's no way that would end well.

BillJasper · 12-30-2013, 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by JPhillips

Mike Zimmer is rumored to be on the radar for the Redskins job. I'd hate to lose him as DC, but I'd love to see the fights between he and Snyder.

I think Jay Gruden will be on some teams radar as well.

QuikSand · 12-30-2013, 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by BillJasper

NFL Network reporting that some Browns players are calling the organization a joke.

Only some of them? That might count as progress.

cougarfreak · 12-30-2013, 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by JPhillips

Mike Zimmer is rumored to be on the radar for the Redskins job. I'd hate to lose him as DC, but I'd love to see the fights between he and Snyder.

Zimmer will end up kicking Snyder's ass in the owner's box by the end of the preseason if those two get together.

rowech · 12-30-2013, 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by BillJasper

I think Jay Gruden will be on some teams radar as well.

He won't make a good head coach.

Butter · 12-30-2013, 10:12 AM

I agree on Jay Gruden, rowech. However I think Zimmer would be a good head coach, but would be horrible at dealing with the front office and the media. Which would probably make him not an ideal candidate.

Matthean · 12-30-2013, 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Butter_of_69

I agree on Jay Gruden, rowech. However I think Zimmer would be a good head coach, but would be horrible at dealing with the front office and the media. Which would probably make him not an ideal candidate.

So have him go to a smaller market team where the front office will leave him be more.

rowech · 12-30-2013, 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Butter_of_69

I agree on Jay Gruden, rowech. However I think Zimmer would be a good head coach, but would be horrible at dealing with the front office and the media. Which would probably make him not an ideal candidate.

I agree on Zimmer. Actually, I wish he was the Bengals coach instead of Marvin.

12-29-2013, 01:45 PM	#4
BillJasper Pro Starter Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Northern Kentucky	Speculation swirls about Chudzinski in Cleveland \| ProFootballTalk Oh, Cleveland. __________________ The Confederacy lost, it is time to dismantle it.

12-29-2013, 02:20 PM	#5
BillJasper Pro Starter Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Northern Kentucky	I want the Dolphins to fire Ireland and Philbin and every other coach and scout and secretary the team currently employs. __________________ The Confederacy lost, it is time to dismantle it.

12-29-2013, 05:01 PM	#10
BillJasper Pro Starter Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Northern Kentucky	Report: Browns will fire Rob Chudzinski \| ProFootballTalk Wouldn't be surprised to see Chudzinski end up as the offensive coordinator in DC. Plus, if Schiano leaves, I wouldn't be surprised to see Wannstadt elevated to head coach as a cost saving move. __________________ The Confederacy lost, it is time to dismantle it.

12-29-2013, 06:23 PM	#13
OldGiants College Benchwarmer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Location, Location, Location	It will be interesting to see which sanctimonious, sententious, washed-up old fool Danny Boy hires in DC. The only coach with a winning record during his ownership is Norv, and Danny Boy inherited him, as he did his money. __________________ "The case of Great Britain is the most astonishing in this matter of inequality of rights in world soccer championships. The way they explained it to me as a child, God is one but He's three: Father, Son and Holy Ghost. I could never understand it. And I still don't understand why Great Britain is one but she's four....while [others] continue to be no more than one despite the diverse nationalities that make them up." Eduardo Galeano, SOCCER IN SUN AND SHADOW

12-29-2013, 06:39 PM	#14
BillJasper Pro Starter Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Northern Kentucky	Sounds like the Browns really want to get rid of Chudzinski! Browns considering a Sunday night meeting with Chudzinski \| ProFootballTalk __________________ The Confederacy lost, it is time to dismantle it.

12-29-2013, 07:11 AM	#2
Apathetic Lurker College Prospect Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Buffalo,NY	Shanahan cant coexist with Danny boy...

12-29-2013, 07:15 AM	#3
QuikSand lolzcat Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Annapolis, Md	I think Shanahan is a really interesting case. Seems very unlikely that he stays in Washington, given the intense friction, so he's likely gone somehow. But a quick firing doesn't seem that likely either, for both cash and spite reasons. However... I think Shanahan wants to coach in the NFL, and I think he would actually be an intriguing candidate. Kyle (son who has been OC) is also pretty intriguing, and likely gets work either way... but I'd think that someone might at least kick Shanahan's tires a bit.

12-29-2013, 03:17 PM	#8
Bobble College Prospect Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: High and outside	I must have dozed off for a quick second there 'cause I had a nightmare that someone was reporting that the Lions were leaning on KEEPING Schwartz! Ha, isn't that hilarious? Oh, man, for a second there, I was scared crapless but then I realized that it must have been just a nightmare.

12-29-2013, 06:13 PM	#12
QuikSand lolzcat Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Annapolis, Md	Wow, I know it sounds tough to say this about a 4-12 team, but I really feel like the Browns would be really wise to stay the course for another year or two with this leadership. No insider knowledge at all, but that looks like a team that has the potential to put a lot of pieces together in a hurry.

12-29-2013, 06:54 PM	#17
miami_fan Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Land O Lakes FL	Maybe they told him to keep starting Weeden. You know to make sure that they ...uh... get enough tape to fairly evaluate him in the offseason. __________________ "The blind soldier fought for me in this war. The least I can do now is fight for him. I have eyes. He hasn’t. I have a voice on the radio, he hasn’t. I was born a white man. And until a colored man is a full citizen, like me, I haven’t the leisure to enjoy the freedom that colored man risked his life to maintain for me. I don’t own what I have until he owns an equal share of it. Until somebody beats me and blinds me, I am in his debt."- Orson Welles August 11, 1946

12-29-2013, 07:21 PM	#18
Draft Dodger Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Keene, NH	Weedon is almost old enough to coach - why not just have him be a player coach? __________________ Mile High Hockey

12-29-2013, 07:23 PM	#19
miami_fan Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Land O Lakes FL	The Jets owner has confirmed that Rex Ryan will return as head coach. I gotta give the man credit. I did not think he had any shot of staying. __________________ "The blind soldier fought for me in this war. The least I can do now is fight for him. I have eyes. He hasn’t. I have a voice on the radio, he hasn’t. I was born a white man. And until a colored man is a full citizen, like me, I haven’t the leisure to enjoy the freedom that colored man risked his life to maintain for me. I don’t own what I have until he owns an equal share of it. Until somebody beats me and blinds me, I am in his debt."- Orson Welles August 11, 1946

12-29-2013, 08:47 PM	#21
BillJasper Pro Starter Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Northern Kentucky	Chudzinski fired. __________________ The Confederacy lost, it is time to dismantle it.

12-29-2013, 08:54 PM	#22
Solecismic Solecismic Software Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Canton, OH	According to the research I did on historic head coach firing, Oakland and Minnesota will be making changes as a near certainty. Cleveland was a bit of a surprise, as first-year firings are rare. Washington and Tampa Bay are considered somewhat likely.

12-29-2013, 09:06 PM	#24
BillJasper Pro Starter Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Northern Kentucky	Praying the Black Monday clouds roll into Miami tomorrow. __________________ The Confederacy lost, it is time to dismantle it.

12-29-2013, 09:15 PM	#25
Atocep Coordinator Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Puyallup, WA	I would think Cleveland has someone in mind already if they're letting Chudzinski go after 1 season.

12-29-2013, 09:48 PM	#26
Draft Dodger Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Keene, NH	just for the entertainment factor, there is part of me that would like to see Snyder fire Shanahan and then refuse to pay him __________________ Mile High Hockey

12-30-2013, 02:17 AM	#28
bhlloy Coordinator Join Date: Nov 2003	Is there a more effective way than "we need to get a better quarterback" when you aren't the GM of the team? What's he supposed to do, splice the four shitty QB's he was given together to make a semi-competent one?

12-30-2013, 07:53 AM	#30
HomerSimpson98 High School Varsity Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Cowtown, TX	Isnt the Cleveland owner Haslam, or something like that, the Flying J gas chain mogul who got clipped with some unethical tidings regarding rebates or something? I figured the dude would want to lay low to let that blow over, but apparently he likes headlines.

12-30-2013, 08:13 AM	#31
Butter Coordinator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Dayton, OH	After the first half of the season, I just don't know how you fire the Browns coaching staff considering they were forced to play with Campbell and Weeden at QB. They are both terrible. The Browns defense was in the top 10 all season, despite being hamstrung by an offense who couldn't move the ball. __________________ My listening habits

12-30-2013, 08:17 AM	#32
Coffee Warlord Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Colorado Springs	Frazier's gone at Minnesota.

12-30-2013, 08:28 AM	#35
BillJasper Pro Starter Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Northern Kentucky	Being a Dolphins fan, I'm envious of Vikings and Browns fans this morning. __________________ The Confederacy lost, it is time to dismantle it.

12-30-2013, 09:09 AM	#39
Warhammer Pro Starter Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Dayton, OH	My issue with the Browns firing is how do you let a guy go after one season with the roster issues they had?

12-30-2013, 09:13 AM	#40
QuikSand lolzcat Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Annapolis, Md	It sounds like the issues in CLE were more complicated/personal than just "not a good coach" stuff. Palace intrigue FTL.

12-30-2013, 09:38 AM	#42
JPhillips General Manager Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Newburgh, NY	Mike Zimmer is rumored to be on the radar for the Redskins job. I'd hate to lose him as DC, but I'd love to see the fights between he and Snyder. __________________ To love someone is to strive to accept that person exactly the way he or she is, right here and now.. - Mr. Rogers

12-30-2013, 09:40 AM	#43
Butter Coordinator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Dayton, OH	There's no way that would end well. __________________ My listening habits

12-30-2013, 10:12 AM	#48
Butter Coordinator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Dayton, OH	I agree on Jay Gruden, rowech. However I think Zimmer would be a good head coach, but would be horrible at dealing with the front office and the media. Which would probably make him not an ideal candidate. __________________ My listening habits

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